Family, Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! S4ep2
Added 2021-05-25 17:01:02 +0000 UTCOnly two episodes into season four of TNG and its already got Paula and Katrina feeling all the feels! This season is starting off strong and guaranteed to make Katrina into a true Trekkie!
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Rewatching BOBW and this in anticipation for tomorrow. Kat, this episode and BOBW will resonate, and also the next episode of BSG (S3 E6) as it covers similar themes. Protect yourself. ❤️
Troy Convers
2024-11-22 22:44:47 +0000 UTCthe link works from the S4 eps list they posted! https://vimeo.com/807730192/3fad784b45
Brandon
2023-06-23 08:44:37 +0000 UTCthe link works from the S4 eps list they posted! https://vimeo.com/807730192/3fad784b45
Brandon
2023-06-23 08:42:54 +0000 UTC*Is sad* one of the main reasons I added the GGs to my Patreon list was for this reaction that was blocked on YouTube, too
BC_Nerd_42
2023-06-20 05:29:23 +0000 UTCany idea why this video would now be blocked?
david
2023-04-03 23:41:34 +0000 UTCIt might be an unpopular opinion to some, but no matter how many times I've given DS9 a chance, I simply cannot enjoy it. I've watched it from the pilot to the finale, and despite a few good episodes, it just never clicks for me. IMO, part of the appeal of shows like TNG *is* the adventure of the week stories. People sometimes equate serialization with quality, but that's not always the case. DS9 felt very much like a rather dreary soap opera. That said, I know some people really love DS9, and objectively it's a well done show, so perhaps you’ll enjoy it more than I did.
Visible Pixels
2021-06-30 03:43:32 +0000 UTCWell said. I am hoping we will see DS9 at some future point, it goes so much deeper into the character drama aspects.
Jon Medders
2021-06-04 16:51:04 +0000 UTCThis was the first true character-centric episode of the franchise; where the story was driven by the characters' accumulated experiences, rather than the plot informing the characters' actions in the moment. I can see why Gene Roddenberry disliked it, having come from a background of writing episodic television for westerns and police procedurals, and believing that such a format requires enclosed plots that stand on their own; however, there comes a point where the characters become so well-developed that they have to become more deeply shaped by their experiences. For Picard, such a life-altering event as getting assimilated by the Borg isn't something you can simply walk away from. It reminds me of what Frodo says at the end of the Lord of the Rings films: "How do you pick up the threads of an old life? How do you go on, when in your heart you understand; there is no going back. There are some things that time cannot mend; some hurts that go too deep, that have taken hold". The same can be said, both for Picard and the Star Trek franchise as a whole; they can't simply go back to telling "adventure of the week" stories without addressing the arcs of growth that make these people so compelling. We'll certainly see more of that in future episodes, and hopefully series and films (got my fingers crossed that the Gals will persevere beyond TNG).
Alexander Caldwell
2021-06-04 09:16:54 +0000 UTCThis is my absolute favorite episode of Star Trek in any of its iterations. This episode still hits me as hard as it did when I first saw it 30 years ago, perhaps more so now that I have children of my own. Picard's vulnerability with his brother, breaking down and expressing his grief and shame was eye opening for me as a young man. If someone that strong and controlled could cry, it felt like permission to allow myself the same.
Gibraltar-1859
2021-06-02 00:54:45 +0000 UTCYeah I tried it again the next day and it was fine. Must have just been some weird glitch. Thanks for the reply!
Matthew McKinnon-Gray
2021-05-29 21:18:32 +0000 UTCI won’t get into any details, so that nothing’s spoiled for Katrina, but I hope at some point in the distant future, when you’ve finished seasons 4-7, you’ll watch “Generations.”
Matthew Zeidman
2021-05-29 15:32:19 +0000 UTCJust watched it on a mobile device by clicking on the link in the Patreon app. No problem here.
Matthew Zeidman
2021-05-29 15:27:29 +0000 UTCYes, and even with their history he still thought being with family was what he needed. Like he said himself maybe he did think he needed Robert to push him.
Joe Concepts
2021-05-26 20:23:06 +0000 UTCTrue but its also Picard’s brother. He’s the only one he can really let his guard down on since he’s family.
Does What It Do
2021-05-26 17:39:34 +0000 UTCMuch obliged. :)
Joshua Gosdin
2021-05-26 14:59:05 +0000 UTCI always loved the Rozhenkos, but the Gal Gals really made rewatching this something special when previously it seemed somewhat mediocre. Don't apologise for being human Katrina, sharing your experience is a gift and wonderful addition. There are no regulations or requirements on crying.
Pirateman
2021-05-26 14:58:05 +0000 UTCFantastic breakdown
Pirateman
2021-05-26 14:49:30 +0000 UTCOne of the worst parts of Generations (if you can possibly discern such a thing)
Pirateman
2021-05-26 14:43:23 +0000 UTCMost underated episode ever because it depends on the viewer knowing the history of the 3 families.
Jason Faria
2021-05-26 13:54:05 +0000 UTCThat’s interesting, and very perplexing. It’s such a good follow up to BOBW. Considering how shows have developed over the years, character arcs are huge and in some cases focused on a little too much, to the point it can become soap opera-ish. Since most people tune in each week, mostly because of characters, I’d expect that to be a turning point especially for reruns. Any idea what the highest numbers are for reruns?; I’m curious.
Andrew Hogan
2021-05-26 12:37:16 +0000 UTCWhile I LOVE this episode it had the lowest audience numbers of any episode of the 4th season, and the, by an even bigger margin, lowest first rerun of any episode of the 4th season. Thanks to that, the writers were not allowed to do very much at all with longer term character arcs.
Mark Wood
2021-05-26 04:57:53 +0000 UTCJarrod, my bad, didn't hear that exchange between them until after I commented.
Bruce Bromley
2021-05-26 02:21:26 +0000 UTCWhen I originally watched this in high school, I got the idea and understood it all but the depth of things get more obvious all the time. I like how after the start we get some hints that just maybe we can understand Robert a little. I even feel that MAYBE he's not 100% wrong about his brother's arrogance, etc. Whatever the reason for it, Jean-Luc wouldn't settle for not being the best, and when we later hear more about his younger years, he was an arrogant cadet. And when he finally breaks down, he basically admits he's angry with himself that he SHOULD have been "good enough" and "strong enough." And despite his jealousy of his brother, Robert does seem to KNOW his brother. He immediately recognized Jean-Luc was almost running away by thinking about staying on Earth.
Joe Concepts
2021-05-26 02:05:24 +0000 UTCHere with Picard's story they did that writer's trick where you get a characters drunk to let them lose control and reveal things they never would otherwise. Having a sober Picard break down and spill his guts like that wouldn't have felt genuine.
Joe Concepts
2021-05-26 01:57:32 +0000 UTCIs anybody else having trouble playing the video? I’ve tried to play the video in multiple different browsers on multiple devices but no video appears. All I get when I click on the picture is a turquoise background and white text saying “Family, Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! S4ep2” but no actual video. Anyone else having this issue?
Matthew McKinnon-Gray
2021-05-25 23:43:47 +0000 UTCI always remember Picard's story in this and think it was the whole episode. I forget Worf and Wesley and it feels like watching it with new eyes. I'm not always the most emotionally open person so having someone else see this and react so deeply feels like it gives me permission to get emotional over it too. I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed this episode.
Joel Featherstone
2021-05-25 23:07:25 +0000 UTCAs much as I was looking forwards to your reactions to both parts of Best of Both Worlds, I was much more interested in seeing this reaction. This is easily my second most favorite episode in all of Star Trek (original, DS9, Voy, TNG, etc.). Watching this for the first time growing up, this episode is what showed me how truly terrifying the Borg actually were. Seeing Picard finally let out everything he was still dealing with was heartbreaking. It still gets to me, even though I've seen this show enough times to almost be able to recite that monologue in the mud word for word. I agree with Paula that this season has a lot of great episodes coming up. And I am looking forward to seeing all of those reactions!
Antonio
2021-05-25 23:04:11 +0000 UTCIt's generally well regarded, but many consider it not some of the best of the series. For me it's easily a top ten episode of TNG.
Mark Wood
2021-05-25 23:02:06 +0000 UTCYeah, I've been a fan of this episode since it aired originally. I've never heard of anyone disliking it.
Matt O'Keefe
2021-05-25 22:49:27 +0000 UTCJust started watching—my apartment building was hit by a car several years ago, two floors directly below my unit (retiree thought his car was in reverse and gunned it when the car didn’t move, only to jump the curb since it was in drive instead, plowing into the first floor apartment’s patio door). It was weird running into my balcony and looking straight down at the back half of a sedan!
Kathy A
2021-05-25 21:43:04 +0000 UTCIt was a joke.
Jarrod Wild
2021-05-25 21:27:02 +0000 UTCHey now! Don't diss Paula for sharing some BTS info. Anyone that has been watching for a while knows nothing can kill Kat's immersion with what's happening on screen. Especially now that she is so invested with the series.
Bruce Bromley
2021-05-25 21:09:20 +0000 UTCThis is probably the first time I would describe myself as being anything close to THRILLED to re-watching this episode, and these gals did not disappoint. :D ... I've also grown to appreciate this being the first time in the franchise of seeing future Earth outside of San Francisco (I think????). It's so smart to choose a place being preserved by someone who wants to keep things as close to the past as possible so as to avoid what they have to do in the new Star Trek movies with futuristic metropolises. Up until recent Trek, this is still only one of the small handful times we see Earth outside of SF. ... Also, I just noticed for the first time in the opening log that the Enterprise was undergoing both repairs AND a refit, which certainly wasn't near as drastic as the original Enterprise's refit lol.
fcast17
2021-05-25 20:50:29 +0000 UTCToday is my birthday. I just turned 30. My father passed away when I was 16 and was away on business trips most of my life growing up. This episode destroyed me.
Adam Brown
2021-05-25 20:36:33 +0000 UTCSo, this season is gonna be BRUTAL for Katrina, because it's been documented even on the DVD set for Season 4 that the unofficial theme of the season IS Family. Brothers, Suddenly Human, Remember Me, Legacy, Reunion. Future Imperfect, Final Mission. Good Luck Katrina! And I suspect this might be Paula's first time watching this episode since she saw the movies, given some looks, but that's all I say about that.
Nolan
2021-05-25 20:05:52 +0000 UTCOne of the most underrated episodes of TNG. People tend to focus more on the events of Best of Both Worlds and this episode seems to slip under the radar. I even heard one reviewer call it a filler episode. 45 minutes of great character building isn't filler.
Monty Magpie
2021-05-25 19:40:57 +0000 UTCThe reflection on Worf is also very interesting in this episode. As Paula correctly says - he tries to compensate for being raised on earth by humans by being "extra klingon" - a reaction to not fitting in at school - being marked as different, and perhaps feeling different - so he retreated into his identity-by-heritage. But the really interesting part is - his view of what "being Klingon" means is "from the outside" - as someone who idealizes and retreats into the self-narrative Klingon culture presents, without reflecting that it's a narrative, not necessarily reality. Most of the Klingons we meet in Star Trek don't have the same understanding of honor and duty that Worf has, and thinks is integral to being Klingon. But then we can also ask ourselves - aren't collective identities exactly that? Groups of people integrating some shared narrative (which each interprets differently) into their conception of their identity - and how that informs and motivates their behavior. Culture - and societal values - are performative. They are created and constituted by people acting in certain ways - and Worf in turn (as we have already seen and will continue to see) has an impact on Klingon culture - by presenting a mirror - in some aspects an image of their idealized self which shows them how they fall short of that. Very interesting stuff! :)
Michael Bauer
2021-05-25 19:36:38 +0000 UTCI haven't mentioned it yet watching these, but I get far more emotional rewatching these episodes because of how much Katrina is affected by certain stories. It's a nice emotional release and I feel better afterwards. I went through my own really rocky childhood (my sister had it worse sadly), and decades of therapy have helped I guess, but that emotional release is still needed regularly in my life. As for this episode in particular, a couple standout scenes for me are the scene with Guinan and the scene with Jack Crusher.
Jarrod Wild
2021-05-25 19:33:37 +0000 UTCHot damn, I nearly forgot how much this episode makes me cry. But I never forget how much I love it, how it is probably among the top 5 most impactful episodes of TV in general for me (because the character of Picard means so much to me). It's also criminally underrated - and an absolutely integral part of the worldbuilding and character development (I still can't forgive the writers for that thing in Generations) ... and the Rozhenkos are just such wonderful people.
Michael Bauer
2021-05-25 19:17:02 +0000 UTCKatrina, thank you as always. This episode is for sure in my top 5 of the show. I regularly return here when I need to feel shit, or when I need to access or process things. And, yeah, it took Michael Piller and Rick Berman ganging up on Gene Roddenberry to let Ronald D. Moore write this episode - Moore was the one who went in and said, we can't just move on. However, this also means that this episode was filmed fourth in the season, after the coming two episodes. Ultimately, it's about such fundamental, human things: abuse, fathers, conditional love. Jean-Luc and Robert were equal victims of their father's abuse, and I appreciate so much that you recognized it. Jean-Luc kept earning accolade after accolade trying to secure his father's love. But, because he was reaching for his progressive passions instead of his father's traditional values, he never got his father's love. That's why he called it all "rubbish" in his argument with Robert. He never sought valedictorian; he sought love. Robert had cracked the code for his father's conditional love and embraced it. He was the rule-follower, the son he was supposed to be, and the inheritor of his father's emotional burdens. That's why he was so jealous of Jean-Luc. And, that's why, at the end, he lets his own son do something he was never allowed to do: break a rule and dream a little longer beneath the tree. I caught a detail in a recent rewatch. I think Robert was actually hoping to reconcile with Jean-Luc, but when Jean-Luc misidentified the vintage of the dinner wine, it validated all of Robert's petty animus and kept them apart until the vineyard fight. Consider that this episode takes place in 2367, and Jean-Luc says it has been almost twenty years since he had been home. Robert served a bottle of the '47 at dinner, and the disappointment on his face when Jean-Luc gets the vintage wrong is kind of crushing. On the other end of the spectrum, we have the Rozhenkos' unconditional love for Worf. Worf assumes their love is conditional on their lack of understanding of Klingon traditions - "if anyone really understood what I had done, they would shun me." But, when Sergey and Helena assure him over and over that he is their son and that's the end of the explanation as far as they are concerned, it makes my heart pop with rainbows. Sergey and Helena might be the cutest characters in the series. In the middle is Wesley, who never had a chance to receive love from Jack, conditional or otherwise. But, he also assumed it would be conditional, and chased the dream he assumed his father would want from him from grade school: joining Starfleet. From the scene in the pilot where he steps onto the bridge already deeply immersed in Starfleet knowledge straight to the moment when holo-Jack says, "maybe you'll want to try one of these on someday," Wesley had been chasing a dream he had always ascribed to his father. But, look at his face when holo-Jack follows up with, "but, you'll probably be a doctor like your mother." Not even a STARFLEET doctor. Just a doctor. Wesley never considered that his father would ever accept anything less than him following in his footsteps. Y'all's reactions give me life and make rainy days sunny. Thank you.
Joshua Gosdin
2021-05-25 19:06:05 +0000 UTCI may be wrong about the big picture, but the sense I’ve gotten for years is that most fans are less fond of this episode than I am, or than Paula and Katrina are.
Andrew Pulrang
2021-05-25 19:01:27 +0000 UTCEverything changed when the Borg attacked.
Joshua Gosdin
2021-05-25 18:53:54 +0000 UTCReally? That’s surprising, I thought most fans enjoyed this episode.
Andrew Hogan
2021-05-25 18:51:30 +0000 UTCPaula, stop killing Katrina's immersion. Shut up, they're in France!
Jarrod Wild
2021-05-25 18:50:38 +0000 UTCSending love <3 - Kat
Time Lord
2021-05-25 18:50:26 +0000 UTCOh man I haven't even started to watch the reaction and I'm crying already.
e com
2021-05-25 18:48:17 +0000 UTCKatrina at the therapist: You see, this has been a very emotional week, full of pain, death, humiliation, family struggles, relations and I need to talk about it. The therapist: Please tell me about it from the start! Katrina: It all began when the Borg invaded...
Daniel
2021-05-25 18:38:13 +0000 UTCThis is one of my favorite episodes of the whole show. Its amazing.
Jonny Moonsliver
2021-05-25 18:36:00 +0000 UTCThis is one that always gets me because of the dynamic between the Picard brothers. Reminds me a lot of the relationship with my brother, being polar opposites. I've said it before, don't either of you apologize for being empathetic. Hugs to you Kat and Paula. Q can't show up soon enough this season. We need a lighter episode quick.
Bruce Bromley
2021-05-25 18:33:51 +0000 UTCThis is a great follow up episode to Best of Both Worlds. I hadn't noticed before until watching now but the scene around Picard's family dinner table had a great interesting moment where Robert is arguing that technology takes away from being human and Picard is arguing for the pros of adding technological convenience. It was quite a contrast to what Picard had just experienced where technology and biology together had caused so much pain and destruction.
Peter
2021-05-25 18:21:58 +0000 UTCThere is certainly a somewhat dominant opinion on the fandom that his ins’t a great episode. But those who love it REALLY love it. It’s one of my favorites. In a way, it was very “Star Trek” in at least one way. Even the family complications and dysfunctions they depict here are kind of idealized. In the end, the jealous, bullying big brother ends up being the one person perceptive enough to help Jean-Luc truly confront his pain and reconnect with his true self and mission. So while Roddenberry famously wanted Star Trek to be a time and place with no internal conflicts … only external ones … here they strike a balance. They will now start to deal with more internal conflicts, but they will perhaps mostly be the resolvable kind, where everybody essentially has the best intentions. It’s part of what makes so much of the Trek going forward from approximately here so amazing, and such a homage AND an improvement over the original series. It’s both challenging and comforting.
Andrew Pulrang
2021-05-25 18:18:45 +0000 UTCAlso this episode is very poignant for me with the recent passing of my dad :(
Jonathan Emery
2021-05-25 18:13:35 +0000 UTCSuch a great episode. A nice follow up to not only the events of the "Best of Both Worlds" but to other story lines dealing with what happened to Worf in season 3 and Wesley coming to terms with the loss of his father.
thereelnerd
2021-05-25 18:10:29 +0000 UTCThat episode makes me cry, every time. Beautiful episode.
michael mccafferty
2021-05-25 18:01:06 +0000 UTCHere come the waterworks I send the same text alert to neighbors when I eat fast food A quick point about Jean-Luc and Robert’s relationship. The reason Robert was so tough on him, besides his own personal issues, was that he knew Jean-Luc, and he knew if he wasn’t confronted, he would bury those emotions. He needed to force them to the surface so that Jean-Luc could accept and come to terms with what he’d been through. A lot of life is like that, if you’re truly going to move on from something you need to look at it and analyze it, stripped down to the bone or you’ll just keep rehashing it the rest of your life. Robert may not have used the best tactics, but just like with Rene (Uncle), he was honest, brutally honest and it helped the healing begin. For someone who’s life is about control, for the first time (maybe 3rd), he found himself completely helpless and that is a tough realization to come to.
Andrew Hogan
2021-05-25 17:50:08 +0000 UTCGreat Episode! It really gets inside the heads of these characters. Also in regards to opening credits I do not believe that is intended to be Saturn. We saw Saturn in Best of Both Worlds Part 2 and it was yellow gold. The ringed planet in the intro I believe is supposed to be a planet forming in a young solar system (hence the lava flows). Of course this is my opinion and should be taken with a grain of star dust
Jonathan Emery
2021-05-25 17:24:09 +0000 UTCOne of my favourite episodes - brilliant follow up after Best of Both Worlds.
TheHimble
2021-05-25 17:06:18 +0000 UTC
