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Two days later a small crowd had gathered in the yard of Pelenia’s home, the guests all wearing amulets to protect themselves with few really understanding why they were there. The only thing they knew was they were all being paid for only a little bit of time to stand there as a ghostly child walked around them, staring deeply into their souls and watching as they cast some simple spells before calling out once he was done.

“Alright, I got everything I needed.”

“Alright, wonderful,” Abrus said. “In that case, thank you all for your time, for your own safety, we ask that you begin making your way back to your homes or go off to enjoy the city itself. You’re all welcome to keep the amulets so it’s the perfect time to take in some of Anailia’s wonders.”

For what they were going to be doing, having too many other bodies there would only put them at risk given how Bloom’s birth had turned out, the spirit nearly insane from the unexpected altering of its very nature, even if he had become more and more stable with each passing day.

Ben’s eyes turned to that very one, having joined the rest of them with a body he’d created for himself. Made of living wood with a green surface layer of photosynthetic cells, he’d created himself a form that was undeniably male, with two arms and legs. A shape that was familiar without being the general form of an incubus, the body Bloom had made was modeled after Ben’s own, the second spirit in the world to use him for inspiration.

Well, I guess that even if I die, I’ve left my mark now that two different immortals have decided they want to look like me.

He noticed Thera glancing that way too, her eyes shifting between Bloom, Ogilt, and Ben before shaking her head, whispering at his side.

“Try not to let this go to your head too much.”

“Alright, as long as you try not to get distracted by just how handsome a couple of your newer uncles are.”

She gave him a look, not one chuckle coming from the joke. “Should I even be thinking of Bloom as an uncle? He’s younger than me.”

“Why would he be younger than you? None of the spirits who went into him are.”

“Okay, sure, but he himself was only born from them a couple days ago.”

“I mean, if he’s not your uncle then I think he’s your grandson then. Which means Pelenia gets to enjoy being a great-grandmother now too. Think she’ll get a kick out of that?”

“I know I don’t. Okay, you win, he’s my uncle now because we are not about to say everyone Mora’s about to change are his children. Anyway, just be ready so we don’t get any repeats.”

“Yeah, you got it.”

The great spirits had been careful in selecting the regular spirits they’d be changing, making sure they were all fully informed of what would happen and what they could expect from it, with Ben having checked all of their minds to be sure they really understood things and were prepared for what was to come, with him still standing by to assist with whatever issues might still come once the change happened. They’d all prepared the best they could, all that was left was beginning.

“So what should I start with?” Mora asked them, with Lux stepping forward.

“Blessing magic. If there’s any issues, at the very least it’s not a destructive affinity. It will be a good test case.”

Mora nodded as light and life spirits came forward, all of them abuzz with the idea of a change, even if it was from curiosity more than excitement. They weren’t against it, they were interested and curious, but in a far more muted way than he would have expected from any mortal gaining the level of power they were about to.

Of course, on the one hand, any mortal might be a lot less excited if they knew they were only going to be getting that power after being merged with a bunch of others, but on the other hand, the spirits don’t seem to care about that fact at all. Oh well, let’s see how this goes.

Ben in particular was watching with wide eyes, not wanting to blink and miss a second of what was about to happen when he’d already missed out on witnessing both the birth of Bloom and the other plant spirits. Souls were one of his many topics of research, something he alone in the universe held the power to create too. How could he not want to see whatever change would take place in the souls of the spirits around him to let them grow into something more?

With the soul sight he held giving him the perfect view as he tried to work out exactly what was happening once Mora began, watching as some structures within them were shifted and changed, his connect stretched out to observe the minds of the spirits themselves too while it was happening before it was done, the alteration snapping into place as the spirits Mora had worked on collapsed to a central point and immediately began to scream.

Oh, that’s not good.

He felt the new great spirit’s mind thrashing, rejected and confused by its new nature just as Bloom had been but before any of the other great ones could react, Ben was already prepared, grabbing hold of its new, singular mind as the first waves of mana came off it while he repeated the exact thing he’d done with the plant spirit. Merging into its deepest levels while it was being driven mad by the nature of its existence, he gave it all he knew of blessing magic and the experience using it of the two holders of it he was aware of while trying to cement its identity with a name, speaking it in both thought and voice.

“You are Grace,” He said firmly, feeling it calm down as it drifted over to his arms, letting itself be held for what comfort it could bring. “And that did not go as well as we’d hoped.”

“How bad was it then?” Abrus asked him, whatever problem there was fixed before any of the others could react.

“About as bad as with Bloom, it looks like even if they think they’re prepared for it, having their nature changed in such a way is just too much of a shock.”

It was an answer that got some frowns from the others but the biggest reaction from Mora, the boy slipping back to take Thera’s hand while she turned to him.

“If it’s that bad then we should stop,” She told them. “Even if Ben’s dealing with it, hurting them like that, even if it’s only going to be briefly, isn’t going to be good for Mora.”

“You’re not wrong,” Ben agreed, seeing the conflicted faces of the other spirits while he kept comforting Grace with his thoughts. “But before we give up completely, Mora, would you be willing to try just one more thing for me? If the outcome is just as bad then we’ll stop, we don’t want you doing anything that’s going to make you feel guilty.”

“Alright, what?” The boy asked, trusting Ben and looking curious about wherever his thoughts were going.

“We still need to make Grace more regular spirits as well but I’d like to put that idea on hold for a couple minutes while we test another way of creating a new great spirit first.”

“Another way?” Funa asked him. “Watching once and you’ve found a second method already?”

“Eh, nothing that exciting, anyone could have thought of this. If there’s no great spirit for them then a group of the available spirits will merge together into one and we’ve already seen that when Mora helps a group of combined affinitied spirits be born then they don’t have any issues. To me at least, that would imply that if he helps create new regular spirits, the lack of a great spirit for them will make them merge together, hopefully in a way that will be less traumatic for them.”

It was an idea that perked the rest up with interest now that their first attempt had gone no better, even with all of the planning behind it, but there was only one opinion that really mattered as all eyes turned to Mora to see what he had to say, with the boy nodding in the end.

“We’ll try it. What magic this time then?”

“I say we balance out the birth of a blessing spirit with a curse one,” Ben suggested. “Nothing else is going to be as harmless now that blessing magic’s been taken anyway so it’s not like there’s a right choice but if things do go wrong again, that’s probably going to be one of the slightly less destructive options we could end with.”

There was no disagreement to that and the death and dark spirits needed came forward, this time spending their mana while Mora used his magic and Thera empowered them as Ben watched, at first thinking he was wrong as the first few curse spirits were born but finding all of that changed only moments after, their numbers grown enough to reach the tipping point and their newfound existence instantly changed as they collapsed into each other, the first great curse spirit being born as a result.

With Ben instantly in its mind and breathing a small sigh of relief as a result. It wasn’t scared, panicked, or confused. It wasn’t suffering from an identity crisis and it certainly wasn't insane. It was a curse spirit, born from those who had been made before it and only lacking in experience as to what that would mean it could do.

“We’ve got a success,” Ben sighed, losing some tension he hadn’t noticed he’d been carrying as all of the others breathed their own sighs of relief, with Thera turning to him now that it was done.

“Looks like you’re not getting to name every new great spirit then.”

“Ha, hey, you never know. Maybe they’ll realize they like my naming sense.”

“Ha, or maybe the others can help them think of something a bit more creative,” She teased. “Bloom for a plant spirit and Grace for a blessing one? You didn’t exactly put loads of thought into that.”

“Hey now, it’s descriptive. Considering I was trying to make sure they understood what they were when I named them too, I’d say I did a pretty good job of it.”

“And that means we can continue, so long as Mora is alright with it,” Abrus said, getting a nod from the soul spirit.

“Yeah, we can continue.”

With no disaster accompanying that attempt, he sounded almost excited, looking forward to seeing what his powers could do and with nothing else to slow them down the process went on, once more changing the shape of the world.

Comments

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Rain

There was not anything to figure out... Mora is the one doing everything. Ben simply stated the solution that would be obvious to anyone who is not focused on power first... as a native Thera is guilty of the power first approach. Ben, being from Earth, does not share this predisposition

Cole Armstrong

It shoulda been Thera who figured this out. Ben gets enough chances to be smart.

Silverias

It would probably be better to make an omni-affinity spirit, and maybe once you get an omni spirit you could inject a butt-load of non-affinity mana and "stir" (so to speak) until you get a non-affinity spirit.

Carl Mason

It isn't a spell that spirits use to reproduce, I didn't think, it was just a critical mass of mana. Maybe both... but a self mana generating spirit with a mana generation of half Ben's would be an exponential spirit formation singularity. He would however have to learn how to make a soul that wasn't his own.

Carl Mason

Tldr; blessing, Curse, Plant, Lightning, soul(dubious since it's more the midpoint between life and death than a combination), and Solar Flame (which might just be a high level flame it wasn't specified)

Cloves

Blessing( light + life | greed the crab being the main known user), Curse( death and dark | mentioned for the first time in this chapter), Plant( water + earth + life | obviously the dryads are the prolific users of this), Lightning( air + water + light | mentioned at the beginning and used by the one with every magic augmentation ability), Soul( death + life | not necessarily though since those basically one in the same at this level), Solar Flame (??? This was mentioned as blessed magic for one of the summoned humans at the beginning, it's unclear whether this is actually a combined magic or not),

Cloves

Shouldn't death + dark be Curse magic? It was mentioned for the first time in this chapter I think

Cloves

Storm Spirit named Ariel.

Carl Mason

Justin, they do have skills, the system lists the magic skill as [affinity] Spirit Magic, and Great [affinity] Spirit Magic. They lack the ability to gain other skills, apparently, so far. Does that mean Ben can borrow it? I don't know.

Carl Mason

Ogilt did choose his name on his own, but after the other Great Spirits explained the concept of personal identifiers. I expect the lesser spirits that have been on world all this time, seeing their Greats run around using names, will understand the concept and be able to handle it alone or with a very small amount of input. Even after the change, they will retain enough awareness of themselves and their previous lives to handle it easily.

Carl Mason

The space in Space Magic is not Outer Space, but physical space, area, volume. So those are maybe stretchy, but otherwise it sounds about right. This does however make me wonder if combined affinities can change based on which affinity combines with which other affinity, meaning fire and earth would be magma, but would earth and fire be lava, or ceramic?

Carl Mason

Presumably, those combinations will have to wait until time spirits are available.

Carl Mason

can we get a list of all the known combined magics?

funktorial

Also don't they need time spirits for some of the combinations?

Joseph Kuhr

Do you think Mora can make more time Spirits and if he does will they merge since the original grate time Spirit went to the end of time?

Joseph Kuhr

I think it was mentioned during the flashback when she was a child when she caught this great spirits talking I could swear that one of them said something about combustion, but I might be wrong

Isiah Debarros

Because non affinitied magic can be basically anything less efficiently than affinitied magic

Corvusamous

Maybe if Ben could override the parts of the spell that spirits use to reproduce? This would probably cause even the normal spirits to go insane if I had to guess

Corvusamous

I completely forgot about mud. Where did combustion magic come from? Is that the actual magic the teir 3 that killed the 19 other summoned with him? I thought it was explosion magic and that Ben theorized it was based on fire and water

Corvusamous

💯

Corvusamous

The system lists it as a blessed skill. I forget if it's a level less skill though. I do remember this from before Ben was held hostage and Thera awakened both her life and earth magic saving him using petrification on one of Vivitus' creations. Viv told Thera that if the spirits magic wasn't listed as their blessed magic it would be a passive magic, this eventually gives Thera the idea to treat spells as passive magics

Corvusamous

Air water dark?

Corvusamous

Plant and lightning are two examples of triple affinity at awakened teir with some races being born with the low versions (I'm assuming the species with natural lightning magic has it as low variant)

Corvusamous

Considering single affinity is tier 1, double affinity is tier 2 (awakened), thriple affinity would logically require godhood.

RSmerlinious0

We already have the Wraith which he saved from the Demon God's prison. It makes little sense to try and invent a species from scratch when basically the same species already exists, but maybe Mora (with help from Thera and her Mana Empowering) could find a way for that Wraith to reproduce and repopulate his own species, which I remember a single Wraith was not capable of for some reason.

max grok

Those got difficult, towards the end. And it's not even including any triple affinity mixes or anything with Time! Though, other than Plant, I'm not sure about too many mixed affinity options.

Collateral_ink

So, let's see here... Light + Life = Blessing. Light + Fire = Plasma (maybe?). Light + Water = umm...Mirror? Light + Air = no idea. Light + Earth = Crystal perhaps? Light + Death = This might be the affinity version of Corpse song, but I got no name for it. Light + Dark = should be Shadow, but I can't really imagine what you can do with it. Light + Space = Stellar? Life + Fire = I got nothing. Life + Water = Blood. Life + Air = Spring (getting kinda conceptual here...)? Life + Earth = not sure. Life + Dark = Nightmare. Life + Space = no idea. Fire + Water = Steam (seems kinda weak, but what else could it be?). Fire + Air = Combustion/Shockwave. Fire + Earth = Magma. Fire + Death = Entropy. Fire + Dark = mulligan. Fire + Space = also stellar? Water + Air = Storm. Water + Earth = Mud (we've already seen this magic exists, but it seems rather weak). Water + Death = Poison. Water + Dark = Abyss. Water + Space = um... comet? Air + Earth = Erosion/Sand? Air + Death = Plague/Disease? Air + Dark = no clue. Air + Space = pass. Earth + Death = Decay? Earth + Dark = no a clue. Earth + Space = Gravity! Death + Dark = Madness/Mind. Death + Space = pass. Dark + Space = Void.

Collateral_ink

That's the neat part: observing Bens "luck" would be all that's needed.

Michigo

You know the big question might be if Ben could find a way to make a non-affinity spirit with mora’s help like seeing as non-affinity magic can do literally anything if you have enough of it a great non-affinity spirit would be insanely powerful like seriously they would be the most powerful being in existence except maybe the gods just the shear amount of mana they would have combined with not being limited by a affinity it would be insane

Phoenixdrop

They don't have skills

justin

Mud and magma. Probably sandstorm, storm, and steam

Cole Armstrong

Storm Spirit named Tempest

Thomas Issa

Name the spirit Hex, Spite, or Eris

Thomas Issa

Can't copy skills from spirits almost certain

Ashlynn & William Elmore

No because soul magic is not non affinity magic. It's life and death. Ben is just fucking insane and uses non affinity magic to replicate the effect.

Ashlynn & William Elmore

I think that is exactly what will happen. And only with both Ben and Mora but yes I wanna see this

Ashlynn & William Elmore

I'm incredibly excited for all of this! But I think we are all forgetting something. Unless I'm mistaken because Ben can now connect to great spirits can't he now essentially get 9th level awakened magic for all Affinity and mixed Affinity magics for enchanting? As has been stated earlier in the story a great spirit magic is equivalent to a 9th level magic and now he can enchant with all thay are known at the highest level. Now I will say I could be forgetting something but this seems huge!

Micah B Graves

I'm pretty sure blessing magic and a god's blessing are very different. If I recall correctly the most prominent blessing magic user that we know of is Greed the crab and his magic mostly is amazing buffs but the reduce a person's likelihood of increasing a stat on there own. Where a gods blessing is mostly a background increasing in getting better. I'd assume a blessing great spirit could probably double the stats of a given group of warriors and mages, or something to that effect.

Micah B Graves

That would be cool

Brudog2

That is a super interesting idea

Voidsong

Amazing

Voidsong

Damn. Each great spirit can handle multiple incursion points. This is huge. What could a blessing great spirit even do?! Like all God's bless people so it's a minor part of them. But a being almost as powerful that is focused on it? Like moras soul affinity letting him do things even soul gods couldn't....

Barkeep

Nice way around the problem. Less trauma for Mora and hopefully his dumpster fire of birth parents aren't doing to come and try to take him away after they realise his "usefulness". Thera will kill Vividus for sure if that happens.

SacredSteel

Would a non-affinitied spirit not essentially be a soul spirit?

KeyDrTrident

So lightning, combustion what else is available

Isiah Debarros

I think he chose his a little after the great spirits explained names

Corvusamous

I mean, that would probably be extremely traumatic if it did work so even in that case, probably not, but if it were to do something like that, I feel like they would try to create time spirits instead of honesty

Isiah Debarros

That would be funny but Mora probably needs to see the type of magic to make the spirits as well

Corvusamous

I mean, if you count them modeling their bodies like the other great spirits, then it's possible because they would be in the form of succubus or incubus

Isiah Debarros

My thought is basically take an existing spirit, and remove the affinitied parts opposite of adding them together.

Benji

So... Ben can materialize souls which can generate their own mana when stuck in the right crystal. And we just recently heard about how spirits are held together by their souls... When is Ben going to start materializing spirits... Or would he need a strong affinity of his own to do that? Could he create the first non-affinitied spirit after seeing what Mora is doing? Just a pure mana spirit?

Person8

As long as a combination of affinity magics exists and he sees the skill so he can re-create it then it should be possible for that to become a new type of spirit. It's just that unless it's been done before he has no reference point

Isiah Debarros

Probably not they would probably need to like look at the non affinity mana being and come up with a way to sort of create more of it

Isiah Debarros

I agree. I also think it has to do with this worlds focus on power and tier. Reminds me of how Ben was forgotten because he came with no t2 skills

Cole Armstrong

My thoughts here are: Can you make a non-affinitied spirit this way? Would it be easier if Ben merged their minds with Connect before their souls were merged?

Benji

I wonder if Ben is still gonna help them out figuring out how to use their magic like the great spirit are so good at the magic they have because they've been around for so long even before they became great spirits if the spirits that join together to become them didn't have any experiences save to save. They wouldn't know how to use their magic to the same level.

Isiah Debarros

It feels like they forgot the forest for the trees but it makes sense that if they created the small spirits first that they could turn into the greater spirits with enough of them being created, but since the regular spirit didn't exist in the first place, they completely forgot that was a thing

Isiah Debarros

Great chapter! Thank you! You are by no means beholden to, but I would love a list of all of the new spirits/great spirits that get created here =)

Benji

I’d be so interested to see a possible combination of blessing and curse

GreatCabbage

How many will come out looking like Thera? TYFTC

Jack the Dream

Probably should have tried the second method first anyway... worst case scenario it doesn't work and the regular spirits are already made. Then you can just follow through with the first method

Cole Armstrong

Creating great spirits in the regular merging way is a pretty smart twist to this whole undertaking. Here is my own silly, but endlessly hilarious twist: one of the new spirit types SOMEHOW ends up as "luck" spirits (or fate spirits), proving once and for all that the universe truly hates Ben. xD

Michigo

Neat. Im glad they found a less traumatic way to do the change. I kinda expect the new ones to ask the others for naming help anyway since names aren't a natural concept even for Great Spirits. Maybe Ben will still get some input. Did Ogilt choose his entirely on his own? I forget. But he also wasn't such a new being, just new to the idea of names.

Emily Gurnavage


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