Ugh
Added 2024-08-12 13:49:00 +0000 UTCAs if things weren't fucked enough... This is from Patreon:
"Hey,
Apple is requiring that Patreon use their in-app purchasing system and remove all other billing systems from the Patreon iOS app by November 2024. This means that starting in November, new memberships purchased in the iOS app will be subject to Apple's 30% App Store fee.
You're currently on a first-of-the-month billing model, but Apple's in-app purchase system only supports subscription billing. Apple has made clear that if creators on Patreon continue to use unsupported billing models or disable transactions in the iOS app, we will be at risk of having the entire app removed from their App Store.
So, starting in November, your fans in the iOS app won't be able to purchase subscriptions to your membership until you switch to subscription billing. And, as a result of Apple's mandates and in order to make sure that you can continue getting new members in the iOS app, we've started a 16-month-long migration process to bring all creators onto subscription billing by November 2025. This means that your current billing model will be discontinued in November 2025.
We want to give you all of the tools and information you need to navigate this change in the least disruptive way possible.
To help you keep growing across all platforms, we're going to automatically switch you over to subscription billing in November 2024.
Once you're on subscription billing, you can control how Apple's fee is applied. You can either maintain your earnings by setting a higher price for new memberships purchased in the iOS app (default) or absorb the App Store fee yourself. Remember: the Apple fee only applies to new memberships purchased in the iOS app.
You can delay the migration to subscription billing by choosing to in your settings. The deadline to delay the migration to subscription billing is November 1, 2024.
If you delay, you'll be able to stay on your current billing model until November 2025, but Apple's mandate still applies. Come November 2024, your fans won't be able to purchase memberships in the iOS app until you switch to subscription billing.
We want to do absolutely everything we can to make sure that these changes are as smooth as possible for you, your fans, and your business. We didn't choose this path, but we're focusing our resources on making subscription billing an even better experience for creators and fans. This will take time and we're committed to making it happen for every creator. In the coming months, expect to hear more from us as we bring together communities of creators on first-of-the-month billing to talk about migration tips, keep you up-to-date with reminders and notifications, and share more resources to support you through the billing model change. We'll be in touch soon. "
Comments
Holy shit this is predatory on Apple’s part… It’s one thing to demand Patreon use their in house system on the IOS app, it’s another to force the entire website/non-IOS apps to switch to their arbitrarily preferred billing cycle.
SirNameV
2024-08-13 21:20:03 +0000 UTCAnother reason why I don't have an iPhone. And Patreon looks weak by not standing up to Apple.
GentlemanPlayer
2024-08-12 22:21:25 +0000 UTCthat actually sounds like apple is once again using their monopoly on their platform to bully people into locking into their own eco system... which I think they've already been in trouble for in the EU...
Doomchild
2024-08-12 15:35:15 +0000 UTCSums it up pretty well.
Jeremy Bernal
2024-08-12 14:18:19 +0000 UTCSo what Patreon is saying is that "Hey we're not going to stand up to Apple and this ridiculous requirement. We would prefer to leave the creators and their supporters out to dry and drive them off the platform to other sites that might not be as easy to use but give the creators more freedom."
Rox79
2024-08-12 14:04:07 +0000 UTCI wonder if they could cheat them by making it so you could only look at your patreon on ios app. All purchases would have to be done on a web browser.
Alexander79
2024-08-12 13:57:26 +0000 UTCAnother reason why apple sucks
tyler j halbach
2024-08-12 13:57:12 +0000 UTC