Mind Drop #22 (05/11/2021) Almost

are the updates released?

Eddy Dominguez

Wanna see stuff with Harper so bad

Cole Lovatt

You just wanted to hear your voice most of these comments have been up for 2 weeks at a time and no one said anything disrespectful. A week turned in to 2 which now is going in to a month. But no one is complaining just stated still waiting…. So next time you choose to get on a soapbox make sure there is reasoning behind it. We are all supporters and being patient but there is nothing with someone saying they are waiting.

YoungWimbeldon

Will renpy fix their Java issue regarding iOS??? No renpy games are loading after the new iOS update due to Java technicalities… anyone here know how to fix this???

Abraham

For fuck sakes people he has a wedding he’s preparing for…

Simran Ghotra

I don't believe it will happen with BD as they seem more open to communicate problems they have, but others on patreon I've followed have done similar and then never show up again.

Sol לורד להב ארטוריאס

sometime in 2043 "maybe it will be this weekend?"

Luca Zipfel

Definitely. I hope he'll consider that, in the first place for his own health and well-being. I had a boss who had the same "this-project-is-my-own-creature" approach, reluctant to delegate part of the job to other people because he was scared it would have become different from what he originally conceived. The only tangible result was working day and night, breaking up with his wife and periodically burning out.

brokemolotov

You cant say check the next day if you go silence for a month. Please a little respect for your patrons.

Jonatan

I agree with this 100% but I'd still like to see him hiring on some help. Dude's running himself ragged.

RootTheAmygdala

Looks like no update until mid-June so 2 more weeks hopefully

Severed Paladin

I like the sound of that

Rudy M Long

I Honestly think he'll release towards the end of this month or start of june, then say he's taking a break for a month to truly focus on his family and his health, before finally coming back to us in July a rejuvenated man.

Xen

15 day's passed and no news, but no charge for June...

TheBigOne

and lets say the other 12 month? thats enough for a while for him i think. you think he spend all of that money from the other month??

Markus Hlastec

he didnt get any of that money in like 3 months though.

Drippel

lol suuuure he will abandon his source of income and so much money *lol*

Markus Hlastec

If past behavior is at all indicative of his motivation here, usually if he wasn't gonna have it ready before that month, he didn't bill that month. Now does this mean it'll be ready May 31st or June 30th? That's anybody's guess.

RootTheAmygdala

Feel that so much

RootTheAmygdala

Concerned that we'll get one final update eventually and then this project will be abandoned...

Hg0

I do miss the updates but I also have mad respect for BD to suspend the pledges because I think this is his means of income and with a family on the way and moving yes mad Respect for you my friend

Phillip Gosson

At this point I don't feel like radio silence conveys "working hard" as strongly as it did two weeks ago. It would be nice to get another update on progress.

Blackinferno16

I think it's more likely that just means the update won't be ready before the 1st of June. Or maybe BD just decided not to bill. I dunno, hard to say.

Heap

Yeah, I wonder if that means he wont be done till then.

Xen

it hurts.

Drippel

i dont mean it in a bad way, its just like somebody dangling my favorite candy in front of me but no matter how much i struggle i can never reach it.

Drippel

One can make the argument that it's at least not costing us anything as patrons, but at the same time, I feel it too.

RootTheAmygdala

No billing until july... I'm not surprised.

Mitsuru

Wow

D

i am frustrated

Drippel

Two weeks to flatten the update....

Hg0

day 9 is not yet complete

Freki

I just binged the entire thing and want moar

Howdoidjent #4049

Isn’t the latest version day 1-9?

Howdoidjent #4049

It would be nice but, i don't expect the update, or news on the update , until the end of May. It's probably going to be just before the billing date for June .

Mitsuru

could this wekkend be it?

Dumber

ye true

Dumber

I want you to know even if I say ask "WhErE iS tHe UpDaTe?!" One day I love your work and it has turned into something fun and meaningful to me. Never think that I'm mad at you or that I'm trolling or anything. I respect the honest way you conduct yourself by not taking money from your patrons when you miss deadlines and stuff like that or when you are just backed up on your work. I've personally never seen someone do that and I love that about you. Cause in the end even if don't get my fix of awesome content that you put out. I know you won't be taking your patrons money when the job is not done. Which in it self acts like a bandaid on the fact that updates get delayed.

FoggyArt

At $22,000 per month, if he actually had consistent Updates and so than he could collect pledges each month then he would be bringing in $264,000 each year. with that income he could hire 3 employees at a salary of $50,000 per year to do what he told them. If they don't do the work right then he should fire them like any job. If he then took an annual salary for himself of $75,000, that would then leave $39,000 for equipment, supplies, office space (if he has a home office his rent/house payment becomes a business expense which he pays out of this and it is a tax deduction) internet, etc. this is why he should hire help and form an LLC, or S-Corp or some form of small business. He could also then have one or more of the employees begin a new game to generate new/additional income. however as long as he continues to attempt to do everything by himself, then yes, he will probably end up burning out. Lucasfilm didn't become a success because George Lucas did everything by himself. That's why you hire people to perform specific tasks and hold them accountable to meet deadlines.

Michael Stafford

anyone notice the girl to the left of Shauna in the banner looks like she is bald on the back of the head? just thought it was kind of funny.

me

If you link your patron account with your discord account you will be automatically added.

Englen

hey how can i join the discord

Saif

Yeah sadly i have the same vibe =S

Mitsuru

Ya BD hire some else so their computer can kill them in there sleep after 1500 renders

Phillip Gosson

Not so much a comment. Just wanted to know a question about something that got me thinking. Bella runs a charity she wants the MC to join. MacKenzie said his social media is blowing up with everyone including celebrity. Will MC get invites from celebrity basketball stars to play charity game.

Ernest Leskovar

Don't forget he has a kid on the way too. I fear he will pull the plug on WVM in the not so distant future, it would suck but with everything he has going on atm i wouldn't be surprised.

Crash_Override

Interventions aren't supposed to be fun. Most of us would willingly pay our monthly if it meant we could get a more reliable update schedule. With eye issues and a wedding on the way this project is going to continue to slide to the right without some kind of change. A quarter of a million dollars annually will go a long way and its giving a freelancer(s) a job. If BD doesn't like the quality, reassess. If he needs to redo scenes, fine. I know this is his baby but he's the head writer and executive director of a game company whether he's realized it or not. People love the no-nonsense harem genera he's created and they love his work; become the adult video novel version of Dave Filoni and own it.

Hg0

and I've followed a few dev team where the images didn't even look right after bringing them on and the dev didn't really QA their work and it showed... case and point look to MIRO.

Freki

Not true I follow a few dev's that are a team and work together and get shit done

dm2112

he has not collected that $22K a month in the past two or three months either sure he could hire someone who'd be able to do the work but will it be the same? he'd have to go over it himself because they might miss something, so he'd still have to be able to see well and edit and let me tell you EDITING someone else's work is not easy nor a fast process.

Freki

At $22k a month and months of delays its time for an intervention. Hire a minion so your eyes don't explode while still maintaining creative control.

Hg0

But still with love and acceptance of course.

Kenneth Campbell

I like the fact that He has paused funds, and Agree with all your statements, the fact that life, wedding plans becoming a father and his health problems, The fact that he was always up front about the need for a delay in release, Really looking forward to the next release. At least the long term changes from his are massive updates, I get really annoyed when it has been months and the release comes out with like three extra scenes.

Kenneth Campbell

Or how well they do because I am so well managed now.

Kenneth Campbell

Ok I'm more than happy to wait especially when it comes to health and family, but everyone seems to be sugar coating what they really want to say... so I will take the heat and just say it... We want IT and we want it NOW... LOL sorry just going through withdraw symptoms

Severed Paladin

I'm always happy to wait until your work is ready for us to enjoy. I do however miss the updates on how you are doing. How's the word count going on the touch typing?

Gareth Roberts

i need my fix

Drippel

Annny day now...

Hg0

love your work. look after yourself sounds like a lot to do.

Elric

B.D there's a ton of VN's out there some good some mediocre some with great storytelling, but terrible artwork, others great art but no real story you put together an amazing mishmash of the best that any game could hope for with the quality to not just make it enjoyable but interesting as well. You were always dependable with updates and drops in a timely fashion. And changing your timetable from more frequent or less to see which works best for you, doesn't mean your not dependable, it just means you have a life, and real life will always take precedence over escapism life. So many dev's update randomly months apart, sometimes several months apart and those VN's with the exception of one or two have nowhere near the level of quality that you always give us. So you just keep being awesome doing what you think is right and proper and all of us will keep coming back for more, all in "your" good time. Sorry for being long winded but some things must be said like comparing you to other dev's to point out where and how you shine.

james theberge

Like the comedian Brad Williams "who is a little person" once said, you know who I hate people who get offended on behalf of other people those guys can eat a bag of d!€ks and not a small bag a great big economy size bag.

james theberge

Please keep this going. Im super addicted to it and love every aspect. I need more. Can't wait to see how good the team will be with out me playing

Malachi Martin

The game is great.

James ong

You sir re doing the lord’s work

Josh Reedy

🎵 Anticipation.... 🎶

AlphaEcho

dont worry brain let the people smack talk all the want as long it dont take 2 years i can wait 1 year and 11 months before a update :) just kidding take your time and it will be done when its done dont worry.

Headhunter32

Long live the infinite harem!

Hg0

No worries dude! Despite what some others might think, family and health always come first. Also, sometimes people are quick to judge from the sidelines, but keep doing what you're doing because only you know what is best for your life, and the project. Love your work so far and I'll happily continue to wait patiently for updates!

Jabbonk Games

Congrats on the 3k (+) subs. Don't sweat the setbacks, you are doing just what you should, keeping us informed of what's going on and adjusting your estimates accordingly. ALWAYS PUT FAMILY AND HEALTH FIRST ALWAYS, I cannot stress that enough. And if I may, a word of advice, if you are not already.... Invest a good chunk of that money, the weather is sunny today but next week it could be raining.

James Smith

I fully agree to that. I can wait, but please give us a live sign in at least 7 day's from now

TheBigOne

I'll just restate what I've said many times in the past. I have complete faith in your work ethic and have no problem waiting till you are able to get out the quantity and quality of content you are happy with. The one thing I don't want is for you to put out content that YOU are unhappy with.

Dreamlab Studio

I'm comfortable waiting and supporting for as long as it takes to see this great game finished and incoming projects too. Congrats for your 3k supporters and thank you for this amazing game. Stay healthy and keep up the good work.

Ozzfest

BD Keep up the good work, and although poor, I will continue to give my $1 when you decide to take it again. :)

Chris Keith

As a POOR disabled person I had ZERO offense from what BD said about being poor, I took it as he cares, as for the other part of it about the doubters, again I see nothing wrong there. Personally I can imagine it would be unwelcoming to have to constantly listen to ppl complain about how I handle things and think they are entitled to do so SIMPLY because they think their money entitles them to act like his boss, again MY opinion not his. I am not trying to say you are doing this, but like a business is entitled to tell a jerk customer to leave, so is BD entitled to do so, and even more so when he isn't actually getting paid to do so right now.

Chris Keith

SkyIT#7086, who cares if someone finds what BD or anyone else says offensive if it is the truth. no one is making them support this game. I say what's on my mind, tell it like I see it and fuck your feelings and if your offended when I speak the truth as I see it. most people are to sensitive today anyway and get offended over everything. if you don't like it then don't listen. just to be clear, this was not aimed at you . I am simply telling how I deal with people.

me

"Okay, I'm going back to work. This is honestly 100% the last post until the the juicy 1500+ render update." what he really meant was last post until the dumbass bitching gets to him again, LOL. like others have said, take your time we will wait for and prefer quality over quantity.

me

As others have said I'm here because I want to. I am willing to help if I can in any way :) I like what you do and enjoy what you make. I am jonesing for the next installment but I won't try to rush you why? because that makes for a BAD release. Do not ever think because I say I'm eagerly waiting for the release that I am demanding it, on the contrary it means I'm looking forward to what I've come to expect from you and that is quality work and a great story... just keep us informed that's all we ask :)

Freki

We are all way too invested now to be detoured by some delay take your time :)

FosterGail

@brain drop Serious mod on: U re an honest and clear guy that LOVE minddrops and talk mutch at least with us, u are also a caring one. I feel ur complain about pledges etc... but u cant, and its not fair to say if u are poor i dont want ur money or i do what i want if its ok for u ok, if its not thats the exit door. Im sure thats not what u was meaning but its what someone may understand. That can be VERY offensive. Everyone has their will and souls and that must be respected. Every patreon that "support" do that bcs like ur game and obv want more. Maybe somone made some sacrifice to support u but what im sure its that they dont deserve those too caring words that could be missunderstood. U alredy did it!! u have stop pledges multiple times!!! We care of it We saw that! and im greatfull for that! Thankyou a lot :) not many if ANY have would do the same as you especially with those cifres! i appreciate ur honesty! People pay what they want and do what they want since start of times and thats only their affair and business that u havent any control on, along with such decisions comes the responsibility for it. other thing that u havent and cant ve control on. Sometimes i feel that u are like MC in ur game... always trying to help everyone thats valiant and cool but.... this but bring me to 2nd part of my poem u ve to put at least in ur mind dead lines and thats not only bcs time and schedule but also bcs caring too caring its wrong like everything its too mutch, like work too mutch, get too mutch sick and everything other that cross ur mind. Im not saying all this too fighting u but to advice u. U re not the only caring person around world even here ur patreons give u support and advice on u and told u to take a break to do not wrose ur healt etc.. etc... sometimes it is not necessary to say a word but to listen.. I dont know u but i know u feel comfortable and at home when u are programming i also know that u dislike deadlines and its here that i think to ur future, u are planning a marry!! (funny mod on) run away untill u are in time (funny mod off) u ll be a father! im happy for u, ur family and wellness :D i know its soon but im already thinking about this little braindrop that run around and who like write their mind down as him father! dreaming he ll be a writer :O :D U too often work too mutch and keep crushing life and schedules for that i say u need balance! u need time multiple times but u are just one! so schedule it. u need time for ur wife, ur future son, for us :D and many other things how do u think to plan future? u need to plan marry than take a break! are u moving? take a week etc... Well at end summary, dont get sick and take care ... OF urself, do not get overstressed,do not beat ur self, take care of ur life we ll be there if u need us :) Sorry for mind drop ahahah! i always want to say that! XD Oh yeah that check everyday from u was a really bad joke i have to admit i was checking every day too XD sry for my english its not my first langauge.

SkyIT#7086

>people that don't like […] what I have planned for the future Ooh my 👀

JunkoFett

Tell the haters to eat a bag of dicks... you're making great content and that takes time<3

Dennis

Take care of real.life before cause that is the most important. Mind your health, happiness and long night sleep, because once you join the nappi possie, no more sleep.

Hailstorm

Nice update and your priorities are on target! Family, planning a wedding and planning for being a Father are all important and should come in front of WVM. Please continue to work on keeping a balance and remember to let yourself be human - you'll make mistakes (we all do) so learn what you can from them and move on - no beating yourself up just because you are not 'perfect' enough.

Pax

It's fine take your time

Romen Martin

O.M.G. Whine, whine, whine. (ok, getting off soapbox right now). Dude. Don't stress it. You have earned all the support you have due to your excellent work up until this point. You absolutely *cannot* pay attention to those toxic folks over at F95zone (even though it's where I learned about you). Reject the negativity, and do what you need to do. We are looking forward to the next instalment, and will IMMENSELY enjoy it when it arrives. Really.

PsychIntent Games

Love the game so far! And please don't be pressured into releasing too soon. It's the end results that matters.

Nonninn

Keep up the good work! This is the game that really got me into this genre of games. Just keep being you man.

ObsidianLuna

On a light note I do like your header pic. A total "ass" buffet, very nice.

Rudy M Long

Take your time, do it your way, most of us don't talk a lot but we do support you. Just not as vocal ;)

Ashrah

ples don't work to hard keep the good work coming we all love it

Rob Turner

Cannot wait for the update, have had an itch to replay the game but wanted to wait for the update. Completely understand the delay, will just add to the excitement when the update is released.

Toto

I would rather see no content for while than terrible content. With all the challenges you've faced over the last while the quality of your game is still outstanding. Keep up the amazing work and congrats on hitting 3K.

ValkXB70

Hey man I think you are doing a great job on this game, been in the same shoes as you for planing big changes in your life and issues you need to take care of, keep up the great work and keep your head up as a fan of your guys work I'm looking forward to this next update and the future ones you do

Josh Allen

You're fuckin awesome, man. The game is one of the best I've played and personally I can wait as long as it takes you. Family ALWAYS comes first and of course health. Get it out when you can. I'm a fan of both the kind of person you seem to be and of your creations. Keep it up.

Here it is, our beloved frog, posted by even more beloved creator. Keep up the good work!!! For me, as long as you keep us updated, all is fine ♡ It's obvious that real life troubles and events come first

ElamStor