The Enemy, Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! S3Ep7
Added 2020-12-15 18:01:01 +0000 UTCThe Enterprise clashes with a Romulan warship while trying to rescue Geordi from a desolate and deadly planet.
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Still catching up... I, too, found the discussion between Picard and Worf interesting, BUT... Picard begs Worf to do the right thing and implies not doing the right thing might lead to an outbreak of war between the Federation and Romulans – but is PETTY at the end when he orders Worf to take the lift with Geordi and the Romulan? Come on, Captain Picard... When Worf didn't "do the right thing", he put you in the VERY SAME position, and you couldn't bring yourself to order Worf to donate a little blood in order to prevent a potential war? That always didn't quite sit right with me. That, to me, crossed quite a line. Just to humour your security officer's feelings, you risk a war that could mean millions of lives lost? Sounds like your one-against-the-many-meter's a bit off there, buddy.
Patrick Armbruster
2021-02-20 12:09:44 +0000 UTCAmbassador G'Kar was my favourite character from B5. I got so excited when I saw his name in the credits. :)
Craig O'Flaherty
2020-12-17 10:32:08 +0000 UTCThe whole idea of America as a diverse nation, E pluribus unum: out of many, one. Many individuals coming together from diverse backgrounds to form a nation where the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts. That has been a core ideal for the US since the 18th century.
John
2020-12-16 23:51:47 +0000 UTCWell we live in a very weird situation where we celebrate individuality and unity at the same time which in my opinion is basically impossible. Having differences is great and makes us unique, but that’s also what is used to separate us. America is about inclusion and freedom and acceptance, but the more people with different opinions you throw into the mix, the more chance there is that you’re going to have difference of opinions. Each incident will have a different result based on the individuals involved and their moral compasses. Of course the alternate is we all pull in the same direction like lemmings without any individuality at all and we never question anything which history has shown us is also dangerous. I’m sure we’ll find a happy medium, but I don’t think it will be anytime soon.
Andrew Hogan
2020-12-16 13:33:47 +0000 UTCGood comment. This is why I won't argue politics online, I'll only talk them over a pint down the pub.
Peter Evans
2020-12-16 12:49:59 +0000 UTCGood film Enemy Mine, worth seeing folks!
Peter Evans
2020-12-16 12:47:08 +0000 UTCAt times I kept expecting the camera to cut back to G'Kar being on the viewscreen! :D
Peter Evans
2020-12-16 12:46:32 +0000 UTCWhen they bust out the palm punches, you know you're in Star Trek land. Great intro to an episode, and the music is on point. Such a gripping tense soundtrack hinting at the mystery of an urgent mission and a ticking clock. Take a bow composer Ron Jones. Centurion? Further evidence the Romulans are Sneaky-Space-Romans. I love how wonderfully sci-fi cornball Star Trek can be. Great work again from Andreas Katsulas as Tomalak. He brings such relish to the role. A year later he would be Ambassador G'Kar in Babylon 5, perfectly balancing sneakiness, pride, honour, humour and glimmerings of redemption. There's an interesting variation on the 'we must work together to survive' scenario where G'Kar is placed with a enemy in a survival situation, and where G'Kar takes the option of non-cooperation, preferring both their deaths - and with a good reason for doing so. Great times, but here he makes a worthy view-screen adversary for Picard. You can tell he likes playing the 'Great Game' in his dealings with Picard. In all, top episode where everything works like gangbusters. Season One TNG would have Picard talk Worf around and A VERY IMPORTANT LESSON would be learnt. Season Three has grown immeasurably in story-telling prowess, by allowing flaws to creep into the characters and acknowledging that there are situations where Picard can't always cook up a perfect solution. So how many hours do you think Geordi spent soaking in the biggest bath on the Enterprise after that one?
Peter Evans
2020-12-16 12:44:25 +0000 UTCThats an excellent point Talmet I hadn't thought of that. Then the question that can be put to us, would we violate an individual's wishes or morals to save others? How many others? Thankfully an interesting dilemma that most of us will never have to face.
Zegron
2020-12-16 12:25:58 +0000 UTCI agree to a point, I would definitely say that Sisko makes more morally grey decisions, perhaps because of the situations he was put in.
Zegron
2020-12-16 12:19:36 +0000 UTCLOVED him as Tomalak. But he will always be G’kar in my heart.
Anthony Wickizer
2020-12-16 09:24:37 +0000 UTCI think they were saving some money and just reused the final shot from the episode "Contagion". The last time they had a tiff in the Neutral Zone.
Bruce Bromley
2020-12-16 08:32:47 +0000 UTCOh absolutely! I definitely just got a little sassy there at the end 😂 But I definitely agree with you there - Kat
Time Lord
2020-12-16 07:00:04 +0000 UTCI could never part from my babies! they are top priority! When we recorded these Trek episodes I had literally just moved (thankfully good news!) and my internet and whole set up was not gonna work 😂 My friend was gone at work and I was able to use the space safely on my own, thankfully! - Kat
Time Lord
2020-12-16 06:58:35 +0000 UTCEXACTLY!! 😂 - Kat
Time Lord
2020-12-16 06:56:30 +0000 UTCI really appreciate you both still reacting even though life keeps throwing curve balls.
Malcolm Wolf
2020-12-16 06:31:09 +0000 UTCTo me, the honorable thing was to not do the transfusion...The patient refused it. Forcing a patient to receive a medical treatment they don't want is not only unethical, it is extremely illegal in, I think, every country on earth. So, it is almost certainly illegal in Star Trek as well. Before the patient refused, you can argue over whether it is honorable for Worf to not do the transfusion...but after the patient says "no," there really isn't any logical or ethical argument to make.
Talmet
2020-12-16 05:36:00 +0000 UTCIt's kinda unusual for a character to get two focus episodes back to back. And again, this episode is about escaping escapism/comfort zones. Obviously escaping the planet and a tense political situation, but also escaping the comfort of "othering." It is so easy to hate those that're different, or somehow wronged you, and build up this whole idea of them as "the other," with justifications and examples to verify that hatred. Especially when a distance is maintained from that Other. But this episode explores how that comfort zone of distrust and hatred can be really damaging, and ultimately built on misconceptions. Geordi and Bakra HAD to put that aside in order to survive, and ultimately they came to respect each other, and gain a new viewpoint on each other. Worf, he could not get past his comfort zone of hatred, but he saw what staying there cost and struggled with it. It is easy and comfortable to build a hostile picture of others in our heads, and retreat to that when faced with a person or viewpoint or culture we don't agree with. We escape to the idea that those speaking it are wrong because they are a "them." This will ultimately lead to misunderstanding, conflict and cycling hatred... could a MAGA supporter reach out to a lib they'd like to own, when they needed help? Would a Democrat trust a Republican in a bind? Can a Remainer and Brexiter see eye to eye? A Cop and a BLM protester? Are a Straight white cis guy and an LGBTQ/minority able to listen to each other on the internet without starting off with a pre-judgement of the other's character? This world is so full of "Others" and hostile viewpoints, because those are so EASY to have. But what damage are we doing to ourselves with all of them? Labels are nice for classification and individual identity, but they divide society. Notice how it went from Lieutenent and Commodore to Geordi and Bakra. The labels and ranks didn't matter, because they helped to "Other," but once cooperation was achieved, it was Geordi and Bakra. Names were all that mattered. Labelling yourself is fine, but don't let it keep you from understanding and communicating with "the Other." We're all better off the less we divide ourselves and the more we work together. Don't fall into the trap of easy distrust.
Nolan
2020-12-16 02:35:05 +0000 UTCI like to think the Enterprise pulled a U turn off-screen and escorted them to the neutral zone.
Geordie Joe
2020-12-16 01:22:29 +0000 UTCSomething seemed a little off during this reaction, NO CATS! :-) Katrina, I do hope you were able to take yours with you to the new abode.
Bruce Bromley
2020-12-16 01:14:28 +0000 UTCEven though it's a well worn troupe, two enemies having to set aside their differences and work together, I do like this episode and the juxtaposition between Geordie's and Worf's actions.
Bruce Bromley
2020-12-15 22:38:29 +0000 UTCIn the future i can't wait to tell new Patrons how we once watched Gallifrey Gals stream from a broom closet, with suspect lighting techniques. Like my Grandfather told me he walked to school in the snow.
paulh7791
2020-12-15 22:20:14 +0000 UTCHow can they escort them to the neutral zone, when they go off in opposite directions? :P
DragonWolf Entertainment
2020-12-15 22:11:58 +0000 UTCAn excellent episode. Kat may not know, but in the original series, Klingons and Romulans both were enemies of the Federation. Having a Klingon officer on the Enterprise was a BIG deal when the show premiered. Worf does have some good character growth, but he is always steadfast in his convictions. Those convictions may change, but he doesn't make exceptions lightly. At the end it makes sense Picard sent Worf with Geordi to escort the Romulan to the transporter room. Worf is chief of security and the Romulan is a member of a hostile military.
John
2020-12-15 21:44:33 +0000 UTCThis was the first episode directed by David Carson, who would go on to direct the film "Star Trek: Generations". Andreas Katsulas (Commander Tomalak) would go on to play Ambassado G'Kar on "Babylon 5", another great sci-fi series you should see at some point. If you're watching Original Series episodes, I would highly recommend "Journey to Babel", which MAY be helpful before seeing a TNG episode that will be coming up this season. ;)
Neil McRae
2020-12-15 21:34:29 +0000 UTCYeah I was talking about my cat but I did edit my comment to avoid confusion.
Eric
2020-12-15 20:50:48 +0000 UTCWell he might've been talking about one of his cats rather than the characters of the same name mind. But yeah please do keep it spoiler-free as much as possible guys
Alistair Hodges
2020-12-15 20:24:28 +0000 UTCAnd yeah Commander Tomalak was awesome 😁👍 epitomy of the sneaky magnificent b*stard lol, a perfect rival for Picard (believe Patrick Stewart himself is the one that kept asking for Tomalak to be brought back as a recurring character haha), and one of my favourite characters in the whole show, AND of course played by one of the greatest sci-fi actors EVER. R.I.P. Andreas Katsulas
Alistair Hodges
2020-12-15 20:11:20 +0000 UTCI always thought of the difference in the Romulan and Klingon "honorable" death it Klingons want death in a glorious battle or through honorable service where as Romulans it is whatever is good for the Romulan Star Empire no matter the context of the action.
Rylee
2020-12-15 20:03:51 +0000 UTCAt the time, I saw this episode as a more simplistic rip-off of Enemy Mine. But seeing it again, I am impressed as Kat with the actor who played the Romulan. I am also impressed with the episode actually letting Worf refuse to do the transfusion, as well as actually having the Romulan in question die as a consequence of Worf's decision.
Firefly24601
2020-12-15 19:58:34 +0000 UTCLove Tomalak. As kids, we named one of our cats after him. But I don't think I'll ever love another cat as much as I did K'Ehleyr.
Eric
2020-12-15 19:58:23 +0000 UTCGreat episode, I love this one too for much of the same reasons 🙂 and I'm glad you saw it from both points of view there a little more at the end, as I was actually rather annoyed when you said that Worf needed to be 'taught a lesson' there; Regardless of how the actor feels and regardless of how we might feel,what matters is how the CHARACTERS feel, and what humans consider to be honourable is not necessarily the same as what a Klingon or Romulan would. And also, as for morality, as you yourselves said in the episode, the dying Romulan himself said very clearly that he didn't WANT the transfusion in the first place (and forcing a patient to undergo a medical operation against his will certainly doesn't sound very morally sound to me under ANY circumstances); and he never WOULD have accepted it whether Worf did it willingly and voluntarily or not, never from a Klingon, as to the Romulans they're just as bad as well in a way Humans would never be seen, Romulans and Klingons as is said BY Geordi in a later episode have been total, absolute blood enemies for 75 years and, UNLIKE with the Humans and the Klingons, nothing big happened to actually CHANGE that relationship in that time. So yeah this isn't just a petty grudge but something a Human with Human sensibilities (especially one living in the Federation and in the 24th century when war between Humans has virtually become a non-issue), probably indeed COULDN'T ever fully understand
Alistair Hodges
2020-12-15 19:52:31 +0000 UTCRIP Andreas Katsulas
Firefly24601
2020-12-15 19:50:58 +0000 UTCI’m fairly certain they had Gates McFadden wear a wig, which is why her hair suddenly got longer, but I’m not sure when she started wearing one. I will say she looks better with longer hair in my opinion. I believe this is the third time seeing the Romulans, the first was The Neutral Zone, the second was Contagion. I never considered the Romulans the enemy in TOS, I always felt the Klingons were. The Romulans were much more reclusive. This isn’t one of my favorites, I’m not sure why, it just falls a little flat for me, but I do like that Worf let him die, it probably isn’t very traditional Star Trek of him to make that decision, but that’s what makes Worf unique. I never thought of any of the Captains hot headed, they definitely have their moments, but, it’s not like they’re Admirals. Katrina is becoming more of a Trekkie each episode, she’s starting to notice continuity errors.
Andrew Hogan
2020-12-15 19:24:29 +0000 UTCI never realized we had double Geordie episodes in this part of the season. Anyways, a good episode.
fcast17
2020-12-15 19:12:08 +0000 UTCI am pretty sure Gates McFadden wore wigs (and various ones) throughout the show, btw.... Thanks for making my Tuesdays a little more awesome!! Happy to support you. I think I look forward to this more than the most recent episode of Discovery each week. I was 12 years old when this season aired, I remember it like it was yesterday.
Joshua Langweil
2020-12-15 19:11:26 +0000 UTCWhat a 180 from the Geordi story in the last episode! This is not even in my top 20 episodes but it's superb in its direction, editing, performances, even the attention to detail in prop and set design. Worf's story is excellent too, leaving it unresolved, and that last scene between Worf and Picard is really something to reflect on knowing after the fact that the Romulan was dead anyway.
Jarrod Wild
2020-12-15 19:06:16 +0000 UTCI dont see either Sisko or Picard as hot-headed. I feel that comes with be unreasonably angry. Both get angry or authoritarian when the situation requires it.
Josh G
2020-12-15 18:39:43 +0000 UTC
