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The Psychology of Josh Powell (Chapter 10 - Diagnosis) - full video

Dr Kirk Honda and Humberto provide a deep dive on the tragic disappearance of Susan Powell, along with Josh’s suicide, the children’s murder, and Josh’s father’s depravity.

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June 10, 2024

The Psychology In Seattle Podcast ®

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The Psychology of Josh Powell (Chapter 10 - Diagnosis) - full video

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Good point. I was also thinking that, growing up with Stephen as her father, particularly with his history of attraction to her older sister Jennifer, that Elena was probably conditioned to see physical attraction as the way women in the family could get attention and affection from him. I could easily see her being jealous of Susan “taking all of her dad’s attention”

Tyler Knight

I can't help but wonder what would have happened if the police where able to keep Josh detained after Susan's disappearance. Would they have found the body? Would he have gone to jail? If that would have happened there wouldn't even have been all this stuff with visitation and custody. I feel like the police dropped such an obvious ball there. All in all it's just so tragic. Josh feels like a ticking time bomb that went off, and then went off again, and now 3 people are dead.

Softnoodles

I am surprised there was no speculation about the possibility that Susan was kidnapped alive and perhaps transported to Steven for further abuse...

Inga

I lived with my highschool bf and his dad when I was 15-18 and his dad was exactly like Steven and I can say I did “flirt back” because the dynamic between me and his son and his son and him and me and him was such a way that I would be scolded by not only the dad but also my bf as being up tight or I needed to chill out cause “obviously it’s just being funny” so I found myself not rejecting the dads advances and “playful flirting” even right in front of my bf and my bf grew up in such a way that wasn’t even a problem to him. He thought it was a problem if I more sternly rejected his dad and always made excuses for him.

Emilie Hutchinson

I think podcasts with the schema therapy were great. I wish you did more of them Dr. Honda. I have the schema of the outsider too, but I think it's because I'm so sad deep inside, so it feels like I'm performing all the time. I think that makes me feel lonely too. Plus, someone who gets close to me eventually has to see my sadness, and I think I've hidden that part of me even from myself until recently. So I've been trying to remain connected to my sad side. I have "sad songs" playlist for that. I think this podcast has helped a lot too, in the episode you sat with Bob's feelings, it really felt that part of me found company. Those episodes were so healing.

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Katherine Tyson

Hi Dr. Honda! I have been watching all your videos lately because I am trying to work on art projects in my spare time and just need something interesting in the background (now that this series is over, I can continue rewatching the Amber Heard playlist lol). I have become a total armchair psychologist about true crime thanks to this channel and podcast! You and Humberto do such a good job of approaching this serious and tragic material with empathy. Thank you to Humberto especially for the jokes he makes to relieve tension. He catches me so off-guard too that one time I even did a spit take! I am biased (having learned all I know about psychology from your videos) but your final analysis about Josh Powell made a lot of things in this case make sense to me. It’s so unimaginable without the context of this series. Thanks for all the hard work and research!

Jennifer

Thank you for saying how flat affect, eye contact, social awkwardness and alexithymia can also present in avoidant personality and psychopathy. As an AuDHDer myself, the way people constantly want to label others as autistic based on cherry-picked data is beyond frustrating, and that it’s often psychopaths being labeled autistic just maintains so many stereotypes and misconceptions about the lived experience of autistic folks. I don’t know when people are gonna get it through their head that autism is dynamic and so sooo much more than monotone voice and lack of expression. Misconceptions like that are why autistic women in particular are misdiagnosed or missed all together.

Layhoo

Wow! What an amazing work you've done 😮. Thank you very much! It has been so compelling to listen to this. Take a breather (if you want to 😄), but when you're contemplating on a new subject (I know you have plenty lined up), l would ask you to consider the case of Mr. Miu and The Apple river stabbing. That case left me unease still even though it's been a while. But back to this, truly, you and Humberto, well done 👏👏👏!

Helen

No one besides the person doing the flirting can confirm whether or not they were flirting. There have been hundreds of times I was accused of flirting and in reality I was often terrified and not even slightly interested in the other person. I can think of several reasons why Alena would be motivated to perceive Susan’s behavior as “flirty movements and flirty expressions” that have nothing to do with Susan. Women who grow up in the LDS church are taught to be people pleasers (fawning), view other women harshly, socially compare themselves to others (to maintain feelings of superiority or shame), are often excessively smiley and giggly, and learn that the way to gain social capital is by their proximity to men and so victim blaming, to avoid holding perpetrators who are men accountable, allows them to retain their proximity to power.

Layhoo

I’ve been thinking about the logistics of murder and hiding a body with your 2 young children in tow…. I think he must have sedated them for some of the time and may have been unsure of what they were aware of. Aside from the horror of it, it sort of pisses me off from a weaponized helplessness point of view. Josh is too lazy/entitled to ever make a meal (except when I need you to be drugged). His story was whack-a-doodle, but he managed to hide a body pretty effectively. If only he could have put that focus and competency into keeping a regular job. I pity anyone who had to be around Steven, but still. I agree with your reasoning around his tricky psychopathy. Thanks for taking care of us through all of that.

Eliza Rowley


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