This is also why “let’s just reintegrate all of the innies!” is also not the tidy solution to the problem the severance procedure created. Beyond the practical issues (does it actually work? Is it physically possible to have two separate consciousness “stitched together” in a way that doesn’t cause a permanent mental breakdown?) Forced reintegration has its own set of moral implications and would need to involve both innies and outties consenting to alleviate some of them.
Random Random
2025-07-27 19:08:29 +0000 UTC
I think the conversation between Bert, Irving and Fields over dinner is super interesting and worth considering. When people get severed, they are literally creating a separate consciousness. They have a shared biology because they share a body, but they have 2 separate consciousnesses. This is how both the innies and the outties typically see each other, which is what makes the mistreatment of the innies so horrible. Eric is right that the innies are real human beings in a real human body, but depending how you look at it, you could argue that he is also unintentionally minimizing the wholeness of their experience. You cannot fully recognize and address the injustice being done to the innies until you learn to see them as whole people with their own personalities, their own rights, and their own consciousness. They deserve to be treated as whole people, and deserve to have experiences as such, because they did not ask to be created or put into this hellish situation.
ChipHand_Z
2025-07-27 08:40:16 +0000 UTC
Even aside from the nature/nurture questions of who they really are (which as you say is a core question of the show), they have distinct autonomy. That makes them separate. This is pretty clearly illustrated by the whole Helly/Helena/Mark dilemma explored in this ep.
Helly R
2025-07-26 23:48:28 +0000 UTC
I know it's the point of the show to induce these kind of discussions but it really is interesting to get this far into the show and still think the innies and outies are not separate people. They have different wants, desires, motivations, attachments, life experiences, religious/worldview beliefs, and very importantly, completely different nurturing which is so fundamental to developing who YOU are, despite sharing the same DNA or organs.
Which is why reintegration, imo, does kill the two individuals. If Innie would react to situation A with X reaction and Outie would react to situation A with Y reaction, then how does their reintegrated self react to situation A? And why would that reaction be more real than Innie or Outie's different response?