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Projective Identification and Corrective Experiences

Dr Kirk answers patron emails.

00:00 Projective identification

10:04 How do we know if we're distorting or not? 

23:37 OPP 2022

25:02 Is projection a bad thing?

34:57 OPP 2022

37:50 Raising awareness of OCD

1:01:02 How did Dr. Kirk know a therapist wasn't a good fit? 

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November 15, 2024

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Projective Identification and Corrective Experiences

Comments

I love the swearing apology! 🤣 As a fellow swearer, that made me giggle. Btw, that analogy of the cave is Plato's concept of the difference between our imperfect idea of reality vs. the world of perfect ideas (a heavenesque place I think)

Anna Miles

If you think of time as just another dimension in space and believe that the past present and future all exist simultaneously, then when we die well “exist” as much as we do right now. This thought helped me grieve my cat cuz then I could imagine that maybe all our good moments together still exist, i just cant perceive them. Hope this helps lol

Nadine🐉

Thank you so much Dr Honda. Hearing you explain the complexity of protective identification makes me realize the complexity of your work. I can actually link it to some of my behavior, when I kind of test or provoke subcounsciously which ends up in the patterns being repeated. It's fascinating to hear someone put words on it. You should write a book. Nowadays, therapists can't do analysis or psychodynamic anymore, only CBT. It makes it so hard for us patients to get help. Bless you <3

Kadita

I totally get the death anxiety thing. My favourite poem by Philip Larkin, "Aubade", illustrates the nature of this fear precisely, here's a sample: ... And so it stays just on the edge of vision, A small unfocused blur, a standing chill That slows each impulse down to indecision. Most things may never happen: this one will ... https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48422/aubade-56d229a6e2f07

Jarkko Nääs

Hi Dr. Honda, Thank you for modeling healthy anger. My childhood was dominated by my mom's cycling of rage followed by days of being ignored and ending with her leaving a note and sometimes a gift. No one else was allowed to have anger. As a parent now, and a human adult trying to operate in the world, I have worked with my therapist for years on feeling, recognizing, accepting, and expressing my anger so my daughter can have a healthy model. Of course it's so hard, and I don't always do what I wish I would have. Your anger at first triggered me and I almost skipped past the episode. I'm very attuned to even subtle signals of anger. I recognized my instinct to dissociate and stayed with my discomfort. I'm so glad I did! The last few moments of the episode you described the world around you. It's so challenging to tolerate the urge to react out of anger, but you demonstrated that one can have anger, while not letting it take control. It was really a lovely moment. Thank you. And lastly, I hope to send an email related to a recent experience I had, involving my issues with anger, unresolved childhood trauma, and how it showed up in my relationship with my daughter as she's entered the age (15) that was so disruptive for me. I believe the concept of projective identification is the best possible way to explain it. It may be an interesting case study for you to discuss, or not! It's ok either way, writing about it will help me continue to process it. I really have learned a lot from your discussions on this topic (and others!). Thank you again, and I hope you are feeling a little better today. 😊

maghen farris

John Green's book Turtles All The Way Down is actually a depiction of the inner experience of someone with OCD and I've heard from several people who are diagnosed with it, that it's a pretty acurate. As someone who does not have OCD, it was an incredibly eye-opening read. I though I understood OCD before, but I absolutely did not. What this book depicts is so much worse and I have so much more empathy now for everyone struggling with this disorder.

Sarah

Interestingly enough, if I recall correctly, the cave thing is originally meant to mean we all are the people chained to the cave wall. It's connected to Platos theory that we physically live basically as the shadows, incomplete, imperfect versions of our perfect eternal souls who live in the idea world (learned this in german, not sure if this word translates like that xD). It's quite an interesting and complex theory actually.

Sarah

Ha! Can you tell I've been a little stressed out lately?

Psychology In Seattle

Can we get "It's my podcast, f*** you" on a t-shirt? 👕

Esmond Kim


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