This movie makes me hate music. Excuse me, I need to go watch Encanto to remember what a good movie musical looks like.
Aqua Lantern
2025-08-25 02:47:31 +0000 UTC
youve stumbled onto a great debate in theatur must music drive the plot of a muscal or is the music a tool to represent hightend emotion visa vi when an emotion is to strong to speak i sing it .
Lance Ivy
2025-08-20 20:29:56 +0000 UTC
2 ideas . folie au duex is not the shared delision of the two chars but insted the shared delsion of you the viewer and auther . hince the musical
2. The joker kind of became the favoarite movie of alot a bad people we are way to rott brained on being cool and edgy so they wanted to shake them off by making this one a suprise musical
Lance Ivy
2025-08-20 15:08:50 +0000 UTC
i dont think joker has ever been that . jokers jumps between unknoable eldrich chaos . and being forced into his role by one unspeakble horror or another . i dont think he has ever been a system
Lance Ivy
2025-08-20 14:32:57 +0000 UTC
you know this movie probably would have been fine if it wasnt a musical. the singing breaks all the tension they try and build
Benzyon Stuff
2025-08-18 20:36:32 +0000 UTC
Yall must be on yall Masochist arc with this reaction. It's so bad lol
DeAnthony Potts
2025-08-18 12:09:20 +0000 UTC
Wish you guys engaged with the movie on it's own merits
BunnyRabbit
2025-08-16 20:39:46 +0000 UTC
I wanted to watched this but never got the courage lol. My ex said it was horrible and he is abigger movie buff than I am. I'll just watch with you guys🤣
Joi Rene
2025-08-16 20:34:52 +0000 UTC
It was 5/10 for me too, I just think it shouldn't exists if this was all they wanted to make
Memento Forever
2025-08-16 03:39:47 +0000 UTC
Cards on the table, never watched this one. Heard bad things but ill watch it to laugh with yall lol
Moon
2025-08-15 07:27:22 +0000 UTC
This movie wasn’t as bad as I thought it was gonna be, it’s the perfect mid movie. A 5/10 that I have no opinions of one way or the other, it just exists.
Michael
2025-08-15 04:40:01 +0000 UTC
I do not understand why Alicia is so aggro about the multiple personality thing. I agree it’s a terrible plot but she’s acting like the concept stole her lunch money and punched her mother. It seems personal to her.
Michael
2025-08-15 03:32:34 +0000 UTC
The title is a reference to a psychological disorder known as Shared Psychotic Disorder better known as folie à deux (Crazy for Two) where a person with Delusional disorder (where they usually have one or more belief or hulisination that isn't real) passes that delusion two another person they are relatively close to (most commonly a family member or significant other).
Thatonefriend42
2025-08-14 17:25:03 +0000 UTC
I just watched the reaction. Yeah the point was to make us feel bad about liking the first movie so that all the people who wrote mean articles about the first movie would praise them for the second one.
At the end the guy that stabs him is meant to be Heath Ledgers joker and he’s seen carving a smile into his face and laughing. Every reference to future things was so cheap and half assed in my opinion.
I agree with you guys. Walking back the first movie was the biggest “fuck you” to everyone watching. I also miss evil villains in movies. Everyone is trying to make them either boring or secretly good. The singing was way too much and added nothing except maybe pain and suffering to the audience.
I’m going to try and pretend that this movie was just a bad dream and it never actually existed. I suggest that everyone else does the same in order to preserve your sanity.
Thanks for taking the time to do this reaction anyway. It was 2 hours too many but you got through it for us and that’s appreciated.
TougherCoot 05
2025-08-14 00:59:48 +0000 UTC
I can't give you an exact time and date but I assure you it's not the first time
Mildly Nuclear
2025-08-13 21:28:00 +0000 UTC
I just realized Alicia said nigga at around 35:50 that’s gotta be a first 😂
Notto
2025-08-13 20:23:00 +0000 UTC
I have a theory this movie was made bad on purpose to protest the studio demanding another one
Alex Pinals
2025-08-13 19:16:27 +0000 UTC
Since its late and Im tired I kinda skipped through a bit, but for me the movie is mid, like a 5/10 too many songs, even if its a musical the movie only needed like 3 songs. The rest felt random and the plot went nowhere and should have been a cooler ending if he was going to die anyway, he should have stayed as the Joker and went out in chaos. This Movie is a 5/10 for me. Or at least let bro escape. I understand the point of the movie and why it was made the way it was, but I think it should not have been made, if this was all they could come up with or to be more specific, wanted to do. This sequel should have been more ambitious , I agree what Ant they should just let him be the Joker and die or escape doing some crazy stuff, would have been more satisfying
Memento Forever
2025-08-13 05:22:30 +0000 UTC
To be fair on using outdated terminology and understanding, the movie is based in 1983. Homosexuality was still in the DSM as a condition at the time.
Aliulo
2025-08-13 04:14:01 +0000 UTC
Im at 33:47 atm and this movie seems okay so far...
Memento Forever
2025-08-13 04:01:54 +0000 UTC
Yeah lets just not watch it buddy, save ourselves the headache
Robert Mitchell
2025-08-13 03:44:08 +0000 UTC
Im scared to watch this reaction... thought its a first for me too, I heard only bad things from this movie and skippe dit in theatres last year, I do like musicals though, but I was really hoping it wasn't bad but I did spoil myself a bit about the ending last year
Memento Forever
2025-08-13 03:40:39 +0000 UTC
1:18:06 omfG there's no way this movie hired any legal consultants for the courtroom scenes. For context, the only people in a trial who are allowed to opine (i.e. give their opinion) on ANYTHING while on the stand are subject matter experts.
EXPERTS.
The prosecutor flat out says "I know you aren't an expert but what's your opinion" YOU CANNOT DO THAT god this movie was bad
MrDudePerson
2025-08-13 01:13:46 +0000 UTC
I went in so excited when this first came out because I loved the first one and I left feeling depressed and later became angry. It’s like they made an effort to make this movie as terrible as possible.
TougherCoot 05
2025-08-13 00:03:46 +0000 UTC
Well I hated that. I'm going back to re-watching One Piece. (And the whole reason the "Joker" in Gotham was so weird/bad was because they didn't have licensing for Joker so they couldn't do anything but make some references.)
Depresso
2025-08-12 23:55:50 +0000 UTC
What REALLY made me mad watching this was seeing just how GOOD the movie was during the court scene when Arthur fully gave in to being the Joker. When he was going full on Joker in the court room with the southern accent that was REALLY fun and showed just how great it would have been if he had actually been JOKER the whole time. Then they IMMEDIATELY took it away.
Sniper Delta
2025-08-12 17:35:26 +0000 UTC
also valid crashout from both of you during and after. it was a mess of a movie
mld-Drake
2025-08-12 16:54:38 +0000 UTC
to be fair to the Gotham show, they didn't have the rights to the name Joker and that's why they had to do the bs concept thing. this one was just cringe at the end with the other dude killing Arthur and then cutting up his face like Heath Ledger had in the Dark Knight.
mld-Drake
2025-08-12 16:52:33 +0000 UTC
The last 6 minutes of the reaction was the best part
Adrian
2025-08-12 12:07:21 +0000 UTC
TBH, Joker was a movie I actively disliked when I saw it back when it first came out. Did not want to watch the second one, but your reaction/commentary might just make it bareable
Nic Woolfe
2025-08-12 10:54:13 +0000 UTC
And talk about not staying true to characters, I mean who the hell is lee. Harley is already the nickname. So they gave her a nickname for her nickname. And instead of using her actual name harleen they just change her government to harley? Why? That might actually just be rage bait directed at me.
Jermtheworm
2025-08-12 07:49:12 +0000 UTC
Its just so sad, the actings good, the cinematography, the music is a bit much but most of the dialogue is good, the writing is decent like it makes sense for the vision that they are trying to portray, but the problem is the vision itself. Why would the make the joker himself just not be the joker? After all the development in the first movie that drove him to that point it's just shat on? And why is harley quinn just some obsessive joker fan girl? Obviously she should be into him at some point since it's harley quinn, but from the start? It's supposed to be that joker is a horrible influence on her but in this movie it's almost the opposite. And then after this long movie you just kill him? Why? Who actually wants to see that from a joker movie? And it's not even just that he's a comic book character, it's that the first film already established this context that he's become the joker, he was fully there mentally and had no regrets about what he did. But now in this film he does? Even if the way they twisted the context of the first one makes enough sense, it's still just something that nobody wants to see. So why? Why make so many decisions that appeal to such a small number of people? They could have easily made a good second movie, especially with harley quinn being involved, but they couldn't even make their dynamic interesting. There are just so many things they could have done to make it fit within the context of the first movie while also being compelling, but they just didn't. It's so disappointing.
Jermtheworm
2025-08-12 07:46:17 +0000 UTC
I had heard this was a terrible movie, but after watching it, I gotta say Yep.
The Savage Gentleman
2025-08-12 02:00:02 +0000 UTC
This was a movie
MarakamiSG
2025-08-12 01:00:27 +0000 UTC
After watching this movie.... I don't want to listen to another song for a long while
Jaffar Black Fang
2025-08-12 00:50:35 +0000 UTC
Get a judge, jury and executioner!
Pick DREDD next!
DanielTheHamster
2025-08-11 23:28:56 +0000 UTC
When this was first announced, I was optimistic cuz I liked lady Gaga enough in American Horror Story for that one season she was in but then everyone said it was terrible beyond all reason and I haven't had the heart to watch it. The time has come
Girthquake23
2025-08-11 23:16:14 +0000 UTC
You see the point of Joker 2 is to tell you that you were dumb for liking Joker 1. Its so shrimple
Cole Savoie
2025-08-11 19:47:50 +0000 UTC
I'm so glad Ant is back and around more, that end rant was based as shit.
Okoga
2025-08-11 19:43:08 +0000 UTC
Have to watch the penguin series it’s so good
Brandon Holaday
2025-08-11 19:23:11 +0000 UTC
actually I loved the second movie too because if you watch this movie not with a point of The Joker (Arthur Fleck) origin villain story but the Joker phenomena as Folie à deux (delusion or mental illness shared by two people in close association) but more spread through people minds and creating versions of Jokers we know.
Something like joker from batman dark knight with a scars on his mouth (in the background when Arthur Fleck bleeds out he cuts his mouth). The Joker is not about a character joker its a Joker phenomena as whole.
Because even in first film Arthur was a killer and looked like a new alternative origin story of joker but as a character Arthur could not become Joker and fight Batman. of course itis my opinion, but for me its sad that people made only bad impression of this film.
Pokora Mora
2025-08-11 19:22:01 +0000 UTC
That one was an intentional middle-finger, wrapping it back around to absolute kino. This is just a too little/too late cashgrab.
James Ancester
2025-08-11 19:02:59 +0000 UTC
If you want an eyes cleanser to watch that's DC related after seeing this awful creation I suggest the Harley Quinn and Batman movie. Its a fun watch
Artemis
2025-08-11 19:02:01 +0000 UTC
Not since Freddy got fingered has there been a bigger middle finger in cinema history
But here it is Joker 2