Is the Patreon video player rubbish?
Added 2025-01-25 16:32:26 +0000 UTCIt seems that there isn't much love for the Patreon video player. The only way to find out for sure though was to post a video using it and see how well it was received.
So I've just done that and I'd appreciate your feedback on this survey.
Comments
Just to add my two cents, I was impressed with your return to form and humor. I enjoy the asides in your videos. I am very happy that you are feeling better and I hope the liver testing reveals another non-issue like the other tests. All the best.
Dan Weiss
2025-05-07 22:24:11 +0000 UTCI look straight for the YouTube link to stream it to my tv
Nicolas B
2025-02-08 12:11:56 +0000 UTCThis is the first time using the Patreon player. Works fine on my 27in external monitor on my MacBook Pro.
Mark Grigoleit
2025-02-03 13:41:43 +0000 UTCThat’s one of the things that would benefit from a bit of extra shooting space.
Techmoan
2025-02-02 10:18:02 +0000 UTCIn addition to my earlier comment i don't actually care that much about the video player as I'm sure i can work around that, I'm more concerned that there hasn't been a Sharp GF-777 video yet.
Martipar
2025-02-02 06:40:36 +0000 UTCI never put adverts on the Patreon updates as they’re just for Patrons who have already been more than generous. If I did put adverts in though I expect the total revenue from the average update video would net less than £2 in total.
Techmoan
2025-01-29 11:59:25 +0000 UTCProblem with the patreon player is not able to share the video also cannot gain you revenue from adds or likes.
maximus7001
2025-01-29 11:41:27 +0000 UTCI found that I couldn't watch the Patreon video in landscape mode on my phone. The audio worked and I could see the controls, but I just had a black screen. My phone is probably a bit crappy, so it doesn't necessarily mean much, but I thought I'd mention it...
Martin Davidson
2025-01-29 07:20:14 +0000 UTCPatreon video works fine on both my laptop and my phone via GrayJay. I'll probably still use YouTube as Patreon doesn't give any options to change the quality of the video, and as I'm currently reliant on a 4G connection with limited data per month, I watch most videos at 360p or less if I can get away with it.
OzRetrocomp
2025-01-28 08:24:17 +0000 UTCI always switch to YouTube through it to be able to give you a like on the video.
Timothy Roller
2025-01-28 04:48:16 +0000 UTCEmbedded works fine on my laptop but I wacth your videos on my TV with it's higher definition and larger screen and it's connected to some hi-fi bookshelf speakers. I bought these for my first hi-fi based on your budget hi-fi series, before that video series I figured a proper hi-fi was something i'd need to spend mid-range gaming PC money on but I managed it for around £100, for that i am eternally grateful. My current speakers are Sony SS-A607 speakers and my old ones, connected to my TV, are Sony SS-H150, I coudn't bear to sell them so i bought a Douk Audio M100 (not the best amplifier but 99% of the time it's for voice and video gaming rather than just music so it's excellent for that) it does do bluetooth so I could send the audio from my laptop to them but I prefer to sit back and relax watching you on my TV rather than on my laptop.
Martipar
2025-01-28 01:58:32 +0000 UTCFor the past however many years if I airplay from embedded YouTube from the Patreon app the quality is terrible. I always have to open in the web browser then the app and then the quality of AirPlay massively improves. The Patreon player however is top quality via AirPlay every time without fail.
Tim Hugall
2025-01-27 21:28:38 +0000 UTCF YouTube. Embedded works for me!
Don J
2025-01-27 13:00:40 +0000 UTCI don't have a way to watch Patreon videos on my TV, so I prefer YouTube for 4k stuff.
Bruce Grembowski
2025-01-27 03:02:33 +0000 UTCI don't use YouTube via their player, only via NewPipe, so the Patreon player is a big win for me, plus I like that it keeps playing when I leave the page it's on, and minimises. That's on an Android tablet, mind.
Daniel Probert
2025-01-26 22:13:56 +0000 UTCI use a PC so the watching experience doesn't change much. However, on YouTube, I've got other perks, such as watching history, suggestions for other videos, etc.
Helio Gomes
2025-01-26 20:47:43 +0000 UTCCan I choose Option 3? "I prefer YouTube, because that's where I do most of my video watching. But if you choose to switch to Patreon's viewer, I'll still watch."
Andy Ihnatko
2025-01-26 20:21:59 +0000 UTCAllows full screen playback on iPad OS so gets a vote over the embedded YouTube links for me :)
Dan Tombs
2025-01-26 18:15:29 +0000 UTCWorks for me on the Laptop or tablet... downside: Can't binge watch Techmoan on my TV. But for Patreon-only videos it should be fine, as long as the (normal) videos still appear on YT later.
Christian Giudici
2025-01-26 17:22:39 +0000 UTCNot fussed, it works but YouTube is more flexible as I can change device mid video
Russell Cox
2025-01-26 17:10:10 +0000 UTCI'm fine with it because I can watch it on my large-ish tablet. Still prefer Youtube though because I usually queue up videos on my watch later play list and just play that on any device.
Joar
2025-01-26 16:21:34 +0000 UTCYay! THANK YOU for bringing the youttube link back! Gonna watch your video again. Casting it from my phone last night was, shall we say, less than ideal 😝
Renn
2025-01-26 16:03:44 +0000 UTCI have a few Chrome extensions that are very useful for playing YouTube videos, so I never use the Patreon version here.
Gadgetonomy
2025-01-26 15:20:55 +0000 UTCFine either way, but the YT player is a bit more flexible. I only watch via my PC
LG
2025-01-26 15:02:14 +0000 UTCI prefer youtube as my main channel for viewing creator content. I rarely use the embeded video player on my own publications. I want Youtube to have the play statistics. Just as I try to avoid posting videos directly on Facebook and Instagram too.
Anders Enger Jensen
2025-01-26 14:54:02 +0000 UTCNeither of your options really. I prefer YouTube as I have much more functionality, so I would be disappointed if you moved all Patreon stuff to this player but, I'm totally fine with the odd video being on this player.
Dungeoneer
2025-01-26 14:29:51 +0000 UTCThe only issue with the embedded YouTube is you can’t watch it in full screen through Patreon, you have to open it in the app separately. Which is annoying but hardly a dealbreaker, mostly as every other creator I follow does the same. Makes sense from your end over uploading the thing twice
Sam Parsons
2025-01-26 14:29:22 +0000 UTCThe Patreon player doesn't generate closed captions but other than that, it makes no difference to me
Jac Goudsmit
2025-01-26 14:01:16 +0000 UTCIt is. On android, o started playing the video in Patreon app, there was a cast button top right which sends it to my Google Chromecast.
SheddyIan
2025-01-26 12:26:49 +0000 UTCI use AirPlay to put it in the TV, I assume Android has something similar.
Gormond
2025-01-26 12:11:16 +0000 UTCI have no issues with it, I just use AirPlay to put it on the TV.
Gormond
2025-01-26 12:09:59 +0000 UTCI prefer you on the big telly mat!
gordon will
2025-01-26 12:09:17 +0000 UTCI've never used the Patreon video player
Ellis Garbutt
2025-01-26 12:03:08 +0000 UTCI strongly prefer the Youtube videos but I can live with the Patreon website. I am not using the Patreon App at all, I can't mentally afford to have a dedicated app for every one of my life activities.
Davide
2025-01-26 12:02:02 +0000 UTCI've probably only ever watched it this one time. I generally just open your vids through YouTube where possible. But it's nothing worth complaining about.
Sparky Kelly
2025-01-26 11:31:00 +0000 UTCI‘d really like to view videos on YT on my TV, I think that isn‘t possible with Patreon videos, is it?
Jörg Schötz
2025-01-26 11:18:27 +0000 UTCAction Retro switched to using Patreon’s video player and while I’ve watched a few videos I’ve given up on watching those and now just watch the videos on YouTube when they’re released there instead. Four main problems for me: 1. I’ve had the patreon app crash on me while watching videos using AirPlay 2. I often queue up multiple videos using YouTube and using AirPlay for one video on Patreon means I can’t do that 3. AirPlay isn’t an option in pretty much any hotel room 4. I can’t easily download the video to watch while on a plane/other location without internet access.
Patrick Quinn-Graham
2025-01-26 10:55:50 +0000 UTCI mean this is totally unique to me probably, but it doesn't do full screen correctly on the front screen of my Moto Razr 2024, so I can't hang the phone off the front of the treadmill and watch Techmoan updates as easily. How could be be so thoughtless!
Michael Jordan
2025-01-26 10:45:30 +0000 UTCWorks fine for me!
Roland Bogush
2025-01-26 10:26:02 +0000 UTCYep, it's fine, watch it on my pc, haven't got time for YT on telly, apps, mobiles etc. You just click play. Telly takes about 2 minutes to get booted, load the YT app, find the post etc. Life's too short to fannyon.
Andrew Franks
2025-01-26 08:30:10 +0000 UTCMy impression is that AirPlay of “Patreon video” depends on the codec chosen for upload. YouTube basically always does an AirPlay compatible re-encode, but AFAICT Patreon don’t do so, at least if the original upload codec wasn’t compatible. My general opinion is more subtle than your poll: for longer videos (say over 10 minutes) I do prefer it is YouTube as the player has more options. For short videos I’m probably watching directly on a tablet anyway I don’t mind the Patreon player if you want to use it (I don’t particularly like it though). Ewen
Ewen McNeill
2025-01-26 04:07:45 +0000 UTCI was able to cast to my TV from the Patreon app on my phone with no issues.
Chris
2025-01-26 03:34:34 +0000 UTCI never had a problem with it 🤷🏻♂️
Justin
2025-01-26 03:17:50 +0000 UTCI use a laptop or tv to watch 99% of videos-- I prefer the youtube player for more options with playback and you can alter speed, see snapshots on the status bar, etc. I do not use a phone or an app for Patreon, and prefer when the Patreon video makers provide youtube links.
SD
2025-01-26 02:57:02 +0000 UTCI'm sort of in the middle. I prefer the screen sizing options of YT and with the Patreon window you get the default or full screen. So my vote is: Meh
Bob Holt
2025-01-26 02:00:23 +0000 UTCI had the same thing. Turning notifications for the Patreon app off and then on again solved it. But very annoying.
David Peaker
2025-01-26 00:40:13 +0000 UTCThe loss of being able to stream to a larger screen is a problem
Jeff Paterson
2025-01-26 00:38:25 +0000 UTCI can't stand watching things on a tiny phone screen, so I'll never watch a video in the patron player. Even if I wanted to, I'll never *remember* to because I can't put patreon videos on my watch later
Emily Christ
2025-01-26 00:32:34 +0000 UTCAs I wrote in the other thread, the Patreon player is fine for me, I watch either on tablet or on the big screen that happens to be my second PC monitor. Remote controlled with a Rii mini keyboard.
CheeseParis
2025-01-26 00:06:56 +0000 UTCI’m ok with it. It can be a bit of a pain in the arse and plays up a bit sometimes. But if it does, then I click the link to go directly to YouTube. It’s the message side of Patreon I have issues with, but sadly that can’t be helped. Alls ok mate. Lee
Lee Coles
2025-01-26 00:01:15 +0000 UTCAs a player on the desktop it's perfectly fine. However I prefer Youtube because it works on the TV without screen casting.
Nathan Hand
2025-01-26 00:01:08 +0000 UTCMine does not have a cast button 😞 - I would probably need to go through the Patreon website instead of the app. https://ibb.co/nMR1tqS
Grace Robbins
2025-01-25 23:48:31 +0000 UTCI cast it to my TV via AirPlay and it was fine. I think the picture may look a little softer than YouTube, but it’s more than adequate for this type of video.
Brad Hood
2025-01-25 23:11:05 +0000 UTCIt worked fine but I prefer to watch it on Youtube because I can watch it on the TV instead of a computer.
Andrew
2025-01-25 22:53:13 +0000 UTCWhen will this vote move to our Techmoan senate?
Mels Van Wees
2025-01-25 22:49:21 +0000 UTCI dont hate it, but it's either too small or too big (fullscreen) for my taste, whereas YouTube theater mode seems to be a good size for me. But I wouldn't say "Please never use it again", as I understand why you would like to use the Patreon only videos.
Johnny Cats
2025-01-25 22:47:51 +0000 UTCPlayer works OK. I see it works with Apples AirPlay but does not see my chromecasts? What am I doing wrong?
Tore Børseth Bjørnsen
2025-01-25 22:44:37 +0000 UTCI watch on YouTube also and had to cast to the TV which gave me lag.
GraphicsMonkey
2025-01-25 22:38:40 +0000 UTCThe player is fine but I can only watch it on my phone, I prefer YouTube so I can watch on a big screen
RobotOnline
2025-01-25 22:33:18 +0000 UTCOnly problem is I watch YouTube on my TV, because I don't watch television. Patreon on Android doesn't like Firestick
Jamie Mc
2025-01-25 22:32:13 +0000 UTCAfter pressing play on the video in the Patreon app, a cast button appears at the top of the video. I pressed it and selected my Shield TV (which is Chromecast compatible) and it started playing there
Tim Boobyer
2025-01-25 22:25:52 +0000 UTCThe patreon player won't easily broadcast to my Roku, it only sees Google TV. The YouTube player will stream to anything.
Scott Burningham
2025-01-25 22:24:36 +0000 UTCOn my phone it allowed me to increase the quality from the low-res default.
Grace Robbins
2025-01-25 22:13:56 +0000 UTCI've experienced an odd after-effect of watching the video on my phone - even after closing the Patreon app the video still shows up and doesn't let me swipe out of it. Strange. https://ibb.co/RH6DVkz
Grace Robbins
2025-01-25 22:12:36 +0000 UTCHow did you manage this?
Explosive Action
2025-01-25 22:11:35 +0000 UTCIt works fine but the inability to cast can prove annoying for those that watch videos on the TV
Explosive Action
2025-01-25 22:10:57 +0000 UTCYT much easier to stream over chromecast so I wouldn’t enjoy trying to watch early videos on it but the patreon viewer is fine for videos like the garden office intro.
Peter Curd
2025-01-25 22:01:10 +0000 UTCWorked perfectly fine for me with the Patreon app on iPad casting it to my Apple TV via AirPlay.
Cornfed
2025-01-25 21:52:31 +0000 UTC"Patreon hasn’t admitted any wrongdoing but agreed to pay $7.25 million to resolve the VPPA class action lawsuit. Under the terms of the Patreon settlement, class members can receive a pro rata portion of the settlement fund. Based on claims rates in similar cases, eligible class members may receive $35-$175 each. However, exact payments may vary depending on class member participation rates and other factors. The final approval hearing for the Patreon settlement is scheduled for Feb. 5, 2025. To receive settlement benefits, class members must submit a valid claim form by Jan. 1, 2025."
Alec
2025-01-25 21:47:55 +0000 UTCQuality seems lower than YT, also controls are lacking and you can't use it on TV and similar devices.
Łukasz Fidosz
2025-01-25 21:45:03 +0000 UTCThe quality seems to be a little bit lower compared to Youtube, but I'm completely fine with it.
Alois
2025-01-25 21:39:58 +0000 UTCI watched it in full screen on a 12” iPad Pro. Paused it once while I grabbed some cookies with no issue. I didn’t scroll or mess around with anything else. There were no issues with the video player that I had. Having it on a device instead of the Apple TV was a change of habit, but not significant.
Patrick Joseph
2025-01-25 21:30:59 +0000 UTCThe frame rate seems a little lower than what I get through YouTube, but otherwise it's fine.
VWestlife
2025-01-25 21:23:16 +0000 UTCPersonally prefer YT
Robert B
2025-01-25 21:22:26 +0000 UTCI got it to cast to my tv fine, so doesn't really make much difference to me
Tim Boobyer
2025-01-25 21:21:13 +0000 UTCSince I watch videos on my TV via YT. I prefer when it is posted unlisted in YT because I can start it on my phone, then watch it on my TV via my watch history
DrummerGeek
2025-01-25 21:14:09 +0000 UTCIt's better than it used to be. On desktop PC, it still presents the video in a portrait orientation. Youtube is hands-down more user-friendly.
Jason Wellband
2025-01-25 21:12:11 +0000 UTCThanks for trying this out! I found that the auto-generated captions were almost perfect*, much better than Youtube's. Is it too much work to post both? The Patreon video player works better in the app, the embedded Youtube video player always has issues (at least on my phone). *except for the 10 seconds when it thought you were speaking Gaelic
Dr. Bjoern Bieber
2025-01-25 21:08:05 +0000 UTCThe Patreon video player sucks a lot. Embedding YT into Patreon pages sucks a little less (but still a bit because it ignores things like volume settings made on the YT main page). Providing direct links, especially in a way that they work right out of the Patreon email, is the best method.
WooShell
2025-01-25 21:07:08 +0000 UTCOkay. Since a couple of weeks i have an Apple TV. Thanks for the tip here to use airplay. That worked like a charm! So no problem with the player any more ... 😂
Bas van Schooten
2025-01-25 20:45:23 +0000 UTCDidn't Patreon get successfully sued in a class action lawsuit over the video player last year?
Brad Sparks
2025-01-25 20:39:23 +0000 UTCRid it......it's the youtube generation
Badonicus
2025-01-25 20:39:21 +0000 UTCCan't pause video.
Joe Barrett
2025-01-25 20:33:34 +0000 UTCI do the same, open and then use the TV app to see it in the history and then watch it. I watch most of my YouTube subscriptions on telly including TWiR 👍
Simon Arnold
2025-01-25 20:32:17 +0000 UTCI'm fine with it, by which I mean I can tolerate it because I'm exclusively a desktop user and I can live with the basic but irritating display options. I can also see the advantages of not having everything on YouTube, you might even be able to occassionally use more than two seconds of a potentially copyrighted sound. But I can clearly see why a sizeable portion of Patreons would have an issue with having it forced upon them. And if history has taught us anything (which it appears it hasn't) then maybe completely switching something because a small majority of people think it is acceptable isn't always the best strategy. But it is nice to be on the side that says "Don't effect me pal, unleash hell. Those fires aren't my problem" for once...
dean coster
2025-01-25 20:22:50 +0000 UTCLike many others, I would prefer the Youtube version, but wouldn't abandon my Patreon support if this is where you'd prefer to upload Patreon exclusive content. (You will love the heat pump/air con in your new office!)
Bar Crocker
2025-01-25 20:14:42 +0000 UTCThe Patreon player is crap. Doesn't hide the mouse cursor and double clicking to fullscreen doesn't work. No resolution options. If it was a good player I wouldn't really care either way
Joshua Rogers
2025-01-25 20:14:09 +0000 UTCYouTube’s my preference, but that’s because I use the Premium features, particularly download and background play, very useful for listening on dog walks. Plus I like to think a small slice of that sub also ends up with Mat.
Andrew Davison
2025-01-25 20:05:05 +0000 UTCThis poll result is looking worryingly like the Brexit referendum!
Steve Rose
2025-01-25 20:04:33 +0000 UTCCan cast it (Android) but is pretty awful even doing that. If <5 min ok, more than that prefer YouTube.
Robin Capper
2025-01-25 19:48:37 +0000 UTCIf it’s exclusive to Patreon then I can’t play it on my TV so it might as well not exist, since Patreon haven’t bothered to support Smart TVs. I don’t understand the logic of only actual Patrons can play it. I’m an actual Patron but I can’t play it on my TV it unless I can open it in YouTube. I’m not interested in watching your videos on a phone or a tablet. It’s the 40” Smart TV or nothing. If it goes Patreon only, with regret I’ll unsubscribe.
Gadgetman
2025-01-25 19:43:19 +0000 UTCMy only problem is with my VPN. Patreon doesn't let me use the app, so I always have to use the YouTube link.
Daniel Hicks
2025-01-25 19:39:49 +0000 UTCI've only tried it on my browser so far, not the app, but it feels very similar to youtube in that. I use firefox and it has the option to "pop out" videos and let you overlay them, at any size, with whatever else you are doing. If I'm able to also pop out the video on the app on android then that would be better than youtube, where it's only possible if you're paying for premium. In terms of quality both looked/sounded the same to me.
Keith G
2025-01-25 19:32:39 +0000 UTCPlease keep the YouTube link.
John S
2025-01-25 19:23:17 +0000 UTCI won't watch the content if it's not available on my (dumb)smartTV, so the Patreon player might be perfectly fine, but if something's exclusive to it, to me it might as well not exist. I'm just one among many though so do what you feel is best.
Grosporina
2025-01-25 19:02:38 +0000 UTCAs long as you include the YouTube link as well, I’m happy
ark
2025-01-25 18:57:41 +0000 UTCI voted no, because I generally don't like it in comparison to the YouTube player. There's no "theater mode" option that makes the player almost as big as the browser window without requiring fullscreen - the latter of which I don't like because you then can't multitask when on a computer. Picture-in-Picture works okay, but (at least on a Mac) you can only make it about 1/4 the size of your monitor. And, like many others, I watch on my TV (via Apple TV) quite often and there's no easy way to do that with the Patreon app like there is with YouTube. All that being said, I also understand it from your point of view - wanting it to be truly Patreon exclusive. So if that's how you decide to do it, I'm not about to drop my support over it. 😉
Patrick Bianchi
2025-01-25 18:55:38 +0000 UTCSupports AirPlay so no real issue for me bc all the big TV's in the house support that so makes no difference
Liam Maggs
2025-01-25 18:52:35 +0000 UTCIt's yourself! Fancy bumping into you here.
Brian Condron
2025-01-25 18:50:31 +0000 UTCthat is probably true. But let me reconsider my first comment. I don't have enough experience with the patreon player to have an opinion about it. I probably need to use it more often to be able to do that
DwightRides
2025-01-25 18:49:46 +0000 UTCAll I want is a clickable YouTube link.
Dan Dastun
2025-01-25 18:47:38 +0000 UTCI kind of don't care; I have general preference for not using it, but it's not the end of the world if I have to. My telly supports AirPlay anyway, so I can just open it on my phone and tell it to play on my telly. I realise that's not an option for everyone though.
Chris Crowther
2025-01-25 18:45:29 +0000 UTCAwesome news on the garden office thing. As to the video player - be great if it had better control options like skip forward or back.
Rik Kershaw-Moore
2025-01-25 18:45:06 +0000 UTCPlease see my ramblings on your update vid.
Gareth R
2025-01-25 18:44:27 +0000 UTCMaybe it's just what you exported, but the framerate of the video felt lower with this one, a bit more juddery than i'm used to. Not a dealbreaker though :)
Matthew Stratford
2025-01-25 18:43:26 +0000 UTCIt worked ok for me, even went “full screen” (player by itself) on Vision Pro, but YouTube would be fine too. I am going to suggest YouTube for the convenience of everybody else on this list.
Kevin Mitchell
2025-01-25 18:40:45 +0000 UTCSince i watch all content on my TV, its a thumbs down for me
Micael Ebbmar
2025-01-25 18:34:41 +0000 UTCI'm forced to watch this on my phone or laptop. I prefer watching on my OLED TV and I can't figure out how to stream it with the app.
Rudy Rodriguez
2025-01-25 18:33:56 +0000 UTCNeed a player that casts to TV so Patreon player is a no for me
Paul Durrant
2025-01-25 18:32:39 +0000 UTCI think the thing with surveys is that if you don’t have an opinion then you don’t respond to the survey.
Techmoan
2025-01-25 18:32:16 +0000 UTCCan't watch it on my TV so thumbs down from me.
Glyn Roberts
2025-01-25 18:28:22 +0000 UTCOften times the patreon player buffers when youtube never does. The biggest issue is there is no manual quality control. It often starts low res then goes up in bitrate but doesn't intelligently go back down in quality if its needed mid video. I often need to refresh multiple times when using the patreon player.
Junky
2025-01-25 18:27:50 +0000 UTCJust fine, no frills. Was able to cast to Chromecast without any issue.
Steve Smith
2025-01-25 18:26:22 +0000 UTCIt works ok but just means I have to download the video and transfer it to my NAS to watch on my TV instead of just clicking the link. Go with whichever one is easier for you, we will always find a workaround and you can’t please everyone :-)
Adam Stewardson
2025-01-25 18:24:54 +0000 UTCIt's fine I think but I normally open it on YouTube I think? Or are their some videos that are only on the Patreon player?
Josette Reynolds
2025-01-25 18:23:28 +0000 UTCSeems fine I guess? That was the first time I've used it.
antzpantz
2025-01-25 18:19:18 +0000 UTCWorks fine for me, Mat. The only time it won’t be an option is if I’m on my work machine, but the counter argument is that I should be working, not watching videos. Good luck with the project, it sounds great - looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
Mark Gough
2025-01-25 18:15:48 +0000 UTCWorks fine for me! Got mixed up with the old way.
Mark Walsham
2025-01-25 18:13:51 +0000 UTCat 49 v 51 we are not helping much 😁
Martin Dooley
2025-01-25 18:07:46 +0000 UTCThe player has a big benefit when watching on the iPad. With YouTube I can’t watch the videos in fullscreen in the Patreon app, but the player finally allows it. With YouTube I can either watch it in small resolution in the Patreon app or go to YouTube and watch it with ads in full resolution which I also don’t want. So the Patreon player actually is an improvement for me.
Ludwig Kormann
2025-01-25 18:07:30 +0000 UTCThere needs to be a "meh... " option in the poll. 😂 The Patreon player is fine, but not great. I prefer YouTube, but for the patron-only videos, I totally understand if you want to use the Patreon player.
Laurence MacNeill
2025-01-25 18:06:36 +0000 UTCI’ve said no as most of my YouTube viewing is via TV but if it solves a problem for you then I’ll survive!
Paul Moore
2025-01-25 18:02:33 +0000 UTCThe Patreon player means more of the content producers can put out protected stuff. These cheese sandwich videos from you and others mean more off the cuff, low editing content. I stream it from my tablet to my Apple TV.
Raymond Nichols
2025-01-25 18:02:11 +0000 UTCUnfortunately, Patreon's privacy policy is just as awful.
Tunix
2025-01-25 17:57:46 +0000 UTCI don't mind it anymore, but I still prefer YT links if I want to watch Patreon vids at work where I am not logged into Patreon.
RTheren
2025-01-25 17:56:56 +0000 UTCWorks fine on Windows 10 PC running Chrome.
Buckaroo Bunny Slippers
2025-01-25 17:55:19 +0000 UTCI've had on and off issues with any media embedding in the Android Patreon app but the website works just fine and it where I watch videos anyway whilst I 'm working.
Scott Call
2025-01-25 17:55:08 +0000 UTCWhen it works it works fine. But maybe 10% of the time it just doesn't work.
Tristan Abbott
2025-01-25 17:54:30 +0000 UTCIt’s awful
Colin Creasy
2025-01-25 17:53:08 +0000 UTCI'm fine with it, I've used it on my patreon, and it does give you more control.
Longplay Games
2025-01-25 17:51:38 +0000 UTCI don't use it, but then the YT player is familiar to me.
Big Car
2025-01-25 17:51:30 +0000 UTCI guess it depends on how people view the videos. It's fine for people using computers, tablets or phones. Probably not so good for TV users. The only drawback I can see from your end is it doesn't add to your YouTube views, so probably best only used for the Patreon stuff that don't make enough views to make ad revenue.
evilution
2025-01-25 17:46:44 +0000 UTCI was also surprised when the subtitles suddenly newid i'r Gymraeg am 12:45.
Tunix
2025-01-25 17:42:16 +0000 UTCWorks perfectly fine watching through any browser on any of my computers. I have never felt the use for stoobid apps or to watch video content on something as small as a phone. :)
springbay
2025-01-25 17:41:36 +0000 UTCI watch all YouTube videos sitting on a couch using a big TV. Fortunately I also have a PC connected to my TV so I was able to watch it as always but YouTube is just easier.
Michael Wehr
2025-01-25 17:41:22 +0000 UTCFirefox has a neat feature where you can "detach" a playing video (works with most including youtube and patreon) and you get a video window that you can resize and place anywhere and stays on top of other windows.
silviu
2025-01-25 17:39:14 +0000 UTCWorked fine on my Mac with 27" 4K screen
MrHammond
2025-01-25 17:37:34 +0000 UTCPersonally, I prefer YouTube as I can watch them on my TV.
Ruairi P Donaldson
2025-01-25 17:34:21 +0000 UTCI tend to watch your videos on the TV.
Terry Shepherd
2025-01-25 17:24:22 +0000 UTCI only voted I didn't like it because most of the content I watch is through sky ( YouTube app)
Neil Tonks
2025-01-25 17:23:40 +0000 UTCI much prefer watching on YouTube. I can watch it on any device, resume the video from one device to another, file it with other videos I want to watch in playlists, and a lot of other things I can't do on Patreon. But most importantly I like to watch stuff on my TV, so the Patreon player is a deal breaker for me. Honestly I wouldn't worry too much about non-patrons being able to watch exclusive videos. People are always going to find a way around any kind of paywall, and it's very easy to download a Patreon video and reupload it somewhere else. It just adds an extra step, which I don't think would be enough to discourage people scrapping content to share with other people who can't/aren't willing to pay.
Thibaut Renaux
2025-01-25 17:23:06 +0000 UTCI don't have the Patreon app. (I hate having separate apps when a web browser will do.) So my experience was watching in Safari on an iPhone. It was fine. My preference is YouTube links to unlisted videos, but that's a mild preference.... I completely understand wanting to have some content posted on Patreon to keep people from sharing the unlisted links.
Aaron Hurd
2025-01-25 17:22:52 +0000 UTCAlso, to add, don't posts sort of "disappear" off the feed on here after a while? I can't easily, if I wanted to, find an Oddcast from three years ago. On YouTube I can. And yes, I often rewatch them! (The audio versions are all still here, mind you.)
Brad Jones
2025-01-25 17:21:27 +0000 UTCPerfectly ok in my book
WWW.APCG.SE
2025-01-25 17:20:39 +0000 UTCThis is the same for me too, I usually watch YouTube in Cinema mode. I also prefer YouTube for Offline viewing, I can download the videos and watch on when traveling.
Jamie Cruickshank
2025-01-25 17:11:41 +0000 UTCPatreon player is fine. Althoug I usually watch Youtube with the biggest player before fullscreen. In here it is only the small player or full screen. On phone both are equal, I just more likely watch videos on a computer.
MikaH
2025-01-25 17:09:39 +0000 UTCHello Brian
Dave Velociraptor
2025-01-25 17:09:11 +0000 UTCFor Safari users, I recommend getting the Baking Soda app, which replaces custom video players with the native iOS/macOS one
Martin Porcheron
2025-01-25 17:09:03 +0000 UTCI appreciate your want/need to do it, but I prefer the flexibility as I'm not always in the same spot. But you look and sound better on the 70 inch Sony TV LOL. So I am in the middle, but would prefer it on YouTube. Thank you! keep up the excellent work and moaning. Thanks.
Whizz1976_
2025-01-25 17:08:20 +0000 UTCDunno, I never use it. I'll follow any links to youtube when those are available. edit: after trying it, I prefer the UI of the youtube player. There don't appear to be keyboard shortcuts to the player controls on patreon.
PileOfStuff
2025-01-25 17:08:03 +0000 UTCWatching this video on my phone while sitting on the couch opposite my telly just felt wrong and I was about to comment about never using it again. Then when the video finished I spotted the Airplay icon! Oh well. (Still prefer YouTube though, is non-Patrons watching the video a problem that needs solving?)
Brian Condron
2025-01-25 17:05:09 +0000 UTCThe video player is just fine, all it means is I have to watch on my phone - and I'm okay with that. Prefer the TV, but needs must.
Grace Robbins
2025-01-25 17:04:15 +0000 UTCI mostly watch my videos on my TV with my Roku and there is no Patreon app for that so the player isn't the issue for me, but it not being on YT is.
Mark Elliott
2025-01-25 17:02:19 +0000 UTCCheck out Colin Furze - and get that extra space by going underground!
Dan Heatherly
2025-01-25 17:01:45 +0000 UTCFascinating how this is very 50/50 now!
Ian Cull
2025-01-25 17:01:01 +0000 UTCNo problem here.
Pin Swede
2025-01-25 17:00:26 +0000 UTCTragic as it sounds, I like to add Patreon videos to a YouTube playlist, and obviously with this, I can't do that. I never watch YouTube via the TV, I like to make a distinction between my evening's TV based viewing, and my nocturnal YouTube-on-the-iPad-with-wine time!
Brad Jones
2025-01-25 16:58:52 +0000 UTCIt's not a deal breaker for me, I've learned to live with it for some other Patreons I support, but Patreon's video player is what I would call "wonky". Example, I prefer to watch at 1.25x or 1.5x speed, and the player offers that but doesn't actually change unless I right-click on the video and choose the speed from there instead. The YouTube player is just superior in several areas.
Don Eitner
2025-01-25 16:58:39 +0000 UTCYouTube please so I can watch on the big telly!
Mark Checkley
2025-01-25 16:58:35 +0000 UTCI don’t mind as I can stream it straight to my Apple TV. Slightly less convenient than the YouTube link, but absolutely fine.
John Scott
2025-01-25 16:57:58 +0000 UTCPatreon player works just fine.
Carsten Junge
2025-01-25 16:57:15 +0000 UTCI never noticed, but i also never installed a Patreon app. That might be the reason :-)
Nico Assinck
2025-01-25 16:57:03 +0000 UTCThere can be no middle ground!
David Boddie
2025-01-25 16:55:33 +0000 UTCThe Patreon player doesn't let me cast to my TV so I really don't like it.
Rowan Kerseboom
2025-01-25 16:54:55 +0000 UTCunsure why but on my Mac, I struggled to stop and start the video. Clicking play wouldn't work reliably.
Keir Thomas-Bryant
2025-01-25 16:53:50 +0000 UTCOut of hundreds of channels I'm subscribed to Techmoan is the only one I support on Patreon. No I don't want the app. The way you were doing it before was perfect 👌.
Renn
2025-01-25 16:52:58 +0000 UTCAbsolutely nothing wrong with it - I'd love it if you kept using it. Keep up the great work.
The Genos Club
2025-01-25 16:51:47 +0000 UTCProper videos, YouTube. Patreon exclusive nattering like this, Patreon player is fine for me.
Paul Coates
2025-01-25 16:51:39 +0000 UTCNow you are missing out on all the people who also have no opinion. I watch almost al the video's op my PC but I read one comment that casting is not available on this player. Beacaus I almost never cast youtube to my tv is why I have no opinion. It works fine on chrome.
DwightRides
2025-01-25 16:49:58 +0000 UTCWow, big news there. Congratulations! I'm sure you're gonna love the extra space.
Brian Gerfort
2025-01-25 16:49:42 +0000 UTCWell, I use Downie to enable me to watch all the videos on my TV. I haven't figured out how to do this from the Patreon players, links etc. It downloads at best 30 seconds of it. So I strongly prefer a YouTube link.. Even though the player itself is fine I guess...
Bas van Schooten
2025-01-25 16:49:25 +0000 UTCNothing wrong with the Patreon player. Casting works just fine from Android, iOS or PC to Chromecast, Roku or Apple TV box.
Aki Lehti
2025-01-25 16:49:06 +0000 UTCTo be fair, I never use the Patreon player - I always watch YT videos on my TV with the app. Rarely watch any videos on any other device - I open the YT link from the Patreon post on my phone/tablet with the YT app then open on the TV.
GrumpyToffee
2025-01-25 16:48:49 +0000 UTCFirst of all: I would watch you on a washing machine with internet connection if that was the only way. Other than that, youtube would be my preferred choice, greets from Germany.
Stephan Sanders
2025-01-25 16:48:06 +0000 UTCWell I don't mind it all
andreas wheeler
2025-01-25 16:46:21 +0000 UTCMy only issue with Patreon is the inability to stream it to my Smart TV.
Mason Carter
2025-01-25 16:46:11 +0000 UTCI prefer YouTube as I can watch it on the TV
Will Wren
2025-01-25 16:46:08 +0000 UTCI dislike it because I can't point at the video timeline and get a thumbnail before I scrub to the point in the video I wan to watch.
GrafxGear
2025-01-25 16:46:01 +0000 UTCAlways use the YouTube link
Howard Salmon
2025-01-25 16:45:52 +0000 UTCHaha, I didn't even think to use Airplay. I am not a smart man.
Howard Canning
2025-01-25 16:45:10 +0000 UTCMuch prefer YouTube and it has subtitles that are far more reliable than Patreon one
Alex James
2025-01-25 16:44:57 +0000 UTCI‘m watching it on my LG by airplaying/casting from my phone. Is that something you can try maybe?
GenOrgana
2025-01-25 16:44:24 +0000 UTCI‘m watching it on my LG tv by casting it from the iOS Patreon app to my Apple TV. I never really use this app tbh but opening a YouTube link from the email or a Patreon link isn’t such a big difference. I also like the YouTube download option for travelling, but it’s not my most common use-case. If it’s only the Patreon videos I think that’s quite reasonable so whatever works best for you.
GenOrgana
2025-01-25 16:43:25 +0000 UTCI prefer YouTube but I don't want to go as far as saying never use it again. It's not a big deal. I usually watch one second of patron videos so that I can find them in my history on the big telly. Techmoan is always big telly viewing, too good to watch on a phone!
Dave Velociraptor
2025-01-25 16:43:20 +0000 UTCI archive your videos for my private posterity and I can't seem to easily download videos from the patreon player. So in my book - rubbish.
Aairria
2025-01-25 16:42:20 +0000 UTCIf patreons player had the ability to link to our TV's like youtube it would be useful to us. But as it stands, we don't use it.
Motor Head
2025-01-25 16:42:16 +0000 UTCSeems that's right....and wrong.
Techmoan
2025-01-25 16:41:50 +0000 UTCIt does! Give it a try! 😁
Sketchy Millenial
2025-01-25 16:41:21 +0000 UTCDo not go to the Internet for council, it will say both "Yay" and "Nay".
Mark Rimmell
2025-01-25 16:41:13 +0000 UTCWhy are you doing other things while watching a video 😂
Lars Steenberg
2025-01-25 16:41:02 +0000 UTCI only watch videos on my desktop so it makes no difference to me, but can see how it could be frustrating for people that use phones, TVs etc.
Gareth P
2025-01-25 16:40:32 +0000 UTCIf I have no opinion about something that would mean I'm fine with it. But perhaps that's just the odd way I think - I try to minimise the things in my brain's pending tray.
Techmoan
2025-01-25 16:38:57 +0000 UTCThere is a cast function? At least, I'm casting it to my chromecast right now.
Thomas Delien
2025-01-25 16:38:49 +0000 UTCYour update videos are often ASMR for me. Sorry. But it works. 😀😴
Kevin Steele
2025-01-25 16:38:42 +0000 UTCWorks fine, and you can also airplay it to the tv.
Lars Steenberg
2025-01-25 16:38:31 +0000 UTCIt's fine in a browser, but youtube "just works" on every device with a screen on the planet, and can be easily casted from any phone to basically any TV nowadays. (Airplay from a browser to an apple TV still isn't a great experience generally, especially if you want to use your phone while it's playing).
Steve Jobs (of Apple)
2025-01-25 16:38:20 +0000 UTCI watch youtube on my living room screen via chromecast, I don't believe the patreon player offers that option.
Nico Assinck
2025-01-25 16:37:30 +0000 UTCRubbish. On iPhone it won’t do PIP so I can’t do anything else on my phone while watching. It also won’t do Chromecast or even AirPlay so there’s effectively no way to watch on my TV. One of the worst video plays out there. EDIT: The PIP issue may be a limitation of playing the video in Safari inside the Gmail app. It works in Safari itself. Still no casting or airplay, though.
Jason Rabinowitz
2025-01-25 16:37:30 +0000 UTCI don't use it unless I have to but it's fine
NateTheOK
2025-01-25 16:37:07 +0000 UTCI say use it only for content that would be demonetized or takedown-prone on YouTube. Otherwise I prefer the YouTube player
Asaf Sagi
2025-01-25 16:36:49 +0000 UTCAs a laptop only user, no issues.
Mike Mansfield
2025-01-25 16:36:44 +0000 UTCI much prefer the Patreon player, because it doesn't require me to consent to Google's data handling. I became a Patreon just so I could give up YouTube, so it's a shame that it doesn't really resolve that problem for me. I know that's a very niche thing/idiosyncrasy though.
Ben Wilde
2025-01-25 16:36:41 +0000 UTCI have no opinion but not able to put that in the poll. You might consider putting the option in.
DwightRides
2025-01-25 16:36:35 +0000 UTCI rarely watch the videos via the Patreon list because it's such a mess. If there was a way to search a little better, or if they were organized into playlists, etc. As for the video included below, I'd not encountered any problems with playback. Love the idea of a new setup but will very much miss the workbench.
Ralph Fontcuberta
2025-01-25 16:36:31 +0000 UTC99.9% of my Youtube viewing is done on my TV (LG OLED) so it's a real shame I can't watch this video in the same way, unless someone can tell me otherwise?!
Howard Canning
2025-01-25 16:36:10 +0000 UTCIt's pretty bad, also I just want to say that I really appreciate in your regular posts that you include the YouTube link so I can skip patreon's interface entirely
Sam Carl
2025-01-25 16:36:08 +0000 UTCMaybe an edge use case, but I travel a lot and have YouTube premium to download stuff for the journeys and a video oddcast is a real treat in that situation. AFAIK downloading isn’t possible with Patreon’s video player so the old setup gets my vote. Will watch regardless though so do what’s best for you! Cheers
Dan Foggin
2025-01-25 16:35:49 +0000 UTCThe Patreon app works just fine for me and on the web player.
David Potter
2025-01-25 16:35:14 +0000 UTCThat's the best kind of CED.
Techmoan
2025-01-25 16:34:44 +0000 UTCYes....but only because of it's lack of built in cast function.
LANDLINEMAN.com
2025-01-25 16:33:59 +0000 UTCThe picture jumps around like a damaged CED.
Nicky
2025-01-25 16:33:47 +0000 UTC
