Mushoku Tensei Season 2 Episode 11 Early Access
Added 2023-09-21 03:27:54 +0000 UTCgaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay :)
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It could also be read as Rudy getting subtle unconscious feelings of familiarity from Fitz which remind him of a certain girl he knows, so when he is presented with the possibility of him falling in love with this supposedly male character who behaves in a oddly familiar manner, he comes to question if this person really is male, since the person he knows was a girl, though this is still kinda a bias. I think the lack of questioning Fitz being a boy by the rest of the student body could also come down to people being to afraid to approach the subject as she is a dangerous individual with powerful allies, who might harm them if they get too nosy. Also, Sylfie/Fitz does not talk much with the other students at school, so her more feminine behaviors just aren't shown to other people much. Then of course there is the Ariel stuff with Fitz being allowed in the female dorm and such. Just felt like presenting some counterpoints to this idea of it being a internalization of homophobia on Rudy's part. It certainly isn't an absurd way to read it though.
Doodlegame
2024-11-15 03:16:41 +0000 UTCBefore watching your reaction to episode 10, I also got a very weird feeling from Rudy's behavior. First, I got the obvious feeling (I thought it was obvious) of Rudy immediately thinking of Fitz (Sylphie) as a way to solve his ED. Along with this, I had noticed that Rudy had consistently stood firm in saying that he does not swing that way, but continued to have deeper and more connective feelings towards Fitz (Sylphie). The logical conclusion, the one that I assume most people writing a character would come to, is for Rudy to question if his sexuality is entirely accurate, and that maybe he's interested in feminine men as well as women. Instead, we get a complete rejection of the idea. Now, this could have been explained through a more reasonable approach, maybe some flashback or explanation within the show that conveyed how Rudy was averse to homosexuality in his past life, or maybe they could have had an entire episode or chapter in which Rudy overcomes his latent homophobia and realizes that he likes men as well as women. There are many ways that this could have been approached besides shutting out the idea with a brick wall of "Is this person actually a girl?". And sure, Fitz (Sylphie) looks very gender neutral and it is difficult to tell from an outside perspective if she is a boy or a girl, but literally nobody questions if she is or isn't. They all accept that she is a boy, and if everyone else thinks nothing of it, that should be consistent. The only one that questions it is Rudy, it would make sense for homophobia to come from Rudy's world and for it to be addressed as so, but it turns out that the meta went even further, allowing the reader/viewer to peek into the authors own biases. Rudy's actions were not that of someone who is open to the idea of exploring their own sexuality, rather, it was the actions of someone who can't even fathom the idea. Due to this being completely unexplained, with no context of why Rudy is like this, it feels as though the author expects this to be the normal reaction, making me question if the author is open to questioning his own sexuality. Coming to these conclusions is completely reasonable with the information given. You're not crazy here.
BitTripBoy
2023-09-25 06:50:06 +0000 UTCThis isn't moving the goalposts, it's what I said from the outset. I didn't remember the term "internalized homophobia" but it is commonly used and I used it as such.
Teeaboo
2023-09-22 21:31:04 +0000 UTCThing is Tee, it is objectively and falsely moving the goalposts to allow the terms homophobia and heternormative to be used in this way interchangeably, rather than allowing them to purely identify separate and distinct thought and action patterns, Internalized or otherwise.
FULONGAMER aka Johannes Bowers
2023-09-22 03:34:25 +0000 UTCI think it's a definition thing, many many people seem unfamiliar with the usage of "Internalized homophobia" or the soft usage of homophobia as essentially heteronormativity, which is pretty common in american-left circles and academic circles afaik. Clearly has not spread far beyond there. Explains why there are so many commenters saying the homophobia thing seems totally out of left field - it does if homophobia in your parlance means like... murder, bullying, attacks, outward hatred.
Teeaboo
2023-09-22 02:44:03 +0000 UTCcommenting before the reaction, but I absolutley 100% agree with you Tea here on Rudy's internalized homophobia. I feel like most of the commentors saying "no thats not homophobia! hes just shocked he would be in love with a guy after being straight his whole life!" are literally showing their own internalized homophobia and dont realize thats exactly what that means. The idea of internalized homophobia, racism, transphobia, etc. is that *you cant easily recognize it in yourself because its internalized*. Self-identified and actualized LGBTQ people also have internalized phobia because thats just how our society is structured. It takes an external perspective (such as Tea deeply analyzing your words and behaviours) to show you what your internalized phobia looks like. I really appreciate you sticking hard on your stance on that there, there are many folks that will take any excuse to say they arent phobic in any way because they are afraid of being persecuted for it, but its important to recognize that a person shouldnt be immediately villified for internalized phobia, only active externalized phobia.
Nora Murren
2023-09-21 19:28:29 +0000 UTCPretty sure even though Sylphy told them about the bullying cause of hair color she never told them her hair used to be green. Probably why Luke is so certain Rudy forgot her. Who could forget their white-haired elf childhood friend? Sylphy tends to not share things that donβt directly pertain to Ariel unless asked. A simple thing like my hair changed colors isnβt exactly important info to Sylphy regarding Ariel. Also some source material readers are upset about the gloves scene. The studio changed how Rudy realized it was Sylphy. When the gloves came off he saw her burn scars on her palms and recognized her that way. I personally like the glasses and face reveal and being called Rudy instead of Rudeus as the final nail in the coffin. You do see her burn scars when she takes the glove off to cast the storm spell. 14:18 during the episode. I wonder since they purposely showed the scar even though they cut the scene during Sylphy's childhood if it'll still be used for a plot point later. They even showed the scars in Season 1 episode 3 when Rudy is washing the mud out of her hair after shooing the bullies.
Paul
2023-09-21 05:04:42 +0000 UTCThank you π!
Jan Dward
2023-09-21 03:30:24 +0000 UTC
