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Wonder Man 1x03/1x04 Full Reaction!

Wonder Man 1x03/1x04 Full Reaction!

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The dueling monologues/monologue bonding is definitely a real thing. Or you have like how my brother and I quote our secret handshake films back and forth. Forgot to mention the subtext of Trevor quoting Salieri, but yes, it’s very certainly deliberate. Subconscious for Trevor, but the writers knew what they were doing. If she hasn’t seen it, we do need to get Jess to react to it; I think I put it in the queue a while back. I knew in advance that Ben was in Iron Man 3 as the ads heavily promoted him as the Mandarin. I can see how your dad would think it was Murray in the film, so that’s now a wonderful bit of irony. Trevor’s reaction to Khonshu would be hilarious. Love reactions to that part of Clue, and good nod. Yeah, I figured you’d be feeling things as well with this episode. This show is obscene with that. That was a good moment when Simon giving his cousins enough rope before sounding like Jack Lemmon letting James Garner know, “Oh, hey, by the way, hablo el español muy bien. Dickhead.” (Hat’s off if you know that reference without having to google it.) Behind on The Pitt, so can’t speak to that one. The concern of the needles sounds bad, and I imagine worse than M*A*S*H which though there, it isn’t terribly graphic for the most part. Heard the same about Eric being a comic villain. Which does certainly add subtext to his “But not our Simon, couldn’t be precious Simon!” style dialogue. Fair point on the confusion as to how much Eric knows about Simon’s powers. As to the food porn, I’m seeing that film next week. Greatly looking forward to it. And the next episode, I’ve never seen that movie, but google aids in clocking the rather sly reference of yours. Nicely done. Show does some good work in getting us invested in DeMarr in such a short time. Penn’s quote is well utilized. DeMarr never does seem to try to be a pathfinder for a new way and is stuck in the rut. Guess he picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue. And the cookies... Yeah, I’d share that response. I recall you spoke of the time you did reacting. The way you describe it sounds like I’d be bad at it if I was solo. Say I ever get married or have a girlfriend and she was wanting to do reacting, I could see having better luck in a sort of Nikki and Steven style. Solo, I’d be on the wall of the disasters of the Chicago Fire, the Hindenburg, Dukakis, and the other paintings in the place that Frank Drebin was at. How you say, “limited Patreon budget” is a big reason why I don’t support more people. Jess is the best, and same here, what you said of, “stuck with permanently because I do get so much more out of the whole thing”. There are those on youtube that I do really like. You said OGB, and I agree Sam is great. Nikki and Steven are very good. I rather like Angela of funnylilgalreacts. Again, Jess is the best. I can understand the Artemis Fowl response. Hell of a horrible accomplishment that Josh Gad has of singlehandedly making an Ianucci show just about unwatchable. Personally, I’m somewhat lukewarm to Josh Gad. He’s in that cluster of actors that fine if they’re in something, I just wouldn’t go out of my way to see the film or show because of him. DiCaprio and Tom Cruise are in the similar boat of them being in a movie won’t kill it, but I am going to need additional incentive to see what they’re in. Chalamet has joined that group. Which is above guys like Adam Sandler whom after the double whammy of Jack and Jill and That’s My Boy. I’m permanently done with him going forward. (Say his films pop up here, I’ll still watch, I just won’t be happy about it.) Closest I got to the response you have to Josh Gad was that goddamn twenty-minute Olaf short film before Coco, and even there, it was more it sunk the Frozen franchise, and the hate for Olaf reached irreversible levels. Best part of the whole thing was that my younger cousins were no happier about the thing than I was, so I was allowed to be a curmudgeonly grump as much as I wanted to be. That and we all really loved Coco. This taking up a whole episode, I mean it did mean one whole episode without Trevor. That aside, this was great, so it balanced out.

Thomas Corp

Iron Fist Season 2: "We heard your complaints, and we swear this one is better." And it genuinely is, though it's also hard not to feel like the crew already knew the Netflix MCU was on the way out. But nice that they snuck an out of nowhere Matt Foley reference in there. The Bunuel mention gives me an opening to rant about how the Original Screenplay winners includes one of the most nauseatingly self-indulgent movies I've ever seen, Midnight in Paris. Two hours of the writer and director saying "If I could go back to the 1920s, all the great artists of the time would love me and my work. Oh, and I understand The Exterminating Angel way better than Bunuel did." The really great thing is I can be as nasty as I want despite it being such an acclaimed movie, because no one's going to say "Why do you have to be so mean to poor, sweet Woody Allen who never hurt anyone?" I'd go with How to Steal a Million. Cleary Wyler slumming it with a commercial product so he can have money for the things he really wants to do, but he just can't help making it real quality. Plus it means he and John Williams got to work together, so how can you turn that down? (and how sweet is it that Spielberg is now an EGOT because of a movie all about puffing up his best friend?)

Ryan

Very lovely to start off this one with dueling monologues, which I've seen several actors comment is a real thing they do together. And I'm sure it's deliberate, though maybe just subconsciously, that Trevor decides to quote a guy who pretends to be someone's friend while actually working to destroy him. And it's especially amusing for me, since when my dad first watched Iron Man 3, the hair, sunglasses, and accent obscured Ben enough that his immediate response was "Is that F. Murray Abraham?" I also can't help thinking it'll get pretty weird if Trevor for some reason ever hears the voice of Khonshu (Henry Fonda never did any comic book characters, awesome as that would have been, so the joke has to end there). And much as he loves Belinda Carlisle, I'm rather more partial to her bandmate's little ditty: "I am your singing telegr-" For the rest of the episode, my social anxiety was through the roof so I can't be entirely sure of anything I experienced. Though I really appreciated Simon giving his cousins enough rope to hang themselves with before revealing he spoke the language, reminiscent of how after an entire season of The Pitt, one of the students casually reveals she's understood the nurses' Tagalog conversations the whole time (incredible show, but not very suited to you since as you can probably guess, there's a LOT of needle stuff). I've gathered from the fan conversation that Eric is actually a supervillain in the comics, which certainly helps explain his going full Chuck McGill through this whole thing. Though I'm actually confused about just how much he knows about Simon's powers. He talks about the stove incident like he still thinks it was just a mundane accident, but then he reacts to the super punch to the counter with just mild exasperation like he's not surprised by the powers at all. Also some quality food porn, definitely Linda Liddle level. On to the next episode, or as I like to call it, "You may have power now, but you're not god. You're a doorman! Doorman! Doorman! Doorman!" And it's quite impressive how many layers they're able to give this guy in just half an hour, letting us sympathize with him while also seeing the ways he brought this on himself. Most of all, I kept going back to Penn Jilette's saying about how the value of a magic show is that you know it's fake somehow. So if the only act a guy has is something you know is genuinely supernatural, what's the entertainment supposed to be? But he seemingly never even tries to move beyond that, even latching on to a catchphrase seemingly designed to become annoying as quickly as possible, instead of something like "You really think you're better than me, don't you?" And doing a skit with Slick Slymopovitch, seeker of adventure doesn't help much either. Plus, once he said no cookie was better than a mediocre one, I had to reply "We are very different people, sir." Oh, that doomscrolling the comments got me too. I tried my hand at reacting for a while, and it turned out my face just doesn't naturally move that much while watching things, which I tried to make up for by voicing my thoughts more, but there were still so many people saying how dull it was that it just didn't seem worth it after a couple months. I'm much more comfortable just writing directly. And I'll just say here, my limited Patreon budget often slips around different reactors who I try out and then move on from even if I generally like their stuff, because it's just not worth the money more than what I can get on their free material. And you're one of the few I've stuck with permanently because I do get so much more out of the whole thing (the others are OGB Reacts and Not So Average Fangirl). Artemis Fowl was pretty much the end for me regarding Josh Gad, and ever since I've just been on the side of Hercule Poirot: "I am equally disappointed in you." He even singlehandedly made an Armando Ianucci show just about unwatchable, even with Hugh Laurie balancing him out. So I can't feel too bad about what happens here, at least enough to rise above the general level of "Am I supposed to recognize these people, or are they just fake MCU characters?" that I had through the whole thing. Not sure how much this story was really worth devoting a whole episode of a very limited set to, but I still had a good time with it.

Ryan

i'm curious to see if you plan to do the upcoming carrie tv series, that i would love to se

Joe Crammond

As I said, the first night, I caught this show up to the fourth episode. Finished the rest over the weekend, bouncing back and forth between this and Iron Fist season two; presently partway through the third and final season of Jessica Jones. Keeping shtum about the latter half of this until we tackle it. Start by talking about the second episode in this reaction. Whole thing feels like watching Bergman or Buñuel, or both wrapped up in one surreal package. Love your assessment of it. Sort of figured you’d make the Hotel Reverie remark. All of this kickstarted by DeMarr not abiding by yours and Nick Fury’s no touchy rule. He gets the notoriety when he saves the club, and Josh Gad. Happy for you that you vibed with the Olaf dance club remix. It did nothing for me. Besides which, the man still owes me for sitting through that goddamn twenty-minute Olaf short film before Coco. Then comes the ambitious heist film. Obviously, this heist film isn’t going to be better than either The Asphalt Jungle or Le Cercle Rouge. They certainly try to surpass the quality of the films by taking advantage of DeMarr’s doorman powers. KNEW the scene of him seeing the comments on the internet would be a bit triggering for you. Good words on the double-edged sword of the catchphrase, especially when they force you to say, “By Grabthar’s Hammer, what a savings.” DeMarr did the Yorick soliloquy with the skull, give the writers points on that one. You have such a big heart, Jess, and it shows when you express such sympathy for DeMarr. All culminating in shit that’s like pg The Boys with the horrific death(?) of Josh Gad, with Dolly playing us off. Hence the Doorman clause, which Cleary is using as the flimsiest excuse to go after Simon, all because they need their precious prison budget. Now to the first episode. We both have the shared dread for the liar revealed trope. Cleary’s not happy about what was on Simon’s computer. I’d have gotten salty, “You said give you access to his computer. You didn’t ask to first verify if anything incriminating was actually on it.” We continue to love the bond between Trevor and Simon, having the passion for the craft, and the two gentlemen speak to me. Good words about Trevor being good for Simon. Adore the reaction to Simon quoting Henry Fonda as Tom Joad. Likewise, it really gets a man in the heart when Trevor expertly quotes one of the many legendary scenes that F. Murray Abraham had as Salieri. Trevor would SO love that film, and especially Murray as Salieri. Monologue bonding, as you call it, is a very, VERY REAL thing, and is indeed a precious thing in this world. Leads to fun times on Mom’s birthday. Snarky family party. Just like old times, especially the Christmas Eve gatherings that’s like a tamer and less hostile seven fishes shebang. Trevor is me at parties. Trevor is also doing not so great at gaining intel. Because yeah, a Haitian family and friends are going to instantly open up about delicate family secrets to an eighty something white guy who crashed the party. Love how Trevor even lampshades this by pointing out to Cleary that he didn’t really think this one through. Cleary is one antsy, and prejudiced motherfucker to be sure. Sweet how you and Trevor were simpatico about Simon’s mom doing dishes at her own party. Simon is lucky that you like him as your reaction to him shitting on Captain America was something. I was under the impression that Simon was talking shit about Steve rather than Sam. Say he was talking about Walker, he can keep the shit talk going, please, by all means. You say about holding onto things, same here. We both hold onto shit for a very long time. Good words on the passive aggression that’s had during the holidays. We both deeply feel Simon’s effort to try to keep a lid on things, and as we both know from personal experience, it’s not a pretty picture. His mom rips both our hearts out, especially the scene she has where she talked about how she thought Simon didn’t mind how alone he was. (Sidenote: The Criterion dvd collection sounds impressive given the presumed timeline.) We both felt Simon’s pain when his brother talks shit about the chosen profession, and at Mom’s birthday party too, like you said. Based on dialogue, it didn’t sound like the brother paid Simon’s bills. Supposing he doesn’t, I’d second your remark. Leads to the dramatic blow up. The poor island and the poor beer and wine fridge. I feel Trevor’s pain in those same scenes. Ben silently sells it so that you can tell that Trevor received similar familial pushback for his acting aspirations, and it pains him to see Simon go through the same with his family. Family, art: It will tear you in two. I felt both Trevor’s and Simon’s positions at the end: How Trevor imparts the rather beautiful sentiment, and Simon, though appreciative of the effort, is just not wanting to be cheered up right then and there. Both sides of that are all too familiar. And we cheer for Trevor when he decides to be a mensch. Sweet it is to see your own reaction to that part. And there’s the shared delight for Trevor and Simon both for getting the callbacks. And then there’s how Wonder Man gets you to open up as you have. I do remember how you’ve spoken about the erstwhile fixation on the numbers, views, hits, etc. You spoke in some detail about it in, I believe it was a Sense8 reaction? Regardless, I remember that was such a big hurdle for you, and I am proud to hear you speak of how you’ve overcome that. Occasionally, sure, you do need to keep tabs on the numbers to prioritize what is and isn’t good for the channel. But as you say, it matters little if you have the biggest channel on the internet. It would be a secondary concern for me, as to me, you are the best at what you do. The very best. And it feels good that you appreciate the loyalty from us, especially here on patreon. That loyalty is not easily given, which speaks to what a wonderful channel you have created. And it continues to be wonderful to join others in sharing with you many films and shows, such as this one, which has been a very emotional time. Without getting into specifics, the second half of this continued to viscerally dig deep into the soul. And though it may sound odd, it’s very comforting and reassuring to have the company of the show rather deeply affecting us. Thank you for the lovely reaction, and thank you for opening up as you did, and sharing what you did, Jess. Appreciate it.

Thomas Corp


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