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Borderline Abuse (Chapters 1-6)

Dr Kirk Honda discusses borderline personality and partner abuse while reacting to the reality TV show, Love Is Blind.

00:00 Introducing Love is Blind work

16:35 Chapter 1 - Patterns of escalation

54:12 Chapter 2 - Exerting control

1:32:11 Chapter 3 - Abusive cycle

2:17:27 Chapter 4 - Absolute thinking & respect

2:34:47 Chapter 5 - Abandonment & betrayal

3:09:00 Chapter 6 - Rejection & countertransference 

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April 22, 2024

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Borderline Abuse (Chapters 1-6)

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I loved this series Kirk! You made me feel understood as someone suffering from BPD.

Lara 🦜🦜

I love this series and I watched the whole thing on YouTube and I watched some of it twice. Listening this way is bringing up different things for me still about my relational history. Thinking about situations that went so sideways and understanding them now as attachment ruptures. Re: Jimmy being accurate, he definitely seems more reliable than her, but I’m not sure that qualifies. I’m not sure if it is bias, or just more of a lack of information. In contrast to her, he appears so reasonable. In later episodes you speculate about his issues with guilt, I think that does make him an unreliable narrator because he wants to deny and spin things slightly, not horribly. In my opinion, I see a tendency to jump to “I didn’t say that.” When he did say something similar and what would be a more accurate response is, “oh, sorry. I didn’t mean that. I hear how you can interpret what I said that way. ….” I can really see how that might cause someone with distortions to double down on their side. Then he feels the need to assert himself more as he may feel more threatened with guilt. I think the “I didn’t say that” is more dysregulated than it appears.

Lauren King

Yeah, it's hard to determine with couple clients. I try my best by asking a lot of questions, checking my bias, throwing out possibilities, and taking my time. How do we handle it? It depends on: how entrenched they are, the security of the therapeutic relationship, what the current goal is, etc.

Psychology In Seattle

I'm so glad that you can see that. Very commendable. You deserve to heal.

Psychology In Seattle

That's an interesting question worth studying. I don't know if they attract particular personalities. I've seen a wide variety of personalities on the shows I've seen.

Psychology In Seattle

What’s the best way to handle talking with someone who might be experiencing these distortions? Particularly as a couples counselor, how do you know if one partner is distorted? It’s easy to analyze when we see Chelsea and Jimmy’s footage, but when you’re only relying on individual accounts, how do you help the person with preoccupation if they don’t realize their memory is skewed and their partner is afraid to trigger them by saying “No, actually…”

Mary L

I too have a slight bias towards jimmy not because I like men more, but because he is being kind, respectful and rational, where as Chelsea is being defensive and controlling towards Jimmy which I don’t find to be fair. She does not have to be with him if he is not her cup of tea, but it just seems like her approach is to try to mould him to fit her ideals. I also want to note that I do find I generally do have a bias towards women, where I do seem women as superior and I have often challenge this notion which has been passed down to me from my mother. More and more I am having a balanced view of women and men and more judging the attitudes of each on an individual level, rather than making gender generalizations which are often just totally false.

Kristen

oh man i completely see myself in her... only recently have i realised how hurtful it is to say to someone that they don't give a shit about me

Emily

Will there be categories for other kinds of abuse? It's helpful to categorize fights and abuse this way. I grew up in the middle of family fights by the way. Both in immediate and extended family. They were huge. Followed by estrangements. This isn't bad, but still... I guess the act of figuring out who is on the right is triggering. I'm still trying to understand who was right about what in my family's fights, it still feels like that matters. It's all such a whirlpool, I drown in it.

GO!《cɛn

Thanks for this insighful and passionate episode. I loved it! Do you think that reality TV somehow 'attracts' certain personality styles? Perhaps having a relationship on tv is the ultimate test a person with borderline can put their partner through , the public nature of it being attractive and safe in some way? If they feel mistreated in previous relationships, having countless wittnesses to call out any future mistreatment might feel reasuring? Them not being aware of their own potentially abusive behaviour? Just speculating of course.

Femke

As someone who has felt that you have been bias towards men in the past… I don’t think you’re being bias towards jimmy. We are all bias sometimes or see bias where it is not. All we can do is do our best! But anyways, I felt the same way about them & I felt like I was missing something because a lot of people were, “on her side”, simply because they say men are always bad or because of his one hook up with his friend in the past. Even though jimmy told Chelsea about it everyone said it was still all his fault.

MK Average

So appreciative of this series 💕

Heather Macdonald


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