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Bad Therapists & Rational Suicide

Bob and Dr Kirk answer patrons emails.

00:00 Why do I feel dread when the phone rings?

03:35 A dream about Dr. Kirk & Bob

08:12 OPP

09:43 How can I tell my therapist about therapeutic trauma? 

22:08 OPP2

23:19 How can I move forward in a relationship with my parents?

32:13 Should the therapist dictate the length of treatment? 

43:36 OPP3

44:31 What should I do when my therapist retires?

59:00 Rational suicide 

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May 13, 2024

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Bad Therapists & Rational Suicide

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An interview with Yalom!? I recently completed “Staring at the Sun” and “Existential Psychotherapy,” and I would absolutely love to see what the two of you discussed! I can’t wait to check it out. Very fitting for a conversation about death anxiety, so many existential themes this episode! In terms of suicide, I recently read “The Myth of Sisyphus” by Camus, and I found it immensely helpful and inspiring, I’d certainly recommend it

Kevin Egler

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Bob Goettle

Two turkeys in the same turkey soup!? You’re the best Bob.

Krystal Messenger

This is very random, but when you asked if the person with two first names was a good person or a bad person is it because you have heard before that people with two first names cannot be trusted? I ask because I have heard this before and I always thought it was silly, but possibly relevant and have secretly been collecting data throughout my life lol

Joanna Buffalini

Would love an episode on Shōgun! Series is excellent :)

Celista

re: Rational Suicide In political theory, among 'liberals* there is an argument about personal liberty and what's referred to as 'second guessing,' which refers to the government (or just the political theorist in question) questioning or even limiting the choice of an individual because of an argument that the individual's not freely making the choice. Suicide is one example of second guessing. It is, as people put it often a 'permanent problem to a temporary solution.' For centuries liberal thinkers argued that a person cannot be allowed to sell themselves into slavery. They cannot give up their rights and ability to act as a moral agent, esp if you consider their future self as a different person when under different circumstances. Similarly, a person suffering from addiction can be forced into treatment, with the argument that their choice to continue getting high or not get treatment is not a 'free' choice, but a choice forced by their addiction. They may be doing something they, if not addicted, would not choose to do, such as ruin their relationships, lose their job and house, etc. that they would never choose for themselves if they were 'free' from their addiction. This is a very intellectual way of thinking about it, and I hope I'm not downplaying how emotional and difficult it is. But their are arguments against suicide (particularly for someone not terminally ill, or in incurable pain) beyond just 'religion.' *liberals meaning a broader category than in the US which includes most US Liberals and conservatives and broadly means belief in individual rights, rule of law, equality under the law, personal freedom, and some limit to government against arbitrary power)

Teo

Re: therapist seeing patient less frequently There's so many examples in the 'real world' of relationships moving to having less time or less frequency, like one person moving, getting a new busier job, etc. Some people, the emailer I assume, might panic and feel the friendship is ending, or a betrayal or abandonment. So the therapist really had (has?) an opportunity to model how these relationships can still be strong and continue with less frequency

Teo

Kirk’s touching apology to Mary from Arizona brought me to a standstill. I can’t relate to your situation, Mary, but I empathize with you. ♥️

Jocelyn G


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