EARLY ACCESS - Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home | NEW Star Trek fans FIRST TIME REACTION
Added 2023-10-09 14:00:08 +0000 UTC
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Guys, I know this is way off topic, but I just watched “Charlie X”. As soon as Spock reports that the Antares is destroyed, a crewman comes over the com about putting “meatloaf in the oven, and now its turkeys. Real, live turkeys.” Dude! It was Gene Roddenberry’s voice! He recorded his own voice into the show as a regular crewman. Did this ever happen again?? Ive been watching Star Trek all my life and never caught that! Check it out guys! His voice is imprinted on the original show forever!
Chris S.
2023-10-11 00:45:19 +0000 UTCCan you imagine what the Paramount execs thought after reading Roddenberry's proposed script for Star Trek 2? "Now, let me get this straight: you think sending our 2 heroes back in time so they can pull the trigger and assassinate John F Kennedy is a good idea."
Collin Freeman
2023-10-10 22:23:54 +0000 UTCZero reason for them to be given any specifics on who is or isn't in future movies. Unreal 😮💨
James Bottas
2023-10-10 22:07:02 +0000 UTCOf course we have it now, we saw Scotty give the guy the formula in 1986!!
Bret Kay
2023-10-10 18:53:31 +0000 UTCSpoilers??
Andreas Schmitt
2023-10-10 18:05:19 +0000 UTCSomething I find amusing. Is we actually have Transparent Aluminum now. The 200 years of pollution comment slew me.
Badmiral
2023-10-10 04:10:21 +0000 UTCYeah the Red Dwarf episode is awesome
Travis Boyle
2023-10-10 03:18:52 +0000 UTCThe probe implied whales are an alien species that have been sending regular messages back to their planet, but then something happened and all contact was lost. But it could have been hundreds of thousands of years, and the probe only just reached earth. The probe was not trying to destroy human tech, it was simply truing to communicate with its people. As far as the trilogy, it’s Spock dying, Spock brought back but not all there, and in this one he is completely back. Also enterprise lost, and enterprise back. Kirk starts as an admiral but ill suited to it, and then he gives everything up to save Spock, and then it comes round to him being back as captain. Seems like a Character based trilogy to me. As far as the time period- I was 26 when I saw this in the theater, and all those references were fresh! We could so relate. There was a strong save the whales message at the time. We were in the Cold War so the theater was filled with laughter when Chekhov was asking about nuclear wessels 😄. The authors Kirk lists as giants of literature are all trashy mass market authors. This movie doesn’t age as well as the others because so much of the fun is linked to living in that time. I still love it. TOS had comedic episodes, and this was like one of those. Many people think this is the best of the films but I still stand by 3 being the best. That one hit all the TOS notes and was nearly a perfect trek film. I do think the next two films are weaker but still very watchable. They are all Trek episodes in a way. Some serious, some comic, some adventurous, some not quite hitting the mark, some nearly perfect.
Crankygrandma
2023-10-10 02:14:26 +0000 UTCThings I remember about this movie: I think the whale story idea came from Leonard Nimoy with Nicholas Meyer writing many of the 20th century scenes developing ideas that he did not get to use in his movie 1979 time travel movie Time After Time that was also associated with San Francisco and featured two actors with later prominent Star Trek movie roles. I think the rest of the scenes were mostly written by producer Harve Bennett. There was supposed to be a scene where Sulu meets a young boy who he discovers is one of his ancestors, but the very young boy was too scared and nervous to do the scene. Movie features Majel Barrett's final performance as Christine Chapel. I remember thinking that the end scene where they were given the Enterprise-A was a bit much, but I think the novelization says that it was supposed to be the USS Atlantis with it repainted at the last moment; I think Rodenberry claims that it was actually the USS Yorktown. Jane Wyatt who played Spock's mom is also famous for playing the mother in the TV series Father Knows Best where one of her daughters was Elinor Donahue who played Commissioner Hedford in the episode Metamorphosis; apparently Jane Wyatt met her husband in the 1920s at the home of future president Franklin Roosevelt. I have or had a Star Trek book somewhere which described all the species shown at the end of the movie; I need to find that.
Chtphr Rrr
2023-10-10 00:36:26 +0000 UTCYeah, if I google transparent aluminum, the first entry is the wikipedia entry for aluminium oxynitride. It looks like its patents go back to 1980, 1984, 1985, and 1993, so maybe it was actually being created while the movie was being created. I thought someone had just decided to create a transparent aluminum substance after seeing the movie, but perhaps that is incorrect.
Chtphr Rrr
2023-10-09 23:53:23 +0000 UTCRoddenberry was apparently a bit obsessed with JFK and I think he modeled Kirk a bit after JFK. Actually there is a somewhat similar plot in the 1997 season 7 Red Dwarf opening episode Tikka To Ride. That is how I learned that JFK airport used to be called Idlewild Airport.
Chtphr Rrr
2023-10-09 23:44:43 +0000 UTCStar Trek movies and most Eddie Murphy movies were released through Paramount. I think that is why it was considered. I think Eddie was a pretty big Star Trek fan.
Chtphr Rrr
2023-10-09 23:37:35 +0000 UTCWhoa, please avoid straight up spoilers like that, Deborah
James Bottas
2023-10-09 23:07:50 +0000 UTCST VI is an underappreciated gem, and Plummer was absolutely brilliant in it.
Gaius Frakking Baltar
2023-10-09 20:37:49 +0000 UTCI guess will have to wait a while now for the last 2 movies. Of the two my favorite is Star Trek VI - The Undiscovered Country. Nicholas Meyer would return to direct. Kirk's adversary in this one is Chang, a Klingon played by Christopher Plummer. Their friendship went back to the days when they both were still in Canada working in the theater and TV. Shatner was the understudy to Plummer in a production of Henry V and had to take over the lead role when Plummer got sick.
Deborah Osika
2023-10-09 17:48:05 +0000 UTCScientist have since discovered how to create transparent aluminum. I wonder if the scientists who discovered how to do that saw it on this movie and decided they should try to make that for real https://4dproducts.co.uk/transparent-aluminium-see-through-metal-is-now-a-reality/
Jack Fletcher
2023-10-09 17:26:23 +0000 UTCTime travel was one of Roddenberry's ideas for the second Star Trek movie. One of the scripts had the Klingons use the Guardian of Forever and go back to the 60s and causes President JFK not to be assassinated. At the end Spock had to assisinate JFK to restore the timeline.
Travis Boyle
2023-10-09 16:44:15 +0000 UTCI like the "Next time.." teaser at the end. Nice touch
James Bottas
2023-10-09 16:34:37 +0000 UTCShatner's not stupid, he certainly has an ego but Eddie Murphy had already done Beverly Hills Cop and that movie was a massive success, it was the highest grossing movie released in 1984, it made four times as much as The Search for Spock. I think Shatner would have loved to star in a movie with Eddie Murphy, it could have given Star Trek a massive boost.
Phillip Grischa
2023-10-09 16:27:41 +0000 UTCGlad you guys are working your way through all the Trek. ST IV "the one with the whales" is my favorite T.O.S era movie. I'm really excited though to see your reactions to TNG.
Jon
2023-10-09 16:26:58 +0000 UTCI don't know if William Shatner would be down with Eddie Murphy upstaging him :-)
Deborah Osika
2023-10-09 16:04:34 +0000 UTCYears later, Eddie admitted his regret at rejecting the Star Trek gig.
Mark Chrisco
2023-10-09 15:42:04 +0000 UTCReimagining the Italian dinner scene but with Eddie Murphy is pretty hilarious, but yeah glad that didn’t happen
Josh (Target Audience)
2023-10-09 15:12:37 +0000 UTCWe dodged a bullet in this movie, In that we almost didn’t have the female Doctor Who was the citation biologist We almost got Eddie Murphy as a Berkeley citation biologist. In the end it was decided it would actually distract from being Star Trek
Thicketdweller
2023-10-09 14:11:23 +0000 UTC
