Mushoku Tensei S2 Episodes 23 + 24 - Traditions Worth Keeping
Added 2024-09-10 02:57:14 +0000 UTCA heavy sword to bear alone...
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Also, Sylfie does call Norn out on her bullshit in the LN. She does not say "its all fine, thank you for speaking for me." I can't recall the exact line rn though it basically is what Tee said Sylfie should have told Norn.
Doodlegame
2024-09-10 23:39:09 +0000 UTCBtw, your new hair makes it look like you have droopy dog ears lol.
Doodlegame
2024-09-10 22:31:38 +0000 UTCOur strength as humans is our adaptability. No matter the circumstances or obstacles in our way, and regardless of complexity, given enough time, we will be able to overcome it and be better at it than anything else in the universe (that we can observe) if we put in the right effort!
Doodlegame
2024-09-10 21:26:37 +0000 UTCI’ve edited it to be a little less declaratory and provide a source for the statement. That particular part was based on a psychologist’s actual analysis. His YouTube and twitch are called Psyculturist and I highly recommend watching his breakdowns of the psychology involved in Mushoku Tensei. Tee has recommended his channel previously as well.
Paul
2024-09-10 13:18:45 +0000 UTCHey! I don't disagree with most of your broader analysis here, but as someone with a passing familiarity with the clinical literature I just wanted to point out that this specific claim > If you talk to a psychologist, they'd be first to tell you that sex is often used for and is quite successful at helping people who are grieving. is a bit of an oversimplification. There's no real professional consensus on the interplay between sexual intimacy and the grieving process, and practicing clinicians would likely tell you that the efficacy of sexual activity as a grief management mechanism varies significantly based on the individual and the circumstances. Sex can sometimes help, but it can sometimes lead to further complications, especially if the grieving party is vulnerable at the time. This makes it a somewhat risky approach that most clinicians would hesitate to broadly recommend. Of course, you might already be aware of this! I just wanted to make sure that people reading through your comment don't come away with the wrong idea about what psychologists are or aren't likely to recommend as a coping strategy for grief.
David
2024-09-10 09:14:57 +0000 UTCW comment
Eternalize
2024-09-10 09:11:58 +0000 UTCI'm overjoyed you came back, Tee, this evening I can finally binge the last eight episodes of mushoku (i save the discussions for when I do my jogs or do the dishes :) ) Hope you've recharged your batteries a little; to me a creative mind needs to break the routine from time to time, so when you need some time for yourself, don't fret it. We're here for the long run!
menelito
2024-09-10 07:47:20 +0000 UTCMy thoughts below for these episodes were mostly based on how a lot of reactors misunderstood the internal struggles and motivations of the characters. The studio doesn't hand hold us viewers, they give us plenty of breadcrumbs to piece together the scenes from the source that they've cut. Nothing they show us is without a meaning and purpose. Understanding why characters make decisions, isn't the same as agreeing with the decisions made by characters. Tee is much more open-minded and empathetic than some. Some make a "Roxy raped Rudy" declaration. They figure since Roxy told Rudy that she took advantage of him, then the motivation and action were solely because of her selfish desires. Ulterior motives were present, yes, but the main purpose of sex was to pull Rudy out of a death spiral. He hadn't eaten in a week and barely drank enough water to stay alive. Some context Roxy alluded to was that the whole group got together and talked about how they could save Rudy from this. Elinalise expressed how she had rescued many adventures from grief using sex. If you check out Psyculturist’s analysis(a psychologist streamer), he mentions that sex is often used for and can sometimes succeed at helping people who are grieving. Particularly in Rudy’s case. Rudy wasn't exaggerating, Roxy saved him. I don't disagree with the argument that there might've been another, better way to pull Rudy out of it. This world is a medieval setting, and the characters believe psychological issues to be curses. The only thing they could think of to save him was sex, which did succeed, even if it was morally grey. Next, Tee also showed anger towards this. I understand the initial disgust about having the discussion with the whole family present. Rudy has only ever experienced this type of situation once, during his childhood, when Lilia let the entire family know at the dinner table that she was pregnant. Zenith, then had the discussion about Lilia with everyone still in the room. This included Rudy, who was 5 or 6 at the time, while Norn and Aisha are 11 or 12. I don't recall anyone being as upset with Zenith or Lilia for talking about this issue with Rudy present. They even allowed him to influence the decisions made. Adding a person into the household is considered a discussion for the whole family. That is why Rudy did it this way. Now onto another issue, most are hard internalizing Rudy's thoughts on his "promise" to Sylphy. He didn't say what people think he did, and even Rudy thinks that he promised something he didn't. The dialogue in the episode was S-"If, um, I can't manage to have kids, you could always get a concubine." R-"I'll do no such thing. What I want isn't children, it's the fruit of love with someone I cherish. I love you, Sylphy." His promise, in Sylphy's eyes is not that he would only love her and that he'd stay faithful. It was that he wouldn't take a concubine to have kids and that he only wants the fruit of love with someone he cherishes. Him taking another "wife", especially Roxy, isn't at odds with that statement from Sylphy's perspective. Internally, Rudy turns this conversation into a stay faithful promise. At the time, he didn't even think he could love someone else. This does mean he broke a promise to himself and he should feel bad for that, but that doesn't actually involve Sylphy in the same way Rudy or most reactors believed. Lastly, some thought we saw none of Sylphy's perspective. There was more than most noticed. First some context. Sylphy's main worry was that someone better than her would come along, and Rudy would leave her for the better option. With that in mind, when Rudy says he'd like to invite Roxy into "our" home as his "second" wife we see her jaw drop a bit. She was surprised/relieved that he wanted to add Roxy to their home, not leave or replace her for Roxy. Next, he describes how he was in a death spiral and that Roxy saved him from it. Roxy was surprised that he realized this. Remember, she tried to make him blame her for everything by saying she did it for her own selfish gain, rather than emphasize the more nuanced reason. You then see Sylphy's eyes widen. This internalizes for Sylphy that Roxy saved Rudy when she couldn't be there for him. When Sylphy stops Roxy from walking off she mentions that her jealousy is gone now that she knows the "Only mage he looks up too" is just another girl like her, not a perfect being Sylphy could never come close to. Sylphy also mentions that if she was in Roxy's place, she would've done the same thing Roxy did. Even if it meant hurting Rudy's wife, Sylphy would have prioritized saving his life over all else. And finally she says she welcomes Roxy and that they should support Rudy together. This relates back to how Roxy saved Rudy when Sylphy couldn't be there. Now she's welcoming Roxy to help care for Rudy's well-being, to cover for any shortcomings there might be. Whether it's physical safety, emotional connection, sexual needs, or any other support. I'd be happy if any of my thoughts/explanations gave anyone a new perspective.
Paul
2024-09-10 04:41:23 +0000 UTCYEEEEEEEESIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIR
reignyoma
2024-09-10 04:14:18 +0000 UTCWelcome back and arigatoful, I was having a boring night until now!
AndrewMV
2024-09-10 04:10:28 +0000 UTCBeen waiting for this all week. Glad you feel better though 😌
ChunniTensei
2024-09-10 03:52:24 +0000 UTCHope you’re feeling better, much love! Glad that you’re back
smth positive_
2024-09-10 03:12:28 +0000 UTC
