Balance of Terror, Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! Classic Edition
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If for no other reason the whispering gets across the tension of trying to hide from the enemy.
Norman Dixon
2021-11-28 01:18:13 +0000 UTCThat is so true. I'm always noticing something new in TOS even though I've seen the episodes repeatedly. In my last viewing of this episode I noticed that Tomlinson took Angela's hand when they left the chapel to report to battle stations. It's small human moments like that they give more weight to the show.
Norman Dixon
2021-11-28 00:11:47 +0000 UTCHaven't played Star Trek Online, but I recall previous games like Starfleet Academy where the plasma weapon did have a guidance system that chased you regardless of any evasive maneuvers. Only option was to outrun the plasma as long as possible til it ran out of steam.
Raja
2021-11-22 16:43:01 +0000 UTCYes indeed, the old romulan plasma torpedoes had some homing capabilities, were very powerful but the energy dissipated quickly so the longer you can outrun them the less damage they will do if they hit you. But they didn't really show that here
Chris Davies
2021-11-20 12:26:49 +0000 UTCThe presumption I guess was that it had some sort of homing aspect. Still, yes, trying to out maneuver it would make sense: that's what "evasive maneuvers" are. However, maybe they couldn't do both that and run away as fast as possible. (A straight line is the fastest you can go, after all. Evasive maneuvers would mean a less straight line.)
Bluefox
2021-11-19 09:52:33 +0000 UTCYes, definitely. The implication was that they were just injured, not killed.
Bluefox
2021-11-19 09:51:27 +0000 UTCNot "practically." It's where the term originates. They called themselves Kirk/Spock or "Kirk slash Spock." Hence the term "slash fiction." So much of the things we take for granted of the modern concept of fandom began with Star Trek.
Bluefox
2021-11-19 09:38:40 +0000 UTCLove this episode, but, have to ask, when the Bird of Prey fired their weapon at the Enterprise, why didn't they just change course to avoid it?
Mark Chrisco
2021-11-19 02:53:12 +0000 UTCJust a note on the use of 'casualties' at 45:35, it's only somewhat recently that 'casualties' has come to mean 'deaths' to the average person. It really means people killed, injured, or disabled by whatever event, which is why their tones are a bit casual and Bones says "mostly radiation burns" and "could've been much much worse", and later says they only lost one crewman. I think the word casualties is used in a similar way in TNG a few times as well, to mean injuries as well as deaths.
Raq Miller
2021-11-18 22:27:43 +0000 UTCI always forget how Shakespearean Roman the Romulan's are when first introduced. The first exchange between the Captain and the Centurion could be right out of Julias Ceasar or Titus Androincus
Shawn Gates
2021-11-18 06:06:38 +0000 UTCIt’s pretty much a submarine duel. Staying quiet the phasers are more like depth chargers
Brett Whittaker
2021-11-17 08:05:36 +0000 UTCAlso pops up in an episode of Voyager
Brad Ireland
2021-11-17 07:37:06 +0000 UTCI believe the helmets were a way for them to avoid having to do prosthetic ears on everyone.
Thontor
2021-11-17 06:06:13 +0000 UTCIt absolutely was. Clearly evident with the whole idea of needing to stay quiet and whisper.
Thontor
2021-11-17 05:59:25 +0000 UTCThe blonde woman was Yeoman Rand, who was part of the first season as a love interest for Kirk, until they decided they didn’t want that to be part of the show after all, and she just disappeared off the show. She does pop up very briefly in a few of the movies.
Joe Concepts
2021-11-17 04:17:45 +0000 UTCWe didn't see the full dress uniforms until a little bit later on in the series and only for the main characters.
Henchman Twenty1
2021-11-17 04:02:12 +0000 UTCBoo, more episodes first! If it was up to me they'd watch basically all the good ones before the movies (Hell, even a few of the animted ones!). It's probably a lost cause, unfortunately.
JXTN
2021-11-17 03:46:03 +0000 UTCI hadn't seen the episode before, but it was great. Felt very much like it was inspired by submarine combat.
R. Chang
2021-11-17 03:41:32 +0000 UTC"War. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing."
Joshua Gosdin
2021-11-17 03:28:05 +0000 UTCPeople in the military often wear their uniforms on formal occasions.
JXTN
2021-11-17 03:01:38 +0000 UTCHey Gallifrey Gals.You need to watch Mark Lenard as Sarek in the TOS episode Journey to Babel
Hok'Tar
2021-11-17 02:12:09 +0000 UTCAside from Mark Lenard's dual roles of Sarek and the Romulan captain, you might also recognize the insubordinate Romulan soldier who was "reduced two steps in rank". Lawrence Montaigne also played Stonn, the Vulcan who'd wanted to challenge Spock for T'Pring's hand in "Amok Time". The Romulan helmets that Katrina noticed were used by several Vulcans in that episode too.
Raja
2021-11-17 02:02:33 +0000 UTCAgreed, reminds me of when Geordi took the captain's chair in S1 of TNG...that was also a cool moment
Chris Lane- Venturi 3D
2021-11-17 00:40:46 +0000 UTCAn East coast actor, the Romulan Commander was Mark's first Hollywood credit. He was one of the few guest actors who was embraced by fandom as a member of the Star Trek "family."
Mark Chrisco
2021-11-16 23:13:30 +0000 UTCI've also seen it proposed the phasers were modulated for short bursts in order to produce a more effective spread of concentrated fire.
Mark Chrisco
2021-11-16 23:06:05 +0000 UTCAn interesting note is during the just viewed TNG episode "Redemption," Picard asks for reports from the Neutral Zone outposts for Romulan activity near the border,
Mark Chrisco
2021-11-16 23:01:01 +0000 UTCMy favorite episode of TOS! I’m so glad Paula and Katrina noted how quickly we come to care about the Romulans. Also, I’ve sene this dozens of times, but in this viewing I noticed something for the first time. The Romulan captain had his own version of Stiles … the younger Centurion who kept pressuring him to be more aggressive. Every time I watch TOS I notice something “new.”
Andrew Pulrang
2021-11-16 22:40:33 +0000 UTCEvery time I watch this episode I always think of the moment when they find out the Romulans look like Vulcans, and the instant change in attitude towards Spock by Styles. It reminds me of what George Takei said about the USA's Japanese-American internment in WWII. They were outcast and put in camps "merely because we looked like the enemy."
Firefly24601
2021-11-16 21:55:49 +0000 UTCHonestly a perfect episode for the break considering Part II of Redemption (no spoilers)... also may I draw attention to the Uhura in this episode. What a small but amazing moment she gets when she takes over the helm. Remember this is the main weapons counsel of the Constitution class ship, meaning that she is not only a proficient comm officer, but is able to take over the weapons position with ease at a time of deadly serious combat. It showed clearly that this woman was not window dressing, that she not just there, but the captain trusted her with his life and that of the entire ship. IT's moments like this that matter in sci-fi. While it doesn't seem like much today, in 1968 when this was made seeing people of color in positions of such importance was huge.
Jay Fleming
2021-11-16 21:29:36 +0000 UTCPicard's dialog officiating Miles and Keiko's wedding was indeed taken virtually word for word from this episode. However, in reality, ship's captains have never had the authority to actually perform weddings. I was actually disappointed to hear that as I had thought it was neat that they were seemingly carrying on an age old tradition, hence the "days if the earliest wooden ships" part. Some of those voyages could be pretty long after all.
Henchman Twenty1
2021-11-16 21:21:39 +0000 UTCI wonder if now Paula and Katrina know the main tos cast and their dynamics better they might skip to divulging in to some movie reacts of the tos movies?
LonghillAndy
2021-11-16 21:10:49 +0000 UTCPhasers fire. Nuclear charge explodes. Ship tilts one way. Uhura tumbles the other way. Also, as this was early in the series I don't believe they had yet come up with the concept of photon torpedos yet. That's probably why the phaser fire here more closely resembles that of torpedo fire than the straight-beam we later see with phaser fire. Also, also, 22 people didn't die. Just the groom. "Casualties" can also mean wounded.
Henchman Twenty1
2021-11-16 20:55:38 +0000 UTCWhen Kirk was saying "it never makes any sense", I was thinking about the City On The Edge of Forever and how he loses his love. Even though she had a "reason" to die, it didn't make it make sense to him. That's at the end of this season so it hadn't happened yet but Kirk will feel her pain.
Shelly
2021-11-16 20:34:18 +0000 UTCSpock locks onto image of Romulan bridge. Romulan commander turns toward screen. Everyone looks shocked. Spock: "Dad?!" Romulan Commander: "Hello, son. I have something to tell you." [Dramatically} "I AM YOUR FATHER." Spock: [Unimpressed] "I know that. What are you doing there? I'm telling mom!"
Henchman Twenty1
2021-11-16 20:23:25 +0000 UTCMark Lenard was one of the first Trek actors to play multiple roles. He played the first Romulan Commander. He played the first updated Klingon in the first Star Trek feature film and, of course, played Sarek in the show and movies.Lawrence Montague (?), who played Desius, was also "Stonn" in Amok Time
Sal Sanchez
2021-11-16 20:19:15 +0000 UTCSo casualties refers to both injured and dead. So when McCoy says 22 casualties mostly radiation burns, he means 22 injuries.
EricH86
2021-11-16 20:12:45 +0000 UTCShipping Kirk and McCoy? The big ship over the years has been Kirk and Spock. They practically invented "slash fiction" for them.
Joe Concepts
2021-11-16 19:36:17 +0000 UTCThis episode reminds me a lot of the movie The Search For Red October. I'd love to watch you all react to that if you haven't seen it.
Corum Hayes
2021-11-16 19:31:35 +0000 UTCMark Leonard was an amazing actor who potrayed 3 (no spoilers on what the 3rd alien race is) different alien characters and made each different and unique to that race. It makes one wonder what other people or species he could've portrayed if given the chance. Very much like Jeffrey Combs and Suzie Plakson also did as numerous characters.
Brad Barter
2021-11-16 19:29:46 +0000 UTCI was a little kid when this first aired, and I remember being glued to the TV. My favorite stories at that time (from some of my friend's dads) had to do with submarine warfare in WWII. My favorite book was "Up Periscope." This episode was very much based on the kinds of submarine tactics used back then. Right down to the "silent running," which of course makes no sense in space, but it made total sense to my young brain. lol. Silent running in a submarine was essential though, because water conducts sound very well. Even the ejecting of debris was a common tactic among submarines undergoing depth-charge attack, to trick the attackers into thinking they had destroyed the sub. Great episode, and great reaction.
Mark Steckel
2021-11-16 19:24:39 +0000 UTCEasily one of my favourite episodes of TOS. The whole silent section is like the old submarine movies when they couldn’t make any noise otherwise the enemy would know where they were
Angelus-1701
2021-11-16 19:22:31 +0000 UTCThis is a submarine movie, isn't it?
Bob Hughes
2021-11-16 19:20:13 +0000 UTCThe reason why most of the Romulan crew wore helmets is because helmets were cheaper than pointy ears
Colin 3of5
2021-11-16 19:14:10 +0000 UTC
