What means “a complete game” for you?
Added 2024-09-28 01:39:14 +0000 UTCHey FreshMen,
I’m wondering what means a complete game for you:
- Is it a game that will not longer be updated?
- Is it a game that has a proper start, middle, climax and epilogue and the main plot was solved? (A sequel might be created years later)
- Or another definition?
This will help me understand what you look for in a “complete game”
Comments
complete game means that the game starts, introduces plots and closes all the plots. You can create Game 2 and introduce a whole new plot (w/ probably a change in scenario and new characters). Otherwise add a new plot in a DLC. I’m thinking of something like Elden Ring, where the game has a clear end yet you can move to DLC map and more adventures and an specific ending.
FerGV
2024-10-03 19:09:53 +0000 UTCThere is only one right answer a proper start, middle and end. There have been tons of people who have started making games that just out right disappear or just give up on their games. I mean 2 that just come off the top of my head are lockheart and Prometheus. Just because they gave up on their stories effectively giving the finger to all the people that supported them does not by any means, mean that they have a finished game or story. Claiming that just because a game is no longer updated means it is finished, is like reading a book just to find out the author did not care enough to finish the story and only wrote half a book.
hideki423
2024-10-03 04:31:50 +0000 UTCBesides that, It feels a bit strange to see updates for "all" games and not "the one" I am playing... it adds to this feeling of incompleteness.
David van Lochem
2024-10-01 11:47:09 +0000 UTCStart, middle and continue till MC is either dead from old age or continue on with the MCs children and so on and so forth if the story would remain interesting by doing so…
Mike Glasser
2024-09-30 12:49:57 +0000 UTCFor your type of games, I feel a start, middle, climax and epilogue fits the bill as a complete game.
David J. Thompson
2024-09-30 02:00:49 +0000 UTCexample: A Wife At Stake - You can find them on F95zone.to where games are reviewed. Can see partially finished, complete and abandoned.
Paul P
2024-09-29 23:39:45 +0000 UTCHey, Paul P. Where can I find these Abandoned games to understand what happened to them?
OppaiMan
2024-09-29 19:36:21 +0000 UTCIn the context of the adult visual novels that you make, "complete game" would mean: 1) Getting to know and explore the sexual fantasies of the different characters in the game; and 2) Having an overarching plot for the game and the MC that has a start, middle, climax and epilogue. A sequel might be created years later when a new plot requires some of the cast of characters for the first game to meet again.
Emanuel Monteagudo Flahaut
2024-09-29 13:30:08 +0000 UTCAs with any well written book; a beginning, middle and end. Prologues and epilogues as the writer determines and no 'seasons' to complete the story.
IbeGenedammit!
2024-09-28 20:35:09 +0000 UTCAn adult visual novel transcends the boundaries of a mere "game" or "novel". In my perspective, it represents the pinnacle of storytelling challenges. Above all, its audience consists solely of adults, anticipating and craving adult content. My criteria for rating are as follows: 1. Immersive and enthralling (does the narrative resonate with my emotions, dark desires, forbidden fantasies, personal preferences, and fetishes?) 2. Exceptional animations/renders 3. The pacing (does it transition seamlessly from one mode to another? Is there an excessively long introduction before adult content?) (too long & I'm asking for a refund) While a sequel is acceptable, it should not necessitate familiarity with the preceding visual novel. It should be capable of standing on its own merit. Whether a spin-off or sequel, it should introduce fresh, unfamiliar, and captivating elements. Gameplay can retain familiarity, but variety is the key to enriching experiences. Despite being relatively new to the genre, I have already acquired over 100 titles. Among them, "A Leap of Faith" remains my favorite adult visual novel, as it took me on an immersive journey through a compelling story rather than just a game. In the future, I foresee a best seller having all the following qualities addressed. 1. Its outstanding storyline takes me on an emotional rollercoaster 2. Continuous animations with AI voice-overs 3. Numerous choices with unpredictable endings 4. A balance of grind and reward, fast and slow pace portions, and up and downs 5. All the expected feature norms (ie. auto-scroll, music, and background sounds) I am willing to pay AAA game prices for a Visual Novel that meets or exceeds these aspects, along with giving me 50+ hours of unrepeated gameplay. Then, repeated gameplay is a much-welcomed addition.
Chazz R
2024-09-28 19:49:06 +0000 UTCAs you are using already seasons in your game, we can compare it with a TV or anime serie. The story has opening, middle, some twist and turn, ending and an epilogue. No sequels, but you can use spin-offs. Look at Friends and the spin-off Joe (not successful), Arrow and the spin-off Flash, Cheers ans the spin-off Frasier, etc. So take one or some of your favorite side/minor character and make a new game, it can be in the same city or moved to a new one, with some little reference here and there with the original game.
Etienne Rosel
2024-09-28 15:37:01 +0000 UTCI wouldn’t say no further development is allowed nor would I say no sequels. To me a “completed” game has appropriate length to not feel rushed. Reaches a logical and not forced stopping point and requires no further development on the main story. Absolutely fine with side quests/characters or extra features added. Sequels are tricky but not impossible. In my view for a game to be “completed” but with sequels it needs to work without the sequels too. Perfectly fine returning to the same universe with the same characters but it shouldn’t be required to resolve the events of the first game otherwise they are multiple chapters/seasons of one game.
Ben
2024-09-28 14:35:35 +0000 UTCFor me its a game that has a proper start, middle, climax and epilogue and the main plot was solved? (A sequel might be created years later)
Fantasy-Grey
2024-09-28 11:59:57 +0000 UTCFor me it’s Is it a game that has a proper start, middle, climax and epilogue and the main plot was solved? (A sequel might be created years later), I don’t mind if it needs updates afterwards to fix bugs or add optional extra content. A game that doesn’t meet that first requirement and is no longer receiving updates in not a “completed game” in is an unfinished game that has been abandoned.
Ben Miles
2024-09-28 09:56:12 +0000 UTCI expect it to be of a decent length and have a start, middle and end. Don't mind if it ends with a hint of a sequel. What I dislike is the number of games on here (Patreon and on Itchio) that are abandoned. If you are going to do a job, do it properly or don't do it at all. Plus it's ripping off the punters. Perhaps if people lose their passion they could have a site where other developers can pick up the mantle, rather like when writers finish off unfinished manuscripts.
Paul P
2024-09-28 09:05:41 +0000 UTCThe term "complete game" is often used when people complain about a game they consider "incomplete." However, the phrase itself is vague, as it can mean almost anything due to its wide range of definitions. In my opinion, a more effective way to predict or ensure the success of a game—or any product—is through proper expectation management. It's crucial to consider what expectations were set by the developers or the marketing and whether those expectations were ultimately fulfilled. Expectation management plays a key role in delivering a successful product, yet it is often underutilized throughout the process. A well-known example is "No Man’s Sky," where expectations soared, leading to widespread disappointment at launch. The YouTube channel "Internet Historian" produced an insightful video titled "The Engoodening of No Man's Sky," which thoroughly examines this situation. So option C
DocSchnabel
2024-09-28 05:16:04 +0000 UTCOption b
Jacopo Mondini
2024-09-28 04:54:02 +0000 UTCproper start, middle, climax and epilogue and the main plot was solved NO SEQUEL
Smokey
2024-09-28 03:36:00 +0000 UTCA completed product with a beginning, middle, end and any possible extra content. Updates are still necessary, but with no additional fee. Quite simply, a product that is "feature complete." There is nothing more to add of necessity.
TheGrimLord
2024-09-28 03:03:44 +0000 UTCa complete game could possibly receive updates/fixes but just as you said, a game that has a proper start, middle, climax and epilogue and the main plot was solved. complete. preferable one with multiple individual Li paths and unique endings over a harem. thats just my preference.
Merlinous
2024-09-28 02:55:07 +0000 UTCAs you said "Is it a game that has a proper start, middle, climax and epilogue and the main plot was solved? (A sequel might be created years later)"
THOMAS E BIRD
2024-09-28 02:49:06 +0000 UTCOption B
Bill Riley
2024-09-28 02:08:54 +0000 UTCI believe with option b is what it means to have a completed game. But like others have said dlcs can just new things that are nice to be added
Kyle Murton
2024-09-28 02:02:36 +0000 UTCOption B
Gawaain
2024-09-28 02:02:12 +0000 UTCComplete game would probably be defined as the main antagonist completing the main story of the game. Side content and 100% would not count towards this
Lucas Mathew
2024-09-28 01:50:46 +0000 UTCOption b
Keith Brown
2024-09-28 01:47:09 +0000 UTCWhen there is no longer a need to add more content in order to finish a games intended gameplay or story. DLC and patches being an exception. Though an argument can be made for games being in seasons as the main story is incomplete, but it completes its intended storytelling goals.
VainfulOcelot
2024-09-28 01:44:31 +0000 UTCThe second option, for me: "a game that has a proper start, middle, climax and epilogue and the main plot was solved? (A sequel might be created years later)"
Roberto Faria
2024-09-28 01:42:39 +0000 UTCIs it a game that will not longer be updated Is it a game that has a proper start, middle, climax and epilogue and the main plot was solved (A sequel might be created years later)
Saniya
2024-09-28 01:41:55 +0000 UTCFor me: "a game that has a proper start, middle, climax and epilogue and the main plot was solved? (A sequel might be created years later)"
Zac
2024-09-28 01:41:13 +0000 UTC