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The Psychology of Josh Powell (Chapter 6 - Turning Point)

Dr Kirk Honda and Humberto provide a deep dive on the tragic disappearance of Susan Powell, along with Josh’s suicide, the children’s murder, and Josh’s father’s depravity.

00:00 Facing failure

05:26 Disconnected & distant

09:12 Life insurance

16:49 Real estate & financial crisis

28:48 Collective crisis & doomsday paranoia 

37:13 Susan's video will

46:15 The day Susan was last seen

55:01 Susan's disappearance

1:18:05 Palette cleanser

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May 31, 2024

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The Psychology of Josh Powell (Chapter 6 - Turning Point)

Comments

Thanks Dr Kirk and Berto!

Sarah

I was in an abusive relationship, but never once did I think there was a danger that he would kill me. To hear Susan’s will makes my heart ache. I know it was bad in that house, and I don’t know how she managed, but it really makes you wonder, “What the hell was going on in that home?” For her to make plans and tell people that if she ever died, it was by Josh.

Victoria brewster

Susan's will 😢 It's so heartbreaking.

Tracy & her cats

About the narcissistic aspirations to be rich/famous, I think it can be related to unrealistic standards some abusive/neglectful families set for their kids too. Plus, cult-like or high-control groups nurture magical thinking around attaining success. So, you would be pushed to be successful, without knowing what that means or how to get there. I think there is a lot of conmanship/fraud in those environments that make it seem like succes is easy.

GO!《cɛn

Josh had a history of purposefully causing minor car accidents in order to grift insurance companies. One of these occurred just three months before Susan disappeared. I wonder if Susan knew about this and that's why she specifically said in her will that he might make it "look like an accident".

Katy Ong

Ha!

Psychology In Seattle

Interesting. Yes, that would explain things.

Psychology In Seattle

Yes, well said.

Psychology In Seattle

Interesting! (and love the profile pic)

Psychology In Seattle

That was a very murdery pallette cleanser!

Emma Regan

The reason why they immediately thought carbon monoxide poisoning was because Susan mentioned earlier in the week (I think) that they were having some kind of furnace issues. Also, the childcare worker was not just that, but good friends with Susan and knew about some of the relationship issues and that Josh often made her bicycle to work. Just wanted to give you more insight on things. I just know this from being fascinated with this case.

Ashley Lemak Melfi

I think whatever his plan was didn’t factor in human empathy and common human behavior because he had poor mentalization, poor empathy, and was living in a fantasy world the vast majority of his life. And wild cards kept happening that were probably fairly easy to predict.

Lauren King

Now that I’ve listened to so many hours of Cold. The daycare worker was close with Susan and she was frequently taking the boys to pick Susan up from work and driving the three of them home because Josh wasn’t picking them up in the only car they had. The daycare worker said that it was because it was faster to just take them all home because she wanted her day to end. But I can imagine a lot of closeness happened in those car rides. And then she’s not there that morning so she thinks Josh is doing something with the car, I’ll go pick them up.

Lauren King

Small town Midwesterner here and lots of us have carbon monoxide detectors because snow can drift and block furnace exhaust or power goes out at people will use gas heaters. And we definitely worry about our neighbors and would react like the daycare provider.

Jennifer Boyle


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