BATTLESTAR GALACTICA | Hero | Season 3 Ep 8 | Get Frakked
Added 2024-12-10 18:00:07 +0000 UTCOof, not the side of Adama we thought we would be seeing.
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I thinthat when you are that deep into your guilt/feels, logic tends to go out the airlock.
Carrie Schwent
2024-12-14 22:18:13 +0000 UTCIt's not hostile; I don't see where you're getting that from. I just have a slightly different perspective on these characters than the accepted norm; always have. I considered this a good faith discussion/debate and I apologise to you if you felt that my tone come across that way.
Troy Convers
2024-12-12 20:52:48 +0000 UTCI have plenty of ways to dismantle your argument, such as pointing out the difference between human & cylon, and between modern day and a race that is being hunted to extinction. But I don't come here for angry political arguments. The main problem here is your constant hostile tone towards my posts. Everyone is entitled to their opinion - so kindly just post your own on each video, instead of trying to shout down mine every time. Thanks.
Locoturbo
2024-12-12 17:19:12 +0000 UTCLove this episode, but Bill should have known the idea that the mission single handedly provoked the war is not plausible, on the basis timelines alone. You can't build a massive war machine in 3 years powerful enough to wipe out 12 planets and 50 billion people and all of their military assets built up over 40+ years AND leftover from a prior massive war. They had to have been preparing long before that mission, probably more than a decade.
JXTN
2024-12-12 06:17:09 +0000 UTCRemember when Sharon asked Adama if he felt guilty about leaving people behind on New Caprica, and he said "I don't do guilt"? Guess that might not have been the whole truth... You nailed Roslin's character btw. She's an absolute cynic and pragmatist, at least at this point. She's perfectly willing to admit the humans may have provoked the Cylon war AND that the Cylons need to be genocided as a result. The interesting question for me is whether she's always been like that, or whether the pressure of sitting under that number every day has made her this way. And Gaius... only he could go from being viciously tortured to polycule with his captors in the space of a few days.
Jonathan
2024-12-12 01:42:27 +0000 UTCSo is this before or after he put someone through a Guantanamo Bay style torturing, something he may have done more than once? Asking for a friend. And are you forgetting that he said once that had he not had Roslyn to keep him in check, he would have done the same as Admiral Cain? Steve Rogers or Kal-el he ain't.
Troy Convers
2024-12-11 23:59:45 +0000 UTCWell the writers get plenty of time to screw it up later on....😆
Troy Convers
2024-12-11 23:52:15 +0000 UTCI don't think it's because he's unoriginal however. I think it's more that he wanted to push those ideas further than he could in Star Trek. Which I appreciate. He knew Star Trek wasn't quite the IP where he some of his ideas would work, so when one whose framework was more conducive to the sensibilities he was wanting to explore came around, he took the chance to flex his creative muscles. Though ironically, I don't think this was one of those times, as it was his co-showrunner, David Eick who wrote this one.
Nolan
2024-12-11 19:06:50 +0000 UTC"Hero - a person who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities." Do I actually need to list everything he's done to save the human race even up to this point? Sorry that just feels silly. Believe what you wish.
Locoturbo
2024-12-11 18:40:19 +0000 UTCDefine a hero then. And do you honestly think upcoming events add or subtract Adama from your 'hero' archetype? 👀 You'll be telling me Helo is the moral compass of the show next...🤣
Troy Convers
2024-12-11 17:32:38 +0000 UTCYep, thought the same with the Defector callback; Ron does like to reuse ideas, the virus and the moral reaction to it being another.
Troy Convers
2024-12-11 17:32:09 +0000 UTCNow there's a hot take...
Locoturbo
2024-12-11 12:38:21 +0000 UTCI can understand why Adama feels guilty but even if we very generously assume the Cylons were not already spying themselves (and those sleeper agents sure seem like they've been there for a while) surely launching a genocidal war over a minor spy mission is still a bit of an overreaction no?
Ross Nolan
2024-12-11 02:20:29 +0000 UTCI've been here from the very beginning on that other channel. Great to see you two pals still going strong!
David Blau
2024-12-11 01:46:12 +0000 UTCAlso, having spent enough bored days with an endlessly curious mind, I've ended up on a few... "enlightening" reddit posts when it comes to the female torture device that is your own bodies. Like no wonder women are often so on the ball and capable of dealing with endless amounts of nonsense. The way the female body "functions"? sounds just like a constant chore. And most guys do Not know. After some of the terrors I ended up reading about, I am boggled by any questions to the capabilities of women. Like from at least 12, ladies have had to cope with things dudes can't even imagine. And you've all also managed to keep it mostly quiet and secret. For GENERATIONS. Though it helps most dudes'll plug their ears and side step the hell outta that coversation. So yeah, if you want deeper pocket's n' shit, you should have them. Yikeronies.
Nolan
2024-12-10 23:44:27 +0000 UTCNot my favorite episode, it gets kinda hinky with the timeline, I think the writer forgot about the year jump ahead. But there are things I like: The score playing when Adama admits to Lee what he did and how he feels respinsible for everything is the same piece of music that played when Boomer shot him at the end of Season 1. When Tigh comes to rescue Adama, he's wearing his uniform again, and in the final scene, he's got a proper eyepatch on. He's slowly getting himself together and presentable. "End of Line" is either a reference to Tron, or a programming thing to do with reacing the end of a command. Or both. The whole "They're chasing him, but not shooting for him" situation is right out of the TNG episode "The Defector." And yes, that Admiral is VERY Canadian. BSG was shlt in Vancouver, though I must say that accent is very Eastern Canadian. Toronto at least if not the Maritimes, though not as noticable as a Newfoundland accent.
Nolan
2024-12-10 23:29:50 +0000 UTCFrak me, what an episode. A character study and a ghost from Adama's past, and the reason why the old man was dumped on a museum ship. And perfectly timed to mesh right in with Tigh's arc, the one man who understands Bulldog's plight, of survival being its own death sentence. Played by the AWESOME Carl Lumbly, who's seemingly been in everything (and the first Black super-soldier in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, to boot!); an actor I will watch anything with him in, and playing a character that deserves a recurring role. And look at Michael Hogan showing his theatre chops to the full in this ep! Adama is ironically the architect of his own 'survival death sentence', but there's enough survival guilt to go around. And how clever of the Cylons to weaponise him against Adama; why brainwash him when all you have to do is direct the fury that is already there? As a footnote, we're getting a few of these 'character study's episodes in the second half of S3; read whatever significance into them that you wish. And it's probably one of the last times we get a 20+ episode season in a major Sci-Fi series with the way the industry changes. And in all of this awesomeness we almost forget that Gaius is well, not exactly being tortured any more on the Basestar. You've got a way with charming the ladies, I'll give you that, Baltar Big Balls!
Troy Convers
2024-12-10 20:47:16 +0000 UTCI think that the song you're looking for is 'I Need a Hero' by Bonnie Tyler. Channel 4 here in the UK used to use it for NFL broadcasts.
Troy Convers
2024-12-10 20:30:40 +0000 UTCWhy? He's not a hero. Never was.
Troy Convers
2024-12-10 20:29:10 +0000 UTCIs that a tampon in your pocket, or are you just happy to talk about patriarchal capitalism?
Mike Connaghan
2024-12-10 20:23:43 +0000 UTCAlways bothers me how this episode tarnishes Adama's character. But DAMN is it a great episode nonetheless.
Locoturbo
2024-12-10 19:13:59 +0000 UTC
