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Added 2023-04-09 15:58:30 +0000 UTCHoly crap, what else can I add to my bracelets to pass the time? Maybe I could mix a fire enchantment with an air one so it will spit out flames if I scream through it? No, wait, Sonya would be pissed if I started a fire by mistake. Um, maybe I could set it up so that all three of them would shoot out a ball of dirt or metal that’s passed through them? I mean, I could technically do both so long as I don’t actually test either, and there really is the option of just repeating enchantments at this point, but man I’m so, so bored!
Even if he wasn’t as poor off as he had been when mental expansion first leveled up, he was still far from being in top shape, planning on spending another week cooped up at home rather than face the far too loud world, with the only issue being how unreasonably dull it all was. He had been practicing his enchantments the best he could considering he didn’t have a wide variety of tools to test them on and he’d finished off crates of books in that time, both ones he’d bought in previous trips to Anailia and Allfaith, as well as the ones that had started coming in from the guild that he was getting for free for being a rank one adventurer, but they were only able to distract him for so long before he wanted to do something despite his pounding head.
“Myriad, buddy, tell me there’s an easy solution to this I’m just not seeing,” He muttered.
<Even if it doesn’t seem major just keep on having Thera treating you. It is making a small bit of difference and that’s all going to pile up as the months go by.>
“And I get that, but what I’d really, really like is a quick fix that would let me think without feeling like there’s an ice pick wiggling around in my brain.”
<Well, I actually am seeing what I can do right now by discussing the matter with some other gods, it’s just not going super smoothly since someone thought it would be a good idea to try and put them in their place.>
“Ugh, don’t care, I stand by it.”
<Of course you do.> The cube sighed. <So don’t expect any easy solution to come to you immediately you colossal pain in the butt.>
“Yeah yeah, it’s just a few more months of suffering. I’ll live.”
Though the quality of life leaves something to be desired.
Tired of enchanting and reading, he grabbed a blank piece of paper to begin drawing something, not having any subject in mind but needing the change of pace, when a knock came to his door and Thera poked her head in, moving to sit on the edge of his bed.
“Oh hey, sorry I didn’t hear you guys get home. Didn’t realize it was so late but if you give me a minute I’ll get dinner started.”
“You don’t have to worry about that, I still want you to take it easy for a while so I can bring you a plate later. Actually, there’s something I want to talk about,” She told him, looking unusually serious before she continued. “Alright, so you know how I got a letter from Yuzu this morning? Well, she made me… us an offer. One I personally hope you’ll turn down.”
“Uh, what’s the offer then?”
“She wants us to join them for taking on the earth tower.”
Ben froze as soon as the words left her mouth. The earth tower, one of eleven magic-themed trials, considered to be both bigger and more challenging than the standard trial of a god, though he knew little else on the topic. She didn’t need to ask him to turn it down, he had no interest in even considering it if not for one overwhelming issue.
“So should I take the fact that you’re asking me not to accept instead of saying we shouldn’t accept to be a sign you intend to do it?”
She sat there in silence, her answer being obvious as Ben leaned back and sighed.
“Alright, then I’m going. Do we have to leave immediately, or…?”
“Ben, just because I’m going to do it doesn’t mean you have to,” She told him, trying to be both gentle and firm as she did. “I’m doing it because this will be the best opportunity to level my earth magic I can get before we’re all fighting with our lives on the line and I know you don’t actually want to do this. Have you slept well even once this entire week?”
She asked fully knowing the answer was no. He’d been trying to sleep properly instead of spending each night in his god’s realm like he normally would in an attempt to escape his headache, but he was wracked with the same nightmares he’d been having since he’d escaped the trial, making it only a marginally better experience then dealing with his headache, even if it did leave him spending too much time exhausted from it.
“Thera, how am I supposed to not go with you when I know you’re going to do something like that? Trials are dangerous, how could I possibly be comfortable knowing you were going to go do something like that alone?”
“But I won’t be alone. I’ll have Amy and Yuzu and Jake there. In fact, it’s hard to stress just how much worse off you’ll be compared to everyone else there. It’s an earth magic trial Ben, I don’t think I need to remind you just what magic you lack?”
“I didn’t think Yuzu had it either though?”
“She’s a third tier skill holder, it doesn’t matter that she doesn’t. Her teachers probably just want her getting the reward. Compared to everyone else you’d be at a massive disadvantage.”
“Then why did they even extend me an invite?”
“...”
“Thera?”
“Even if it’s known for being a hard trial, it’s not like it had anywhere near the death rate of the last one you did,” She finally admitted. “When they were looking for people to fill their two empty slots I guess they thought of us because of my power and the fact that you can be resourceful. But that doesn’t matter because you’re in no shape to be doing it right now, mentally or physically. Plus, the rewards you’d personally get aren’t even close to what the rest of us will if we get to the top.”
…Probably not the time to be asking why this trial is going to discriminate against me.
“Okay, but there’s one important thing you’re forgetting,” He said as he gently cupped her face in his hands, bringing her eyes to his. “We’re a team. If things were reversed then you wouldn’t want me doing this without you, would you?”
“...That’s not fair,” She sighed, leaning her head against his. “I’d be a lot happier if you didn’t do it.”
“And I’d be happier if you didn’t either, but if this is something you can’t pass on then it’s something I can’t either.”
“Mmh, you really are impossible.”
“It’s part of my appeal.”
“Your appeal is going to get yourself killed, but okay, fine, I’ll let them know. We do have a month and a half before they plan on challenging it anyway so you need to put your all into being in top shape for it, understood?”
“Yes ma’am.”
“Good, ‘cause if you get yourself killed in there I’m killing you,” She said as she got up to leave the room. “It will be a while till dinner so get some rest if you can, you still look exhausted.”
As she left, Ben laid back in his bed, closed his eyes, and forced himself into the realm of his god, finding Myriad had company.
“I knew you’d be coming up here so I brought him over for the talk since he’s been wanting to chat with you anyway,” Myriad sighed as he gestured to the god Nare beside him. “So what is it you want to ask first?”
He didn’t try to talk his apostle out of it. He knew the boy would stubbornly insist on going since Thera was going to as well, but it was obvious that there were gaps in his knowledge that needed to be filled, all the more clear from his talk with Thera.
“Well, I guess the first question is changing to why you thought it would be best to grab another god for this? Hi again by the way, wasn’t expecting to meet up so soon.”
“Ha, our dear cube came to me in a rush as soon as he caught wind of what you were going to be doing. As for why, I was the primary designer on all of the major tower trials.”
That pulled Ben’s attention like nothing else. Even if he didn’t know much about them, he understood that they were a huge deal as far as the trials of the world went, with the fact that Nare was the lead designer denoting his importance.
“So I take it you’re kind of a big deal as far as crafting gods go?” Ben asked, his eyes shining as he did.
“You could say that,” Nare said smugly as Myriad went to explain.
“You could say he has first mover advantage. Aside from the fact that as a god of both challenge and craft, he’s unusually suited to making trials, he was also one of the first gods to settle this world, being the first of the crafting gods in particular.”
“Wait,” Ben told them, feeling connections forming in his head as that information joined with other things he knew. “Does that mean-”
“It does,” Nare told him, a large grin forming in the magma that made up his face.
“You’re going to regret admitting that,” Myriad muttered as Ben went on.
“You’re one of the creators of the system as a whole!”
“The primary architect in fact,” The god told him, feeling a swarm of questions fill Ben’s mind as his original reason for going up there slipped away.
“How did you make it?” Was the main one that came out, causing the god before him to take a more subdued attitude.
“Ahem, sorry, consider that a divine secret.”
“Why?”
“Also a divine secret.”
“Why?”
“There’s just some things mortals aren’t allowed to know. Surely your god has told you that before.”
“Sure, but in the past, it was about things with world-destroying implications. Wait, don’t tell me the way the system was created could be used to destroy the world? Or does the system as it currently stands have some sort of deadman’s switch in it? I could see designing it in such a way that it would access the user's mana for some large-scale destructive spell. Did you build something like that into it to pull the same sort of hail-mary world-killing scenario that Myriad’s kind did as a last hurrah if nothing ends up working?”
“No, of course not! And don’t go spreading ideas like that around, you’ll only panic people with the invasion so close by!”
“I won’t if you tell me how you made it. Or at least tell me why it has to be a secret?”
Nare turned to Myriad, feeling the weight of the apostle’s curiosity as the cube sighed. “Honestly, you just saw how my apostle acted the other day, why did you think it was a good idea to stroke his interest like that? And Ben, he’s really not allowed to tell you. If you do me a favour and let the matter drop I promise I’ll let you know as a final parting gift when you use up your natural lifespan.”
“What? But that could be decades away! At least tell me on my deathbed in general since that seems like it will come a lot sooner.”
“Don’t like hearing how casual you are about that, but fine. Assuming I can and there’s no reasonable way you’ll live, I'll do it. Can’t believe I have to plan out your last moments with you like that just to get you to relax.”
“Blame your buddy for picking at my curiosity. So back to the trial then, what can you guys actually tell me about it? Or the tower trials in general actually since there's what, eleven?”
“Thirteen,” Nare answered. “Was supposed to originally only be twelve, but I and the other gods of crafting disciplines weren’t going to be satisfied with being neglected.”
“What?”
There were only eleven branches of magic, even if one was incredibly vague in the form of non-affinitied magic, so it wasn’t clicking what the other two were till his god filled him in.
“Not all of the tower trials are magic trials Ben, though admittedly most of them are since each branch is considered extremely powerful compared to other skills once it reaches the awakened stage. One that you’re missing is warrior’s tower, a trial to test the challenger’s combat skills, as well as one I know you’ve heard of, craftsman’s tower.”
“Which I was actually hoping to talk you into taking,” Nare said, leaning in towards Ben. “If you put your all into it I’m sure you won’t disappoint.”
“Well, before I even consider the prospect of throwing myself into any more trials than the one that Thera’s doing, can you guys at least tell me whatever I’m allowed to know? Or maybe even more than I’m allowed to know? I promise I won’t squeal on you both and it’s not like the other gods can even look into my mind to see if you gave me any hints.”
His request was flatly ignored as Nare started to explain.
“The gist of it is pretty simple, even if there’s only so much you can be told. All tower trials are five floors high. If you complete the first three you have the chance to leave, only taking the blessing you’ll get for it, or you can climb to the top to get the true reward. Since trials are made to gather faith they can’t be too kind, but in exchange for each floor being a deathtrap, you’ll actually have the chance to quit after completing any of those three floors, though like I said, no blessing unless you finish the third. As for the last two, you have to do them back to back. If you haven’t realized you aren’t cut out for them then the chances of escaping with your life are slim.”
It sounded a bit more reasonable than what he’d just gone through at least, even if he was still feeling suspicious of it. “And why was Thera saying I would be getting worse rewards than anyone else? Genuinely, what does this world have against me?”
“It doesn’t have anything against you Ben and saying your rewards will be worse is only partially accurate,” Myriad explained. “If you complete the third stage and leave you’ll just receive the earth pantheon’s blessing which is honestly already an excellent one, but if you go beyond it, anyone who has an awakened earth affinity skill will receive a level to it on top of it. Since you don’t have anything of the earth affinity you can’t get that, but there are rewards for those few who take the trial but don’t have anything that matches it or an awakened skill. Instead, you’ll receive two levels to any non-awakened skill.”
“Interesting, interesting,” Ben said, his concern about taking the trial briefly vanishing as his eyes shined with greed. “And just hypothetically, can I-”
“You can’t use it to awaken a skill,” Myriad told him bluntly, shutting that train of thought down. “Sorry Ben, if it was something like an eighth-level earth affinitied skill then you could awaken it to the zeroth level of the second tier, but that’s not in the cards for you.”
“You could say that ninth-level skill holders have the best luck with that,” Nare laughed. “The way the faith works out for it, we can just barely justify helping to awaken their skill and then still bring it to the first level after, though that’s not exactly in the cards for you either. Though the soul mage who’s joining you all will be stuck with the same rewards as you since she doesn’t have an earth skill either, the powers that be just want her getting the blessing.”
“Ugh, well I guess a blessing from what? A hundred gods is more than worth the trade-off anyway. Something that good would have to level up basically all of my skills and put my growth rates through the roof, right?”
Even if he didn’t have the chance to use the final reward to level up either of his awakened skills or to use it to awaken his connect like he so desperately wanted, the prospect of just how much a blessing like that could aid in his growth was filling his mind, at least until he caught how the two gods were looking at each other.
“Oh come on, what? Was I wrong to think that when you say I’d get the earth pantheon’s blessing it would come from all of the earth affinity gods? Is it just a couple of them or something?”
“Er, not exactly,” Nare started awkwardly before turning to pass explaining off to Myriad.
“You’re technically right in that it’s coming from all of the earth gods, it’s just that the final blessing doesn’t work out to being equivalent to each one of those giving you their full blessing.”
Ben could immediately see where that was going as he put his head in his hands. “Okay, so then what is it the equivalent of?”
“It’s still quite good! It matches the standard blessing of ten gods, so it’s nothing to turn your nose up at.”
Ben just stared at the two before him blankly, waiting to be told it was a joke, only to watch them both turn away from his gaze.
“...Alright, I’ve decided. I’m bringing atheism to this world ‘cause that’s bullshit.”
“Ben, listen-”
“I know you guys get plenty of faith for these trials Myriad, you’ve told me as much before. Are you jerks really having mortals putting their lives on the line so you all can skim a bit off the top to save for yourselves?”
“I’ll have you know that if you reach the top then the gods in charge of the trial actually lose faith in the end, at least for those who are getting levels to their awakened skill,” Myriad said weakly as Ben stared at him with suspicion in his eyes.
“And what about people who just quit at the third floor?”
“Well, in that case, the gods get more out of it in the end.”
“Of course they do, and when you stack up how much they get for themselves from people either making it to the third floor or dying going farther up compared to how much they lose from people making it to the top, how much farther do the gods come out ahead?”
The silence from both Myriad and Nare spoke volumes as Ben felt his headache coming back in full force as he got to once again confront the difference between what mortals would put in from what gods would give out. Even if that faith was going to be used for the world as a whole in the end, he couldn’t help but think that if the world survived and the size of the rewards didn’t grow to match what mortals were risking then he really was going to start an atheist revolution on the planet.
Comments
I am remembering. As I recall, their first instinct was to stand there pontificating while they killed each other at the command of the forbidden gods. Their second instinct was to attempt to finish the job. It wasn't until their third instinct that they, begrudgingly, allowed them to continue to live in squalor in the woods, all the while playing a game of "not it" when deciding who had to take responsibility for them. So I don't know about you, but I don't really trust their definition of "good." For the most part, I'm pretty sure it includes anything they see as "good for me." I mean, as a continuation of the demidemon situation, think about why they killed the forbidden gods. It wasn't because they had created a slave race and indoctrinated them since their literal beginning of time, twisting them into a state of paranoia so profound that a large percentage were willing to gleefully murder their friends and family at the drop of the hat. No, they weren't killed because of that very evil thing they did intentionally; it was because of the very unfortunate thing (allowing demons access to the system) they did accidentally because it was "bad for them." Most of these "gods" have the morality of a toddler realizing that some things don't belong in their mouths because they taste bad. If, at the start of this world, as they were all just settling in, licking their wounds, terrified about being chased down by the demons, someone comes up with the idea for the system and says it will only take a "small" sacrifice to achieve it, I'm nearly 100% certain that most of them would have just nodded and called that "good enough." And just like a toddler that realizes they've done something wrong, they clam up, turn their head away, and vigorously deny it if they're asked.
Collateral_ink
2023-04-11 14:26:13 +0000 UTCthat’s actually a very good point
Samityaou
2023-04-11 14:18:06 +0000 UTCOooooh I just realized— Thera could take her Charm magic straight to level six with just one Tower’s worth of reward! She could finally have it completely under control!
Sesharan
2023-04-11 11:54:13 +0000 UTCNope. Just straight up nope. Numerous time it was said that only "good" gods were allowed to join this world. Yes some are arrogant pricks and quite recently it has been shown that a few evil ones snuck in, but what you are proposing goes so far against their morality. Simply remember how they reacted to the Demi-demons
Bury
2023-04-11 06:20:38 +0000 UTCJust open up a blessing shop. Pray to Ben the god of sacrilege and the faith wil be added to your account.
Allpa
2023-04-11 00:24:49 +0000 UTCHmmm, so there's some serious, probably deeply damaging secret about how the system was constructed. The options seem limited to me, given that it is a semi-sentient (but hopefully not sapient) soul-enchanting machine, so I'm gonna go with they sacrificed entire populations to collect the souls needed to craft it. Oh, but I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure they asked the for the souls' permission. It's not like they were raised in societies where the "requests" of gods are treated as law or anything... Yeah, absolutely no way this pisses Ben off at all.
Collateral_ink
2023-04-10 23:20:24 +0000 UTCI would normally agree with you, except for the fact that they mentioned HUNDREDS, as at least 200. Meaning that each god is giving 1/20 (or less!) of a normal blessing for the Tower reward. Added over centuries, it's not just a matter of generating faith, it could actually be described as cruel. Especially considering that their believers are risking their lives for this.
Nicholas Williams Chamarro
2023-04-10 16:43:44 +0000 UTCI forgot about her princess title! With the Madman's lover it's going to be hilarious.
Nicholas Williams Chamarro
2023-04-10 15:00:52 +0000 UTCAtheism would be so economically independent though. You'd be leaving value on the table in unused faith generation.
Darth Bayes
2023-04-10 11:51:59 +0000 UTCCould Ben ask for increasing his earth affinity instead?
Luboš Hemala
2023-04-10 09:40:47 +0000 UTCExactly! And the integrated demonic body skill, and the ridiculous growth speed, and Thera’s new title and class… so much fun to be had.
Sesharan
2023-04-10 07:25:11 +0000 UTCAlso how she's going to react to his king of sacrilege skill lol
Nicholas Williams Chamarro
2023-04-10 06:29:51 +0000 UTCAlso, it just occurred to me that I cannot wait to see Yuzu’s reaction to his new skills and strained soul, given how she reacted to him last time.
Sesharan
2023-04-10 04:54:40 +0000 UTCYeah, if nothing else they could grab Steph and have a really good team for the Life magic tower. Two extra levels in Defense Enhancement or All Affinity Resistance Enhancement would be well worth the effort. ETA: not to mention the value of another combined blessing! Ben might be dismissive of their value, but ten gods’ worth of blessing is nothing to sneeze at.
Sesharan
2023-04-10 04:52:04 +0000 UTCWe know gods generally exist BEFORE intelligent life, and the forbidden gods were not allowed to have followers, so logically they don't need that much just to live
Riley Sampson
2023-04-10 01:57:19 +0000 UTCthat of course banks on the mechanics by which gods survive on faith.... because we don't fully know, and it could very well be that gods NEED faith to survive or at least function fully.....
TargetDrone
2023-04-09 21:49:10 +0000 UTCIt’s interesting to see how Ben’s image of an ideal god is shaped by Myriad’s generosity with gifted Connect skills. In his mind all faith that the gods earn should be immediately put towards improving their followers, the way Myriad does.
Sesharan
2023-04-09 20:38:15 +0000 UTCTo be fair, even though Ben came from a capitalistic society he was a teenager back then, he might know that he was living in capitalism but did he truly know the world moved around profit? or did it seem that he was the type of guy that was only interested in what he liked and didn't give a crap about everything else? This might have been the first time he was forced to see how society works. I am not saying he is wrong or right, I am just saying that he doesn't have a broad vision, he is complaining that the gods receive more faith from the delvers than they spent in the blessings but from my point of view it was obvious that it would happen, in order to build the towers in the first place they spent a lot of faith, that happens whenever they act outside the god's realm, so it is obvious that they want a return for the investment that probably took years to pay for itself, the second point is that let's be honest not every blessing they give is worth it, due to the low amount of awakened skills in the world the probability that someone who receives the blessing actually manages to awaken a skill is low, so from the point of view of the gods it is a waste spending a huge amount of faith on something that very likely won't help the world, it might sound harsh but it is true. The third point is that it is a once-in-a-lifetime event unless you are a rare character with a lot of different magic types, which means that once someone gets a blessing they don't come back ever again to the towers and the gods don't receive anything more and thus they see a need to get as much as they can from every single delve. My fourth and last point is that nobody is forced to go to the towers and the ones that go are fully aware of the risks as well as its rewards, Ben forgets that not everyone levels skills as fast as he does and that even a single level can make a lot of difference so it isn't like what he is receiving isn't good, in fact, based on what I understand on average it takes years or even decades to increase a single level, so a trial that automatically increases your skill regardless of the fact that you have the associated magic or not is huge and in my opinion worth every penny of the faith the gods are given.
Leaored
2023-04-09 20:28:34 +0000 UTCah ah ah... did he assume their alignment? ... thats alignmentist :p
TargetDrone
2023-04-09 19:04:10 +0000 UTCGrowing up in a capitalist society doesn't mean he agrees with it. He might be used to greed but presumably one wouod hold gods to a higher standard than Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates. It's expected that mortals are fallible and greedy but gods are /supposed/ to be better. Also the expectation of greed isn't an excuse for it but an explanation (potentially) for why Ben would feel as he does.
HeartHawk
2023-04-09 17:15:40 +0000 UTCi honestly dont know why ben is upset? did his previous live provide everything for free? chances are high he grew up in a capitalistic society, so his expectations that the gods run the trials at a loss or at best cost-neutral is unrealistic to the extreme.
TargetDrone
2023-04-09 17:09:33 +0000 UTCIt is pretty hard to learn new stuff when your headache can be described as "having an icepick stuck in your head"
Bury
2023-04-09 17:09:12 +0000 UTCBen is most likely going to actively tell everyone to never worship him and in fact insist on some other title than "god." Probably something like Ascended or Immortal, which to be honest is a more appropriate title for what these beings are.
Collateral_ink
2023-04-09 17:04:42 +0000 UTCI think the best thing for him to train right now would probably be his Integrated Demonic Body. Since it merged with healing enhancement there's a good chance it'll fix him up.
Saltymen
2023-04-09 16:53:22 +0000 UTCI feel like Ben would have enjoyed the crafting tower trial. Needs to get his head fixed first. At least I can see the soul mage and healing from Thera helping him out. I wonder why Ben isnt getting any more skills instead of just leveling up his existing ones while locked up in his room. I am sure he could have gotten some with his new stats. Exercising a bit to boost his other attributes. Or at least practicing connect with his plants. We know that it helps Ben calm down and Frederick didnt get any spotlight in awhile.
SacredSteel
2023-04-09 16:47:14 +0000 UTCCould be a good way to get all his Tanky skills up before the war starts.
Saltymen
2023-04-09 16:38:13 +0000 UTCthanks for the chapter, am i the only one thinking that rushing every affinity tower is worth 22 non-awake skill levels. For an OP team it’s a very good way to farm hard to train skill (for exemple resistance skills)
Samityaou
2023-04-09 16:33:16 +0000 UTCBut by that point you will probably have reached tier three in three or more of your skills and become a god to be. From Ben's personality i don't think he would be that generous as a god either
Enrico Snipes
2023-04-09 16:17:25 +0000 UTC