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Star Trek TNG: 206-208

Episodes: The Schizoid Man, Unnatural Selection, A Matter of Honor

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Star Trek TNG: 206-208

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They didn't stop aging, they just corrected the two molecules in Pulasky's DNA that had been altered by the disease. Quick info for nerds: As far as I know, the aging process occurs due to the increasingly shortened telumeres during cell division/renewal. And the less oxidative stress and inflammation there are in the body, the slower this process takes place.

Lord Joe

Honor: “I would love to try it- probably tastes great…” 🤣 George foods with much honor. This space pirate version of Klingons is silly to me, interesting for TV and Film but as TNG and later shows advanced the full gamut of the universe they turned an advanced species from cruel and dangerous species into savage space pirates that have honor but use cloaking tech - ok 👍. I want Riker to have worn Klingon wardrobe for complete culture exchange ☹️. Malfunction in the translator it’s actually Klingonameters 🤣 George is obsessed with things being used as weapons- we need George on the couch to understand this more. 🧐

SpankTheMonk

U Selection episode has so many poorly established plot convinces for the sake of the story. But remember that Starfleet and Federation wouldn’t use those tactics if so, unless George means someone else steals the biotech outside of Starfleet and Federation. Also you probably could say that for many episodes in sci-fi tv shows. Transporter restoration achieved. Transporter is only supposed to hold a temp pattern on the most recent transport based on compressed patterns I believe. It takes a lot of energy and memory to store a full human pattern. Again my rough understanding this is so that you keep integrity in transport.

SpankTheMonk

Our DNA gains errors through damage and mutation- which contributes to other affects that lead to degradation in adult aging. Also this episode is Willy Nilly with canon and other things.

SpankTheMonk

Yeah the writers for Unnatural Selection seemingly purposely forgot about the Eugenics issues for the sake of the story. The concept of the episode was interesting ( the aging disease ) but they are making a lot of compromises for the sake of one episode. Yes the transport dislike and other character decisions does mean the attempt to add the conflicting personality, however I am with Simone that Dr P has more dimensions than that attempt if true.

SpankTheMonk

Another example of people just not understanding how Time Turners work. A Time Turner cannot alter established events. To everyone BUT the time traveler, everything must proceed as normal in the course of events. In Time Turner time travel, the events of the time travel are already a part of the established timeline. That is why the rocks were thrown at Harry in Hagrid's shack in the FIRST experience of the events. That is also why wizards who time travel cannot encounter their past selves. So, the very popular and ridiculous question of "Why don't they just go back in time and stop event X?" is answered by: Because that event already happened. To the time traveler, going back in time and killing Voldemort is impossible because they live in a timeline in which Voldemort exists. If they go back and kill him, then that timeline ceases to exist, and the wizard would have no reason to travel time in the first place, creating a massive paradox. Time Turners are not the massive, world-changing, story-breaking, super technology that they just lampshaded and forgot. They are a moderately useless trinket that is more dangerous to use than not to.

Chase Lonnergan

I could be mistaken in my reasoning, but I don't think what they did with the transporter means they can just recreate their younger selves. My understanding is that the antibodies from the Children altered a normal human's DNA. So the solution simply removed that alteration. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe our DNA changes much, if at all, as we age. So I don't think this would allow someone to just remove their age the same way it removed the DNA alteration. Although I think that would mean while Dr. Pulaski should've simply stopped aging at the accelerated rate, she should've remained the age she reached while her DNA was altered. Aaaaannnd now my brain hurts. Time to go outside.

James Wilson

So, using the transporter to restore the crew member to their previous backup, like a cell phone 😂

LazyBoy Stays Up Late Watchin Video Tapes

Simone might do better to just egg George on when he expresses his views . As in ; "Oh , I know right? Dr. Pulsaski is so insufferable!" (*^ ‿ <*)♡ ┗(▀̿ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)┓

LazyBoy Stays Up Late Watchin Video Tapes

I am really excited to see Georges reaction to it. It's one of my all time favorites. And I am certainly not alone.

s0rd3z

I have been looking forward to George seeing episode 9 for quite some time and it's almost here (well technically he has seen it probably I just haven't seen the reaction yet) And I love how one of these episodes kind of plants seeds for it in a way for it. Episode 9 is one of my, and many others, top episodes of all of TNG.

s0rd3z

Unnatural Selection is a good episode, but the whole thing where the genetically altered kids look like 20-something's is just distracting. It's actually not necessary to the plot, and it's kind of awkward to watch these adult guest stars trying to pretend like they're children. They literally could've just cast actual kids and had the exact same plot. And then in the end when they're exiled to a lifetime quarantine, it would've felt more tragic.

WastedPo

ones a co-worker within the universe where they have to interact daily, and have professional courtesy. the other is a real person remembering a fictional character on screen, a person that has seen a total of maybe 3 times.

Lubbock

George: Omg, new doctor, it's DATA, not Data. also George: What's her name? Dr. Placenta?

Gary Fixler

Or space pirate barbarians

SpankTheMonk

Happy Birthday!

SpankTheMonk

Glad you survived! Live long and prosper 🖖

SpankTheMonk

Two recent TNG episodes where the guest actors end up in the same film, The Prestige! Data insecurity leads to corruption and compromise. Did I see ensign Sonja Gomez briefly! Schiz: another great Picard speeches episode.

SpankTheMonk

Picard reminding George “Engage-d” hand to face meme

SpankTheMonk

Took too long to find just these hallowed words isolated! Peace be with you 🖖

SpankTheMonk

Well, for one thing, the Federation's ban on genetic enhancement wasn't established until later in the franchise, so if anything it's the later episode that retconned this. However, I don't think the Darwin Station's research falls within the limits of such a ban anyway, since their experiments are essentially a form of gene therapy for medical purposes (improving the body's immune response), and not selective breeding to produce a `superior` race 🖖

Patrick47

She's not wrong; at this point in the show, O'Brien wears a Lieutenant's pips 🖖

Patrick47

This is probably obvious but I just think that as much as I actually like Pull Sackee (don't you hate when that happens, like sitting the wrong way and one gets scrunched?), I think she just wasn't a good fit because, to me Bones and Spock were necessary to balance Kirk, he's intelligent and brave and moral, but you know how Kirk kind of sometimes goes into situations with balled fists and chest first, he's almost a hero from Western which makes sense because TV back then was a lot of tough guys with neat haircuts and no facial hair; and Spock and McCoy sort of hold him back sometimes, not in a bad way, but they'd say "But Jim", they were Kirk's But Guys. But Picard doesn't really need anyone, usually, to hold him back in anyway, he's already a calm, steadfast, logical, sagacious commander, and brave. Beverly "Bedside Manner" Crusher is strong and capable and like a calming presence, and if I'm being honest, for me it's her chemistry with Jean Lúc, and Gates McFadden is striking. Speaking of getting your sack pulled lol, I saw this post once, just the question, something like, "as a woman, if you were a man for a day, what would be the worst thing?" And like 99% of the comments were women saying "having balls" because they can often be very inconvenient, especially against people who fight dirty, also lawn tools, and my cousin's toddlers.

MacGuffinStuff

At least that would have been a more interesting and memorable ending than Tasha Yar got.

Angzarr

You beat me to it!

John

I'm sure someone beat me to it, I always watch these reactions after work and even on my days off I watch after I'm done for the day, but the actor who played the Vulcan doctor in Schizoid Man will be back, I knew I recognized her from something, when she stood in frame with Worf it clicked.

MacGuffinStuff

I really have trouble suspending disbelief with this one. The idea that a DNA change would instantly change hair color back from white, repair joint damage, etc etc just makes no sense.

Angzarr

Simone, you're thinking of Heart of Glory. That was the last "sounds like a Klingon" episode.

Lex Kuzma

Drastic measures (Michael Keaton) 🙌

Korpse

I got too excited for Star Trek day and ordered too much Taco Bell. Just woke up from a 2 hour food coma after finishing the first 2 episodes.

Zerocyde

Star Trek day :)

Jpsynergy

Thank you, I recognized Klags face and didnt know from what. Now i know it was from X-Files. Was surprised to find out, that he played multiple roles in TNG and DS9.

doe555

"Lieutenant" O'Brien. SMH. Simone just lost her Star Trek card.

Andrew

FYI, William Sheppard is also the father of Mark Sheppard who genre fiction fans might recognize from shows like Supernatural, Leverage, Warehouse 13, Firefly and Doctor Who.

AVATAR-X

Are you saying that Pulaski doesn't do it for you?

WastedPo

I feel like the Ira Graves episode was written with Crusher in mind (pretty Doctor) and so they had to create Selar in order to fill that gap in the script.

StonyD

Star Trek day always puts me in a good mood and the episodes just get better from here, keep it up.

David N

we need a compilation of the "Space...Fuck"s and a tally how often she got it right vss not ;)

Piep

The Federation bans genetic enhancement of people (due to the eugenics wars featuring Khan) so I'm really not sure what was going on here.

Alan Pownall

Just realised what the first episode is next week...

Ph4ZeD

The captain of the Klingon ship is played by Chris Collins aka Chris Latta. For those children of the 80s (like me) we grew up with him as the voice of Starscream in Transformers and Cobra Commander in GI Joe. Sadly he died in 1994.

Henchmen21

Riker like a hurricane!

Gryff

To Simone, regarding getting a TNG tattoo, make it so!

Namaste Life Coaching

George: "Oh, you're not even going to try this time." Simone: "No, not this time. Nope. False. That's totally made up. I made it up. Pure fiction. It's fiction. I made it up. I made this one up. It's a made up tale. Total fabrication. Have you walked out of a mall into a huge parking area, and realized you forgot where you parked your car? Ever gone mountain biking? Have you called a plumber to your home lately? How much money would it take to make you spend the night in a cemetary? " George: "..............................................."

akaTheBARON

I've always liked A Matter of Honor. It sets a great tone for Klingons in future episodes of this and even other series. I love me some Space Barbarians.

Jomero

Oh nono, they didn't reverse aging in the second episode. All they did was reverse the specific damage done by the "antibodies". That alone brought back her previous "form", because all the aging happened because of the dna changes. Doesn't make sense? You're absolutely right, but that's the explanation.

Thall

lmao.... Simone having a "Enterprise tramp stamp" just make me laugh

DasBigUn

In 207: they created people using the genetic understanding of other species to CREAT those (children) and that type of modification isnt allowed. It was HIGHLY regulated to begin with and LOSING a crew and ship..I think that is what lead to them banning that knowledge entirley. After all, there is an episode of DS9 that goes into it. ALSO, I think you are misunderstanding the problem with those EXTENSIVE modification too the Teleporter is nearly implossible to actually achieve multiple times. HELL, O'Brian mentioned it was a extremem RISK too the crew AND the transporter. ALSO, all the mods too the children where made BEFORE they where "Born" they where not natural in ANY way. FINALLY, the last thing, the Federation would never allow any sorta gene-weapons to be made (they know about them and their defense agianst them, but they would never develope them for use activley....MAYBE A CERTAIN SECTION between 30 and 32)

DasBigUn

I'm just gonna say it. As far as Trek series go. Lower Decks will make all your wildest dreams come true. Vote for Pedro.

Gryff

Do not worry George, there are plenty of Worf episodes coming. Deep and complex episodes.

Matt O'Keefe

This was a pretty strong 3 episode run! I always had a soft spot for Dr. Pulaski. She gets off on the wrong foot with Data and Picard but definitely improves over the course of the season. You can tell she has grown fonder of Data by the end of “Unnatural Selection”. “A Matter of Honor” is one of my favorites from Season 2. Riker adapts really well to the Klingon ship and warrior spirit, and turns in an impressive performance. “Measure of a Man” is one of my other favorites from Season 2—looking forward to next week especially.

dc

A Matter of Honor: Mendon (John Putch, playing a Benzite again, last time “Mordock”) speaks to the late Dexter Clay (1956-2017) on the bridge. Clay, who shows up periodically on the bridge as an unnamed officer during the first 2 seasons, gets one of the few times, or perhaps only time, to actually say some dialogue. Brian Thompson (from Buffy!) who plays Klag and who eventually befriends Riker, was in “The Terminator” “Babylon 5” and “The X-Files” and “Alien Nation.” They should have sent Mendon out with an ice scraper to clean the schmutz off the hull. George, in the “The Search for Spock,” the Klingons use “Kellicams” so I imagine “Kilometers” here are just a convenient translation for the audience.

REDR58

That's true. But if you think about it, given the number of world-ending technologies that we've seen and the lack of countermeasures, it's surprising that we don't see them deployed more often, if only by terrorists.

R. Chang

The Schizoid Man: W Morgan Sheppard appeared in LOTS of TV and movies. He also shows up in Babylon 5. Data already knows not to tell people about his “off switch” as he told Crusher in the first season. I suppose Data “trusted” Graves as he was his “grandpa.” Barbara Alyn Woods plays “Kareen Brianon” and she appeared in Playboy in 1993 and in the movies “The Waterdance” (1992) with Helen Hunt and Eric Stoltz and “Striptease” (1996) with Demi Moore. Picard says “Grand” again! I was wrong before about him not saying that again. During the test Troi gave to Data, scenes from The Wrath of Khan appear. Unnatural Selection: Picard says “Grand” again! The USS Lantree is a Miranda-class vessel, similar to Khan’s captured USS Reliant. In reality the Lantree model was the USS Reliant model from Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan in which the “roll bar” structure above and to the rear of the saucer was removed. The Enterpise’s shuttle bay door is simply not high enough to let the Type 7 shuttlecraft exit without barely squeezing through. There is no way the shuttle floats so far up above the shuttle bay deck and doesn’t strike the top of the shuttle bay opening. Grrrr…. There is no “blueprint of human evolution”! There is no plan. It’s just a process. That bothers me more than any of the magic science in this episode.

REDR58

The doctor in the 2nd episode turned 35 a week before, and so did I lol

Broseph Terbias, 8th Level Dudenbrah of the Salty Lemonaders

Cool reaction guys! I don't agree with that only takes one guy to use these discoveries that can escencialy whipe out entire civilizations, i mean we have nukes and there are millions of reactionaries that would love to use thet against these people or another and they don't do so because there are rules and others willing to stop them. Ideologis in the ather hand; those can do much more.

Juanjomaster !

George, Starfleet and other cultures already have biological and non-biological weapons that could wipe out a planet, that they don't use. They don't need more.

Kane Is Able

Please be careful.

Kane Is Able

That "Not engineered, created." line might become retroactively significant, as though Dr. Kingsley were trying to draw a legal distinction.

Data Cable

He's introduced in the Pilot episode.

Kane Is Able

Every Star Trek fan and reaction channel I know of hates when Crusher leaves after season 1. So, you may not like her, but it's dishonest to say she's not memorable. Plus, she left in season 1. We don't know if she'll ever return, so it's hard to compare her to other characters that got more screen time.

Kane Is Able

I will always like Pulaski more than Crusher. Crusher has no personality to me. Pulaski is... grating sometimes, but Crusher is just so forgettable to me. Pulaski also develops, she is not attacking Data anymore for example. Crusher is just Crusher, but I couldn't name a single episode where she is lead.

Thall

Ladies and gentlemen! Chief Miles O'Brien!

Gryff

You might say we have to Man up for that episode!

REDR58

First Officer Klag is indeed who Simone thought he was, Brian Thompson played the Judge from Buffy

A Red Mage Named Blue

LOL the look that Simone gave to camera when George mentions the fusions that could happen with the transporter just said IYKYK with her eyes XD

The Real Andrew Kim

completely off topic, I'd like to politely suggest Muriel's Wedding 1994 as a non-American choice. tho Shanelle Riccio already did it and had to take down her reaction because of copyright.

SnabbKassa

Enterprise sketch tramp stamp! Vote today!

Gryff

As someone who hated Pulaski when this was first airing, i was very disappointed when she didn't die in that episode.

R. Chang

Hmmmm....let's see....Oh that one, the doctor guy....pass.....next, the one where Pulaski is "older"....ugh, pass.....OH! The one with Riker on a Klingon ship. Play!

StonyD

I will refrain from talking about transporter nonsense because I don't want to bring up spoilers but... As far as that sub-atomic species being used as a weapon and changing everything, most likely it would become standard procedure on all Starfleet vessels (and probably those of every affiliated society) to scan for it and they now know to use the neutrino beam or whatever to remove it. So it would rarely if ever be an issue going forward.

SuPaTiLt

And here is when George realizes issues on the holodeck are not the worst. A malfunctioning Data could be a mess to handle.

Light Movies

I've heard of deleted scenes, I've never sought them out, but I've never heard of an extended version existing anywhere. Also, it has to be one that everyone can find so people who prefer using their own copy can watch along.

Kane Is Able

More exciting to see it blown up on screen? Starfleet must be made of money to be able to throw away ships like that.

REDR58

Susie Plakson born “Susan Plaksin.” Doctor Selar will be mentioned again in the series, but that character will never be seen again.

REDR58

I think the production team for the Klingon food in Matter of Honour said they went to a local Asian market to get the food so it tracks

Fedora The Explorar

The premise that genetic experimentation on humans is permitted as depicted in "Unnatural Selection" flies in the face of what is established in a later Star Trek series, which I guess either chose to ignore this episode or forgot that it ever existed. It's certainly seems inconsistent with the distrust of human augmentation that led to the Eugenics Wars mentioned in the episode "Space Seed" from the original Star Trek series.

GAB

In reference to Pulaski, I don't believe they were trying to recreate Bones and more intending to make her opposite of or different than Dr. Crusher.

Kane Is Able

“When I stroke the beard thusly” might be my favourite line in all of Star Trek!!!

Edina Lewis

"Space... Fuck!" -Simone 2025

Kane Is Able

I don't know how long in advance you film, so I'm probably too late for this, but Episode 9 has an extended version that's well worth finding. The additional scenes do improve it, in my opinion.

Joe Stacey

'A Matter of Honor' has always been a favorite of mine. Watching Riker do well among Klingons is always fun to see. "One... or both?" 😂 That was Susie Plakson playing the Vulcan Dr. Selar in 'Schizoid Man'. She'll appear again as a Klingon soon enough and as various other races over the course of different Trek series.

Brandon

The lines that Picard quotes in "The Schizoid Man": "So long as men can breathe or eyes can see, So long lives this, and this gives life to thee." are the final two lines of Sonnet 18 "Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day?" by William Shakespeare. The sentiments of the poem are very appropriate to the episode's theme of facing mortality . It's somewhat a retread of the TOS episode "What Are Little Girls Made Of?"

GAB

Just wanna say I have always enjoyed “A Matter of Honor” because Jonathan Frakes is a charismatic dude and really shines throughout that episode. Also keen for next week and for Mr George to first-time watch one of my all-time favourite episodes to see how it “Measures” up for the good sir. Anyways, I hope you also enjoy the watchalongs everybody 😌🤙🏻

JakeyShakeyBakeyBoy

Watching The Schizoid Man as a kid, I never realized how much of a portrayal of an abusive romantic partner it was. Constantly hurting people while saying he's not violent, classic DARVO in blaming everyone else for his actions. I wish it was a little more clear that Data defeated Graves's consciousness. Because as-is it looks too much like Graves realized the harm he was doing, which is not a great portrayal of an actual abusive partner, especially for their victims who think 'they can change'.

Robert Gendron

I do not understand why they didn't just take the Lantree in tow. I mean, it's still a ship. Take it back to Sol and sterilize it. Also, I don't even want to get into this episode and the wider plot line that the Federation doesn't allow genetic engineering on humanoids. :P

Robert Cooper

It’s not the size of the tattoo it’s how you place it that counts.

MikeBdrx


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