March production update

hello you use what like ia please ?

Simno

Y'know, why not just train Lorcas directly on your 3D models? Then it'll do like super accurate recreations.

Futa Lord

Honestly, what is needed is something that’s as good as G4E both dlcs and Royal Descent, I think none of this images compare to that Cerene, and the releasing is overdue

When is the animation coming out?

Cool Zero

Can you share this Lora model?

ntdkg

Hey Miro, Thanks for replying! I'm not saying there's a solution to the AI-generated art problem. The cat is out of the bag, and there's literally no way to put it back in. And literally everyone is using it. Literally. Like, literally? Literally. :P But like others have mentioned... it's hard to consider paying for something that's AI-generated? I mean if it's hot enough, like that red dress (whew!) maybe people will heh. I remain a huge fan of your original content and again, don't mind you playing with alternatives. You're an artist, I get that. Please keep in mind that we all are here because of your *original* content, that got us hooked. :)

Tedhead

yep, there's a bit of that going on in the color scheme def check out the original sized images though, before making decisions here, the details make a big differences

Affect3D - miro

nope

Affect3D - miro

I'm mostly excited about the tech, to me it's obvious that if you don't pick up the tech you will be left behind without a shadow of a doubt, this stuff is revolutionary on a whole other level as an artist myself I'm obviously not interested in stealing from others, as I understand it the AI learns the art styles like an artist would from studying art, it doesn't store the art itself... but either way my goal is to use my characters, style and composition in my unique way.... anyone can create individual images, but imo, bringing it together in a heavily transformed way to tell a story requires artistry.. and I would be the first to buy commercial models put out by artists to profit from their craft, I think that's where things may be heading and it may seem like I'm neglecting 3DX over it, but it's the complete opposite I think it's the perfect companion to 3DX, but I'm making some necessary adjustments that'll go into a lot of detail over in the next couple of months and will explain my response to AI... as soon as the details are sorted, I'll post about here

Affect3D - miro

once I put it together in a cohesive story it'll come together, but first I have sort out the dick girl version and sex scenes...

Affect3D - miro

well there's 2D animation, which I think is quite good, not as good as 3DX but workable... having said the animation side of things is covered by our 3DX work

Affect3D - miro

lol, still writing myself, AI can't carry a vision... in my opinion AI is only useful when it's directed by an artist's hand and assembled into a cohesive whole like a comic or visual novel... anyone can create individual stunning ai images... but a consistent style, characters, story compiled into an actual release is a lot harder

Affect3D - miro

still more or less individual images, but as soon as there are consistent characters and style tied by a decent story they will become alive and it's pretty obvious that I'm getting there, check out the original sizes

Affect3D - miro

interesting idea, I def won't scrap BC, but first priority is a workflow for production releases in a reasonable time frame, I'm discussing that with my next update

Affect3D - miro

I'm working out the specifics, check my next main update

Affect3D - miro

yeah probably a visual novel, that's one of the upside to ai, we'll be able to get into more of the story telling along side great visuals

Affect3D - miro

mentioned in last comments, production animation is release quality animation well the story is broadly placed in the middle ages but obviously, lots of fantasy elements specific to the bloodlust universe yep will link to original images the downsized ones are terrible, check out the original sizes

Affect3D - miro

I suspect the reason why the Cerene White option is currently winning in the poll is simply because the white dress comes closest to the Virgin Killer Sweater™ ideal (except with a long skirt and NO PANTY LINES VISIBLE under the sheer fabric). Red = Blood = Vampire White = Pure = Virginal/Innocent Black = Evil = Villain

IBT

I don't think it's a rant. It's a very good point that needs to be repeated. It's incredibly scummy. These pictures are based on the work of other people. Maybe some would be ok with this, but it's still low to be offering this content in a payed patreon. And remember this is not just some small artist playing around. Miro is/was a big force behind 3dx, he's making thousands from this patreon, he's getting something like 30% off everything other artists sell through his site, all while barely delivering anything in the last few years. It boggles he's so nonchalant about this.

TheGreatCornholio

It's like going to the restaurant of your favourite chef, and he now decides to serve his patrons TV dinners. 😝

Kraig

AI images from text prompts by non artists, can be fun. AI images instead of 3D/CG art from some of the best CG artists on the web (I even like a lot of the guest artists who get to play with Miros assets) seems pointless. None of the AI Cerene's look like Cerene. They look like a stranger playing with an Instagram filter.

Kraig

Because this is Cerene pre-vampire, I don't mind the style. In fact, the red dress is smoking HOT. I see the innocence and haughtiness combined, which is a great job ... by plugging in keywords into AI. /rant As a friend of some artists who live and die by their art, I despise AI art in all its forms. Copyrighted art was plugged into the AI generators that create AI art... without any of their permissions. Many, many artists are now struggling to exist in this AI world. I'm saddened to see Miro+Team choosing this direction. /end_rant Like others, I'm confused about the future and direction of Bloodcrown. I really don't mind side projects from other artists, but this is NOT work of an artist. It's just AI-generated. I hope significant effort is still being put into Bloodcrown. :(

Tedhead

Not digging the AI Cerenes. They don't give off that cold, haughty, yet hot Charlize Theron vibe. Actually, the bottom one with the eye placement is actually giving off a more Anya Taylor-Joy vibe to me. Could be some potential there as another character.

Charles Westfall

I would prefer that you focus on Bloodlust but if you must know a visual novel with animated scene would be better than a comics, if you don't plan to animate it than I am not interested in either of the option

Mickey23

I like the outfits, but AI Cerene does not look like Cerene. Really not enjoying the AI art focus. I would enjoy comics and VNs of the real Cerene, but not this AI deep fake off model one. Actually, no, since her cock is grown with magic, I wouldn't want a comic or VN of pre Vampire Cerene. I'm here for Futa content, preferable Futa on Futa. Unless somehow pre Vampire merchant daughter Cerene knows magic, or is a natural futa. That said, the lore is interesting, I like hearing more of your characters backstories. Hopefully you aren't having an AI write that to.

Grayve

From amazing original content, creating unique characters and settings down to lifeless AI generations. The future's looking mighty bland.

CyCaDeLiC

So ... NOT Cerene produced by NOT miro ... Meanwhile, Bloodlust languishes in Production Hell.

IBT

I rewatched G4E & both DLC's last week. Then I watched the first two bloodlust installments. After that I went thru the photosets released here.. Love thy neighbor, Seed of Rebirth & Flying high were amazing. Got me thinking, Since Bloodcrown has been reset and on the shelf so many times, I am tired of vampires. Since Bloodcrown all has to be restarted, I wished scrapping Bloodcrown all together & just do Flying High or Seed of Re-birth a feature length production. I mean new technology for animation is just going to come out in 2023 and then it's OOPS - Gotta start over again.

MarathonWZ

Agreed. I would rather see an actual artist do this.

ForeShadow

I can't even keep track of this anymore. Is Finalizing a first production animation referring to the actual Bloodcrown release? As mentioned in November, I guess you said that Bloodcrown is now going to be released in installments/episodes?

MarathonWZ

We have come to a time when the Side story's (A.I.) outline has more clear and more plentiful than the Animation (Bloodlust). Next Lanessa's update should have more progress than last year(Or the last 2 years, I don't remember). IMO But VN idea is also great, it's better than pic with no explanation like the previous image set. (For me, skip it and rush the Lanessa)

Dorio

The Affect3d/Miro patreon experience continues unabated in March 2023: 1st week - work by another artist (TheDude); 2nd week - work by another artist (Serge); 3rd week - work by AI (i.e. multiple other artists not even credited and copied by the AI). What wonders will next week bring? I'm sorry if this was already explained, but what does 'production animation' mean exactly? Is this a fabled part of the actual Bloodlust movie or just a random animation using Bloodlust characters? Wait is Bloodlust supposed to take place in our world or in a fantasy alternate world? Personally I'd rather you just go full alternate world tbh. Nice to see some mention of the story, even if it's a few lines. Hope we see more or this soon. All the versions have that Chinese/Korean look the AI seems to love to copy. The black one seems a little too rich for non nobility. If you are basing your world on real medieval history, the merchant class really didn't afford to show wealth comparable to the nobility until the late middle ages in Europe, so 900-1000 seems a little too early. Comic or visual novel is fine either way. Just pick the one you'll work on and not find excuses to not complete it (looking at you Love bite and Flying high visual novels). Could you attach the pictures in the post? They look weird when opened in a new tab.

TheGreatCornholio

I'd rather you just focus on CGX rather than wasting your time with this. I don't like any of these as-is. The red Cerene looks the best but I'd make her outfit black and put her in the black scene instead because I've always imagined her more like a Princess before being turned. As-is the red one's face/hair and cleavage from the outfit by far looks the best. If you MUST continue with this then go for a comic. But honestly her origin comic would've been way better if you'd actually gotten Dmitrys to do it like you originally planned.

Futa Lord

The structure of the dress in white is more realistic considering the volume it must carry and could allow a slight separation of those majestic globes

Jack Pinder