Birthright part 1, Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! S6ep16
Added 2022-11-01 17:10:59 +0000 UTCKat's gonna have to wait a whole week until they find out the conclusion to this one... Just like y'all! How are they gonna handle a Data AND a Worf episode!?
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Lower decks is definitely a fun series to watch, only 10 episodes per season so not as much to get through as others. Is series that rewatch more, there are references to other series such as ds9 and voyager but won't stop you enjoying it
Stephen Wray
2023-11-29 22:48:46 +0000 UTCI wasn't surprised at all. Based on her prior reactions, I think Paula prefers Star Trek to be optimistic, and Bashir was one of the only positive characters on DS9. Most others tended to be bad tempered and cynical more often than not, consistent with DS9's darker overall themes (excepting Quark and sometimes Dax). As for the "creepy" element, yes it's problematic but it pretty much disappears after the first two seasons.
Jay S
2023-08-16 07:52:54 +0000 UTCI was kinda surprised by Paula's positive reaction to Bashier. Figured he was one of the more problematic characters she was avoiding from DS9 given his early pursuit of Jadzia and two other problematic romances. There's creepier and more predatory, but at least those are usually portrayed as being wrong.
Robert Gendron
2023-08-13 16:28:20 +0000 UTCHey, to each their own. Not all Trek series are for everyone (kinda like Star Wars movies TBH). I'm one of the rare few who personally likes DS9 and Enterprise the most (because reasons), but I'm weird that way. I'd say that Babylon 5 would be a good substitute...of course I'm biased, since it's my favorite TV show of all time. The rebooted BSG would definitely be good...Stargate SG-1 as well (that would be a long ten seasons to watch through...but worth it).
Matthew A. LeBlanc
2022-11-12 04:07:24 +0000 UTCI do hope you all will give the TNG movies and ST:Picard a go though, at least to see the end of the TNG story. However if that's not to be, i would throw my heart and soul behind Battlestar Galactica (the new one). Without a doubt it is a masterpiece of modern science fiction.
LogicSequence
2022-11-10 08:20:06 +0000 UTCWell i'm sad you won't be watching DS9, i felt the same way Paula did when i first watched it when it originally aired, but watching it later as an adult it has become somewhat of a favorite of mine (don't get me wrong seasons 1-2 have some rough patches). I think it actually is one of those shows you appreciate more when you re-watch it. But if you're not a fan of what becomes the central theme of the show, and the aspects of... ambiguity of certain arcs, then i suppose that's just the way it is. But to me the ambiguity of some revelations and the central theme of the latter seasons is what makes the show so great.
LogicSequence
2022-11-10 08:19:28 +0000 UTCI must admit I am one of those who are disappointed your journey with Star Trek will end with TNG. But I do hope you continue with some other SF fandom. I subscribe for the Trek and am not really into the wibbly wobbly and other stuff. I just am not sure what you would be into. BSG and the Expanse are some of the best scifi ever made, but VERY untrek like in their darker views of the future. Babylon 5 definitely has some elements of Trek positivity and hope but mixed with real world politics and an over arching good vs. evil theme. My concern there is it might seem a little hokey in that early 90s way. As for Stargate, I can see why others advocate for it and you may enjoy it but personally I hope you choose something else. I have the same general feeling for Stargate that Paula has for DS9.
John Welch
2022-11-09 01:15:21 +0000 UTCIt is a shame that DS9 isn't on the list for Katrina at least. I can understand it not being what Paula likes but her opinion(which is far on the other side of most ST fans) seems to have soured Katrina on the idea. Lower Decks is great but a whole lot of it will be lost without seeing more of the ST titles.
Josh G
2022-11-08 22:09:54 +0000 UTCA shame about DS9, but what about Voyager?
Pranav Gulukota
2022-11-06 20:30:24 +0000 UTCAll I want after TNG is over is for you to continue the journey with these characters by reacting to the TNG movies. Then IF you’re curious about where these characters are now, maybe watch certain episodes of Picard (I won’t recommend the whole series.) Perhaps keep the “Get Warped” series going with one reaction a month from the above so it doesn’t have to be a weekly thing. Of course, do what you want…just throwing out some ideas.
trylikeafool
2022-11-04 02:01:42 +0000 UTCYou should at least try the first few episodes of DS9. It's probably the most human expression of Star Trek and is only as dark as the human experience.
Mark Chrisco
2022-11-04 01:55:51 +0000 UTCAnyone who likes any part of the Star Trek franchise is welcome to enjoy what they enjoy. Liking one part doesn't require liking all parts of the franchise. With the possible exception of thinking that Captain Jellico is the best captain (joking... mostly. I mean obviously the best captain is... Did you really think I'd open that little Q's conundrum here?) there is no wrong way to participate in or experience Star Trek. For all their logic, Vulcans can be whacky sometimes but they got at least one thing absolutely right: infinite diversity in infinite combinations. Peace and long life folks!
AJ
2022-11-02 09:36:18 +0000 UTCMorn is to Quark's Bar as Norm was to "Cheers". It's a shame, I don't think they ever had an episode with him walking into Quark's and everyone yelling MORN!!.
Bruce Bromley
2022-11-02 05:52:52 +0000 UTCThere are plenty of Bottle episodes they can watch. The ones with the TNG crew, certain quest characters from TNG, or the Holosuites. I would much enjoy if they reacted to the Tribbles episode. DS9 has some of the best hours of any Trek series.
Bruce Bromley
2022-11-02 05:46:06 +0000 UTCRe: the whole "not watching DS9" thing, it's too bad, and yeah - it's almost impossible to select "the best" episodes of DS9 out of context as the series became more serialized than any other ST series. I wonder if it would be possible though to find a few episodes featuring Worf, O'Brien (or other familiar characters - I mean, there are a couple that would be awesome for them to react to) to show.
Ben Chan
2022-11-02 03:45:28 +0000 UTCHonestly, to me "The Orville" is just a retread of "TNG" but with far less developed characters. (to me) It's big-budget McFarlane fanfic.
Ben Chan
2022-11-02 02:40:23 +0000 UTCEchoing the general consensus, while I am disappointed that the Gals won't be reacting to DS9 as a full series, I do understand that it just isn't in the cards at this point. That being said, I am in strong favor of the idea of them at least watching the pilot as a one-off special (in similar fashion to them reacting to TOS episodes in between seasons). There are just so many things that tie it in with TNG that make it a worthwhile experience overall (due mostly to the presence of Worf and O'Brien, DS9 feels like the most natural extension of TNG of all the later shows); beyond that, some of the best dramatic storytelling and character development in Trek's long history happen here. Perhaps between seasons 6 and 7 of TNG, or paired with a (pls? 🥹) reaction to Star Trek: Generations after they've finished TNG, or even a limited reaction series of just the 4-5 highlight episodes of each season. I'd honestly be willing to pay a few extra bucks a month if they can fit that in at some point; or, any chance we can commission custom reactions on here? I might be up for that; though, reactions to B5, The Orville and/or BSG are also great ideas! 😁
Alexander Caldwell
2022-11-02 00:49:26 +0000 UTCUnfortunately, many therapists are poorly trained in how to deal with neurodivergent patients. Additionally, despite the fact so many of us fall through the diagnostic cracks as children, there’s an insensitive tendency on the part of many to doubt someone could make it to adulthood without a formal diagnosis (hence the psychiatrist’s eye roll).
Artemis Zeidman
2022-11-01 23:26:17 +0000 UTCAs far as new shows to watch, I'm still rooting for The Good Place, even though it seems like a lost cause. It's one of my favorite shows in recent memory and with lots of really interesting things to talk about and react to. Despite the premise, it has almost nothing to do with religion and everything to do about thinking about what it means to be a good person. I think it would be perfect for you two. Battlestar Galactica is pretty good too, though. At least those first few seasons.
Robert C
2022-11-01 22:59:11 +0000 UTCI am disappointed that you won't be going into DS9. I watched it first run and admit I stopped watching it somewhere in season 2. A friend encouraged me to start again and I'm really glad I did. Some of the best episodes were made on DS9, rivaling TOS & TNG. Probably one of the greatest strengths is the vast array of reoccurring characters. So many greatly written characters to either support the main cast or even having episodes written just for them. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I had hoped for another 7 year adventure.
T J
2022-11-01 22:54:24 +0000 UTCA funny semi-blooper with this one is in Bashirs final scene after he says sweet dreams to Data and is walking away, you can briefly see these little paper booties over his shoes that they used to help keep the set clean between takes that he forgot to take off before that scene. Just an idea but you should put up your next show to watch as a patreon poll! I’m a die hard Trekkie so I would vote for DS9, but at the very least I really hope you watch the TNG movies after next gen ends.
Brian Hakala
2022-11-01 22:39:21 +0000 UTCKat, I’m so, so sorry your psychiatrist treated you that way. There are about a thousand things I want to say to you, one neurodivergent to another, but I’ll do my best to shave things down to some key points. First, you know what’s going on in your own head. Anyone who tells you you don’t is a POS. Self-diagnosis is valid. YOU are valid. ADHDers get a super raw deal. You’re treated as invisible. You’re denied the accommodations and medication you need and pressured not to see yourself as neurodivergent or disabled. You’re left to burn out. You deserve better than that. We all do. Please, please, please watch this video Maggie Mae Fish published a few months back. It’s all about the ADHD experience and how she struggled to get the medication and support she needed. https://youtu.be/jJ1tsu401jk How to ADHD and Olivia Lutfallah are also some ADHDers on YouTube I’ve been following. They’re really great. Paige Layle is also awesome; she’s an AuDHDer (someone who’s autistic and an ADHDer). If a formal diagnosis is something you want or need, push hard for it. Don’t let that psychiatrist discourage you, and, if there’s anything I can do to help, please reach out. Sending you a great, big neurodivergent hug. BTW, Paula FTW with the trivia. I never realized that was James Cromwell. And, good eye on how the shot was set up right before Data got shocked, Kat.
Artemis Zeidman
2022-11-01 22:32:20 +0000 UTCDid they say anything about VOY? As far as I know, it's only DS9 they've ruled out.
Firefly24601
2022-11-01 21:53:59 +0000 UTCOh, also, as much as I love and absolutely adore BSG, I think, given how even episodes of this show have triggered you, Battlestar Galactica is an absolute no-no. It is a show about dark times, struggling against the worst impulses of humanity, despair, and how awful people can be when pushed into fighting for survival and struggling to be better than that. It is not a light, fun, feel good show. I mean, it does make you feel good often, but it also makes one feel a whole gamut of emotions, and it might wreck you. If some think DS9 is too dark a show, BSG is several degrees grimmer and darker than it.
Nolan
2022-11-01 21:10:01 +0000 UTCGutted about no DS9 or VOY, I knew they weren't gonna do them concurrently but not doing them at all is sad, SG1 is pretty good it scratches my Trek itch, never really been keen on B5 or BSG
Craig Burkey
2022-11-01 21:06:17 +0000 UTCBabylon 5 please!!!
Matthew Berry
2022-11-01 20:46:52 +0000 UTCI do like this episode. However, it would be perfect if Morn had less dialogue though… He always talks too much.
Maik
2022-11-01 20:46:15 +0000 UTCBig vote from me for the gals to do Babylon 5.
Stephen Kronfeld
2022-11-01 20:43:36 +0000 UTCUnfortunately, I'm one of HUGE Star Trek fans that's disappointed to hear that you won't be continuing with Star Trek after TNG. Even if you jumped to Voyager, which is more similar to TNG, IMO. Most other shows, except for BSG, I haven't watched and wouldn't be able to continue with your reactions. Of course, I'd guess you'd get new viewers too.
The Real NC Picker
2022-11-01 20:35:52 +0000 UTCWhile I grew up with TNG, DS9 is my favorite, but I understand you guys don't want to get burnt out on another 7 seasons of Star Trek.
Mike
2022-11-01 20:20:22 +0000 UTCI'll agree that the first 3 seasons are up and down, but I personally think DS9 is a great show, with no more downs, once the 4th season starts. It gets a boost in that season that we can't talk about.
The Real NC Picker
2022-11-01 20:17:20 +0000 UTCUnfortunately, you can't do that with DS9. "In The Pale Moonlight" makes no sense without context.
The Real NC Picker
2022-11-01 20:15:19 +0000 UTCUnfortunately, the pilot is what kept me from watching DS9 for many many years. I think it's one of the weakest pilots, personally.
The Real NC Picker
2022-11-01 20:12:58 +0000 UTCare we skipping to star trek voyager
Peter Hutchinson
2022-11-01 19:52:32 +0000 UTCPaula, I do hope you were nice to Kat and watched the second part right after this one. :-) I was only momentarily bummed that you won't be tackling DS9 right away. There are other great series out there to experience. I can't wait to see what you'll have next. I would love it to be one that is new to both of you.
Bruce Bromley
2022-11-01 19:46:22 +0000 UTCBirthright, possibly the most disappointing 2-parter in all of Star Trek. Because the interesting plot was only in part 1. I mean, I appreciate Worf's plot for where it goes with his character, but let's just say part 2 let me experience my OWN dreams.
Nolan
2022-11-01 19:42:19 +0000 UTCIf you are looking into other fandoms to react to, Stargate sg1 would absolutely be a good show to watch, it has sci-fi, humor and action all combined into one.
Hampus Theander
2022-11-01 19:24:05 +0000 UTCSecond vote right here.
Firefly24601
2022-11-01 19:19:13 +0000 UTCDS9 can be uneven, so I don't love it all, but I'm a big fan of both shows. Overall DS9 is a great show in my mind, doing some of the first real serialized storytelling in Trek. And it goes to interesting places, and the space station setting allows for more recurring characters. But that said, I still see TNG as my Star Trek "comfort show."
Joe Concepts
2022-11-01 19:16:42 +0000 UTCShame about not watching DS9, but I get it. Maybe after a breather with another show you might revisit, in the same way as TOS, greatest hits style. 'Duet' and 'In the Pale Moonlight' are some of the best Trek episodes. But DS9 also has some of the worst too (Profit and Lace - oof). Excited for what comes next regardless.
Ian Murray
2022-11-01 19:00:30 +0000 UTCIf you're considering another fandom, I suggest "The Orville". Kind of an awkward start, but much like TNG, it gets much better by the third season (and the seasons are only about half as long as TNG).
Neil McRae
2022-11-01 18:58:16 +0000 UTCFun episode! We love Data’s dreams here!
Arek Schneyer
2022-11-01 18:29:29 +0000 UTCI might be in Paula's camp of "I like DS9, it's fine, but not my favorite Trek". There are some really really avid fans of DS9 out there who get a little testy when someone says they don't like DS9 as much as other Trek. Oddly enough it was another space station show that came out around the same time as DS9 that I got totally hooked on. It had a much lower budget and effects that don't hold up today, but still I love to rewatch it because the writing and the characters are so sharp that they elevated the entire show above concerns like production design and visuals. PS-- If Paula wants to do B5, y'all have my emphatic vote.
Jarrod Wild
2022-11-01 18:07:52 +0000 UTCQuote the raven, "Doc-tor" Well, it was a crow, but WTF?
Mark Ten
2022-11-01 18:05:41 +0000 UTCIt's a shame you aren't watching DS9 gals, but I understand. For me, DS9 is better than TNG, only marginally, but I love both of them along with Voyager and Enterprise.
Daniel French
2022-11-01 17:58:41 +0000 UTCKat and Paula, I know you said you won't watch DS9 series but I would implore you to at least watch the pilot. I think it's the best pilot episode of any of the major trek shows. The pilot also ties nicely into Next Gen.
Kalhoun
2022-11-01 17:50:24 +0000 UTCYeah that's fucked up therapist's aren't supposed to do that. A good therapist will train those gestures out of themselves while they deal with patients.
William Green
2022-11-01 17:33:21 +0000 UTC
