The Loss, Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! S4Ep10
Added 2021-07-20 17:00:06 +0000 UTCCome hang out with us on another Trekkie Tuesday as we Get Warped!
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I'm pretty sure that there would be some other imbalances going on in a Betazoid brain, given the loss of an integral part, the telepathy, that would make her emotionally unstable and given to freaking out. After all, the interaction of biochemistry in a brain is never straightforword and always interactive.
Josef Schiltz
2024-03-19 11:49:33 +0000 UTCI am extremely late to this reaction so I doubt you’ll see my comment, but I just had to say something. This episode is one of my favorites from the whole series, and at the same time it always frustrates me so much. I’ve watched this with multiple people as well as watched a couple reactions, and people always seem to agree with what Riker says to Troi about her being uncomfortable not having the “advantage”. Personally, I felt what he said was very out of line, and untrue. I know it’s hard to think of this situation from a real world perspective when abilities like this don’t actually exist, but it’s like Dr. crusher said, Deanna losing her telepathic abilities is no different than if a human were to suddenly go blind. Diana was born an empath, and it has been a part of her her whole life, it’s essentially a sixth sense. Losing that is something devastating and unfamiliar to her, and I feel she has every right to have a hard time dealing with that. What Riker said to her felt extremely insensitive. Can you imagine someone getting in some sort of accident and going deaf and then going into a depression because of it, and then someone who’s been deaf since birth tells them that they have no right to be upset and calls them ableist because they don’t want to be like them? That’s exactly what Riker did. I really think we’re aren’t taking into account that while we see Deanna’s telepathic abilities as some sort of super power, to her they’re just a natural part of living. If she had been on her own planet when she lost her powers this whole situation would’ve been treated very differently because she would’ve been with other people who also have those abilities, and could understand how terrible it would feel to lose that. Because she’s the only one on the enterprise like her, it’s hard for people to sympathize.
Avalon Perry
2023-02-20 10:24:35 +0000 UTCYes I am, but that reason (I know which you're referring to) is not the reason I love that episode the most. It is a reason, but not THE reason.
Arek Schneyer
2021-07-24 20:19:33 +0000 UTCYou two give me my weekly cathartic re-watch of TNG. Somehow you guys getting emotional is contagious. I find myself getting choked up at episodes I've seen a million times, and I love it. That's all I came to say. Thanks!
ScotchBeard78
2021-07-24 02:13:02 +0000 UTCInteresting favorite episode. I take it you're a big DS9 fan? (I won't say anything else to avoid spoiling.)
Bluefox
2021-07-22 10:13:23 +0000 UTCKind of weird when Riker said Deanna’s Betazoid side was aristocratic. Technically, I suppose she is Betazoid royalty.
Matthew Zeidman
2021-07-22 02:15:51 +0000 UTCI would think the only way to write that authentically would be to have her get mad and say that Geordi isn't really blind because he gets a gadget to fix it, and I don't think the show would want to go there. I think it makes sense in-universe that Geordi isn't really close enough to interact in that way with her. Riker is much closer and had known her much longer, so he makes more sense. A patient helping her makes sense. And so does having her interact with the one person who has the best intuition and also on-screen counselling experience. Heck, to me, the way she encountered Guinan seemed a bit forced, as Deanna doesn't come across as being where she'd want to interact with people. Yet she goes to one of the most social places on the ship?
Bluefox
2021-07-21 16:22:10 +0000 UTCWould totally buy a "red alert baby!" shirt! Fun episode, Guinan was amazing as always. Your comments were great. As a math fan, I love the 2 dimensional theory bits, and kinda wished there were more. (of course, I could tell you've seen a specific episode of this season of doctor who based on a comment you made). Next episode is a really interesting one, and the episode after that is my favorite episode of the season. Super looking forward to them both!.
Arek Schneyer
2021-07-21 06:33:22 +0000 UTCBut how would they be able to fit all of Troi's "You don't even know!" speeches into an hour episode if they did that?
Pirateman
2021-07-21 06:32:01 +0000 UTCIs that the first time Riker calls Deanna Imzadi?
Brett Delbridge
2021-07-21 00:32:10 +0000 UTCYou should have Yellow and Red alert baby merch
Brett Delbridge
2021-07-21 00:20:07 +0000 UTCI would buy a "Red Alert, Baby" for my soon to be nephew/niece!!
Richard Saldana
2021-07-20 23:10:47 +0000 UTCI know this isn't a hugely popular episode in the fandom and how it makes Troi look insufferable or something. But the episode does kinda address that she kinda is. But why TF did Geordi not go up and have a conversation with her?! I mean, I love how Riker went and handled it, but as an ACTUAL blind person on the ship, you'd think he'd be the one to have a chat with her cause he ACTUALLY knows something of what she's going through. Especially after that moment during the briefing. I mean, if they WEREN'T cuing up a conversation between them, what was the point of the only other person in the cast who has an ongoing medical issue being the one to put his foot in their mouth?
Nolan
2021-07-20 23:10:20 +0000 UTCFor me, this is one of my skippable episodes. I always liked Troi, but not necessarily some of the episodes centered around her. But after watching it again, it was better than I remembered. And yes, I would totally buy a "Red Alert, Baby!" shirt!
Brian Moore
2021-07-20 21:06:39 +0000 UTCBack in the day when first watching this, I had wished that she had lost her Betazoid abilities completely/ The writers never seemed to know how to deal with it More often than not, whenever she used them in the past, someone would always chime in with a, "Yes, I felt that too.". You wondered why she even bothered to chime in. Honestly, I would have loved to see Troi and Guinan switch positions, Guinan on the Bridge and Troi running Ten Forward. :-
Bruce Bromley
2021-07-20 19:47:00 +0000 UTCI don't remember anything from this episode. I remember it took place and what it was about, but nothing actually in the episode is familiar. Deanna had to go through a lot of emotional progression in a short amount of plot time, that's probably why her reactions felt forced in this episode. I work with Doctors as well as therapists... Overall, Doctors are WAY worse patients than therapists. :D
Firefly24601
2021-07-20 19:36:59 +0000 UTCGreat reaction as always. But this episode has always been a tough watch for me. I get at least some of what they are trying to do here … which is probably to say something about what happens to people who become disabled in some way. As someone with lifelong disabilities, I’m happy to see the topic addressed. But this falls a bit too neatly into a very common disability trope … the disabled person who is angry, rude, and in profound denial until a non-disabled person intervenes and shows them the error of their way of thinking. Then in the end, to top it off, the disability is called off. So lesson learned, but no ongoing consequences or development along those lines. I was interested to hear about disabled people appreciating this episode. It’s not that we don’t have these kinds of reactions, and if it spoke to them that’s great. It’s just that the trope here is so typical and NOT that insightful. This was a fairly decent treatment for its time, but even then it wasn’t nearly as informative or groundbreaking as I’m sure the writers thought it was. Your discussion of ableism after the episode is far more on point than this episode was! On the plus side, on viewing it now, I see that there’s another layer here … an examination of a kind of privilege. Deanna has always relied a lot on a relatively rare ability, so much so that she didn’t even realize it until she lost it for awhile. Then she not only couldn’t handle the actual impairment, but she had trouble not being superior to those around her. Maybe that was the real, top-level objective of the story.
Andrew Pulrang
2021-07-20 19:25:03 +0000 UTCI love this episode because I feel it represents me and people like me.. I am disabled with Cerebral Palsy. Having it all my life, I've always gotten the stares and snide remarks. As I've gotten older, I've had to start walking with a cane and use the carts. No matter how old people get, it seems it gets worse and worse. Some people who aren't disabled don't always realize how much they do and say hurts. This episode made me remember there are other people out there who know what it's like to live a life of pain and suffering every day. I may have a meltdown here or there, but I have to pick yourself up and keep going.
Amy Chlebus
2021-07-20 19:24:07 +0000 UTCSpoilers for Katrina if she has not watched next weeks yet. . . . . I have been waiting for next week for a bit now. We are going to meet who I think will be a favorite for Katrina and I do not mean Keiko even though we will spot her for the first time in next weeks episode.
Dave Hampton
2021-07-20 19:20:31 +0000 UTC"Everyone is getting their own episodes" Checks the title of next week....
Jon Medders
2021-07-20 19:11:02 +0000 UTCThis particular reaction should be called "Gallifrey Gals Get Warped, featuring Camo!" 😻
Firefly24601
2021-07-20 18:39:36 +0000 UTC
