The Drumhead, Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! S4Ep21
Added 2021-10-05 17:01:02 +0000 UTCMore drama on the enterprise! Happy Trekkie Tuesday! come hang out with the Gal's while they react to more Trek!
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PAULA DEMING
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Comments
I think Paul should always wait to say anything about an episode until after the episode. Let Katrina enjoy the episode without knowing anything about it. Just like everyone did when it was on the air.
Desmond Griffin
2022-04-28 21:54:33 +0000 UTCArguably that is the case with almost all traumatic events, they stay with you. If service required no emotional burderns at all, then no-one could serve in Starfleet for long. For the context of the situtation and question, Picard told the truth. He had recovered physically, regained emotional stability and clarity, and was fully fit to serve.
JXTN
2021-10-13 00:05:35 +0000 UTCJean Simmons was a tremendous Star Trek fan and loved TNG. She actually approached the studio asking to guest on the show. This is the result.
Mark Chrisco
2021-10-07 17:56:48 +0000 UTCThere will always be demagogues.
DarkAshtar
2021-10-07 02:42:43 +0000 UTCNot sure if anyone else has pointed this out, but in the last scene with Picard being questioned, he lied to the committee when asked if he had fully recovered from his experience with the Borg. In a later episode (*) Picard admits that he does not know if he will ever fully recover from becoming Locutus and being responsible for the massacre at Wolf 359.
Satyr359
2021-10-06 20:06:08 +0000 UTCI'd rather they do DS9 when it chronologically starts during TNG's run, that way some of the crossover storylines will line up and stuff.
Nolan
2021-10-06 19:39:56 +0000 UTCGreat episode. I do kinda feel bad for the actor who plays the Admiral. Due to budget cuts we are just going to have you on screen for about 30 seconds and you're just going to walk out. (he might be in other episodes though?)
Chris Lane- Venturi 3D
2021-10-06 14:57:59 +0000 UTCUnrelated to episode comment - After P & K finish TNG, would love to see them react to DS9. Would also love to see reactions to Babylon 5.
Stephen Kronfeld
2021-10-06 13:47:37 +0000 UTCI wonder if Paula should mention when an episode like this is a particularly famous one, like "Measure of a Man", "Darmok", "Inner Light", et cetera. Normally I'd say no so as not to influence Katrina's reception, but considering she pre-emptively described the episode as a cost saving measure, which probably lowered expectations, maybe it would have been a good idea to balance that, haha. Katrina's comment was phrased such it seemed to imply that she went after Picard because she was personally upset/offended by his opposition. I'd counter that I think she truly believes defending the Federation against it's enemies should be achieved by any means necessary, and she sees herself as a perfect representation of that justice, so anyone who opposes her is a true enemy of the Federation, and they must be righteously destroyed. It wasn't consciously personal to her. Also, I can see above people adding it to the example of "Starfleet command sucks", but considering the supervising Admiral abandoned the trial immediately after Satie's outburst, and Satie herself being "retired" (but still clearly active??), I would argue this is the opposite, an example of command demonstrating correct judgement after observation on the ground.
JXTN
2021-10-06 03:45:13 +0000 UTCMost underrated TNG episode EVER. It should be a top 5 but never makes the lists.
Jason Faria
2021-10-06 01:55:32 +0000 UTCThis episode (one of the best in the series, IMO) definitely tackled a lot. It’s subtle, but when the admiral describes the Federation as “the most remarkable institution ever conceived,” that’s definitely a condemnation of American jingoism and the belief held by many today and throughout history that the United States isn’t merely unique, but also superior to all other nations. The United States is treated as a holy, perfect union, better than any that came before or since, and anyone who fails to accept that premise, whether inside or out, is treated with suspicion. This episode also questioned the ethics of “reasonable deception,” when an interrogator or investigator lies to a subject to try to elicit a confession. It’s common and legal in the United States to tell a suspect that someone else already gave them up or that they have evidence they don’t, which is an unfair manipulation of both the guilty and innocent in a situation where they have no agency and are prone to speak impulsively. Conversely, lying to an investigator is a crime. The writers aren’t just telling us be vigilant for witch hunts and McCathyists, but also to examine the abuses that have already become entrenched in our society.
Artemis Zeidman
2021-10-06 01:05:24 +0000 UTCA whole episode of just talking, Worf ruffed up one guy a little but all the major conflict is just words. And it's so captivating, they'll never make a show like this again.
EricH86
2021-10-06 00:15:52 +0000 UTCI don't know WHERE this new wave of "The Federation is terrible" that I keep seeing lately is coming from. Certainly the new era of shows are perpetuating that myth, but I dunno where this idea was birthed from. The Federation is a FAR more ideal society than anything we currently have, and certainly it does not lack for rough edges. But it is not "terrible" for having them, but great "despite" those flaws. Even the Federation needs to fight for it's status as a Utopia. I just don't understand how people can see that struggle to maintain it's utopic identity, and against elements that threaten to drag it down and label the whole society and system as terrible or flawed. Why are people so threatened by the idea of a Utopia, even an imperfect one that struggles for improvement, that they MUST view it as a terrible lie that needs a gritty deconstruction? The idea of the Federation is a perfect ideal that can never be attained, but is constantly struggled for, which drives it to be constantly bettering itself, getting it closer and closer to that ideal everday.
Nolan
2021-10-05 23:52:59 +0000 UTCOne of my favorite episodes! Picard being Picard is always amazing. That being said, it's always amazed me how there seems to be very little legal structure in TNG. There's a couple episodes that involve laws/trials and it always feels like a kangaroo court
AdmiralKnight
2021-10-05 23:38:32 +0000 UTCAllons y Alonzo!
xabdiben
2021-10-05 23:27:54 +0000 UTCDItto. I experienced an investigation like this back in my early-mid 20s when the government went after my employer, and the feds tried leaning, threatening, and intimidating each of us employees to give dirt on the boss. They were bound and determined to find something, anything, they could nail someone on even after it had become apparent that nothing was there. Easily one of the worst experiences of my life to date.
Timothy Hennon
2021-10-05 22:13:16 +0000 UTCSpencer Garrett, the actor who plays Simon Tarses, reminds me of Russel Tovey, who played Alonso Frame in the Dr. Who episode Voyage of the Damned (the Titanic in Space episode).
Robert Hill
2021-10-05 22:01:52 +0000 UTCI feel like this great episode had two bonus bits of fan service that made it even better. First, there’s the ongoing theme of higher-ups in Starfleet and the Federation being terrible, which was a much “beloved” theme from the original Star Trek series. Then there was the Picard interrogation where the franchise maybe for the first time directly addressed the issue that fans have always half-jokingly talked about … that Star Trek captains violate the Prime Directive all the time! It all fits the story perfectly, while providing a little extra amusement for die-hard fans of the franchise.
Andrew Pulrang
2021-10-05 21:09:38 +0000 UTCThough this is a good episode, I don't really like talking about it because it is SO massive in how it's received. Basically, in this polarized culture, I've seen it used to justify ANY number of things from both sides of the aisle. Which is STUPID cause it's not a political left or right message. Anyone can take this episode and twist it to be against pretty much anything, from Cancel culture, political correctness and Vaccine mandates to minority hate, foreign humanitarian injustices, and gender rights. The real issue is that this episode is the START of those debates, not the end. It's not some 'Gotcha!' that Trek fans can pull out to win an argument, though I've seen it used as such far too many times. And in truth, this episode is NOT about ANY of those issues and the debates around freedom therein. It's about allowing FEAR to influence these sweeping decisions, not to say that fear has no place in those decisions, but that we NEED to be aware of the influence of fear on both our and the opposing side's perspectives. To NOT lose our empathy so we can at least see what is driving opposing viewpoints. People fear Vaccine passports because they fear a repeat of historic past injustices - segregation, etc. People fear hate speech because they fear a repeat of historic oppression and hatred being perpetuated. People fear triggering media because they fear the resurfacing of traumatic feelings... Why does our society fear the past so much? To the point that we try to avoid it altogether rather than bear it in mind when society is faced with needing to consider similar actions in order to avoid the injustices those actions caused in the past. I went to mall yesterday and the only way I could eat at the food court was to show proof of vaccine to get into a fenced off area of tables so I could eat. Did it recall a sense of images I remember learning about in school? Yes, but the issue is much bigger than that. I don't think it will be a permanent fixture, it arguably is necessary for the time being, as was the investigation in this episode at first. But if suddenly malls realize it's good for business years after the fact, then no, not okay. In a way, I don't like this episode as it over-simplifies the issue. But again, it is the START of these discussions. the intersection of freedom and fear is huge, and frankly, I don't think our fear-driven, polarized society is ready to properly have those debates again.
Nolan
2021-10-05 21:04:49 +0000 UTCNot only does this episode touch on McCarthyism, it also touches a little on the internment of Japanese descendants in the 1940s. Thrown in concentration camps simply because they descended from people in a country that was an enemy at that time.
Firefly24601
2021-10-05 19:28:57 +0000 UTCGreat review. This episode broke my brain as a child and gave me totally unrealistic expectations for the real world that I still can't (or won't) shake today. I want to exist in their reality so badly. I had no idea it was a replacement for a clip show, so glad this happened instead.
Kirk Deighton
2021-10-05 18:59:20 +0000 UTCI like this episode, but I don't rewatch it often as it can be too emotionally charging in a negative way; for me.
e com
2021-10-05 18:55:47 +0000 UTCWhen I was a kid I thought this episode was boring but when I rewatched it a few years later it became one of my favourites. I've been looking forward to this reaction for weeks and it did not disappoint. Patrick Stewart, man...
Brendon Waldron
2021-10-05 18:22:21 +0000 UTCThis is one of my favourite episodes. So much relevance to it for modern times no matter when it's being watched it seems. I agree with Katrina in mentioning how she liked the way Worf was used within the episode. I particularly like the fact he himself is a victim of guilt by familial association which is brought up within the episode more than once. Of course the situations between Worf and Simon Tarses were different however, they both lied to cover information. The point though is that neither of them lied to cover up any crimes that they themselves committed. I think this drives home the final scene more. Not only did Worf not see the danger posed by Admiral Satie, his own first hand experience of being dealt with using a form of summary judgement did not help him to see the danger at the time. A large indicator that people can facilitate people like Admiral Satie despite experience. People like her can be very persuasive to anybody. Exactly, I think, what Picard meant by having to be vigilant. Experience and knowledge of the dangers only takes you so far.
Peter
2021-10-05 18:21:37 +0000 UTCI think they needed to. The entire episode the viewer was clearly seeing Admiral Satie as the villian when they needed to be paying attention to how easy it was for Worf to go along, or how easy it would have been for the viewer themselves to do the same.
John
2021-10-05 18:21:25 +0000 UTCWhat I love so much about this episode is for the viewer it's easy to see it going wrong, but we know Worf's character and the fact that he went along with it is the key warning that any of us can be swept up by it when we're so sure of our righteous justification. To me, this episode has never been about commenting on others in society doing these things. It's been a warning that we each have the capacity to become the enemy ourselves if we aren't careful.
John
2021-10-05 18:18:19 +0000 UTCGreat episode, I just wish the final scene wasn't so on the nose. It was like the writers were breaking the fourth wall and saying to the audience, "did you get all of that? Do you see what we were doing here?"
Mike
2021-10-05 18:16:31 +0000 UTCI only watched this one once when it first aired and not one time since. Did not like. I felt that there was no way that Picard would have let this McCarthyism red scare hunt go on for as long as it did, no matter how much authority that lady had. One thing that this did reflect all too well is that paranoia and fear are contagious and allow those who succumb to it to be more easily manipulated as we have seen in today's times much to the sociological detriment.
Henchman Twenty1
2021-10-05 17:33:51 +0000 UTC
