Dark Page, Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! S7ep7
Added 2023-03-21 17:00:05 +0000 UTCOpening up some dark pages today..
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The absolute saddest episode.... I almost drowned when I was 5ish, I remember looking up from under the water, crying... Tumbled in at the steps and hit my head.
Dan Williams
2023-11-29 22:34:15 +0000 UTCMy grandparents’ first child Ronny was stillborn. He is buried in the family plot, sharing a space with Grandma’s baby sister Hazel, who died at just age 18 months from the Spanish Flu in November 1918. I wish I had known about them before my grandmother passed away 30 years ago. They weren’t erased from the family, but they weren’t talked about, either. In getting the last batch of family photos from my father last year, I found a picture of two babies around a year old each, and the back just had “Hazel” on it. I think I’ve figured out the other child was my great-grandmother’s nephew, Hazel’s first cousin, who was just two months older than her. It might be the only photo of her left, unless my great-aunt’s family has a photo in their collection.
Kathy A
2023-03-28 20:10:10 +0000 UTCi always liked that episode, but seeing you both watchin it, I like it even more. I'm a lifelong trekkie and I always watchd it with my mother (every single series from TOS to Enterprise) this is a different but good expirience watching it with you. I can't belive we are in season 7, omg ;)
Kris Nimitz
2023-03-26 13:20:03 +0000 UTCMwahahaha I knew someone would notice!!!
Time Lord
2023-03-24 18:20:56 +0000 UTCHe also played a very convincing cad in "Westworld." He's in danger of getting typecast.
Ben Chan
2023-03-24 13:45:49 +0000 UTCI had a cousin who died at age 4 or 5 when I was baby. There are a few photos of me with him but I don't remember him. I know that though my aunt and uncle stayed together and had two more kids, they have had various issues over the years, and their kids had difficulties because of it. My cousin is talked about from time to time. Even just hearing about all of it later, I know that kind of thing can really change people. I don't know how people can handle something like that.
Joe Concepts
2023-03-23 16:34:55 +0000 UTCThat may also be why they don't really show what happened. Just jump ahead afterward. Also, Trek probably was not ready to go so far as to show a dead child.
Joe Concepts
2023-03-23 16:33:47 +0000 UTCLets not forget that she did not just loose a child but her husband shortly after. Also, I know you are not supposed to look at the logic of this universe and just enjoy the drama, but you would think that with the tech that they have got, drowning would not be that big of a deal. Like, they have beaming tech and life signs detectors on a planetary scale, why not just have a couple of satellites orbiting that scan the planet for people in trouble and instantly beam them to the ER department? I don't know, sometimes I think with star trek that they are so smart in some ways, but so dumb in others.
gobmob2000
2023-03-23 10:35:59 +0000 UTCWe learned so much about L'waxanna in this episode, not only that she had gone through the heartfelt trauma of losing her husband while she was still raising Deanna as a young girl but lost her first born child as well. No wonder she is defensive of Deanna but in a way her constant pestering of Deanna to settle down and get married not only while still young but to hopefully have children herself. I believe she misses being a mother to a young child since she was eager to take young Alexander under her wing and explore wonders with him as if she were his mother. She was most likely constantly changing outfits, hairstyles, wigs etc and the life of any party to keep from thinking about the two important people in her life she had lost and not only kept trying to arrange a husband for Deanna but for herself as well, she opened up a bit with Alexander previously about how she doesn't like her own hair because it was ordinary and plain and how as she got older she felt tired and lonely which is why she smothers Deanna whenever they got together. I did find it interesting that after Mrs. Troi blasted Riker about how if it weren't for him she'd be married already and to stay away that we didn't see him for the rest of the episode not even at the end but rather Picard came in to stand with her in Sick Bay and helped search her mother's journals in her quarters. By taking him out of the equation it felt different but respectful on his part honouring her mother's wishes especially when she could've died he must've felt some guilt as well.
Brad Barter
2023-03-23 02:47:12 +0000 UTCKD was really good in "Interview With the Vampire" when she was a kid.
Ben Chan
2023-03-23 02:20:59 +0000 UTCFYI creature masks/makeup - remember Doctor Who Deep Breath where the Doctor puts on a face of one of the robots to fool Clara while she is being interrogated by the cyborg? Well that false face Peter Capaldi was wearing was actually one of the Matt Smith's prosthetic masks.
Mark Ten
2023-03-22 14:36:13 +0000 UTCI had forgotten about this one and it hit me very hard today for personal reasons. I had an baby sister who passed before I was born. I kind of grew up knowing I was Mom's "replacement baby" and its something I hadnt thought about for many, many years until last night when I found her birth certificate (never knew I even had it) so there were a lot of thoughts going through my head when I saw this.
Mark Ten
2023-03-22 14:18:34 +0000 UTCThe thing I like about this episode is how much it informs pretty much every prior appearance Lwaxana has had in the series. From her big personality and talking up her status in S1, all the way to the episode where she fell in love with that man from the culture where they kill themselves at 60 and she was NOT having it, to her taking Alexander under her wing. Obviously, none of the those episodes had this in mind, but this does nicely retroactively inform those ones.
Nolan
2023-03-22 03:54:01 +0000 UTCDone behind the scenes for content creation for some time, first thing i noticed: Kat changed her camera angle! lol
LogicSequence
2023-03-22 03:25:33 +0000 UTCI always thought there was an underlying thing here that this kind of suggests why Lwaxana is such a big personality, flamboyant and happy. She is always suppressing things or trying to hide from the dark thoughts, etc. We even see other hints of that in other appearances, too.
Joe Concepts
2023-03-22 02:08:47 +0000 UTCMy son was a twin when he was born I've been in his life since he was 4. He is a child of my wife's first marriage but I love like my very own. The day he was born there was a record number of births in the hospital. I wife was a happy pregnant lady expecting twins. They asked her if she wouldn't mind waiting a few hours before they induce labor and do her c-section. She said sure beause there be alot of other expecting mommies higher risk than her. When they finally got back to her 12 hours later, blood clot caused loss oxygen to the brain of both babies. First baby didn't make it and my son was in the nick u (ICU) for several months. Doctor told my wife to get a dual plot cause doctor said her other baby would probably soon die. 20 years later hes still around although he has plenty of difficulties with autism, epilepsy and a slew of other health problems but he survived. That first marriage of my wife's fell apart after that. My sons bilogical father didn't want a "defective" son and really didn't have much interest in being a Dad anyways. My sons older sister wants nothing to do with him. But all of his siblings now treasure their brother very much. Hes very special to everyone.
Henry Fuller
2023-03-21 23:48:32 +0000 UTCAlso, this episode raises the question of where Troi got her accent. Certain;y not from her mother, but apparently not from her father either.
Neil McRae
2023-03-21 22:34:39 +0000 UTCIf you don't trust Ben Barnes, it's probably because of "The Punisher".
Neil McRae
2023-03-21 22:03:31 +0000 UTCCryin at work rn
Logan Thyne
2023-03-21 21:26:21 +0000 UTCThis is certainly a memorable episode and every time I'm surprised it comes so late in the series. Also, Shadow and Bone season 2 just came out, I liked it but it is very different from the books, especially the ending.
Makhiel
2023-03-21 21:10:17 +0000 UTCThey have a special device installed to let them talk. They mention it at the start of the episode.
Yog-Sothoth
2023-03-21 21:07:46 +0000 UTCThey didn't evolve a voice box. They have a special device installed to let them talk. They mention it at the start of the episode.
Yog-Sothoth
2023-03-21 21:04:55 +0000 UTC(then thinking about Kat having to edit the episode) Oh no...
T J
2023-03-21 20:28:35 +0000 UTC33:10 Kat: "I wasn't going to cry! I wasn't going to cry...and then, that!" Me: (knowing what was to come) Oh no...
T J
2023-03-21 20:22:44 +0000 UTCAt a guess they have ears because hearing has uses other than receiving speech, and mouths because they need to eat. As for why those mouths are capable of the complex movements needed to turn mere sounds in speech, well that's... uh... shut up.
Keith Goodnight
2023-03-21 20:14:02 +0000 UTCThe pensive dramatic stares in this episode are like the biggest no blink contest in history.
myzeplin
2023-03-21 20:01:58 +0000 UTCMaybe a long time back they spoke but evolved away from it somehow. Just trying to think of a Star Treky explanation.
Joe Concepts
2023-03-21 19:43:06 +0000 UTCCouldn't place the episode by the title, but once I saw Dunst, I knew how it would affect you both. This has to be Lluxanna at he most subdued. I can't remember if this was her last appearance, but IMO it is her best one. On the subject of why the Karns need mouths. I think it has to be that when hasn't been a human without a mouth any more than nightmare fuel. I do believe if they had gone that route, it would have been oft putting.
Bruce Bromley
2023-03-21 19:41:31 +0000 UTCears would not be need for verbal communication for sure, but useful when listen for dangers in your environment, alsomoouths still needed for eating
GreyIrohNee
2023-03-21 18:08:36 +0000 UTCHappy to be here in support of all you do.
thereelnerd
2023-03-21 18:06:49 +0000 UTCI'm always a fan of Lwaxana when she gets more serious storylines. Though this one I sometimes feel like is just TOO "dark" a story. But anything like this involving kids tends to make me feel that way. Just seems to get very super serious for a Star Trek plot. Though all very well acted, etc.
Joe Concepts
2023-03-21 18:01:59 +0000 UTCOh wow 'm glad I'm not the only one who kept hearing "the Karen".
Mike
2023-03-21 17:46:56 +0000 UTCThey probably need mouths to eat and breath like any mammal based life-form. A voice box and articulated lips like ours is harder to explain away though haha.
Mike
2023-03-21 17:38:53 +0000 UTCI work now, so I don't get to these until later, but lemme tell ya, I was SHOCKED when I first saw this episode and saw young Kirsten Dunst. First cause I didn't know she acted that young, but also because I know her mostly as a college aged woman kissing an upside-down man in the rain. Retroactively recognizing actors, especially when they've changed a lot over the years is always a thrill. Like that time I recognized Jude Law in an episode of the Jeremy Brett Sherlock Holmes series.
Nolan
2023-03-21 17:21:16 +0000 UTC
