SCORIGAMI, PART 4 OF 4: THE FUTURE.
Added 2025-09-01 16:00:14 +0000 UTC
ADVISORY: This is the episode we'll be showing for Wednesday evening's screening at SVA Theatre in New York City (as of this writing, a few tickets are still available). If you're attending, you may want to hold off on watching this one. Or you could watch it beforehand and smugly sit in the theater with arms folded and mutter things to the effect of "I already knew that" or "I knew that already." People love it when you do that! If you're unable to make it, or if you're one of the dozens of people worldwide who do not live in New York City, think of this as an advance review copy. After the screening, Alex, Seth and I will have a conversation onstage in which we'll field some of y'alls' questions about scorigami and the production process behind it. So if you have a question, leave it in the comments below and we'll try to get to it!
Anyway, hey, it's Jon again. This final episode of Scorigami in particular is one that Alex and I have been planning, in some form or another, for many years. It features some of the wildest stabs at data visualization we've ever attempted, all in pursuit of questions that ultimately do not matter at all. And although we won't spoil it here, we finally identify the one score on the scorigami board that's technically possible to achieve, but that in practice would completely defy human comprehension.
As always, thank you all so much for showing up for our Patreon. We hope we're making it worth your while. If you're interested in showing this to your friends who aren't members, the entire Scorigami series will publish on Secret Base's YouTube channel across the month of September, with this final episode dropping around the end of the month.
(One goof of note: around the 55-minute mark, some of the projected point totals you see are incorrect by somewhat small margins, although the highest figure is correct. Also, please enjoy my misspelling of "success" as "sucess." It's a typo that will haunt me for eternity, although if I had to misspell one word, I'm glad it's that one. Clearly, I was not serious about success.)
I'm a bit late to the party, but I tried to create a understandable example of getting to the model 4 probability. It goes like this:
Going to the casino, You have promised yourself to only 1 bet in each game. To reach the model 4 number, you'll need to:
- Win in Craps (1 in 4.5)
- Get a blackjack in your first hand (1 in 21)
- Go to the roullette table and win while betting on a number (1 in 38)
- Win the highest jackpot on a slot machine on the first try (1 in 8,000)
- Winning in poker with a Royal Flush on your first hand (1 in 649,739)
And just like that, you reached the odds of 1 in 18,6 trillion. Congratulations! You're probably Mr. Rocky Valentine and you are in the other place in that Twilight Zone episode.
Gabriel Valadão
2025-10-04 16:36:28 +0000 UTC
I feel like if we ever see the forbidden score of (spoilers) 10-1 on the scoreboard, the losing team with fight back with 16 points while the winning team defends their lead with 10 points...
smartbagel
2025-09-21 21:49:00 +0000 UTC
Jon, just adopt the Rouge.
Daniel Bouchard
2025-09-19 04:58:33 +0000 UTC
Something I wish was explored was the concept of a competitive max-scoring game. I'm imagining a game where every kickoff is returned for a touchdown and two point conversion. Doing some quick math, and assuming a kickoff return takes about 30 seconds, we could have 30 touchdowns per quarter, 120 per game plus one for each team in overtime, resulting in a score of 488-488.
Jim
2025-09-16 08:29:33 +0000 UTC
My favorite thing about the 100-6 Houston-Tulsa game is that Dr. Phil played on the losing team
Myf
2025-09-15 19:52:21 +0000 UTC
50:50 steelers fans when:
Naomi Ryczek
2025-09-15 00:40:04 +0000 UTC
Might be a good idea to remind the NFL that ties included on that big chart.
jmundt33a
2025-09-14 20:35:02 +0000 UTC
While I 100% agree with the message that sometimes, things just are completely meaningless, Scorigami is one of the few things you can root for no matter what team you support, who your favorite player is, or even if football isn't a sport you particularly care about. It's a great example of something so human, a goal that provides nothing when it is achieved except for the memories of the excitement that led up to its achievement. I love numbers, so of course I'm gonna love scorigami, but all of the numbers-haters in my life love scorigami as soon as I tell them about it. It's the closest thing there is to religion in the world of sports.
Edward Tischler
2025-09-12 05:58:21 +0000 UTC
What a great series. Thanks Jon and Alex and the Secret Base team. Great stuff.
Ben Watson
2025-09-11 20:49:09 +0000 UTC
thinking about how there is a non-zero chance mike mcdaniel gets fired before this drops on youtube
Hafkie
2025-09-11 20:30:43 +0000 UTC
"You have to have water if you want to be the champion." Nice callback to an old video there. Amazing.
Joey and Sarah Dynamite
2025-09-11 15:01:36 +0000 UTC
I imagine there will be an addendum to the YouTube version after Week 1's Scorigami
Mathtron 5000
2025-09-11 04:36:50 +0000 UTC
Ah part 4 probably just a short one, he thought. Oh God. Sweet God.
Ryan Outlaw
2025-09-11 02:06:52 +0000 UTC
I do really appreciate the metaphor about how incomprehensible billionaires' fortunes are.
Boreal Tempest
2025-09-10 16:12:25 +0000 UTC
Oh man, the callback to "Why Do I Do This For A Living." One of my favorites. You gotta have water to be the champion.
Redwraith VEVO
2025-09-10 02:20:22 +0000 UTC
Scorigami is kinda like Balatro. It's an innocent and silly game, and predatory gambling sites want to use it to take your money
Dasamont
2025-09-08 23:48:58 +0000 UTC
The NFL should go metric. Grid looks the same as always, it's just in meters instead of yards. So 1st-and-10 is closer to 1st-and-11 in yards and the field is about five yards wider when expressed in meters.
May Contain Fox-Like Substance
2025-09-08 22:13:46 +0000 UTC
Shout-out to CBS Sports for including the scorigami in the headline and John Breech for mentioning how there were seven scorigamis in 2024 in the article body. It's grown beyond the Jon Bois verse.
May Contain Fox-Like Substance
2025-09-08 22:12:36 +0000 UTC
Absolutely thrilled that we saw a week-one scorigami the season after this documentary came out. Shout out the Bills offense for missing 3 2-point conversions to make it happen, and shout-out Kyle Hamilton for almost making a 1-point safety for the defending team on a 2-point conversion
sammitchgamgee
2025-09-08 15:09:11 +0000 UTC
Hey Jon, I know you love having your info panels onscreen during your videos. Could you consider adding a ‘now playing’ tab for the music in your future videos?
Much appreciated, great video :)
James Valentino
2025-09-08 14:21:30 +0000 UTC
One day, I hope we find out
Jimmy Keffer
2025-09-08 04:20:52 +0000 UTC
**MATT SPAETH MENTIONED** go gophers ski u mah
bryan
2025-09-06 20:28:02 +0000 UTC
Jon, even as a non-American, I know that strength of victory doesn't mean margin of victory but the overall combined record of the opponents a team has beaten so Mike McDaniel running up the score on Denver has zero incidence on that tie breaker
Beuriot Quentin
2025-09-06 09:12:31 +0000 UTC
Not gonna lie, when we were talking about games in the 21st millennium, I could only wonder how Nick and Manny are doing.
Clayton Hurdle
2025-09-06 08:36:24 +0000 UTC
Definitely need to bring back the bigger fields. (Extra 10 in the middle) and deeper end zones (start with 5 yards plans to add 10 total bringing it to 20 yards) suspend the uprights so they can be back on the goal line and not be a concussion magnet. BRING IN THE ROUGE!!!!
Jason Free
2025-09-06 00:41:03 +0000 UTC
Calling back to the forbidden episode at the height of the improbability was more than I could have ever asked from this finale
Jimmy Keffer
2025-09-05 19:26:41 +0000 UTC
love this and i think this is far and away the most likely way for a 1 to happen. still difficult to imagine but not impossible: maybe it's week 18, there are no playoff implications remaining, the two coaches are old friends and coach A does it as sort of a goof / hat tip. -jon
Secret Base
2025-09-05 17:37:38 +0000 UTC
Team B can commit an unsportsmanlike on the 2-point attempt each time to make the kicking distance manageable.
Harrison Hodges
2025-09-04 21:23:34 +0000 UTC
have we considered another avenue for the intentional one-point safety?
for example: tonight, let's say, the eagles are up on the cowboys 34-0 in the fourth. the backups are in and they score a touchdown to make it an even 40. inexplicably, they line up to go for two. mike tirico and cris collinsworth are bewildered. nobody has any idea why they'd do this.
but then, after the snap, sam howell just takes off towards his own end zone. he runs out the back of the end zone for a one-point cowboys safety. announcers, fans, everybody even slightly aware of football, are all losing their minds.
the game ends 40-1. the coaches shake hands, and nick sirianni says to brian schottenheimer "hey, did you know you're now the only coach in nfl history to score exactly one point in a game?" schottenheimer is taken aback by this.
"congratulations," sirianni says. the "go fuck yourself" is left unspoken. the ultimate sign of football disrespect, rivalled only by another eagles-cowboys game in the 1980s that you've already covered.
why on earth would the eagles do this, even to their biggest rival?
i dunno. but it was fun to write.
leaf0001
2025-09-04 14:05:12 +0000 UTC
These cubes putting Dave Stieb’s improbable double blown no hitters in 9 2/3 innings to shame.
Henry Kunkel
2025-09-04 13:58:49 +0000 UTC
There's a beautiful irony in one of the scores in the most unlikely scorigami on the board being the incredibly common 10. Great work, as always.
theMasochistGamer
2025-09-04 11:43:37 +0000 UTC
I still enjoy 8-7 as one of the most interesting unachieved scorigami. It looks so simple and basic but requires you to think about the psychology of the game to realize why, in the few scenarios where each team just had trouble scoring, one would choose not to take the risk of losing by going for 2 and would rather take the chance of going to OT. Of course, there's always the option of 2 FG (or a missed extra point TD) and a safety.
Ometeotl
2025-09-04 07:41:15 +0000 UTC
was at the live screening of this, incredible experience, loved the throwback to breaking madden, kid me could never get his name on one of those jerseys (and not for lack of trying lol)
Trenchgun
2025-09-04 03:10:38 +0000 UTC
rest in peace poker vid.
DiabeticGod
2025-09-04 02:57:11 +0000 UTC
Just getting home from the screening, what a great time, looking forward to whatever is next. Died at the cheeky reference to Andrew Feldman's water breakdown.
Tim Meyn
2025-09-04 02:33:42 +0000 UTC
It's probably more likely for the atoms of the universe to spontaneously form out a 6-1 game than a 6-1 game to actually happen organically. I call this the Boltzmann Scoragami.
Kevin Graham
2025-09-04 02:00:19 +0000 UTC
Jon Bois for NFL commissioner
jamez
2025-09-04 01:09:56 +0000 UTC
Just saw it at the theater. I think this is easily the best work out of SB ever. I can’t imagine how this will be topped, only that I know it will be.
MudkipOfDespair
2025-09-04 00:50:41 +0000 UTC
Getting shiny-hunting flashbacks from watching this video.
LordBloodVein
2025-09-03 19:07:53 +0000 UTC
Loved the ending. About things being allowed to be meaningless. It reminded me of the beautiful and strange essay Meaningless Work by fluxus artist Walter de Maria. You should read it. Has beautiful stuff in it like:
“Meaningless work is potentially the most abstract, concrete, individual, foolish, indeterminate, exactly determined, varied, important art-action-experience one can undertake today. This concept is not a joke. Try some meaningless work in the privacy of your own room. In fact, to be fully understood, meanIngless work should be done alone or else it becomes entertainment for others and the reaction or lack of reaction of the art lover to the meaningless work can not honestly be felt.”
Daniel Brandes
2025-09-03 17:34:19 +0000 UTC
Question for NYC: A lot has been said about written rules that will never apply in practice, but is there anything in the rulebook that says a dog can’t play football?
Alejandro Gonzalez
2025-09-03 16:22:42 +0000 UTC
I imagined Jon having to walk into someone’s office, the guy who manages the production budget and was like ok look, we have the ending for the Scorigami project… but I’m going to need some more infrastructure to make it work.
And then he draws on a whiteboard what it looks like and the guy goes “fuck it I’m in.”
Kalvin Filarski
2025-09-03 14:01:29 +0000 UTC
you'll be shocked to know it's 1 of the 2 flagship teams that still exist, the bears (128 total, 89-37-2 record) -alex
alex
2025-09-03 06:05:11 +0000 UTC
Quesrion:What team has made the most scorigami, ever?
Thomas Beuster
2025-09-03 02:02:30 +0000 UTC
not an important point here but: that's not what strength of victory means. strength of victory is like strength of schedule (which is the tiebreaker right below it) except you ignore losses. there are all sorts of points-based tiebreakers starting at #7, so this will actually improve your argument of just how meaningless three points actually are in terms of end-of-season tiebreaking procedures. as such I will be sending you an invoice of 69 cents as soon as you tell me which zip code dorktown is located in
Justin Bacchi
2025-09-03 01:35:37 +0000 UTC
“You gotta have water if you want to be champion” damn near brought a tear to my eye
Ben Sweetser
2025-09-03 00:54:12 +0000 UTC
52:10 was waiting for this game to come up as soon as this section began haha. I was there with my Bills-loving father and we just sat there in disbelief. 10 points in 0 seconds
Ethan Howard
2025-09-03 00:53:30 +0000 UTC
"You've gotta have water if you want to be champion" holy shit what a deep cut
Dave
2025-09-02 23:52:54 +0000 UTC
The losers of the first 70-11 game were fed to the Emperor of Mankind to sustain him on the Golden Throne.
DressToKILT
2025-09-02 22:58:26 +0000 UTC
The commissioner thing being brought up is especially interesting because (presumably) in the time between this being recorded and today it was actually used to end a game! Lions v Falcons both teams decided to stop playing out of respect for a player that sustained an extreme injury in the final quarter and after a few minutes of both teams standing around the game was ended early.
Chiral
2025-09-02 20:29:57 +0000 UTC
Andrew Feldman mentioned
naka
2025-09-02 19:40:14 +0000 UTC
It's very funny that the "12 man team" is dismissed because that's not especially different from what a coach does now and especially so with the better communication options we have now than the 30's
Chiral
2025-09-02 19:40:01 +0000 UTC
I don’t actually think the one point defensive safety is as unlikely as Jon is making it out to be. It requires the team going for the two point conversion to throw an interception, the guy who catches it to return it to the end zone but since he views it as a formality he really hotdogs it once he gets inside the 5 yard line and one of the offensive players forces a fumble with an easy strip. The ball then either rolls into the end zone where an offensive player falls on it or it rolls through the end zone. I think this guy play just requires a rivalry where there’s bad enough blood for the defensive player to want to rub it in and the offensive players are dedicated enough to really chase him down. Or even more possible, the defender starts celebrating early and drops the ball on the 1 where it rolls into the end zone and is recovered by the other team. Or he gets REAL cocky and, thinking he’s already in the end zone, throws the ball into the stands, resulting in the defensive one point safety and maybe an excessive celebration/unsportsmanlike conduct penalty enforceable on the kick. Honestly for a second I thought this would be even more likely because in a situation where the defensive team is already leading to the extent that the difference between them scoring one or two points is negligible I could see a player doing this to really rub it in, but of course that necessitates them to already be leading so it wouldn’t end up in a 6-1 or any other score to 1
Edit: ah nuts, didn’t realize that would be a touchback but I could still see a scenario where the player fumbles on the one, ball doesn’t roll into the end zone, offensive player picks it up and his momentum takes him into the end zone where he’s tackled.
Miles W
2025-09-02 18:43:09 +0000 UTC
I was hoping someone else would spot this
Dylan Lane
2025-09-02 18:10:19 +0000 UTC
Jon's computer at the end of rendering billions of shapes plus running 25 videos at the same time in 1000x speed must have sounded like a spaceship taking off
Anirudh Ganesh
2025-09-02 16:57:11 +0000 UTC
Yes, the safety play would be faster, but a safety would also require Team B kicking off back to Team A, requiring time to come off the clock before Team A scores again, maybe 10-15 seconds or so for a kick return. Much less efficient than a pick-six that takes 5-7 seconds
Evan Long
2025-09-02 16:51:12 +0000 UTC
The only other factor I can think of for the infinite touchdown strategy is… how long can a kicker’s leg reasonably hold up before the muscle starts to get sore and weaken? The ball has to be kicked into the end zone and must at least make it to the 20 yard line. At what point does fatigue set in enough to make a pro kicker incapable of kicking it that far? Do you sign multiple kickers to your roster before the game? The limits of how many points can be scored in a football game may be based on human anatomy after all…
Evan Long
2025-09-02 16:42:45 +0000 UTC
It’s everything I could’ve wanted and more. God bless you incredible dorks
Weyherman
2025-09-02 16:28:30 +0000 UTC
Future scorigami gets a little fuckey
Johnny
2025-09-02 16:25:56 +0000 UTC
"Like serving fajitas in a phone booth" was uttered with such nonchalance as if it were such a common occurrence
Anirudh Ganesh
2025-09-02 15:24:24 +0000 UTC
I say this with the utmost love and respect: I came in with pretty high expectations for just how far you guys were gonna take the whole "abuse of math to satisfy our curiosity" concept and still my expectations were completely shattered
Jon Martin
2025-09-02 13:40:47 +0000 UTC
When I started this video even with the experience of having watched basically all the bois videos I was still wondering how this video was going to get to an hour and a half. When they added a second level to the monolith I went “oh no”
Adam
2025-09-02 09:58:26 +0000 UTC
let’s go baby. return of the two point, one point safety. i really hope alternatif plays if/when 6-1 comes up again. i’ve terrorized at least half a dozen people in my life with that song
Trey
2025-09-02 09:28:13 +0000 UTC
I absolutely love this so much! I was so waiting for you to point out the LA Tech game from 2017! I was gonna pull my hair out if you failed to mention it hahahah
Tugo Tiger
2025-09-02 07:38:17 +0000 UTC
question(s) for NYC:
hey jon/alex/whoevers reading
17776 and 20020 are some of my favorite works in fiction. 20021 never released, is there a version of it that was planned? was it scrapped due to SDSU and UAB both getting new stadiums? or did you just plain not want to.
Henry Dillon
2025-09-02 05:41:47 +0000 UTC
hey now I finally understand the "NFL's New Overtime Rules" meme!
David
2025-09-02 03:30:38 +0000 UTC
I can’t believe the bit about “one point if you throw the ball through the uprights” from part 1 was foreshadowing for a longer rant
chili sunrise
2025-09-02 03:15:40 +0000 UTC
YOU HAVE TO HAVE WATER IF YOU WANT TO BE THE CHAMPION
minjachi
2025-09-02 01:54:03 +0000 UTC
Regarding 26:01 and Jon's 1-point proposal, even though the CFL has had the rouge forever (making all scores theoretically possible), upon a cursory glance, games ending with the losing team having only 2, 4, or 5 points are still much rarer than 1, 3, or 6, although anything below 7 is still pretty rare. I think the CFL is generally higher-scoring on average than the NFL, which probably accounts for scores <7 being rare, but despite every score being theoretically possible there's still a very uneven distribution between certain numbers. With Jon's proposal or the adoption of the rouge, even though the 1, 2, 4, and 5 point rows become much more statistically likely outcomes, the scoring distribution might still be pretty wacky, especially if field goals and the 7-point touchdown+PAT are still the primary building blocks.
(data taken from https://cflscorigami.ca/, I did not do this research myself)
Ryan Petriello
2025-09-02 01:34:40 +0000 UTC
I wonder what scores have a chance of getting Scorigami in 17776 or 20020...
MGM25
2025-09-02 01:33:54 +0000 UTC
I get so many looks when I need water and say "you have to have water to be the champion" and then I have to explain that it comes from a video that isn't even on youtube anymore. May be time to reupload it here. Another awesome video. My favorite series ever across all mediums, except maybe avatar the last airbender
drossb1
2025-09-02 01:25:38 +0000 UTC
really incredible, jon's magnum opus
Joshua Bohn
2025-09-02 00:57:26 +0000 UTC
My heart rate damn near doubled the moment I heard the start of Ostinato, I knew right away some fuck shit was about to happen and I wasn’t disappointed
Sebastien Rempel
2025-09-02 00:16:31 +0000 UTC
The irony of the Bobcats carrying it across the third line is not lost on me.
Boreal Tempest
2025-09-01 22:48:24 +0000 UTC
thinking about the existence of the year 2443 made me writhe with anxiety, and it just got worse. thanks jon.
Donovan Meade
2025-09-01 22:37:54 +0000 UTC
Every so often I'll think of that titans-jags game from a few years back. the titans are up 7-2 with the ball on their own 1. derrick henry, of course, runs 99 yards for a TD, but i wonder what might have been if he had instead gotten stuffed in his own end zone for another safety.
Harrison Hodges
2025-09-01 22:34:59 +0000 UTC
You know, maybe prop betting on scoragami will lead to the next great explosion of scorigami: A coach or a QB has money wagered through agents on a scoragami happening, and the opportunity for a natural-looking scorigami shows up(or even unnatural, as baseball players seem not to care if it's remotely convincing), and they go the last mile to scoragami. The final score would very likely stand in the record books, even if they made the charge of manipulating the game for gambling purposes stick. They wouldn't have the opportunity to do it all that often, but the long odds might make it profitable to wager on scoragami each game if the opportunity shows up even once a season.
Matthew Thayer
2025-09-01 22:06:23 +0000 UTC
"As true as ever, you need water if you wanna be a champion." What great callback
Howdy
2025-09-01 21:56:49 +0000 UTC
The absurdity is beautiful, as always
Jamin Dabkowski
2025-09-01 21:11:09 +0000 UTC
thanks jon
Assigned Conor At Birth
2025-09-01 20:56:42 +0000 UTC
"And just as a reminder: The whole conversation will be recorded and posted here, so even if you can't make the screening, you could still submit a question and see it asked."
Assigned Conor At Birth
2025-09-01 20:56:03 +0000 UTC
obviously this was going to be perfect and absolutely did not disappoint but credit as well for making Flying Dragon into just a prompt for 'oh shit, here comes something equally stupid and profound to get emotional over' over the years
liam says sorry about the long name
2025-09-01 20:40:41 +0000 UTC
I'll be at the screening, so I'm not watching this yet, but wouldn't the technically achievable but hardest score just he 139-1 or something?
Michael Canter
2025-09-01 20:21:21 +0000 UTC
42:12 lost poker episode mentioned!!
pinecone606
2025-09-01 20:17:16 +0000 UTC
"Clearly, I was not serious about success."
Well done, points awarded. Though I can't blame you for recounting them to be certain it's the right total.
Hammerblight
2025-09-01 20:01:55 +0000 UTC
Was I the only one to let out an audible “yeees” at the return of Pierre Dutour’s Round Up?
Alex Schlesinger
2025-09-01 19:47:22 +0000 UTC
horrifying. thank you!
liz
2025-09-01 19:00:52 +0000 UTC
The only way I could see that one-point safety happening would be someone from the offensive team having a Jim Marshall moment. Something like a sequence of QB throws pick, offensive team player forces fumble on would-be pick-2, then whoever recovers that fumble has the Marshall Moment.
May Contain Fox-Like Substance
2025-09-01 18:57:53 +0000 UTC
The only reasonable way to bet on a Scorigami prop bet is to bet that there will NOT be a scorigami.
Either you get a bit of income, or you've just bought yourself a scorigami! Win-win.
PsyMar
2025-09-01 18:53:25 +0000 UTC
It seems to me the most likely scenario to create 8-7 would be a team that scored a safety to go up 2-0, surrendered a touchdown and PAT to fall behind 7-2, then scored another TD and failed on the two-point conversion and went up 8-7 when they were trying to go up 10-7.
It doesn't seem to make sense where both teams score a touchdown and yet one kicks a PAT and the other goes for two and makes it. In neither case (team down 8-0 scores or team down 7-0 scores) to accept the potential of 8-7 or 7-6 and needing a safety to go up 8-7.
May Contain Fox-Like Substance
2025-09-01 18:50:21 +0000 UTC
"Outside the accepted tactics" and a "patently unfair act" will ensure that we will never get two teams with no playoff worries, their seeds locked in for a Week 17 clash, to collude on a score of 4-4, or one team leading in a shutout scoring one final touchdown and deciding to run the ball all the way back to its own end zone on the PAT for a one-point safety. Could be 6-1, could be 34-1, could be 575,999 to 1, would the commish allow it?
It would fundamentally be the Germany-Austria gentlemen's-agreement match from the 1982 FIFA World Cup applied to the NFL.
May Contain Fox-Like Substance
2025-09-01 18:47:36 +0000 UTC
dare I say...Pretty Good?
Ryan Petriello
2025-09-01 18:47:34 +0000 UTC
I think "We've entered another realm here, one that's far larger, and doesn't operate on the dead currency of winning and losing. Unless you let those limits go, you're an astronaut who brought your wallet." might still be my favorite Bois-ism, but that line at 32:41 is certainly colorful
Ryan Petriello
2025-09-01 18:47:11 +0000 UTC
1:09:14 - [Rosencrantz and Guildenstern have entered the chat]
Prestidigititis
2025-09-01 18:47:04 +0000 UTC
When I opened this and saw an hour and a half run time, the joy that flooded my veins was unmatched. And it did not disappoint! Bless you Jon and Alex!
Daniel Barrera
2025-09-01 18:45:50 +0000 UTC
Question for the NYC conversation: I assume at, this point, y'all heard about Blaseball which, when it exists, had "Jonbois" in it's name pool. But were you aware that because of all the weird shit that happened in those games (fractional runs, negative runs, a weird tie once because of computers) ... we had our own "Sclorigami" (Blaseball fandom stuck the extra L into most words) ?
sclorigami.sibr.dev
I will be attending the NYC SVA show and hope to have a copy of the 3D image with me as a visual aid!
Mitch Okun
2025-09-01 18:43:05 +0000 UTC
I think we can all agree that, astronomical as the odds of a 10-1 game are, if it ever does happen it will be in the Big Ten and probably involve Iowa. who were in fact involved in 6-4 game in recent memory
PsyMar
2025-09-01 18:41:30 +0000 UTC
I think the most likely cause of a Defensive One-Point Safety is if a would-be Pick-2 gets dropped at the one-yard line in celebration but bounces into the endzone, a player on the original offense, maybe the kicker, doesn't know the rule and picks it up in the endzone to bring it out and "avoid a safety", then gets tackled back in.
PsyMar
2025-09-01 18:25:30 +0000 UTC
Would be cool if you recorded the post-screening chat and released it on the p'dcast! But also, I get you have lots on your plate already.
Ricardo
2025-09-01 18:24:55 +0000 UTC
tears at the end of another Jon Bois about a meaningless thing yeah he’s my goat
Jake Baffa
2025-09-01 18:22:29 +0000 UTC
54:35 Surely the faster method of getting to the next kickoff from an offensive play would be to yeet the ball backwards for a safety?
PsyMar
2025-09-01 18:17:23 +0000 UTC
This is the most terrifying video you've ever made
Thomas Beuster
2025-09-01 18:16:14 +0000 UTC
Beautiful and horrifying. Like a butterfly with a billion legs.
Marco Di Pietro
2025-09-01 18:08:19 +0000 UTC
I adore Jon for his turn of phrase. “Trying to hang your coat on a waterfall” has just been surpassed. Congrats, Jon you diabolical wordsmith.
32:41. No other spoilers.
Adam Doud
2025-09-01 17:58:41 +0000 UTC
I’m so happy I got the Patreon to secret base haven’t regret, and will not. Wonderful series
Michelle Mottey
2025-09-01 17:41:06 +0000 UTC
Hello, welcome to Cooking with the Bois. Today we’ll be making fajitas in a phone booth.
Tyler Read
2025-09-01 17:34:13 +0000 UTC
Also, I'm pretty sure that's just a stack of mattresses, not pixels across all video collaboration between Jon and Alex. And no, I don't wanna buy a mattress, I've already got an apartment full.
Nicholas Poer
2025-09-01 17:32:50 +0000 UTC
You have to have water if you want to be the champion!!
Nathaniel Budijono
2025-09-01 17:15:14 +0000 UTC
Wait wait wait wait
hold on
8-7 has never happened?
Lewis Miller
2025-09-01 17:10:21 +0000 UTC
7:30 I don't think 73 will be the limit forever. Sooner or later there will be another game like that, except between two teams out of playoff contention that well and truly hate each other. Bears-packers, Patriots-jets, one of those. And that day, the record will fall.
PsyMar
2025-09-01 17:06:25 +0000 UTC
Here's my take on the kneeldown at the end of that Dolphins game: It was disrespectful. "You're no good so we're not going to play anymore."
You want to show respect for the opponent? Run one more play. Give the opponent a chance -- however easy -- to stop you on fourth down, or at least save the touchdown. If you get the first down THEN you can kneel, that's standard practice to run out a victory, but don't fucking kneel on fourth down and give the ball back, THAT is disrespectful.
And if your fourth down run play scores a touchdown? You go to the media and say you weren't trying to run up the score, that you were trying to give your opponents an opportunity to prevent the record (moreso than having to block a field goal), and that your own players exceeded your wildest expectations.
PsyMar
2025-09-01 17:04:11 +0000 UTC
at 5:30, The strength of victory tiebreaker has nothing to do with scoring margin. Rhat isn't until the 9th tiebreaker, best net points. Strength of Victory is just the combined winning percentage of the opponents you beat, so like stength of schedule but ignoring the games you lost
PsyMar
2025-09-01 16:58:01 +0000 UTC
I was not expecting a creepypasta half way through the video but there it is, just lying motionless on the 50 yard line, undoubtedly wishing for an end to its miserable existence, if it were capable of such contemplation and self-awareness..
Nicholas Poer
2025-09-01 16:57:29 +0000 UTC
Personally, instead of a throw through the uprights to get a single point rule I think it would be very interesting to see an NFL adopt a CFL 1-point rouge system. I think teams could get very creative with it, and maybe even make kicking something interesting that we actually want to watch. A punt actually becomes meaningful if there's the potential to score points because of it.
Roger Ward
2025-09-01 16:52:39 +0000 UTC
the poker Pretty Good callback is immaculate
lesbian kickflips
2025-09-01 16:47:03 +0000 UTC
In a world increasingly divided across all kinds of arbitrary lines, we come together as one and unite under the healing and inclusive banner of SCORIGAMI
Ben, A Human Hair
2025-09-01 16:18:11 +0000 UTC
1.5 hours of Scorigami content? Excellent
Ben
2025-09-01 16:12:39 +0000 UTC
I'm scared to watch this one, I just know it's gonna give me existential anxiety 🫣 But I'm going to guess in advance that the hardest Scorigami would be 10-1, since it requires the 1-point safety that's already basically impossible to do without collusion, plus two safeties, and that's it
Cody Baird
2025-09-01 16:08:29 +0000 UTC
No question, but I just wanted to say from the bottom of my heart that I appreciate all of the work y'all do. You shape my view on how there's a story worth telling no matter where you look.
Owen Stegall
2025-09-01 16:04:14 +0000 UTC
First!
Mark Ervin
2025-09-01 16:03:25 +0000 UTC