Face of the Enemy, Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! S6Ep14
Added 2022-10-18 17:00:15 +0000 UTCJust when you start to get comfortable... The Romulans show up!!! What on Earth have they done to Deanna and how will she make it back safely to the Enterprise!?
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Another absolute favorite episode.
Dan Williams
2023-11-27 04:37:28 +0000 UTCHey, there's plenty of room. Come on in.
Sal Sanchez
2022-10-27 02:56:09 +0000 UTCwas just coming to say this.
Christine Ester
2022-10-25 18:37:57 +0000 UTCShe went undercover as a half Klingon that mated with Worf and was subsequently murdered.
Andrew Hogan
2022-10-22 17:32:39 +0000 UTCDoctor Selar of the medical staff would gave been a better choice for the Romulans to recruit for this assignment.
Mark Chrisco
2022-10-20 23:50:03 +0000 UTCTroi knowing that freighter captain was lying was the only point her empathic powers were really necessary. Unless they helped her deal with the commander a little.
Joe Concepts
2022-10-19 16:33:17 +0000 UTCEven the first time we saw Cardassians, at least one of them felt bad about their past. The captain was more warlike than he let on of course, but the one O'Brien talked to regretted that massacre.
Joe Concepts
2022-10-19 16:31:39 +0000 UTCPersonally, I love how an empath is forced to play a person with absolutely *no* empathy.
The Crazed Spruce
2022-10-19 08:24:36 +0000 UTCTo me, Carolyn Seymour will always be Queen Myrrah from the Gears of War series. Whenever she pops up in these Star Trek episodes, Myrrah is all I can hear. She does a fantastic job as the big bad in Gears, and does an amazing job in this episode of bringing that same energy while also at times drawing sympathy from the viewer. She’s just a fantastic actor all round.
Matthew Scrivens
2022-10-19 08:18:40 +0000 UTCIf you start to watch the TNG movies, please don't skip the first one (Star Trek Generations). Yes, it's also about Kirk and his crew, but you already watched a number of TOS episodes togehter and I think Katrina likes them. And while Generations is not as good as First Contact it's still a really good movie with many wonderful moments.
Michael B.
2022-10-19 05:38:10 +0000 UTCAgree with the poster above.....while there are certainly far too many episodes where Troi has been violated, Picard has had a ton as well. Apart from the 2 BIG ones mentioned above, he was also kidnapped or taken against his will in S3 "The High Ground" and "Allegiance", and in a sense also the "The Inner Light" as well to name a few. And that doesn't even count the number of times Q has done it.
Jay S
2022-10-19 03:59:21 +0000 UTCI wouldn't say Troi is always the one getting violated. Picard has been abused and/or violated badly at least twice. Those two examples are first in Chain of Command and before that in Best of Both Worlds.
Matt O'Keefe
2022-10-19 02:28:20 +0000 UTCIf you all are considering any new Gallifrey Gals t-shirt designs, may I suggest “Romulan Is the Word You’re Looking For,” “No Shit, Sherlock” and “Geez Louise.” This episode definitely stretches the conceit of the universal translator, as I doubt Deanna speaks perfect Romulan. Additionally, the explanation as to why they chose to abduct and surgically alter Deanna, rather than use a sympathetic Romulan, is a little thin. However, the incredible performances in this episode make up for any minor plot holes.
Matthew Zeidman
2022-10-19 00:47:24 +0000 UTCThis is one of my all time favorite trek episodes.
Christopher Hayes
2022-10-19 00:46:29 +0000 UTCThe actress wasn't in First Contact, the movie. She was in First Contact, the episode. Its the one where Riker is injured and discovered on that planet. I think she plays "Minister Marista Yale". Riker is hospitalized and it creates problem for the ruling party as they come to terms with there being other worlds. Oh, and an alien has sex with Riker
Sal Sanchez
2022-10-18 23:56:22 +0000 UTCMarina is just so freaking amazing here!
Kathy A
2022-10-18 22:27:39 +0000 UTCThis is one of my favourite episodes, this is for me the one where Troi grows exponentially as a character, I love her story arc.
Brett Delbridge
2022-10-18 22:18:42 +0000 UTCThis episode was written by Naren Shankar who would go on to be showrunner for my favorite sci-fi show of the last twenty years, The Expanse. Anyone who hasn't seen it should check it out.
Thontor
2022-10-18 21:39:28 +0000 UTCIt's funny and strange when books as well as TV series and movies of the same genre use the exact same title for a major motion picture as they already did in a novel or episode of TV. This has happened at least twice in Star Trek where there was a TOS novel titled Final Frontier and a few years later Star Trek V The Final Frontier came out. First Contact a TNG 4th season episode where Riker disguised as an alien with webbed fingers is hospitalized and believed to be an alien as this culture is about to use warp drive for the first time making Picard and Troi introduce themselves to Mirasta Yale (Romulan Commander in Face of the Enemy) and then movie First Contact came out later none of these are comparable to the show or novel except for duplicating the title.
Brad Barter
2022-10-18 21:33:42 +0000 UTCObviously we have this newer storyline of the dissident movement, but it's also pretty wild to think that the overarching theme of some portion of the Romulan people not wanting to be war-like has been with us since all the way back in Balance of Terror. Just subbed a little while back and I'm glad I did, some of my personal favourite episodes are in and around this part of the series. Not that seasons 3,4, and 5 aren't great (they are) and there are a lot of gems to be found in 1 & 2 as well, but season 6 fucking slaps.
Preaching to the Horse's Mouth
2022-10-18 21:01:14 +0000 UTCI love this episode. Sometimes it can be underrated. Considering the time that this episode was released, it would have been just after the USSR dissolved. There would have been many stories about defectors. This is the first time in Star Trek where the Tal Shiar were mentioned by name and information was given in the episode as to who they were. They are very similar to agencies such as found in the USSR and China. The stories given by Commander Toreth of secret police style agencies taking away citizens in the night who dared to speak out are reminiscent of many stories that have come out of countries all around the world where freedoms have been curtailed by such agencies. Interestingly, (and sorry if you already mentioned it as it is on memory alpha) a lot of the dialogue for Commander Toreth was written with Sean Connery's character from The Hunt for Red October in mind. The biggest reason I still love this episode though is how it still resonates today. The world is currently hurtling towards more and more uncertainty with the potential of war always lerking around every corner. One of the things that this episode hints at, and certain later episodes of DS9 do as well, is the idea of Defectors, subterfuge and spies. Sub-Commander N'Vek was a pretty hated character during the episode. He violated Troi by kidnapping her and having her surgically altered. He forced her into a deadly situation against her will and he killed a crew of 18 people. And, this is just what was shown on screen. However, Troi does speak up for him at the end when she says how brave he was. He was helping a dissident movement. He lived every day with the possibility of being discovered and killed. He may have had family who may have shared his fate if he was discovered. He may have been unhelpful in sharing information but, as Ensign DeSeve pointed out regarding Romulans, they learn very early on not to share more than is thought needed at the time (and, probably with good reason). In the end though, he was responsible for the lives of those in the cargo. High value defectors who could pave the way for future defections. Do the ends justify the means? This is a very important question that can be very difficult to answer. I personally would say no. It is dangerous to fall into a comfortability of accepting that idea. However, I also accept that the ends may never fully be known. How many lives go on to be saved because of this open link for future defections? How many potential wars will be stopped? Can it ever be measured. But, sometimes, a brave individual can be a changing point for history. I know there are a lot of individuals in the last 100 years who's individual actions allow me to live today in relative day to day comfort. I am grateful for that and remind myself that not everyone is so fortunate. It is going to be other brave individuals who are going to be pivotal in stopping the war atrocities of today and tomorrow and many of them may never be known for the actions they take. It is at this point I realise I have written a very long comment and thank everyone who has read to this point for sticking with what I have written as I step down from my soapbox. 😊 As I stated before, I really like this episode.
Peter
2022-10-18 20:24:27 +0000 UTCI had a feeling that the beginning would upset you a little Kat, but I felt you would enjoy the overall episode. In particular, seeing Deanna play a 'strong' role is a nice change from the ones she is normally given. Also, Carolynn Seymore did a phenomenal job with her role. Honestly though... when you have only a part on one episode, and you are able to make viewers side with you (what to do on 'her' ship), you know she nailed it. Anyhow, on to the next one!! The next one though.. is a real heart stopper!!
Matthew Berry
2022-10-18 19:17:44 +0000 UTCTrek likes to keep and reuse actors they like. There are so many examples of actors returning again and again. That's one thing I've always liked, even if you recognize the actors returning.
The Real NC Picker
2022-10-18 18:41:24 +0000 UTCIf the plan went correctly then there wasn't going to be any violence, but even Spock will kill if it's absolutely necessary. They had to improvise and change the plan, for the greater good.
The Real NC Picker
2022-10-18 18:39:55 +0000 UTCCarolyn Seymour was also under consideration for the role of Captain Janeway on Voyager, a part she really wanted. Its just she is one of those performers with a villianous appearance. A look that has gotten her a lot of work in that type of role, not so much as the "hero."
Mark Chrisco
2022-10-18 18:34:45 +0000 UTCShe really is incredible!! - Kat
Time Lord
2022-10-18 18:25:54 +0000 UTCRight. She was the scientist who left the planet aboard Enterprise.
Mark Chrisco
2022-10-18 18:25:34 +0000 UTCHonestly, this is a great differentiation! Haha - Kat
Time Lord
2022-10-18 18:25:24 +0000 UTCThe only problem I have with this episode is Spock would never condone this use of violence and murder. That's why the Vulcan nerve pinch was invented after all.
Mike
2022-10-18 18:19:22 +0000 UTCHands down the best Troi episode. This really shows off why the actress was hired in the first place, so it's so odd why so many of her episodes are, not the best.
Mike
2022-10-18 18:10:18 +0000 UTCCarolyn Seymour was in the episode First Contact, not the movie. The episode had a character say”I always wanted to make love to an alien!”
Kelley Leary
2022-10-18 18:05:24 +0000 UTCOne thing Carolyn Seymour was in the season 4 episode "First Contact" (not the TNG Film "First Contact") where she played Mirasta Yale. She was the scientist that was about to break the warp barrier on her world when Commander Riker was injured and put in one of their hospitals. Star Trek First Contact the movie will be a must watch though.
Jonathan Emery
2022-10-18 17:52:55 +0000 UTCKat... Vulcans explain why, Romulans drug you into obediance
Mark Ten
2022-10-18 17:44:05 +0000 UTCFinally, a decent Troi episode where she doesn't lose her powers, get impregnated or is mentally manipulated by some alien. Took long enough! Excellent guest star performance by Carolynn Seymore. If her character despised the Tal Shiar so much maybe Troi could have taken her into her confidence? The commander could then just claim she was obeying orders and had no idea what the mystery cargo was or who Trio really was. Plot hole: Why the hell would Troi have the access codes to the Federation sensor net along the Romulan border? Does Mr. Mott, the Enterprise barber, have them too? Does she have these codes memorized? If Capt. Picard needed them he'd likely have to look them up on the computer. This makes no sense.
Henchman Twenty1
2022-10-18 17:33:36 +0000 UTC
