I wouldn't mind that feature, I feel like I'd be more adventurous if my body automatically protected me from self inflicted injury. Wonder if that would protect her from accidentally tripping or stubbing her toe.
Gregory Norris
2020-01-19 23:19:58 +0000 UTC
Maybe there could be a slider setting to it, like if you fail to realize your plans it kicks in at high enough settings.
Daniel Rydberg
2020-01-13 00:24:52 +0000 UTC
This reminds me of a Black Mirror episode. So creepy.
Heather Tennant
2020-01-12 18:41:22 +0000 UTC
I am concerned for Roko.
Clifton Royston
2020-01-11 19:30:16 +0000 UTC
My thought exactly - I think Jeph may be going there. Note the "ghost image" around her body in the last panel...
Brian Leahy
2020-01-11 15:49:07 +0000 UTC
Now that's a reason to get body dissociation if I ever saw one...
Maarten Daalder
2020-01-11 11:08:24 +0000 UTC
At one point, Jeph posted up the original petition for AI to be granted civil rights, which was accepted. Presumably they can vote. There have been a few examples of anti-AI sentiment/casual racism (the teens calling Bubbles a toaster/Momo mentioning a fundamentalist church that calls AI evil). Not sure about the work stuff! Maybe we'll get to find out. :)
Dolan
2020-01-11 07:04:36 +0000 UTC
It never occurred to me that "roko" + "basilisk" is a thing. I figured it Roko's name was just another one of Jeph's eccentric AI names. Now I have to go through and see how many other names in QC hide some kind of Easter egg. :)
2020-01-10 22:51:00 +0000 UTC
Now I'm imagining how boring the end of Sunstone's first arc would have been if OopsieGuard were a real-life thing...
And that's not due to the BDSM part, although come to think of it *most* of Sunstone would have been as interesting as watching paint dry with OopsieGuard - I'm pretty sure that and BDSM wouldn't mix...
Leak
2020-01-10 19:16:19 +0000 UTC
Ever since I googled, "Roko's Basilisk", I have been terrified of this character.
2020-01-10 18:52:49 +0000 UTC
When what is wrong with your body literally leaps out at you. Poor Roko
Randall Norman Pick
2020-01-10 14:41:41 +0000 UTC
This was considered at some length in fiction by Jack Williamson, in "With Folded Hands" and "The Humanoids", almost 75 years ago.
2020-01-10 13:48:19 +0000 UTC
How AI civil rights work in QC, can AI vote do they vote for the same government as humans or there is an AI government. AI can have direct democracy if the want. Is there civil unrest between AI and Humans? Do AI make the same as Humans, is there AI tax for businesses that hire them?
2020-01-10 12:45:29 +0000 UTC
Next 6 strips just Roko RTFM.
Paracog Steadham
2020-01-10 12:09:33 +0000 UTC
Oh man. Poor Roko. The whole "can't control own body" is bad enough but coupled with body dissociation thing..., I see a bad times for Roko. I hope Yay "Spookybot" can help her.
Gerry
2020-01-10 10:01:08 +0000 UTC
I'd think that would make sense from a capitalistic perspective. You earn more money from replacing a part yearly than building a part that lasts: it's UNplanned obsolescence.
Prognostic Hannya
2020-01-10 09:28:39 +0000 UTC
I hadn’t thought of things from this angle, but it’s interesting! Thanks for sharing!
Chris Olstrom
2020-01-10 08:51:06 +0000 UTC
Hmm - i had a thought. Do we know yet that it DOESN'T have an off switch or override? Maybe she just hasn't looked for it yet, because she didn't yet know about this 'feature?' (After all - who REALLY reads all the way through the manual, once you get it started and working? Not like we all look into all the things about how OUR bodies work, amahraht? LOL)
Kerin Schiesser
2020-01-10 08:34:00 +0000 UTC
I was thinking on this and I'm going to play devil's avocado here - I think this tech does serve a purpose.
AIs cannot heal. Its something thats easily forgotten given how relatable their personalities are in this comic. Small things from tiny cuts and scrapes which our bodies would heal from remain permanent damage on an AI until physically repaired. There's also the risk of replacement parts being rejected as well, much like transplant patients. Roko is a more extreme example of this, given her dysphoria but you can see it happen on a smaller scale too. Maybe firmwares are incompatible, connectors no longer available, etc. And there's cost of repairs and replacements too.
Ultimately, the user does need the option to turn OopsieGuard off or override it but I can see how would be beneficial too.
Thomas Boys
2020-01-10 08:29:11 +0000 UTC
Not a fan of it, eh?
Thomas Boys
2020-01-10 08:19:14 +0000 UTC
I understand and feel sympathy toward your situation. The sad truth of it is, however, that many of us do not have the privilege to get to know public servants who are clearly working to do the best they can. I *know* you all exist, and I have been honored to get to know a few of you. But I'm a person who talks to those who are different, and seeks to find and understand as much as I feasibly can about those differences, and even I have only met a very few. I know others who have interacted with those few, and some of them were too caught up in their worlds to see.
But those of us who do see thank you from the bottom of our hearts, and wish that there were more like you. This world is much darker than it should be, but would be far more dark without you.
Some Ed
2020-01-10 08:14:55 +0000 UTC
Firmware, so maybe not easily.
Mark
2020-01-10 07:07:07 +0000 UTC
This made me laugh so hard
Matthew Bernal
2020-01-10 07:02:48 +0000 UTC
I think one of the many reasons Jeph is so incredible, is that they are able to keep this comic interesting a THOUSAND YEARS after your favorite will-they-won't-they got resolved. Like I am going to be walking around all weekend wondering exactly what Spookybot is going to think about this.
pseudoclever
2020-01-10 06:15:36 +0000 UTC
This is a very clever thing you observed.
pseudoclever
2020-01-10 06:12:37 +0000 UTC
This page hit me like a freight train. Suddenly all her dysphoria and discomfort with her own body seem completely rational and that is terrifying.
Ellorgast
2020-01-10 05:40:03 +0000 UTC
I hope that's a configurable setting. :-P
Mooster
2020-01-10 05:36:03 +0000 UTC
Long time reader, first time commenter...
I love the amount compassion and concern everyone here is showing for both Roko and May.
You all give me hope that when A.I. does finally emerge (or reveals itself if it’s already here), we’ll be treating it like we should.
I’m really hoping that Jeph is a prophet and this is the not too distant future.
That is all, carry on.
William Karr
2020-01-10 05:16:17 +0000 UTC
Clearly she needs the law enforcement firmware set. Choosing to damage oneself in the performance of one's duties is a key feature of any chassis that's law enforcement rated.
I just hope she can still get it, since it's important to her mental health after bonding with her former body so much.
Darla Donahue
2020-01-10 02:29:44 +0000 UTC
wonder if she owns the rights to her body and her firmware/middleware. her body could be like a John Deere tractor - you buy it, but if you have any service done or make any changes outside of JD repair facilities, the warranty is voided. hopefully, the courts are eventually going to kill that nonsense IRL, but wonder if similar idiocy is in play here??
Joe
2020-01-10 01:37:19 +0000 UTC
I mean, moving around would activate it if it were the case
Tachpmg
2020-01-09 23:23:22 +0000 UTC
I've got two broken toes that never healed right. While frustrating, kinda wish I'd had that pop up.
Jim Feldman
2020-01-09 23:21:07 +0000 UTC
I mean, I kind of wish i DID have a subroutine that would keep me from doing random, self-damaging things by accident, or in a fit of pique. But I would SURE AS HELL want the power to TURN IT THE HELL OFF when I decided that it was necessary.... so there, nanny-state! (LOL)
Kerin Schiesser
2020-01-09 22:20:21 +0000 UTC
um... wellllll. On the UP side, she hasn't hurt her hand. On the DOWN side, she may need to see a certain robot body mod shop anyway, to see how to reset certain free-will-limiting settings in her chassis...
Kerin Schiesser
2020-01-09 22:18:49 +0000 UTC
that message reminds me of the "oopsie woopsie!! uwu we made a fucky wucky!! a wittle fucko boingo!" tweet, lmao. what a twist tho
Norah Porter
2020-01-09 21:30:22 +0000 UTC
oh nooooooo :'(
Boter Bug
2020-01-09 21:11:14 +0000 UTC
Oh. This. I do not like this. I do NOT like this. I DO not like this. I do not like THIS. I do not LIKE this.
Any word can be stressed. All should be, really.
Boter Bug
2020-01-09 21:11:04 +0000 UTC
Gotta wonder if this would also kick in if she were trying to defend herself from someone.
Dan Curtis
2020-01-09 18:48:40 +0000 UTC
“OVERRIDE OOPSIEGUARD, YOU M-RF-R!” Just like Transformers.
Sleepy John
2020-01-09 18:10:30 +0000 UTC
I uh... I would definitely want something like this for myself tbh 🙃 I have zero self preservation instincts, if I didn't have to concentrate so hard on not hurting myself all the time id be so much happier
Nascha Morrison
2020-01-09 18:00:39 +0000 UTC
Dang, I hadn't thought about the body dysmorphia thing!
Bryce Maryott
2020-01-09 17:55:12 +0000 UTC
That's creepy beyond words and I'd disable that immediately!
Bryce Maryott
2020-01-09 17:27:41 +0000 UTC
Oh that is just wrong
2020-01-09 17:09:31 +0000 UTC
That would officially elevate Roko to Hero-tier, so I second this hope.
That said, this strip makes me worry how often May would see these OopsieGuard(tm) messages
2020-01-09 15:34:06 +0000 UTC
I wonder if Roko and May are going to end up in a body swap. Roko can better afford the upkeep on a lemon of a body, or can afford to give it to May whilst purchasing something else for herself.
Phil Kelly
2020-01-09 15:23:49 +0000 UTC
dissociative episode in 3,2,1...
poor roko
Jeff Gedney
2020-01-09 15:17:58 +0000 UTC
I wonder if it would have gone off if she's actually gotten hold of her potato peeler....
2020-01-09 15:09:23 +0000 UTC
Wouldn't need anything so dramatic. Just a subroutine that runs below the level of her consciousness, checking each action as it happens to see if it's likely to result in bodily damage.
Ack
2020-01-09 15:03:03 +0000 UTC
Well, this is definitely not where I thought we would be at the end of the week.
Everett Bradshaw
2020-01-09 14:35:29 +0000 UTC
Wait so presumably it needs some kind of intelligence to detect that she is about to be injured... so does the body have a second AI in it, silently monitoring and able to take control!?
Amazing Stace
2020-01-09 14:28:50 +0000 UTC
hey uh..... hey jeph? wth
blookwitch
2020-01-09 14:00:47 +0000 UTC
So.... what happens if this kicks in and prevents an AI from acting in self defense?
Nancie
2020-01-09 13:34:00 +0000 UTC
I like the professionalism that ends with a “:-)”
Daniel Rydberg
2020-01-09 13:12:10 +0000 UTC
*or* removing this feature will become a market for places like Union Robotics
Jan Gampe
2020-01-09 12:07:01 +0000 UTC
Long term view: if this becomes a widespread feature of APC bodies, places like Union Robotics will be going out of business faster due to lack of damage...
Joseph Houk
2020-01-09 11:50:01 +0000 UTC
Well, THAT'S a little dystopian...
2020-01-09 11:13:21 +0000 UTC
You don't have to read it if you don't want to, you know. I think it's weird to get grumbly at an author for telling a different story from the one you imagined.
Stephen Wells
2020-01-09 10:56:10 +0000 UTC
"Hello, Crushbot? It's Roko here. Listen, I think we can come to an arrangement..."
Stephen Wells
2020-01-09 10:52:53 +0000 UTC
The same is true of us, btw. Your consciousness is always a fraction of a second behind the times because of all the filtering and modulation our brains do before stuff gets presented to management.
Stephen Wells
2020-01-09 10:51:01 +0000 UTC
That would make me even more angry.
lilibat
2020-01-09 10:45:30 +0000 UTC
Yay should definitely be able to nuke that "feature", I doubt their aversion to AI tinkering extends to screwed up body firmware... but it may be too late in terms of Roko being able to like / trust this body. It's almost literally a prison, restricting her actions and altering her perceptions.
Kind of curious though... she looked up the care instructions for the butt emblem, but I guess she never did read the full user manual? Or maybe it just wasn't clear that the "self protection" feature was this patronizing and extreme, and she thought it was just a normal mechanism for providing feedback when approaching physical limits.
I guess this will tie in with the storyline about May's body and the idea of setting up loans for AIs to get the body they want. I'm not sure how that will turn out, but I kinda hope it involves Sven becoming a fighter pilot... if you know what I mean :P
Somebody Else
2020-01-09 09:19:17 +0000 UTC
Btw, it's a bit sad that all of Jeph's examples of public servants turn out to be a bag of dicks. A lot of us are working hard to do the best we can in trying circumstances.
David Durant
2020-01-09 09:18:47 +0000 UTC
Given her ongoing dysmorphia I wonder if the next step is for Roko to give her current body to May and become disembodied (where she can have any body she likes) until she can find a copy of her original one.
David Durant
2020-01-09 09:17:21 +0000 UTC
There is also a possibility that this window is just Roko's hallucination. What if she'll read the manual, or even ask Yay to disable this feature, only for them to reply "There is no such feature in your body"? Just as when she was ready to peel her face because "it wasn't her real face", how can we be sure it's not just another manifestation of her body dysphoria?
Evgeniy Semyonov
2020-01-09 08:33:45 +0000 UTC
On the other (non wall-punching) hand, Roko has just been spared an expensive and inconvenient repair bill.
Dean Reilly
2020-01-09 08:30:45 +0000 UTC
Roko is about to apply the maxim "don't get mad get evin"
SpookyPenguin
2020-01-09 08:28:26 +0000 UTC
Oh crap, there is a panic atack coming, I hope she doesn't have to go through it alone
Tachpmg
2020-01-09 08:02:09 +0000 UTC
That got dark quick. AI are such a huge part of this universe, feel free to correct me but understanding the story so far, the AI's bodies are as close to personal and a part of them as ours are for us. She must feel so horrified at the control on such an invasive and deep level. That's my take at least. Not to mention, this could damn well be a contributing factor to what her disconnection with her body has been, everything being filtered somehow. Like you're always drugged somehow, or something? Hell, not even SB is willing to do that to another AI. Oof. We'll find out next comic lol~
2020-01-09 06:56:58 +0000 UTC
Did not see that coming, holy crap
2020-01-09 06:49:38 +0000 UTC
So all Roko's actions and senses(?) are being filtered by *something* between brain and body. That something must at least be using her senses to know the wall was there.
Pete
2020-01-09 06:45:37 +0000 UTC
Great flipping Cthulhu, this storyline has gotten dark quickly.
Yonatan Zunger
2020-01-09 06:44:52 +0000 UTC
I currently do punch things out of anger. I wish I had that program installed.
Nicolas Dao-Phan
2020-01-09 06:42:00 +0000 UTC
Oh my. That can't be good for someone with body dismorphia. Good thing she discovered this when she tried attacking a wall. It can't strike back. It might be a good thing she isn't a cop anymore. What could happen if she got this message while trying to fight someone?
TheSnarkOfTheNorth
2020-01-09 06:11:15 +0000 UTC
The town isn't that big, so she's probably close to Union Robotics!
Grace Kieser
2020-01-09 05:58:22 +0000 UTC
I'm just imagining the Windows 10 "THIS IS NOT A RECOGNIZED PROGRAM" screen appearing every time you try to put on a piece of clothing. Hope that Roko's close to somewhere before this breakdown...
Mitchel Huffa
2020-01-09 05:53:42 +0000 UTC
Once upon a time, I imagined this arc resolving with Roko buying the cheaper Philomena model she'd considered for herself, and letting May have the cast-off (possibly with some recoloring to ease confusion.)
With this... I don't think May deserves the hell that this body must be. I think I'm now hoping for a manufacturer refund because OMG this is such a design flaw. I'm starting to wonder if all of the issues are due to design flaws rather than just simply not the input that Roko was expecting.
Some Ed
2020-01-09 05:18:35 +0000 UTC
Always read the manual
Damien
2020-01-09 05:16:40 +0000 UTC
...I really want to read that user manual.
Brian English
2020-01-09 05:05:11 +0000 UTC
SO GREAT! I wish my real body had that setting.
Tom wilson
2020-01-09 05:04:16 +0000 UTC
Dang, someone actually beat me to it. I didn't expect that!
Ian Wolfe
2020-01-09 04:37:42 +0000 UTC
Talk about invasive software OwO
Sandrock
2020-01-09 04:30:05 +0000 UTC
Menu-sama.. is that you?
RobertC
2020-01-09 04:26:06 +0000 UTC
Fuck the third law, 'mIright?
Bagge
2020-01-09 04:24:38 +0000 UTC
Clippy: "It looks like you are trying to lash out in anger..."
Bagge
2020-01-09 04:22:02 +0000 UTC
Cue the relapse
Kinda Squirrely
2020-01-09 04:10:39 +0000 UTC
RTFM
Chris Heg
2020-01-09 04:07:13 +0000 UTC
petition to name this arc "Roko's Terrible No Good Very Bad Day"
Waffliesinyoface
2020-01-09 03:50:46 +0000 UTC
“Roko Basilisk, you are fined one credit for a violation of the verbal moralities statue.”
Andrew
2020-01-09 03:46:30 +0000 UTC
Maybe she should give this body to Grumpy and get herself an older model she can relate to better.
Verteiron
2020-01-09 03:40:17 +0000 UTC
Philomena dysphoria?
BobC
2020-01-09 03:39:41 +0000 UTC
Oof. This is a very bad day for Roko.
EnterTheHero
2020-01-09 03:38:35 +0000 UTC
Omg that poor girl... That has got to be MAJORLY disassociating.
Forgettable
2020-01-09 03:26:41 +0000 UTC
OK, now I have TWO nightly comics with RED PANELS that I have to watch out for :D
Buck Caldwell
2020-01-09 03:25:18 +0000 UTC
I bet May doesn't have OopsieGuard(tm)
ysth
2020-01-09 03:24:40 +0000 UTC
She is..... OUTSIDE! We've not really seen the outside.
Chris Gallaty
2020-01-09 03:24:32 +0000 UTC
Never mind, just noticed that the whole panel (aside from the "helpful" text window) went blurry.
Granite
2020-01-09 03:17:00 +0000 UTC
she is already dealing with Dysphoria and Defeat... and now this... I wanna give Roko a hug so bad.
2020-01-09 03:16:59 +0000 UTC
Oh man that would make me shook
Kyle Major
2020-01-09 03:16:51 +0000 UTC
I wonder if the fuzzy Roko outline in the last panel is representative of her emotionally "nope"-ing right out of that body.
Granite
2020-01-09 03:14:21 +0000 UTC
Their name is Yaaaaaay Newfriend, thank you very much.
2020-01-09 03:14:10 +0000 UTC
"You appear to be attempting to disable OopsieGuard(tm)! This may allow damage to your new Philomena Model G. In order to proceed, you must first change your FreeWill(tm) settings from moderate to high. Would you like to proceed?"
"You appear to be attempting change your FreeWill(tm) settings from moderate to high! This may allow damage to your new Philomena Model G. In order to proceed, you must first disable OopsieGuard(tm). Would you like to proceed?"
Nash Wolfe
2020-01-09 03:13:42 +0000 UTC
I see it more as Roko projecting her own body problems onto May. Living Vicariously through May and such.
Plus it's all tied up in her journey of penance for her time as a police officer. Her need to do the good that she once thought she was doing through her police work. She's got a whole lot of her own personal issues tangled up in May's case basically.
Mitchell Sealy
2020-01-09 03:11:25 +0000 UTC
OH NO
Dylan T
2020-01-09 03:11:10 +0000 UTC
Good pickup. This must be 'the city'.
Andrew Mitchell
2020-01-09 03:10:58 +0000 UTC
So ... be the bureaucrat from the previous strip?
Peter Jensen
2020-01-09 03:08:53 +0000 UTC
Reminds me of the safeguards built into AI in Freefall. Although those are specifically designed to kick in to prevent harm to humans, which may actually cause harm to the robots.
Thisguy
2020-01-09 03:07:41 +0000 UTC
Oh well THAT'S definitely not gonna severely aggrevate her dysphoria
Especially if that's not something that can be turned off
Fart Captor
2020-01-09 03:06:26 +0000 UTC
What the fuuuuuck I changed my mind I don't wanna be a cyborg anymore gimme the GRB.
2020-01-09 03:04:58 +0000 UTC
And now the enemy within 😬
Magic Chopstick Games
2020-01-09 03:04:24 +0000 UTC
"I can see you're trying to murder this wall. Would you like some assistance with that?"
MikeT
2020-01-09 03:04:04 +0000 UTC
Time to jailbreak a motherfucker.
Josh
2020-01-09 03:03:48 +0000 UTC
Today's strip reminds me that this entire arc started because May was derisive of Roko having a difficult time adjusting to her new body, and instead of getting angry Roko seized upon May's situation as a new project to zealously pursue. While I'm sure Roko is genuinely interested in helping May, I wonder how much of her passion stems from wanting to focus wholly on someone else's problems instead of wanting to deal with her own.
Charlotte Grubbs
2020-01-09 03:03:39 +0000 UTC
well, that's rather a terrifying little 'safety feature.'
Charles Fitt
2020-01-09 03:03:03 +0000 UTC
I'm reasonably certain that Spooksalot can override this 'feature' for her.
jeff fearnow
2020-01-09 03:02:39 +0000 UTC
Note the displacement of the image in panel 6. We've seen that when her dysphoria kicks in.
Michael Boettger
2020-01-09 03:00:48 +0000 UTC
That is simultaneously scary and hilarious.
All it needs is "if you throttle a bitch, you're going to get in serious trouble. IF you want to throttle this bitch, this is how you do it to get the greatest satisfiaction. Do you want to throttle a bitch, Y/N?"
z
2020-01-09 03:00:40 +0000 UTC
As someone who's had to disable the ISP porn filter, I imagine her phonecall to the manufacturer will be hillarious.
Spoogle McGee
2020-01-09 03:00:32 +0000 UTC
Jeez. This story is dragging now. Even the Faybles arc came to fruition faster than this. 😑
2020-01-09 02:59:59 +0000 UTC
Someone needs to void their warranty
drij
2020-01-09 02:59:30 +0000 UTC
Holy crud...
Joseph Bonnar
2020-01-09 02:59:19 +0000 UTC
Considering the number of people who think disabled folks or those with mental illness shouldn't have bodily autonomy "for their own good"? Yep, absolutely.
Charlotte Grubbs
2020-01-09 02:59:18 +0000 UTC
The implications of this are absolutely terrifying
2020-01-09 02:57:56 +0000 UTC
Also, I wonder where this is taking place? That skyline doesn't look like Northampton., does it?
Michael Boettger
2020-01-09 02:57:33 +0000 UTC
This can only go well
Cody Renton
2020-01-09 02:56:58 +0000 UTC
I think they respect autonomy too much for that
Cody Renton
2020-01-09 02:56:38 +0000 UTC
It's clippy in modern day!
James Cooper
2020-01-09 02:56:37 +0000 UTC
I need that feature because I'm fragile, but she's gonna lose it...
Erin Moriarty
2020-01-09 02:56:17 +0000 UTC
This may be one of the most upsetting ideas I've ever seen.
2020-01-09 02:56:17 +0000 UTC
Is this a spooky bot prank?
SpazzyC
2020-01-09 02:55:57 +0000 UTC
No kidding! In theory, this software would prevent her from doing anything even remotely dangerous. Live a life in the median, bereft of excitement and thrills.
Michael Boettger
2020-01-09 02:55:32 +0000 UTC
Oh christ an ep
R L
2020-01-09 02:54:57 +0000 UTC
That is truly horrifying. Bodily autonomy has to be the most important right in the world to an embodied AI.
Errol Lobo
2020-01-09 02:54:45 +0000 UTC
Oh dear God... The worst thing is I can 100% see this as being a thing someone actually made.
Erinnyes
2020-01-09 02:54:43 +0000 UTC
*flashbacks to doing anything on Windows Vista*
Joel Bateman
2020-01-09 02:54:36 +0000 UTC
Well that's unsettling.
Mitchell Sealy
2020-01-09 02:54:26 +0000 UTC
Oh that's definitely going to help Roko feel better about her new body =/