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The Psychology of Josh Powell (Chapter 5 - Crisis)

Dr Kirk Honda and Humberto provide a deep dive on the tragic disappearance of Susan Powell, along with Josh’s suicide, the children’s murder, and Josh’s father’s depravity.

00:00 Recap

12:17 Steven's confrontation & massages

25:13 What was Susan's most likely state of mind?

39:24 The Powell's time in Utah

44:18 Fighting & control

48:55 Parenting & authority

1:00:58 Bankruptcy & Josh's spending problem

1:14:58 Sex & wanting another child

1:18:19 Tough or bluff

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May 29, 2024

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The Psychology of Josh Powell (Chapter 5 - Crisis)

Comments

Steven would have been a woman, I would have thought about erotomania. How is it for men ?

Aure lie

I’m loving the intelligence and insight in all these comments—thanks, everyone. My own question is about Josh’s compulsive purchasing of tools. Might the association between tools and traditional (for want of a better term) expressions of masculinity have been a factor?

tessa joseph-nicholas

Ah, that explains a few things.

Psychology In Seattle

Lol I think massages are a thing for Asians. I'm Chinese Indonesian and when I was a child my mother would request I walked on her back while she was lying down to massage her. I was very small like around 5 years old. Most of my Asian friends have the same experience too, such as their grandmothers bribing them with candies to give her massages. lol. None of my male relatives ever request it though. But, I never connect massages as something sensual. I get massages from male masseuse all the time (fully clothed obviously) and it's never considered sexual ever in my country, at least from my side of ethnic group.

Beatrice

I think you're right and it varies a lot by culture. And even if someone has been sexually harassed multiple times they don't necessarily acclimatise to it or become experts at dealing with it. We wouldn't say that for any other trauma. It still fucking sucks every time.

Emma Regan

What Stephen did to Susan is next level sexual harassment. It makes me equally uncomfortable and enraged.

Emma Regan

Maybe Steven keeps going back and forth between “she wants me” “she doesn’t actually want me” as an expression of his need to be unwanted in order to feel the need to pursue.

CJ

I have to chime in and say that no, not all women receive unwanted attention from men on frequent basis. I get annoyed by this narrative from men being put out there. We don't. When I was in my 20s and confronted with someone aggressive I had no idea what to do really. People assumed I automatically knew how to respond. I had never been around men who were overtly trying to push up on me. I know other women where we aren't confronted or accosted by men. Depending on where you live too is a factor.

Nomadickitty

I think Susan’s naïveté about having more children be the solution was a coping mechanism - it stands to reason that while she was still trapped in an abusive relationship that she did not think that she could leave, that kind of rationalization serves as the escape that she cannot realize.

Janice Liu

My MIL is from Taiwan and I remember being shocked when she offered to massage me when I wasn’t feeling well. I came from a stoic midwestern family where touch was only for babies and couple in private. I thought they were weirdly enmeshed.

Jennifer Boyle


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