I, Borg, Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! S5Ep23
Added 2022-06-07 17:01:01 +0000 UTCThe Borg is back!!
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Tbh they should have just asked Hugh if he would choose to destroy the Borg collective to protect others, including Geordi, if he was to go back to the collective anyways only to protect. He might have willingly assisted in destroying the Borg. But of course they needed the Borg to stick around as an enemy of the Federation, which is why they didn't. They issue was that they didn't want to force an individual like Hugh to do anything against their will. Was the plan of destroying the Borg really ever in question?
Guts
2023-12-03 18:19:50 +0000 UTCOne of the absolute best episodes. LeVar is soooo good in this. And Gates. And Hugh (I don't know the actor's name), absolutely love his performance, truly makes one empathetic towards the Borg. They are all victims turned aggressive... The absolute "hurt people hurt people." The Borg are such a tragic creation... The ultimate in racism, and to have LeVar and Whoopi discussing assumptions of another race's violence/aggression, and then realizing that people are people.... Quite often Trek has given the racism of "European" vs "African" gives the European view to the Africans to express human view over others... movie ST5 with Brock Peters... Different but similar results as our own history. And so much broader.... So powerful!
Dan Williams
2023-11-25 03:25:33 +0000 UTCTotally agree with you Alfonso. Thought Insurrection was so-so but Generations was bad and Nemesis was beyond awful.
Jay S
2022-06-14 06:47:07 +0000 UTCWell it's not simply the distance, but the time. When we detect stars thousands of light years away, we're viewing them as they were millennia ago. In contrast, ship sensors in Trek operate in roughly real time since they have a subspace component to them.
Raja
2022-06-13 20:55:37 +0000 UTCFor them being able to detect ships from far away is less bonkers then you think, its actually quite realistic. In the blackness of space, any radiation source such as a ship would be like a lighthouse, easily detectable. And if you think about it, we can already detect objects from many light years away with your naked eye, all you have to do is look at the night sky.
gobmob2000
2022-06-08 11:33:05 +0000 UTCI imagine Trek being Trek (thankfully), it probably was intended as that sort of allegory, whose message I *do* agree with. But in the case of the Borg, I don't think the idea of "othering" them because they're differing or something is a concept that applies. In practicaility, I don't really consider the Borg to have beliefs or ideology as a collective, or to even be considered a group or species. I think it's more ike the basic chemical instructions of a disease, and think it is more accurate to consider the Borg as individuals overtaken by a shared disease. You don't think of two ill people as each having *a* polio or *a* covid, they just have it. And until this episode, it was seemingly uncurable, and unless stopped inevitably coming to them all. I think it is more accurate to think (again until this episode) of things alongside zombie rules, in which the only choice is (was) to kill the infected. So I don't think to harshly of the original plan. Of course, now that it is known they retain the possibility of "recovery", the dynamic changes obviously.
JXTN
2022-06-08 11:17:49 +0000 UTCI don't think too harshly on their plan to kill the Borg. I consider the Borg similar to something like the Cordyceps fungus, which hijacks and pilots other lifeforms. Technichally life, but not really on the same level as it's victims on it's own. And if a something was infecting and overtaking humanity, and the only way to stop it was to kill the infected, that would not be considered immoral. That's the basis of all zombie fiction, really. I would compare the plan to a vaccine over a weapon, but the analogy doesn't really work, as vacciines don't seek out and destroy the entire of existence of the disease everywhere, outside the initial body. Of course, this was all only true before this episode, as the possiblity that the Borg had remnants of individual sentience and the possibility of potential change did not exist yet.
JXTN
2022-06-08 11:02:53 +0000 UTCGeordi is such a great friend to everyone...and also why the ladies always friend-zone him (sorry, bad joke!). Definitely a great episode that completely changes the feelings of the Borg and overall questions about how humans tend to stereotype an entire culture, even one that has as bad a history as the Borg.
Chris Lane- Venturi 3D
2022-06-08 06:06:25 +0000 UTCI like the moral clarity the writers give Dr. Crusher.
Matthew Zeidman
2022-06-08 05:21:52 +0000 UTC:( @Paula I wish you would say spoiler alert, when Katrina looks in filmography, if it's contain spoilers.
Redjac
2022-06-08 01:18:55 +0000 UTC"Then why don't you just listen. That is what you do best, isn't it?" Geordi, the only person to ever take Guinan the Wise down a peg.
Raja
2022-06-08 00:16:44 +0000 UTCHonestly, this episode touches me a bit. The image I use as my avatar is Coyote Starrk, He is one of the Espada (ten swords) in Bleach that represent 10 aspects of death, in fact he is number 1, perhaps the most powerful but his aspect of death is loneliness... I relate to him I always feel lonely.
DarkAshtar
2022-06-07 23:45:10 +0000 UTCI mean, there's only four of them...
Eric
2022-06-07 23:01:56 +0000 UTCNext one is my favourite
Brett Delbridge
2022-06-07 21:59:53 +0000 UTCKatrina: "Oh, that's why he looked familiar!" Me: "Well, that and also your MERCH. Lol." An interesting commentary on the nature of prejudice. It's easy to hate a collective. To wish violence on them and to end their influence and whatever power they have. It's easy to maintain that distance to be able to view members of that collective as THAT collective, and NOT an individual. Because when you distance a group like that, you can reduce that group to an IDEA, not a collective of people. And one cannot murder or hurt an IDEA. But a group is PEOPLE. We don't have to agree with them, or the way they live or view life. What they were taught and what influenced them. But they are still PEOPLE. And People deserve a basic respect and right to life. Even if you might hate someone, they still deserve life. This episode is all about telling us how easy it is to fall into this trap of maintaining distance to maintain a collective view of individuals in order to maintain a hatred for them. What "group" do you hate? Democrats? Republicans? Moderates? People from country A or Religion B? Fans of the new Star Trek? NuTrek Haters? The Wealthy, the poor? Millennials? Gen X? Gen Z? What labels are you throwing out at people in order to maintain your hatred of their IDEA, rather than allowing yourself to see the person underneath all those implanted ideas they've come to rely on? THAT is why this episode is powerful, because it shows how even the best, most open-minded and caring people can fall into this. It's so easy, and it is wrong.
Nolan
2022-06-07 20:29:06 +0000 UTCHow we deal with enemies is more important than how we deal with friends. Finding empathy, even in the hardest of circumstances, keeps us human. Remember that the Borg killed at least 14000 people during their attack. Across the galaxy they have killed untold billions likely trillions of innocents. They are worse in many ways then the Daileks, because at least the Daileks just destroy you. The borg take what you are, and use it against your friends, your family, your people. Yet if we become monsters to destroy monsters, what part of us is worth surviving? We must keep fighting to be human, despite of everything, we have to keep trying to be better.
Jay Fleming
2022-06-07 19:59:14 +0000 UTCI mean... in about a year.... First Contact would be a fun thing to watch. Not all the movies are really worth it (IMHO), but that one... yeah...
ALFONSO SMITH III
2022-06-07 19:53:46 +0000 UTCWhen Hugh looks at Geordi right at the end.
Adam Brown
2022-06-07 19:44:08 +0000 UTCOne thing I gotta say here is that Johnathon Del Arco really knocked it out of the park. One of Star Trek's strong suits has always been the guest casting. One little touch I liked is the scene where Picard agrees to transport the Borg onboard and then heads to his ready room. Data, and android without emotions of his own, sees that Picard is unsettled and turns to look at Trio, an empath who can sense emotions, to non verbally let her know she should go and speak with the Captain to make sure he is okay. While I didn't cry when I first saw this episode back when it premiered I shed a few tears while watching it again with you gals.
Henchman Twenty1
2022-06-07 19:37:59 +0000 UTCS5 ends on such a good run…
Darren Seal
2022-06-07 19:03:04 +0000 UTCThis was a great opportunity to take moral giants like PIcard and Guinan and humanize them by drawing on their own past trauma.
Jarrod Wild
2022-06-07 18:49:49 +0000 UTCYeah. A Borg was actually nicer to him than they were. Maybe there's a deleted scene where Hugh agrees with one of Worf's security recommendations?
Henchman Twenty1
2022-06-07 18:44:12 +0000 UTCI do believe they used the term "assimilate" before. It's far from being a retcon, though. My only question would be why such drastic measures to destroy the Borg? They could have just have used the same method that Data used in BoBW and put the all asleep. Keeping Hugh on the Enterprise.
Bruce Bromley
2022-06-07 18:33:14 +0000 UTCIt’s a fair point. The problem is they had a really interesting and dangerous enemy that made for great television and they were essentially neutered. I think they made an interesting choice and perhaps the Star Trek choice to humanize them.
Andrew Hogan
2022-06-07 18:28:18 +0000 UTCSo happy to be back on Patreon and be able to watch you all. Love this episode but truly I'm waiting for Episode 25. I think it's the best or at least one of the top five of the season.
Bruce Bromley
2022-06-07 18:19:35 +0000 UTCOne of my favorites for sure! I don't want to spoil anything, but I'll just say we haven't seen the last of Hugh. I can't wait to see the rest of the season with you both. Some great episodes ahead!
Brian Moore
2022-06-07 18:17:54 +0000 UTCAnd thus begins the retconning of the Borg where they always assimilate, even though I think that word was never even used until this episode. I'm not sure how I feel about that change, especially how it affects the portrayal of the Borg from here on out.
Mike
2022-06-07 18:15:01 +0000 UTCMaybe my second favorite of the entire series... ironically, my vote for GOAT is coming...
Mark Ten
2022-06-07 18:13:36 +0000 UTCHugh is right, Geordi must not die. I love Worf's reaction to being told by Picard to wait outside. He's about to speak up as usual, but then he's like "nah, I know how this goes" it always makes me laugh...
Brendon Waldron
2022-06-07 18:03:53 +0000 UTCMy this is unexpected, My screen name is a direct call back to borg naming patterns. my 5 are my parent's, myself and my brother and sister. I did not remember that 1234 had the same (more or less) borg designation. I remember the borg as 1234
Colin 3of5
2022-06-07 17:54:39 +0000 UTCMan poor Geordi. Talks to both Guinan and Picard and they both essentially tell him to shut up and get over his morals.
AdmiralKnight
2022-06-07 17:47:32 +0000 UTCSeason 1 Episode 26 The Neutral Zone, Scooped out bases.
Colin 3of5
2022-06-07 17:11:59 +0000 UTC♫ The Borg Is Back And You're Gonna Be In Trouble - Hey-la-day-la The Borg Is Back ♫ - Well, maybe not this time. (Sorry. I couldn't resist after seeing the Gals' short episode description above.) When this episode first aired some fans had an issue with the show humanizing the enemies, but I think it showed that as a group people can be more dangerous and destructive, especially if they all share the same mindset, but individually you may be able to reach some of them and get through.
Henchman Twenty1
2022-06-07 17:10:48 +0000 UTCA classic :D
fcast17
2022-06-07 17:02:44 +0000 UTC
