The Defector, Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! S3Ep10
Added 2021-01-05 18:01:03 +0000 UTCShakespeare, narwhals and Romulan betrayal!! Everything you need in another episode of Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! Happy New Year Everyone! Let's watch some more Trek together!
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Please! Not Murder She Wrote! The number of times I sat through episodes of that while caring for my mother!
Josef Schiltz
2023-11-26 15:15:08 +0000 UTCIn the 1980's there was some heavy stuff going on with Russia's constant threats of nuclear war. I recall some speech that Mikhail Gorbachev made suddenly changing his point of view on war with America because children's pleas got through to him. - I think this is where the really deep spy genre gets going in TNG. Great stuff! - Also, I'm waiting on a new Trek series "Where no Narwal has gone before!"
Mr Kitty
2021-10-05 00:57:25 +0000 UTCYou used to watch "Murder She Wrought", and you never notice that Jessica Fletcher always "just happens" to be there and is always the one to pin the blame on someone. The woman's a cold, calculating serial killer.
Graham Mills
2021-01-13 01:44:57 +0000 UTCI am so excited for the next episode. It is one of my top ten favorites of season 3! :D
Arek Schneyer
2021-01-11 03:40:23 +0000 UTCYes, The TOS and TNG writers sure did like to go through naval history when the script required a starship name: Lexington, Essex, Hornet, Akagi, Yamato, Constellation, Yorktown, Potemkin, Victory, Exeter, Merrimac, and of course Enterprise. (Probably a few I missed as well).
Neil McRae
2021-01-08 18:41:25 +0000 UTCI think they all have their charm to them. Like most people, I couldn’t stand Final Frontier, but the older I’ve gotten, the more I’m able to pull out of that episode. On top of that, with what I’ve heard about what went on production-wise and all the other issues that were a part of that movie, just like Rocky 5, it has its place. Same goes for Motion Picture, when I was younger it was boring, but with time and behind the scenes knowledge, I appreciate it more and more.
Andrew Hogan
2021-01-07 19:27:42 +0000 UTCWhile I mostly agree, I would say that it's not good to watch Wrath of Khan and Voyage Home without Search for Spock in the middle. It's not as good as the films that precede and follow it, but it's still an essential component.
Jeff Seely
2021-01-07 18:04:35 +0000 UTCIf they do get around to watching any of the films. Most certainly they need to hit the evens, Wrath of Khan, Voyage Home and Undiscovered Country.
Bruce Bromley
2021-01-06 16:38:36 +0000 UTCI shall jump in and let you know what Paula has said in the past regarding plans, keeping in mind it can all change. The shorter term the plan is to stick with STNG and also do at least some of the movies that follow on with that, they also plan to react to some of the more popular older Star Trek episodes, presumably when they finish up this season of Star Trek. As for DS9, Paula is currently working her way through the show and has said she is not keen to revisit it again anytime soon. However, she said that before she hit some fairly juicy parts of the storyline, which she is enjoying, so that might change (do keep in mind this is years away at the current rate, so a bit of time behind her might change feelings in that regard also) They are also making good progress with getting well ahead with Star Trek reactions, to the point they might eventually be able to drop 2 episodes per week, while still giving themselves enough room to keep content coming during the times they are not able to record.
Malcolm Wolf
2021-01-06 11:42:50 +0000 UTCThis is a hard one to fit into the theme of escapism this season. Jarok is escaping, yes, the enterprise escapses a conflict, Picard wishes he could escape his higher position to better understand his crew. Jarok ultimately makes the ultimate escape away from his disgrace. He finds refuge in ideals that go against popular patriotic rhetoric, but he does not escape patriotism. I suppose one could say to be careful of how others could use the safe spaces we create to manipulate us. In a way, this episode is about REJECTING escapism. Jarok denies the holographic recreation of Romulous, and accepts the reality of his situation. There is no escape for him at all. The comfortable safe space of his family was used against him and trapped him. And so he tried to escape and warn the Federation, but by then there was no way out. And yet, at the end of the episode, he DOES escape, the only way he can. Reality can affect your escapism, and excessive escapism can affect your reality. moderation, I guess. And be wary about maintaining the balance of them. As for the uniforms, this season they only had the budget to make the new versions for the principle cast. Extras and day players still got to use the old style. I think the middle of the season goes light on the escapism theme, but comes back strong in the back end. We'll see how it shakes out. Always look forward to this every week. (Also, I dunno about everyone else, but I don't think I'd mind just pulling my own DVDs out for the full-length reactions. As long as there was a way to line up my episodes with your reaction footage)
Nolan
2021-01-06 06:31:50 +0000 UTCNaval history - check. Spy thriller - check. Shakespeare - check. My kind of episode.
Andrew Hogan
2021-01-06 05:20:24 +0000 UTCJust a little side note, I’m surprised the Federation even bothered making any other ships considering, they either blew up, got trapped, were always out of range or carried dangerous admirals. The Enterprise would have had it so much easier not dealing with everybody else’s issues. Also, did anybody else get a desire to watch The Voyage Home after watching them play with their stuffed whales. I hope they named them George and Gracie.
Andrew Hogan
2021-01-06 04:40:30 +0000 UTCGlad to see this episode getting the respect it deserves. While I liked the last episode, This is the episode that really kicks off the last two thirds of the season. The subtlety of this episode is what makes it so good. I love spy thrillers, so this is right up my alley. Someone mentioned Winter Soldier in comparison, which I get, but also get Red October vibes from it as well. I suppose all of those stories are similar for the most part. Acting, music, writing all top notch. I’m pretty sure anybody over 30 has seen at least 1 episode of Murder She Wrote. Paula’s reaction to the ship exploding is why I think they should react to Voyager together. She’s already watching DS9, so that’s out, which is why it would be fun watching them both react to a new Trek. I’m not sure how i feel about the Odo comparison. I get why most people view him that way, but to me Spock/Data didn’t understand the emotional part of humanity. Odo understands and even has feelings, so it’s not exactly the same. It’s more of a standard fish out of water type situation, more along the lines of Worf, which made their relationship so interesting in DS9.
Andrew Hogan
2021-01-06 04:33:12 +0000 UTCYes, but thinking about this, BIG SPOILER, discontinue reading here if you haven’t watched StarTrek past this episode. The Cardassians really took over what I believe was meant for the Romulans. We knew basically nothing about Cardassia until season 5 or 6, I’m not remembering off the top of my head. Then we get storylines, where if you replace them with the Romulans it makes a lot more sense from an enemy standpoint. Obviously there can be more than one intelligent enemy, but from a real world viewer perspective, and continuity-wise, it would have made more sense and connected both shows a lot more if it was the Romulans. My guess is, just like the Ferengi for TNG, they wanted a new bad guy for DS9 and that’s why the Romulans basically went into storyline exile.
Andrew Hogan
2021-01-06 04:18:18 +0000 UTCI was with Paula on this one. Didn't remember much about it for some reason, but thought it was really good watching it this time. I think because when I was a kid, most of it went over my head, so it wasn't very memorable.
trylikeafool
2021-01-06 02:23:09 +0000 UTCGood call Paula! According to the book “The Making of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine” by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens Michael Piller and Rick Berman created Odo specifically to act as DS9’s Data/Spock figure.
Matthew McKinnon-Gray
2021-01-06 02:09:46 +0000 UTCOne of my favorite TNG episodes. Tamalock's face when the Birds of Prey Show up. Priceless.
EricH86
2021-01-06 00:06:48 +0000 UTCInteresting analysis on Odo being the "Data" of DS9. It makes perfect sense. He's the "other" that provides an outside perspective on things. It's an interesting development of the Romulans, getting to see a few more interactions. Romulans love to manipulate situations. They never come at your straight on. Klingons are the opposite, they always come straight at you. A bit of trivia for the original series - when the original series aired, both Romulans and Klingons were enemies of the Federation. There was a Klingon Neutral Zone as well. That's why having Worf on the crew was a really big deal.
John
2021-01-05 23:57:16 +0000 UTCHere we go, the rest of season 3 is pretty much great!
Does What It Do
2021-01-05 23:21:55 +0000 UTCA quality episode that takes a few beats in theme and story-telling from Cold War dramas such as Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy and the sort of brinkmanship tension of films like Fail Safe. Some great acting and a tense narrative is topped with a satisfying little twist where the good guys don't necessarily win. It was great to see Patrick Stewart delight in a little bit of Shakespeare love! Not only do they create a little bit of Harry in the night but they do a shout out to Kenneth Brannagh's Henry V which was hitting cinemas around about the same time. If you've never seen it then Branangh's Henry V is a truly great film, very earthy and muddy and rousing. Stewart plays Michael Williams, one of three soldiers visited by the King who has a somewhat cynical view of royalty. Amusingly the actor who plays him in Brannagh's film is also called Michael Williams. The film also stars Ian Holm, Robbie Coltrane, Derek Jacobi, Dame Judy Dench, Emma Thompson, Brian BLessed and - among others - a very young Christian Bale. Go watch it, it's great. Brian Blessed is the medieval equivilent of a tank in it. Funnily enough I've always felt that classic Trek and STNG had a lot, lot more in common with Shakespeare and C.S. Forrester's Hornblower than with Star Wars, and so I've always resented any suggestion it should be made more like Star Wars. There's a reason why Shakespearan stage actors love doing Trek - um, aside from the money. I have always wondered however if the crew have ever put on a production of a David Mamet play, like Glengarry Glenn Ross. "Geordi, I do not understand why this play has so many highly expressive colourful vulgarisms commonly found to the 20th century." As ever, with my love for naval history, it's a pleasure to hear TNG writers throw in little naval references. The two Federation ships mentioned in this are named after the Monitor, which was the Union's first ironclad which went toe-to-toe with the Confederacy's Virginia, and The Hood, which was a beautiful Royal Navy battlecruiser that took on the German ship Bismarck but was lost in a sudden magazine detonation with the loss of every member of her thirteen-hundred crew save three. I know very few people care, but I do like ticking off these historical names every episode when they pop up like a game of Bingo.
Peter Evans
2021-01-05 23:18:25 +0000 UTCSo true. If they had placed one or two more episodes of Romulan hijinks ahead of this one and placed this episode toward the end of the season, viewers might've thought even more that the show was indeed heading into a war storyline.
fcast17
2021-01-05 21:23:19 +0000 UTCExcellent! Brilliant! Magnificent! Your reactions, that is. :) The big star of this episode for me is composer Ron Jones. Every scene resonates with his fanfare and the episode is tenfold better for it. And, yeah, James Sloyan brings the pathos. Watching him and Sir Patrick square off finally is magic.
Joshua Gosdin
2021-01-05 21:19:48 +0000 UTCJeffrey Combs is the King of guest stars
GreyIrohNee
2021-01-05 20:43:56 +0000 UTCOne of the first episodes that give a taste of what's to come with DS9. Bringing espionage and politics into the fray.
Bruce Bromley
2021-01-05 20:38:46 +0000 UTCThis is such a good episode, but I don't like to re-watch it because it's just so sad for Admiral Jarok. Doing the right thing doesn't always turn out well for the person doing it. I won't say why because I don't want to get into spoilers, but I agree with Paula about Odo being the Data of DS9.
Jeff Seely
2021-01-05 20:36:23 +0000 UTCOne of the handful of Ready for Star Trek bit players, like Jeffrey Combs.
Bruce Bromley
2021-01-05 20:33:38 +0000 UTCI was looking forward to seeing you check out this episode. It's very underrated, perhaps because of it being overshadowed by some of the other VERY memorable episodes to come this season. The one coming up next is an underrated episode as well.
Neil McRae
2021-01-05 20:22:56 +0000 UTCHi I may have missed it as I am a relatively new patron but is the plan to eventually watch all of star trek expanding to DS9 and Voyager and if so are you going to view one series than another or mix them in as some of it aired together.
Alex Parnell
2021-01-05 20:11:58 +0000 UTCIt seems Paula remembers this episode in the same way I remembered the last one. Names, the big moments, ways of speaking and lines of dialogue. But no actual memory of most of the episode. The first time I saw this episode, I swore James Sloyan was so so familiar. But I couldn't place him. I must have seen him in X-Files, Quantum Leap or Growing Pains, those are the only shows where I conceivably could have seen him before. And I agree with Paula, Odo does serve the "teaching humanity about itself through this character" role that Data and Spock both did.
Firefly24601
2021-01-05 19:57:18 +0000 UTCsuch a sad episode, but get used to the Jarok's actor, he pops up quite a few times.
GreyIrohNee
2021-01-05 19:45:26 +0000 UTCThis is one of my top ten TNG episodes of all time. I think James Sloyan absolutely crushes it, and goes toe to toe with Picard in acting chops. It's pure tragedy. And it also shows off Picard the master strategist. The surprise Klingon warbirds is a badass moment. My favorite thing in the episode is just hearing the admiral talk about Romulus with such love and passion, because it makes it all the more heartbreaking that he loses it all for nothing.
Jonny Moonsliver
2021-01-05 19:17:09 +0000 UTCI second your thoughts on Andreas Katsulas performance of the Romulus and especially of G’Kar. Actually I put Babylon 5 ahead of TNG because of its story arc.
Stephen Braybrook
2021-01-05 19:16:04 +0000 UTCYeah, pretty sure this is in my top 5 Next Gen episodes. James Sloyan just elevates it for me. We had a cat named Jarok growing up!
Eric
2021-01-05 19:14:23 +0000 UTCThe Klingon theme that kicks in when the BoP decloack gets me every time!
Angelus-1701
2021-01-05 19:03:53 +0000 UTCAndreas Katsulas (the Romulan expecting them at the outpost) is just sooo good at chewing scenes. In TNG as admiral Tomalak of course, but especially as G'Kar in Babylon 5. Wonder if Paula has ever watched it. My second favorite sci-fi show directly behind TNG - and the most well executed, coherent multi-season arc ever IMO. :)
Michael Bauer
2021-01-05 19:00:49 +0000 UTCOne of my favorite episodes. This is probably a grossly exaggerated comparison, but this episode for TNG is like the Winter Soldier for the MCU. It's a bit different. Possible espionage in play. The Enterprise virtually on its own (with only laggy non-live communication with command). Trying to figure out what step to take to avoid a war, even it means doing something like entering the Neutral Zone.
fcast17
2021-01-05 18:16:09 +0000 UTC
