What Is Going On?! | MADOKA MAGICA The Movie: REBELLION REACTION
Added 2024-05-16 20:01:53 +0000 UTCIncredible and confusing! Don't roast my smooth brain too much please. One of the most impressive movies I've seen yet!
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What you said about Homura being human, just like the other. Well….ya know what didn’t warp, bend, and break the others? More than a decade of repeating countless days, consumed with ephemeral hope and cursed knowledge. If Homura never showed after effects of that living hell she existed in alone, I would have eventually lost the immersion. NO ONE is going to go thru that shite and come out the other side an”cute awkward teenager.” The fact that she never went full sociopath and slaughtered everyone except for Madoka, just to see if that worked, is practically uncanny. If the worst she did was kidnap and brainwash her crush, while allowing for the dead Magical Girls to have a second chance at happiness, I’d say she gets a bronze star, at least.
Harley Burnie
2025-07-24 14:55:21 +0000 UTCYup. 8 times. That’s how many times it took me to have a firm grasp of wtf this movie was about. Just like Donnie Darko, which I also love greatly to this day. Make me think! Make me feel, damn it! That’s what I crave in a movie.
Harley Burnie
2025-07-24 14:49:07 +0000 UTCif anyone wants a great look into homura, here's a great video essay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRYrrCalsyw&t=14s
Joshua Willoughby
2024-05-17 12:20:18 +0000 UTCAlso, when Homura takes over the universe, her shield is the pattern made over it. so her wish gave her the power to protect a god, by turning her into a god, and making the entire universe into something that would protect madoka
Joshua Willoughby
2024-05-17 09:44:57 +0000 UTCI believe in Homura supremacy
Ateroba
2024-05-17 03:23:50 +0000 UTCFUN FACT: When this movie came out, the ENTIRE Madoka Magica fanbase was split almost 50/50. Half of us understood and accepted Homura's decisions. The OTHER half denied it and chose to ignore it as part of their "canon." This is why you've heard that a good chunk of people STOPPED after the 12 episodes because they probably heard from a few people that the movie "isn't worth watching." The split was such a hot topic for a few years that there are DOZENS and DOZENS of video essays that people have made specifically on Homura as a character and her motivations to defend her character. They're all fascinating to watch by the way! As for Homura herself: she has stayed true to her character from episode 1 all the way to the end of Rebellion. She's always been a selfish lover that would put anything and anyone in harm's way as long as she can protect Madoka. In this case, her decision was set in stone AT the flower garden scene right before she realized she turned into a witch. When Madoka told her that she would NEVER want to separate herself from the people she loved as it would hurt her, Homura locked in on that line specifically. After hearing that, Homura committed to saving Madoka once more. This was why she tried to die in the labyrinth at first to hide Madoka's godly form from the Kyubeys. Once that failed, and she was brought back to reality she stole Madoka's authority to protect her once more (but in a different way). If Madoka remains as the 'Law of the Cycles' it will only be a matter of time before the Kyubeys eventually return to trying to experiment once more but on a different magical girl that Homura will have no control over. In her selfish love for Madoka, she chose to defy Madoka's wish of protecting the magical girls by overtaking her. In this new world, Madoka is mortal and the Sayaka and Bebe, who followed Madoka, were caught up in the new universe and rendered all of them as mortals again (alongside Mami and Kyouko). Homura created a new universe where Madoka could finally live a happy life with her friends and family, and those that got dragged into the new universe, ALSO can finally live happy lives together as well. THAT is functionally what the new universe is: a happy lie. As for how: many of us like to believe that BECAUSE Homura's powers were the reason that Madoka attained massive amounts of karmic destiny, Homura should (as a byproduct) also attain power of a similar capacity. Her wish's wording to "have the power to protect Madoka" should functionally equate to be strong enough to fulfill her desire to protect Madoka. If, in Homura's mind, Madoka needs to be PROTECTED from her godly status, her wish should functionally provide the power to do so. You asked what timeline we're in. And to answer: we're ESSENTIALLY in the same timeline that Madoka made in episode 12, but tweaked slightly by Homura. Homura stated that she stole only a small part of the Law of the Cycles. That part being the mortal form of Madoka. So, in this new universe, the FUNCTION of the 'Law of the Cycles' is still operating to save magical girls from turning into witches. So, in essence, wraiths are still here and magical girls still disappear after falling into despair BUT there is no floating Madoka that appears before them when she takes them away. This also answers your question as to why Madoka approached Homura in the first place to take her away. Madoka was already doing so in episode 12 with the other magical girls. She appears before them, destroys their soul gem, and takes them away with her. Madoka was about to do the same thing with Homura before being grabbed. Homura created a system that could essentially function without the presence of Madoka in it while also allowing Homura herself to exist in a form that is somewhere in between a mortal and a concept. You can see that being the case as she phases in and out of Mami's and Kyouko's perception before Sayaka confronts Homura. The tragedy of Madoka and Homura is one of my favorites in the sense that both of their wishes collide with each other. Madoka wants to sacrifice herself for the benefit of the universe, while Homura wants to save her in the sense of giving her a life to live. Both wishes CANNOT coexist peacefully without complications, and we potentially expect the falling of this new universe in the next movie. The cracks WILL show, and shit WILL go down. For over a decade now, we've been holding onto our seats WAITING for this next movie and we're finally here. Fun fact as well: in 2015, they released a 4 minute trailer that they titled "Concept Movie" which we all thought was going to lead into the next movie, but they fell completely silent on Madoka Magica's progression immediately following that. I guess the writers felt that their "Concept Movie" needed some fixing or perhaps the staff they wanted for this project were too booked/busy to participate so it fell into a hiatus. We don't FULLY know the details as to why it took so long, but i don't care now that we're so close. This has been a wild ride, and Homura is STILL my favorite character of all time! I joined your Patreon to see these reactions fully uncut and I'm glad I did! Thank you for reacting to my favorite series and even though you currently don't like Homura THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. I've seen plenty of people have varying opinions of her and as long as you can see and understand WHY she did what she did (and that it makes sense to you) then that's great! Her morally gray standing is fascinating and her resolve is unwavering but it's also very complex. Thanks again for watching Madoka Magica!
Nakirium
2024-05-17 00:07:18 +0000 UTC2:18:45 The Law of Cycles brought them with Her to save Homura, and then they held onto Madoka's memories until the right time to give them back. Now, you're words make me ask a question....did they know about Homura's labyrinth? Did they know that Madoka would get stripped of her memories? Did Sayaka and Nagisa come after Madoka was snagged by Homura? Idk!!! Never thought about it before.
Harley Burnie
2024-05-16 23:47:44 +0000 UTCYa know, when Matt asked that, I actually thought just what you said. Would Homura really experience over 100 "lives" while living with such focused intent, and not end up being changed by that, more than just mental and emotional trauma? Homura and Madoka are the TWO focus points of all of those different "worlds " Madoka being given every moment by Homura, and Homura losing everything all the time for Madoka. I think they were both forged and tempered by that. One willing to give her all, and one yearning to take everything. Damn, glad you commented.
Harley Burnie
2024-05-16 23:42:00 +0000 UTCI mean, we don't know the details of the new universe. Are there still Magical Girls? What exactly is Homura using the Incubators for? Is there still a Law of the Cycle, but now just an impersonal concept (since Homura took the "Madoka" out of it). I guess we'll have to wait for the new movie. Will you also watch the trailer for it? It came out like half a year ago I think.
MrGaldor123
2024-05-16 23:26:02 +0000 UTCAs for why Homura even had the power to something like she did at the end, there is a popular theory: Look at the wording of Homura's original wish from episode 10. She wishes to redo her meeting with Madoka and (now the important part) to become strong enough to protect Madoka. She heard Madoka say the things in the flower field, and became convinced that Madoka needed saving again - meaning that her wish was not fulfilled, and the power of her wish gave her the power to tear Madoka down from Heaven, to split the mortal and divine halves of the Law of the Cycles. Now you could wonder how her wish could be so strong - we know that the power of the wishes depend on the karmic destiny of the girl making the wish. Well - Homura's time looping essentially created the (almost) all-powerful goddess Madokami. I would argue that this feat would give Homura all the karmic destiny she would need in the end :D
MrGaldor123
2024-05-16 23:04:22 +0000 UTC1:46:40 Mami was not sent in to save Homura. Mami is just Mami. She is still alive. Sayaka and Nagisa/Bebe are dead, and thus, a part of Madokami. They are there to remind MADOKA of her memories, not Homura.
Harley Burnie
2024-05-16 22:56:50 +0000 UTC~1h47: nah that breakdown had some mistakes; the three people Madoka sent to collect Homura were Sayaka, Bebe and Madoka herself. Sayaka and Bebe are part of the Law of the Cycle, kinda like Angels - it seems that anyone who gets collected by Madoka in the new universe gets some sort of afterlife with her, as we see with Sayaka and Bebe. Mami and Kyouko are their normal, alive selves.
MrGaldor123
2024-05-16 22:56:09 +0000 UTCTold you it was a lot to take in! Loved you being confused in the beginning. Don't worry we all was just as confused when we saw it. Fun fact the tickets for the movie (in theaters) had a picture of Mami on it and when the person ripped it at the booth it ripped her head off. Sayaka and bebe was there to give Madoka her memories/power back. Otherwise kyubey would have saw her power and took advantage of it. But yea this is a movie where you got to think really hard about it after and maybe watch it multiple times... But god damnit i always cry in this movie. Oh to have a fun watch here is the meguca video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrgxHDoe8gA&ab_channel=ExiststoKeepMedukaVideoonYoutube Modaka Magica english dub bloopers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GHsnrHNRRU&ab_channel=ChalknBrimstone
TheMightyAnt
2024-05-16 22:40:03 +0000 UTC1:04:35 The MEGA irony of you saying this, when the Witch who killed Mami was on screen 20 seconds ago. I just knew you weren't recognizing it. Lolz
Harley Burnie
2024-05-16 22:13:39 +0000 UTCSo regarding Homura's ability to pull down Madoka, it probably has to do with outburst of emotion from remembering her despair, desire, and most importantly, love, for Madoka across all the different timelines after she fully regains her memory from the Fake Mitakihara City. The phase change between emotion is an incredible source of energy, after all. If you remember what Kyubey says during its dialogue with Homura, a phenomenon that can be observed can be interfered with. When Madoka personally came to fetch Homura, she rendered herself observable and thus interferable by the latter.
Buttered Custard
2024-05-16 21:50:08 +0000 UTC27:00 I did try to warn you one YouTube, do NOT try to understand the first half of Rebellion. Lolz
Harley Burnie
2024-05-16 21:38:17 +0000 UTCI seem to recall the end of the Mayan calendar being a May 12th or so. The December one was a Xtian cult's "End of the World" sorta party.
Harley Burnie
2024-05-16 21:34:32 +0000 UTCFinally joined up to the Patreon, just to hear thus insane soundtrack. Thank you for having a support tier that my broke ass can handle right now! Been loving the YouTube content for a little while now. Love the channel. About spoiler in the comments, I was worried, too, but nah, everyone was super respectful and appropriate. There was just good detail explanations and hype. Makes me so proud.
Harley Burnie
2024-05-16 21:16:39 +0000 UTCso about the timeline. Madoka's wish included "all universes" so that meant she crosses all the timelines and basically made them into one timeline (this one).
TheMightyAnt
2024-05-16 20:11:45 +0000 UTC
