Hah, I just had a similar comment above. Needless to say, I agree....
physaks
2023-06-28 23:17:35 +0000 UTC
Omar is waging war on Marlo, he's one man vs an entire organisation. I don't believe outing your location by naming a time and place is the smart thing to do. Because what, Marlo would come down there and they'd have a formal pistol duel? Hell no. Omar calling Marlo a bitch because Marlo is in a way out of the streets and behind a wall of muscle. Omar isn't being hypocritical imo. If Marlo actually came down to the corner, and Omar didn't come at him, then he'd be hypocritical. Omar is trying to *draw Marlo out* onto the street and until that happens he's not gonna announce his movements to Marlo's army and just assume Marlo will come down face him honourably 1on1.
Tom
2023-06-28 20:18:36 +0000 UTC
I also forgot to add even if he told them where he was at first he has like 250k on his head some random person would try to kill him or they would have to probably tell Chris to tell Marlo which is not likely to happen because if it gets to Marlo it's a risk he would die and he is the face of the organization remember Omar never went around telling Avon to meet him in the streets because Avon would've heard about it and been outside Chris coddled Marlo because he would likely do something dumb for his ego sake
Kwame James
2023-06-28 05:14:40 +0000 UTC
Tank I agree that he flipped flopped on his code and wasn't as bad as his legend but he wasn't scared of Marlo nobody in the street was scared of Marlo they feared his people and what they would do also he wasn't respected
Kwame James
2023-06-28 03:14:01 +0000 UTC
While I don't hate Omar nearly as much as you do, a lot of people don't seem to realise that he's a VERY hypocritical character. Which is fine, it doesn't make him unique in this show or in real life, but so much of the talk about him is always about how "he has a code", as if that justifies all the dirt he's done.
prolifik5
2023-06-28 00:16:50 +0000 UTC
Omar don't REALLY want NO smoke with Marlo.
If Omar REALLY wanted smoke with Marlo he would've told Fat Face Rick or the Guy that he shot in the leg before he blew up Marlo's money WHERE AT in these Streets should Marlo go to meet up with Omar to settle this beef.
THIS is the problem I have with this mythical "Omar The Terror" character that THE WIRE writers became obsessed with portraying like he's been this wronged party out for revenge of those who wronged him and will stop at no cost until he gets his revenge by Terrorizing his foes.
This punk Omar did the EXACT SAME thing with the
Barksdale and Bell Organization.
Omar claimed that he wanted vengeance for Brandon but when he saw Wee Bey, Stinkum and Savino all up in his house and then burn up his white van, Omar punk arse just watched until he could have the cover of night so that he could hide in the shadows to shoot down Stinkum in the streets and shot Wee Bey in the leg. Then he used the cover of the Police to sit on the witness stand and lie about witnessing Bird kill William Gant.
These days in Season 4 and 5 he is now out for vengeance for being lied on in order to put him in jail then had a bounty put on his head... BUT instead of getting his hands on an assault rifle and putting Marlo in a body bag by shooting Marlo from up in that window at the concrete park, he chose to make a deal with Prop Joe to steal Marlo's entire heroine/coke package.
Now, he's out for vengeance for Butchie and after botching the ambush of Monk IN HIS SLEEP, Omar has decided to go around town telling everyone that Marlo needs to come down to the streets but he conveniently keeps forgetting to tell the messenger where EXACTLY in the streets should he tell Marlo where to meet Omar at?
Will Omar be in the streets on Lafayette, Pimlico, Lexington, Fulton Ave, Fremont, Pennsylvania, MLK Jr or will this punk be in some other SHADOWS hiding on some other street somewhere else in the city of West Baltimore.
He NEVER told Fat Face Rick or the Guy he shot, WHERE to tell Marlo to go. There are MANY streets in West Baltimore and Marlo runs them ALL so how would he know which streets to find him and if he was running that openly wild in these streets, why has Chris been hunting him day and night but can't find him nowhere?
Is Omar hiding from Chris as he searches for people to deliver his message to Marlo this whole time?
I don't know what has irritated me more over the many years, from the rewatches or from the conversations about the narratives of this Omar Little character in THE WIRE.
It's like the people I spoke to over the years NEVER realize that what Omar says RARELY matched up with Omar's actions in regards to the revenge plots yet they love this character above all others (which they have a right to just as I have a right to dislike many of the aspects of the character)...
That's why it will forever be 🖕🏾Omar Little since day 1 when his character was introduced in Episode 3 of Season 1 when he pointed the shotty to the lil hopper's chest and asked him "where it at shorty".
I've been consistent that way when it comes to Hoe-Mar Little.
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Tank Obadiah
2023-06-27 20:33:03 +0000 UTC
Carcetti could've taken the money from the Governor which would've helped the school deficit but because Carcetti is a piece of shite politician that he chose the advancement of his own career over the kids & teachers.
So Bralik in a way was correct in saying that it's Tommy's fault because he entered the series on some holier than Royce type ish when he's really worse than Royce because at least Royce was content on being Mayor of Baltimore whereas Carcetti sees Baltimore & its Mayoral seat as being merely a stepping stone for him to move up to the next level.
Carcetti just likes to hear himself talk.
Tank Obadiah
2023-06-27 20:18:25 +0000 UTC
One scene that stuck out a little more to me on this re-watch from a previous episode is where they had the little meeting about him eventually possibly running for governor. It was referred back to in this episode (do a project, get crime down, boyish good looks, etc).....That meeting happened like the first week he was mayor or maybe even before the inauguration. 100% if that wasn't all on his mind early on, he takes the state money because it'd be good for the city and they avoid a lot of the current problems
Craig Manning
2023-06-27 16:44:50 +0000 UTC
A minor correction about the court document leaks -- I get how it'd be easy to just assume it's Levy, but that can't actually be the case. They are talking about a Court leak, as in someone who actually works for the Court itself. The documents they describe (secret grand jury cases, grand jury subpeonas and testimonies) are part of the pre-charge process where there are no defense lawyers involved yet so Levy wouldn't have direct access to that.
Craig Manning
2023-06-27 16:40:37 +0000 UTC
No one really talks about the parallels between Slim and Daniels. Both are politically neutral, essentially mercenaries for their respective careers. Avon or Stringer hires Slim to lead the Barksdale muscle since Stinkum, Bird and Wee-Bay are all out the picture. Daniels is tasked by the bosses to lead the MCU for the first 3 seasons. After Avon and Royce both go down, they both get promoted to bigger roles and are closer to how things really operate from the top. Slim had no personal loyalty to Avon, it was just business. This is why him working for Joe wasn't seen as a big deal or Slim being disloyal to Avon. Cedric had no personal loyalty to Burrell. He just respects the chain. Slim plays the game the same way Daniels is a police, being the honorable man amongst corruption and dishonesty. You see how Slim gained mutual respect from Avon, Cutty and even Omar to the point of giving up Joe if Joe was the one who gave up Butchie. When offered to take up Hungry's territory, who was likely #2 behind Joe on the East side, he politely declines. He was the first to call out Marlo's scheming ways within the co-op and tried to warn Joe. He's not trying to be Marlo's #2 or #3. When Cheese is chosen instead, you see the disgust on his face.
Blood Raven
2023-06-27 15:08:45 +0000 UTC
Not to mention how close Nick was to the origins of a lot of the city's problems. The irony that he's just a nobody to the politicians and developers is too good.
Blood Raven
2023-06-27 14:39:55 +0000 UTC
🖕🏾Omar Little Punk Arse
Tank Obadiah
2023-06-27 14:08:56 +0000 UTC
David Simon explicitly described many details of his grand design for The Wire as an ultra-modern adaptation of classical Greek tragedy, so we should always look for identification of the series characters with their classical Greek counterparts. Omar has been identified with Achilles, but my theory is that Omar, Brother Mouzone, and Marlo, are the three Furies (Erinyes), each punishing people for a separate type of evil and transgression. (E.g. I think Omar is probably Tisiphone.). This explains many of the supernatural events, and just think of how Mouzone and Omar meet on some random dark street to collude on their punishment of Stringer (very strange meeting place, the whole meeting is just whacked-out hallucination shit, with the firearm weapon nerdiness, etc.). And of course remember how Omar knew all of the Greek gods (like Aries, the Greek god of war, and even his Roman name, Mars) during a couple of conversations in Season 1.
Here's an excerpt from David Simon's interview in the New Yorker from a long time ago:
"[We've] ripped off the Greeks: Sophocles, Aeschylus, Euripides. Not funny boy—not Aristophanes. We've basically taken the idea of Greek tragedy, and applied it to the modern city-state. [. . .] What we were trying to do was take the notion of Greek tragedy, of fated and doomed people, and instead of these Olympian gods, indifferent, venal, selfish, hurling lightning bolts and hitting people in the ass for no good reason—instead of those guys whipping it on Oedipus or Achilles, it's the postmodern institutions . . . those are the indifferent gods"
"During the entire filming of The Wire's first two seasons, and as he wrote the remaining three, Simon read through the entire canon of ancient Greek tragedy, starting with Aeschylus and continuing on through Sophocles and Euripides."
This is just a tiny sampling of the literary depth of this show........
physaks
2023-06-27 07:37:35 +0000 UTC
the prop joe impression was kinda alright, i think u have a talent on ur hands lmaoo.
Kiana B.
2023-06-27 06:15:02 +0000 UTC
Formal setting the bar real low for McNulty. Sure he kidnapped the dude but at least he didn't actually murder him 😂
prolifik5
2023-06-27 04:33:30 +0000 UTC
Carcetti is the one who fucked the city over by not taking the money so he could run for Governor. He didn't create the problems, but he chose not to do what it took to try and fix them.
prolifik5
2023-06-27 04:12:02 +0000 UTC
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Real life police crime labs:
ShaneSpear
2023-06-27 03:04:49 +0000 UTC
marlo doing a double take looking at the apartment had me dying
BL
2023-06-26 23:06:12 +0000 UTC
::we watch Nick Sobotka lose his uncle and cousin who were like a father and brother, his job and any hope for the future::
“Oh, that’s nobody, Mr. Mayor.”
The Wire in a nutshell.
John Collins
2023-06-26 20:48:46 +0000 UTC
"Price of the brick going up" is definitely one of Marlo's greatest quotes of all time. Nothing but ice in that man's veins.