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Re: Zero 1x10 (18&19) Reaction Extended (YT link below)

In Re: Zero 1x10, From Zero & Battle Against the White Whale, Subaru starts over from Zero but for real this time when he decides it's time to stop the white whale from eating everyone's wives.

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51:26 Literally the plot of the Manhwa "SSS-Class Suicide Hunter"! xP I know how it sounds, but it's actually way better than the cliche name suggests

Baddy

Ok, Rem did talk about his physical appearance most of the time, but not only! She was rather talking about that and his character at the same time. For example when she talked about his usually stern eyes going soft when he's kind to and cares about someone or how he walks, that he looks back from time to time to see if she is alright — Those clearly also, if not mainly, talk about his kind and caring character, and not only about the physical traits themselfs.

Baddy

Idk if you'll read this but I have you to thank for getting me to watch this show in the first place - I usually don't pay attention to your reaction/commentary videos of shows unless I've already watched them, but with Re:zero I was like eh what the heck I wonder what this show is even about, I'll watch the first few eps. The shows you watch and commentate on through your channel are normally good shows after all. And holy shit, I've never emotionally resonated with the main character of a show so much. I didn't even know it was possible for any form of media to do this. It's wild. It's kinda making me wanna get back into streaming/content creation myself. I want to be able to be a positive influence on others, and I know I can be, even if it's just through random coincidences like this - getting someone to watch a show and that show ends up being super meaningful toward them. It's not like you know me personally or anything, I just feel like you ought to know how doing what you do has led to me being positively impacted in such a severe manner, even if indirectly, you know?

Plasma Lemon

the reason crusch seemed like a terrible person in previous episodes is because we can only see the story from subarus perspective. from his she was cold and judgmental and fine with letting Emilias people die. but from cruschs perspective subaru showed up and basically demanded that she risk the lives of her people to fight the which cult without eny incentive just because subaru asked them too. not to mention Emilia is an enemy camp to crusch. she would basically be risking her people's lives for nothing and to help an enemy.

Tyre Willis

I don't consider that a lot. Did you even look at the other comments? And yeah, I did have to explain my thought process.

Arakis

For someone who refuses to care about what happens next, you sure did write a lot. Anyway, nobody is forcing you to watch the show.

BirthdayParty

The other prologue show you’re thinking of is season 1 of Vinland Saga.

bl0odm1st

Beatrice is peak

Jade

When I first saw "From Zero", I had a pretty negative reaction. Watching it again with patience, I started to to really appreciate how insanely ambitious and challenging it is. That amazing scene of dialogue between Subaru and Rem is nearly 22 minutes long, practically a one-act stage play, in what's supposed to be a 23 minute cartoon. Rem's story of the path not taken is haunting, like something out of Dickens. What a gift for the voice actors.

trickster721

I am thoroughly convinced that anyone who sees this and doesn't immediately laugh at Subaru hasn't had a relationship before. It's not about Rem fawning over him. It's about Subaru and Rem having gone through and evolved their relationship about three times as much as he and Emilia have. If you really think about it, Subaru and Emilia spent half a day looking for a thief, helped a kid find its parents and she gave him a lap pillow. That's pretty much the extend of the good things. As for the bad things... I am not as pro-SubaruxRem (which I am) as I am against-SubaruxEmilia FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR (which I really am). I'm sure every guy has obsessed over a girl in his life. It is NOT a good thing, especially when it makes you blind to a better, happier alternative. Guys, Emilia does NOT view Subaru romantically. His self-appointed quest to change his mind is destructive (or it would be in real life). By the way, I dropped the show at the start of season 2, when I realized what the author was doing. And I will stop watching again when the reactions reach that point. I refuse to care about what happens next, until I learn about the series' end and whether some bad writing has been walked back. https://in.pinterest.com/pin/560135272406101768/

Arakis

Oh this is peak dawg

Russie ♡ Russell Bumpers

I don’t like any of these characters except Beatrice lol

Sunny

Well now I feel bad for not having an essay of things to say like everyone else. uhhhhhhhh I wish I had a Rem in my life to fawn over me and tell me how nice my fingers are. Truly living in a fantasy world.

Qingque

I'd say this is where the hero of Natsuki Subaru was truly born. Amazing episode on so many levels. He gets so much hate for the I Love Emilia line but I think he wanted to make that clear to Rem before continuing. The timing may not have been the best lol, but I think it came from a good place. Him being honest about what he wants to is exactly what Rem wanted from him. You are one of the few reactors I've seen that pointed out that Rem certainly has an obsession issue and isn't a perfect angel here. She is successful and picking him back up however but her outlook isn't perfect either. It still came from a good place though so I won't completely fault her for that. It's also nice that once Subaru was able to think about it in a calm state of mind he was able to come up with a solution. Like he's not an idiot but being put in these constantly stressful positions does eat at him. Of course his biggest issues though come internally and this episode is amazing to see him lay out all of his feelings about himself. It's not completely productive but it was necessary to move forward and for him to grow from this point. This is one of the best episodes of the show and truly peak character writing. I will also note that Subaru is very relatable to me on multiple levels. Subaru has helped me look at myself and helped me voice some of the thoughts about myself. I think him laying out everything in this way feels so real to how people who are struggling in life feel. Subaru isn't the only character in this show that I can relate to on some level but he definitely impacts me on another level.

Kimats0548

Yeah, episode 18 is a masterclass in character writing in my opinion. Cemented Re:Zero as an S tier show in my book. The catharsis of Subaru’s recognition of his faults is a feeling I’ll never forget. Although parts of it are “messy,” as are other parts of the show, that’s what compels me about these characters the most. They are all deeply flawed and feel more human than many other shows because of it. And part of that is what puts some people off about the show, it’s uncomfortable to watch at times. But to me, that uncomfortableness is valuable. Growth is not a linear rise to the top, it’s a rollercoaster ride that on average ascends higher with time and effort. I’d say the main thesis of this show is “real love is messy”. It’s not the fairy tale fantasy people want it to be. It requires sacrifice and introspection. It also urges you to reflect on your motivations for “loving” someone. How much of it is for them, or is it just for you? Rem’s attachment is unhealthy. But she’s at least trying to be selfless, and that’s the difference. She didn’t take the easy route and take advantage of Subaru’s desperation, but rejected him because no matter the weird things she might say, she actually wants the best for him. I would like to ask though as I’m curious: are your comments about characters being very on the nose about their criticisms of Subaru a critique on the show itself, as written? Or at the characters “in universe”, so to speak? Do you think the story would’ve been served better with maybe one poignant remark about Subaru from say Puck at the end of the death spiral here, and then left to subtext for the other interactions?

Steve.

It's like you said, we're finally done with the "prologue" of ReZero, with all the deliberate choices in the writing done by the author coming together rather nicely and with the story finally moving forward for Subaru. While there were definitely areas of concern or risks for fallacies in "From Zero", I actually do believe that Rem managed to give Subaru what was essentially a perfect push on the back in the best way possible, at the best time possible, and from the best person possible in that moment. There's obviously many layers to this, but primarily -- From Zero was great precisely because it was done by a Rem who valued Subaru's wellbeing above all else, who was willing to deny him the option of giving up for the sake of loving him. Even aside from the obvious courage that one needs to do this to someone they're head-over-heels for, the fact that she got the message across in a way that was so pure and unadulterated by even a trace of selfishness was simply magical -- which speaks a lot to Rem's character. One of the lines that stood out to me was Rem saying that if she were to run away with Subaru right now, she knew that she would be leaving behind "the Subaru that she loved the most". It has occurred to me that most of the people that hated Subaru's rejection of Rem didn't grasp the reality that this was quite literally the best, the most healthy, and most genuine thing that Subaru could've done for both himself and Rem, and she knows it too. Subaru loves Emilia because she saved him from what would've been his very first death in this world, which led to series of events in which he discovered more qualities of Emilia that was endearing to him -- the same way that Rem loves Subaru because he saved her at her lowest, thawed her frozen time, and showed her his qualities that quite literally no one else, not even himself can see at this stage of the story. Of course it causes Rem's heart to ache terribly, knowing that Subaru's romantic love has always been directed to Emilia, but what she feared more was losing this very same Subaru that would pour his heart and soul into loving -- not just Emilia --but also everyone around him in the most genuine way possible. Rem's entire goal of her rooftop confession was not to make Subaru fall for her at all, but to help him go back to being the Subaru that can stand back up on his feet -- even if that meant that Subaru is one that loves Emilia. Funny enough, back when I first watched this episode, I was so invested in the exchange that I actually predicted Subaru's "I love Emilia" and Rem's "Yes" in response -- by saying it out loud quite literally right before they each said their respective lines. (This was about the only time I've ever perfectly predicted both the dialogue + timing in just about any scene). To me this WAS that perfect line, with Subaru pausing before raising his head and reaffirming his love for Emilia being his way, an HONEST way, of telling Rem that he won't run away anymore. Rem's following "Yes" was also fitting because that was the result she was fighting for the whole time, and it also just goes beyond to show her own genuine selflessness in her love, which served as quite the ironic foil to Subaru's love for Emilia that had been tainted by impure elements leading up to this point. Beyond that, her way of raising Subaru up at his lowest was also extremely fitting when you take into account Subaru's character. Subaru was someone that had been wearing masks their whole life, and he admitted this episode that this was something that originated from even way before he was transported into this world. While we don't know the intricacies of that just yet, the extent of his breakdown and absolute self-hatred once those masks came off was a pretty solid indicator of just how deeply rooted his problems were. But what does Rem do when Subaru was dealing blows after blows to himself and sinking into a seemingly-bottomless abyss of his own wallowing? She opted to tell him, one at the time, all the good she sees in him and all the things she loved about him -- even down to the smallest things possible that can be disregarded as "not all that" but are ultimately still, Subaru. This also serves as the perfect remedy for all the berating that Subaru went through from just about everyone in the previous episode, it's a nectar of redemption for someone that genuinely thought they were completely worthless in the faces of unsurmountable trials, unforgiving peers, and much-needed self-condemnation -- all in that moment. What good does it do for Subaru that his hands are pretty, his eyes can be soft when he's kind, and he has a good sleeping face? These are all shallow things that serve as nothing to counteract the "rottenness" of his character, but Rem told Subaru all of these miniscule, insignificant parts of him that are ultimately, still him. She used it as an opener to drag Subaru out of his wallowing, to tell him that there are good parts of him that even he himself is unable to see -- starting off with the small things that she found endearing in him at a time when he expressed just how much he hated himself. I also could not stress how perfect this method of expression was because Subaru himself was someone that could see the value in "small things". Remember when Subaru cried to Rem about how proud he was of the fact that he no longer cuts his fingers when helping in the kitchen during the loop where Rem (Ram) killed him? He always seemed to be someone that attributed a lot of value to the smaller, more mundane parts of life and to the small improvements he made one-at-a-time. And so here, by starting off with listing these insignificant parts of Subaru that she still finds value in, Rem is able to later lead into the bigger accomplishments of Subaru during the ulgarm incident within the forest, the stuff that really matters -- and convey to Subaru of all the good she can see in him, even if no one else, not even he himself is capable of seeing it. Subaru is someone that nobody has ever placed expectations on and stuck in a state where not even he himself can believe otherwise. But here, at this very moment, in a twist of fate, the one single genuinely good thing he has done since his time in this world came back to grant him salvation in his lowest moment, in the form of Rem telling him that she thinks of him as her hero — even after all this, especially after all this. The altruism and goodwill Subaru demonstrated to Rem—not just by saving her from the ulgarms in the forest, but also by offering her significant encouragement afterward, so much so that he thawed her frozen time—this one single act of pure kindness, completely untainted, and a job well done by Subaru to someone who had brutally took his life in a misunderstanding in previous loops, planted a seed for his road to salvation. That's the magic happening in this episode, and from here on out, Subaru will embark on a journey to fulfill the expectation and trust that Rem has placed in him. I'll leave you with some insight into one of the story's IF routes, which explores the scenario of 'what if Rem had taken Subaru's hand here and run away with him?' It reminded me a lot of the cabin scene in the finale of Attack on Titan with Eren and Mikasa and adds so much more meaning to the decision Subaru arrived at in this episode with Rem. Thanks again for the reactions, and I'm excited for the start of Subaru's upcoming fight back against fate! * The Sloth IF, otherwise known as the Rem IF, is the single longest IF storyline in ReZero. While the other IFs are mostly only around 30-60 mins of reading, the Rem IF has enough content to fill up a couple volumes -- mainly because the author added chapters to it over the course of several years. * Rem IF explores the story of the events that follow in the event that Rem wasn't strong enough to deny Subaru the option of running away, both out of selfishness and desire to not see him suffer like this anymore. The duo ended up settling down in Kararagi, in a fashion much like what Rem fantasized this episode, where they both abandoned their responsibilities but gained new ones as they struggled to get by. * After the initial job hunting and tumultuous time spent, Subaru and Rem were able to make new connections, friends, and family. It became the story of two broken individuals joining hands together in striving for meaning beyond their past failures. It told the story of how despite the things you did won't ever go away, there can still be good that came even after the originally slothful sin of running away, to the point that Subaru buried his regrets after creating a family with Rem. * But beyond the incredible portrayal of a marriage between two broken individuals, the true gem of this IF was the fact that later -- there was a disaster that caught up to Subaru. And the amazing part was that out of the desire to protect his family and village, Subaru used it as an opportunity to make good on the mistake he and Rem committed in the past by running away. Not only did he face the disaster head-on, but he overcame it with the help of Rem and others -- all the while without dying a single time. * Subaru never used Return by Death a single time again in the Rem IF route -- from the moment he ran away with Rem to growing old with their kids by his side. He learned to face every obstacle that came his way head-on, even after failing the initial hurdle that created this route in the first place. To me, it tells the story of how people can change, and how redemption can be given even to those who missed it at the most crucial time. Despite being labeled the Sloth IF because of Subaru's initial decision, both Subaru and Rem lived in a way that ran counter to anything slothful. That’s why I've always liked to refer to it as the Rem IF, as a reminder of the incredible story it tells and, in my opinion, how it’s the single IF that stands above the others.

Hailan

I don't have much to say on episode 18, it's a great episode, near perfect adaptation o the novels, and I find it interesting that you've recognised Rem as being a little obsessive, despite what she's doing ultiamtely being good. We notice in Arc 2 that Rem always overly praised her sister, Ram, making her out to be this perfect being who could do no wrong. This didn't align with our perception of Ram, she's rude (though funny) and a bit lazy. But Rem's perception was rooted in her own low self-esteem due to her upbringing, compounded by the trauma of the Witch Cult's attack on her village which led to Ram losing her horn. She felt that she needed to compensate, thus giving birth to her obsession. Although her obsession over Subaru does seem to be slightly better than what she had with her sister, it's still clear that she isn't actually tackling the heart of her issues. To me, at least. Now, here is something you'll be hearing a lot in the comments of this episode, so I'll be brief. For a while, on every April 1st (Subaru's birthday), the author of Re:Zero would release a story that takes place in a universe where Subaru makes a different choice at a pivotal moment. These stories also generally reflect one of the Deadly Sins. Sloth IF Is one of these stories, and looks at what would happen if Rem had decided to run away with Subaru during episode 18. This story was then recompiled in a larger volume called Rem IF which was released with the season 1 Blu-Ray's. The gist is that Rem and Subaru start a family in Kararagi, and although things are pretty happy you still get the sense that their issues aren't resolved. Still, much happier than the other IF stories. Now, for some very minor cut content. In episode 19, Subaru uses the mining rights for magic stones in a forest in Roswaal's domain as a bargaining chip. But how does he have the ability to negotiate these rights? In the novels, after her From Zero speech, Rem reveals that Roswaal had given her orders to give Subaru the authority to utilise the mining rights in negotiations should he need it. In episode 12 he also ordered Rem to let Subaru leave their lodgings so that he could enter the palace. I seem to remember the negotiation just generally being a bit more fleshed out in the novels, but hey, an anime can't adapt everything. It's also revealed that Wilhelm has been tracking the White Whale for years, and he has found that there is a pattern where the White Whale will appear in an area where a Witch Cult attack is about to occur. Since everyone knew that the Witch Cult was going to get involved with Emilia, it makes sense that Crusch used this as an opportunity to amass weapons and soldiers. For all my minor gripes about cut content, the anime does add a lot of minor details, some of which even novel readers wouldn't notice. Crusch caressing the emblem on her sword is a reference to a side novel that contains some of her backstory. Minor translation note that I may have talked about in episode 1, but for some reason Crunchyroll translates the Witch of Envy as the Jealous Witch in season 1. It's strange since the Seven Deadly Sins is a very common trope in anime and isekai, and there is a specific Japanese character associated with it. From memory, they do fix it in season two though. Apologies for the long comment, hope you enjoyed the episode. As always, can't wait for the next ones. Hopefully you'll catch up in time to watch the second cour of season 3 as it releases.

Kieran

Well her first boyfriend is kinda like toxic masculinity (even though i hate that term because it is used wrong most of the time) and ken is definitely a positive form being a protector but not there yet. (looking for his balls metaphorically and literally) but i agree to early to tell.

Douglas Davis

Absolutely, I'm hooked at this point. It's basically an endless quest. At first viewing of the courtroom scene I came away from it thinking, wow, so immature, I would never. But then letting it sit a while it became... well maybe a little bit. Maybe not his actions exactly or his specific level, but some similar pattern. It's definitely there. And the temptation is always to think you've "made it" and "that's not me" but it's not a state it's a series of decisions.

Alex G

Yeah Ken's looking for his balls definitely deliberate 😂 But not sure what it has to say yet

Alex G

First of all, as always, great commentary and reaction. Despite being only partway through the series you have a good grasp on what it's going for (in my opinion) and you're able to peel back the layers of the narrative of the show. I can see that you had some mixed feelings on the "from zero" speech, which is very understandable. Is the praise that Rem is giving to Subaru truly what is best for him? Isn't there something else that needs to be said? I can see where you're coming from. What I will say is Re:Zero, at it's core, is a story about deeply flawed people coming to terms with their flaws and building themselves up with the help of their loved ones. It should come as no surprise then that one or two breakdown scenes isn't enough to become fully self actualized and be the best version of you. NO ONE in Re:Zero is anywhere even close to perfect, they don't always say the right thing, and the show trusts you to interpret these moments by yourself. The show trusts you to make these inferences so that you can enjoy the pay off later down the line. The lessons you learn in life aren't always going to be palatable and obvious. Even when you think you've developed as a person, years later you realize that maybe you actually regressed or didn't move as much as you think you did. TLDR; Subaru becoming a better person is a long and winding road, and I hope you trust the show to see it through to the end.

Jordan

And that is why Rem is best girl and will always be best girl. I was in a very dark place when this came out, and of all the great lines in this episode the lines "you really don't mind that it's me?" and "I want it to be you." really hit hard and helped me through. Also are you getting any semblance of a theme for dan da dan? There is the psychology and social jungle of high school but, I'm getting a lot of subtext on masculinity.

Douglas Davis

I had a lot I wanted to say. A little overwhelmed with work right now, but glad you've made it to where Rem says the thing. :) Not sure how much of a difference it makes in the viewing experience, but I enjoy how every major character in the story speaks with a different dialect or distinct speech pattern. Anastasia speaks in a kind of imitation Kansai-ben, since that's the business stereotype. Priscilla uses "warawa" as a first person pronoun, which is very old, old Japanese royalty speech. Krusch speaks like a samurai era general, saying things like keii for "you." At first, I was really bothered by how Subaru speaks incredibly informally and rudely to everyone and gets no reaction for it. It took me out of the story, but then as it went on, I was like, oh... everyone in this whole world speaks with super strong idiosyncrasies. If everyone in the whole world has their own speech habits like that, Subaru's would actually kind of fit in. ... and maybe that's a sub point? Anyway.... enjoy haha

Ryan

I said this in a YouTube comment as well but one of my favorite parts of watching this show so far is hearing how much it means to others and how it's helped them

Alex G

It was honest. The timing was amazing though 😂

Alex G

A lot of people seem to hate Subaru for that scene, maybe the timing of "I love Emilia" was a bit bad, but 1. Rem already knew that 2. She was trying to help snap him to his senses, and she succeeded. That's how I view that scene anyway. It was Subaru finally admitting "Ok you're right, I don't want to run away with you, I want to do what I can for Emilia"

Plasma Lemon

And here we are. From Zero. This episode is iconic, famous, all the buzz words. And for good reason I’d say. It’s a step. A true, real step forward. For Subaru, and for the story as a whole. The way in which Subaru breaks down is so relatable to me personally, and at the time I watched it, was mirroring a lot of the same things I was going through. But like you said, he hasn’t all of a sudden changed completely. These things take time. Steps forward, steps backward, sideways, etc. The whole thing is messy, yet beautiful. And while it frustrated a lot of people when it came out, I truly do understand why Subaru rejects Rem, and I think it’s perfect narratively. Rem is also still going through her own struggles as well, and even though Subaru really needed this, it’s not perfect, and what does Rem still need? And this really goes for all the characters in this story. We’ve been following Subaru, his perspective, his faults, his insecurities. But all, and I mean all, of the characters are going through shit that causes them to be assholes, lash out, and be the way they are. The direction, music, and voice acting for this ep are all immaculate. The fact they were able to make pure conversation on a rooftop as engaging as it was is a feat. And now, time for some Whale. Really appreciate your thoughts, and super excited for the next episodes as usual.

Vali Sippola

This episode is unironically the reason I'm finally seeing a therapist and seeking psychiatric help for my depression after just suffering through the past 10 years of ages 17-27.

Plasma Lemon

Peak zero day!!! Thanks for the content i look for to it all day.

Aukar frank


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