Phoenix Hawk IIC Concept Sketch
Added 2021-04-22 05:50:01 +0000 UTCPhew. That title is a doozy.
The Phoenix Hawk IIC is another one of those VMI mechs we're hitting where it's original depiction shows none of the weapons it carries. With that we've got some interesting choices to make. Break up the original core shapes to house weapons, or give it semi or fully extrenal weapons pods.
This one was tricky for that because it calls for both long UAC10 barrels sticking out the front, and long jump packs on the back of each side torso. I couldn't go with full shoulder guns, as they'd not mesh well with the JJ's. Didn't want to do underslung belly guns. And I didn't want to completely eat up the cool chest plates. Landed on this mix of the first and third options.
It was also interesting sizing up a lower end medium mech all the way into an assault. Several areas, particularly the head, carry over details from the new regular Phoenix Hawk.
What do you think of it?
Comments
Great job!!!!
Joshua Bressel
2021-07-07 09:11:05 +0000 UTCLooks great in the Rec guide 15 line art!
2021-05-08 05:14:37 +0000 UTCGood idea.
Anthony Scroggins
2021-04-24 22:38:02 +0000 UTCLooking forward to see a size comparison between this and it's 45 ton older brother.
Charles Lubanje
2021-04-24 07:35:50 +0000 UTCI like the cannons.
Tyler Erickson
2021-04-23 20:58:33 +0000 UTCThere are some decently big ones on the back, they're just hidden behind the huge shoulders. When I post the 3D you'll see.
Anthony Scroggins
2021-04-23 05:11:35 +0000 UTCI really like the new cannons, and I appreciate that it looks like it descended from the new Phoenix Hawk. My one criticism is that I miss the large fins from the original VMI design. They said "This thing shouldn't jump, but somehow it does"
Peter Shah
2021-04-23 00:00:01 +0000 UTCPracticality must give way in all things
James Bixby
2021-04-22 23:55:37 +0000 UTCMaybe Blood Asp like canons?
Richard Jensen
2021-04-22 22:39:44 +0000 UTCThe head antenna barely fit, but they do. Doesn't leave much room to turn the head though.
Anthony Scroggins
2021-04-22 22:11:34 +0000 UTCShadow Hawk style gun pods are about the limit of how crazy we want to go on those. Building them into the JJ pods would completely break the Battletech aesthetic.
Anthony Scroggins
2021-04-22 22:10:05 +0000 UTCIf we could crisply cast more rotary barrels I'd do that, but they tend to go mushy.
Anthony Scroggins
2021-04-22 22:08:44 +0000 UTClol
Anthony Scroggins
2021-04-22 22:07:02 +0000 UTCOnly other possible location is belly/waist guns.
Anthony Scroggins
2021-04-22 22:06:34 +0000 UTCNo, no I did not.
James Bixby
2021-04-22 18:39:37 +0000 UTCDid you know they make a 4 barrel version, originally designed for gun pods. https://youtu.be/Ddl-Hxbw3V0. (Pay no attention to the weight of the gun...)
Chuckv
2021-04-22 18:20:56 +0000 UTCThis certainly looks much better than the original miniature, and it does straddle the line between the original concept art and the Project Phoenix versions, so I think from that perspective, it's excellent. I'll admit I've never been a fan of the Phoenix Hawk IIC regardless, so I don't have a lot of skin in this game, but I'd buy one of these!
Robert Schuster
2021-04-22 18:00:11 +0000 UTCIt is gorgeous. The leg has more details than the entire original miniature. It would be incredible to see it in a dinamic pose. There are antennae on the head? How will they interact with the jump jet ports? Would be too close? Also, extra kudos on the fin design for the jump jets
2021-04-22 15:40:23 +0000 UTCI'm echoing everyone else by saying it both look great and awkward. Another example from the wider world of combining weapons and jump jets that I like is: https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/RX-78-6_Mudrock_Gundam
2021-04-22 14:18:25 +0000 UTCThat looks great, but the UAC10s are a bit awkward. In my opinion, and I know you said you didn't want to do it, they would be better served in the latissimus area or outer abdomen. Conversely, creating something more akin to the SLDF Royal variant or VF-1S Super Strike Valkyrie with the canons attached to the jump jets. https://www.rocketpunch.biz/completed-hasegawa-72-vf1s-superstrike-valkyrie/ www.macross2.net/m3/macrossdyrl/vf-1s-strike.htm
Richard Jensen
2021-04-22 14:13:57 +0000 UTCyou did your best with the mission statement you had. got to be honest the VMI Pixie IIC is one of those designs I would have just thrown completely out and started from scratch on the look, especially with the history of HOW it became the Phoneix Hawk IIC during initial publication. I like the legs and the arms here, and I see the head module as being ripped off an original PHX-1. autocannon mounts are a good comprimise, as you said in the post. perfect world I would have gone for a seven barrel arraingment like on the A-10's
James Bixby
2021-04-22 13:55:22 +0000 UTCCan it dance?
Andrew Wiesner
2021-04-22 13:51:25 +0000 UTCNice!
Kanrei13
2021-04-22 12:57:45 +0000 UTCNow THAT'S a MegaPixie! You're posting these just as I'm accurizing/repainting a Locust IIC, and now I can't wait to see what you do with that one!
Terence Harris
2021-04-22 12:54:29 +0000 UTCCannons need to be lowered or raised.
Trevor R.N.
2021-04-22 11:22:32 +0000 UTCNice! I can't wait for the other VMI IICs!
Raymond White
2021-04-22 10:56:26 +0000 UTCVery nice, like the gun placement overall massive upgrade to the orginal
Mark D Booth
2021-04-22 10:25:51 +0000 UTCThat now *looks* BattleTech, in a way it didn't before. The weapon placement still looks a touch awkward but there's not much can be done about it, sticking to the RS. Big, big improvement imo.
Andrew Dickinson
2021-04-22 08:04:32 +0000 UTCOh my word. That is an interesting development
Alex F
2021-04-22 06:49:19 +0000 UTCThat looks... Incredibly amazing!!!! :D
Sapphirus
2021-04-22 06:03:09 +0000 UTCNailed it! <3
Jordan G Roberts
2021-04-22 06:00:03 +0000 UTCOh my. That looks amazing!
Randall Burt
2021-04-22 05:53:15 +0000 UTC
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