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Dark Angel (1990)

The boyz discuss Dark Angel.

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The term I’ve seen used for that thing Gambit wears on his head is a “head sock”, which feels appropriately stupid.

another morgan

It's a Hooj Choon

Chabnormal

When Bill puts the costume in the cabinet (not a safe), he takes out a briefcase and puts it on top of the cabinet and slides the door shut but leaves the briefcase on top with the keys still hanging from the lock and we don’t see him lock it back up. I figured that Alice sees the briefcase and when she is putting it back in the cabinet she finds the costume bag and takes out the mask to ask Bill about it later.

Clifford

Listened to this ep multiple times. So funny

HONDØZER69

Gotcha, I called it out because her having absolutely no reason to leave, the mask out was presented as a crucial piece of evidence to support your hypothesis. It would definitely have affected the way I viewed that part of the movie as well. That’s why I said to rewatch.

Ryan Stanger

No Stanger you're right I flipped those scenes in my head, he confesses right after. In my interpretation she's never seen the mask at all and has no idea what he's been doing, and that the mask was planted by the party people as a warning. My rewatch didn't really change my thinking even with the confession coming after. But hey it's Kubrick obviously he wants people having these kinds of conversations since he's not definitive on much. Next time I'll try to be clear and accurate. No promises about posting in the right movie though.

Rhinn

My response to your initial post was regarding this statement you made “ Kidman wouldn't leave it there because she already knows about what happened that night since Cruise told her” It seemed to me like you were saying, he confessed to her at some point before he found the mask on his pillow. And then confesses again after he finds it? This was my critique - and maybe I’m not understanding you correctly. Is your rationale for her not leaving the mask on the pillow that Dr. Bill had already told her what happened and that conversation was not shown? I feel like it’s pretty clear that he broke down after he saw the mask on the pillow and said “I’ll tell you everything” and proceeds to confess his exploits. But maybe I’m wrong.

Ryan Stanger

Admittedly I was wrong about that order, but on the rewatch it changed very little for me. Love the podcast keep up the good work

Rhinn

Hey, I appreciate you engaging with the content of my post as opposed to just dismissing it outright. It's way more fun that way. I see no issues with the cult accessing his house. He's being tailed for most of the movie and they're supposed to be the Illuminati so obviously they would have someone sneaky enough to be able to do break into a Manhattan apartment. I mean they know everything about him in less than 24 hours . They could just wait for Alice to go to sleep. Not difficult for the most powerful group of people in the world I'm sure. Maybe they drugged her. I'll say a cup of coffee is a lot different than the supposed smoking gun of infidelity the mask would represent in your scenario.. We don't know. What we do know is that the doctor placed the mask in his locked safe. Presumably to hide it from Alice. If she had access to the safe why would he ever put it there, and we never see her using it. It's not impossible at all for the Illuminati to have the codes to factory reset a safe like that, or a safe cracker. And to me, a climax where he comes home and sees the warning from the Illuminati that causes him to go through a psychological collapse when he realizes that his failed attempt at infidelity has endangered, his wife, his child, and the entirety of his existence, forcing him to confess to the only person he possibly can, his wife, who he has now endangered by his actions is much more interesting than I became a sobbing mess in front of my wife because I *failed* to cheat on her.

Rhinn

It seems important that the women could be his wife with a mask on and that she recounts exactly the experience if she were. She also seems like the far more competent spouse, bored and manipulating him (again if this is his imagination it still works- it’s a literal psychological movie, the text is explicitly Freudian ) complete control of himIt also requires her to jump from mask + tux to sex party. A jump we make because we’ve seen Eyes Wide Shut. I don’t experience 99% of the internet yall describe. JIC we never meet again, you made me love movies again and my wife bullies me every time I get shit on for pretending like I know chemistry

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lol just realized this is social media. Please excuse my confusion

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If we only wanted ditto head fans, I could delete all this. I just want more people to watch the movies for themselves and to avoid YouTube videos made by anonymous people spouting increasingly outlandish claims to make themselves stand out. It's an offshoot of a larger problem where the internet has become an incentivized disinformation machine. To me, these theories are no different than saying Cobra Commander was at the sex party. Theres no proof he isn’t?!

Gabrus, Rodgers, and Stanger

:/ do yall really want ditto head fans? Everyone is so irony poisoned and desperate for sincerity but we can only assume the worst Nah, it’s not clear if she is part of the cult or was brought/invited by the Hungarian- somehow knows what’s up. It’s not clear if this even matters, bc it’s his nightmare. The biggest mystery is that if she really is a demure housewife who lit an aggressive strain, a lot of what she does has to be a great coincidence. It’s important that we wonder if any of these women is his wife and that it could be his Madonna is a whore The clue to this is when Nick plays a few stray notes of like a virgin. It’s because Madonna is there

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I pour myself a cup of coffee and put it down on my desk. I don’t need to look at it and react to it to know it’s there. So for your interpretation to work the sex party organizers quietly break in. They'd actually need to break in twice. The first time would be earlier in the day to steal the mask from Dr. Bill's hiding spot. They sneak back out. Later, Alice calls Bill to see how much longer he'll be, she stays up watching TV alone. Your theory is that the sex partiers break in again. Maybe they drug Alice, or they're so quiet they don't wake her up. They place the mask on the pillow she's spooning. Bill sees the mask, is so freaked out that, as you said, "they can reach out to him at any time" that he confesses to his wife - who, in your theory, would be clueless as to why he's having this breakdown. So according to your interpretation, the climax to this entire film about marriage, trust, monogamy, and sex- is just a guy being afraid about an undefined group of rich sex fiends coming after him. This movie has ambiguity that increases the enjoyment of watching it. I don't think your theory is part of that. But I hope you find the pizza parlor draining kid's blood.

Gabrus, Rodgers, and Stanger

Oh it's far from definitive that she left the mask there. She doesn't look at it or react to it at all. Very much open to interpretation.

Rhinn

Unfortunately this is not legitimate or interesting. Not even posted under the right movie.

Gabrus, Rodgers, and Stanger

Hell yeah

Will See

It was really Waluigi

Chabnormal

Or there are legitimate, interesting disagreements in interpretation of art and this is an intentionally ambiguous movie? It’s also an upsetting movie. There’s humor but it is intentionally a psychoanalytic nightmare. Whatever else is said, that’s what this movie is

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You might want to do a rewatch

Ryan Stanger

Kidman's character has nothing to do with the mask on the pillow at the end of the movie. It's left there by the cult as a reminder to Cruise that they can reach out to him any time they want and that his life is now a prison. Kidman wouldn't leave it there because she already knows about what happened that night since Cruise told her.

Rhinn

Then I say good day and tip my cap

DebrafromHR

Sincere :)

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I dunno if you making fun of me or not but I'm leaning towards the former🤨

DebrafromHR

A perfect action boyz listener comment

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Thighs popping fringe, I’m topping like a Surrey Catch me walking keys, I’ll cook you like Curry Murray’s I’m big Bill, bitch your Brian Doyle Cutting so much boy, schlomo thinks that I’m a mohel

away

Dolph runs weird

Mike

the wood chips explains a lot

The Duke of Eggslap

Hey! So I actually have a direct line to Craig Baxley and will ask him about the Casino movie but as a head's up, he is an older gentleman and his memory isn't as sharp as it once was. He wrote an autobiography back in 2020 called Driven for all interested!

Ken Hanley

same

bloodflart

When the heroin (boy) talk was happening, and John arrived at "the mohel cuts the boy," it triggered the memory that the more fun, classic heroin slang, "smack," supposedly comes from the yiddish "schmeck." Schmeck means like a little taste or sniff of something, as in "give me a schmeck of that boy." For the record, when I was into that stuff, in NYC in the late 90s, it was simply called dope, or D for short. Nothing fun like horse, smack, China white or boy. The only colorful part was the different branding stamps for the various suppliers... Blackstar and Kiss of Mint are the two I can remember off the dome.

Shart Carbuncle

I did that same pointless Wonderbread tour in elementary school, and as another ex-Sacramentan, am wondering if I was at the same one Stanger was at.

Scott Blacula

I think Rodgers is mixing up Trancers and Nemesis. Nemesis is surprisingly good! Also Trancers is a Christmas movie. Cheers!

Jordan Cook

Since my childhood I remember the title of this movie being "I come in peace" I watch this on local TV wpix 11 I believe during the October month. Have you done deadliest friend, for horrorboyz cause that movie and the one about the witch that kisses folks and steal there youths. Are movies that are strangely burned into my brain

DebrafromHR

I remember been impressed with a dissolving shot from the bad alien harvesting pheromones to coffee been brewed in a lab. It was proof that this movie was better made then it really needed to be. Old school pre-digital b-movies had a level of technical craft that is sorely missed today. Also Craig R. Baxley is the man. Dark Angel/Action Jackson/ Stone Cold is a hell of an action movie run. In a better world, he would have had as much success as Chad Stahelski enjoys today. But he was awesome nonetheless. Anyway Happy Christmas to all the Boyz and Janitors.

Wesley Dolan

Please do Black Moon Rising

JoBrock Brobama

Same. I got a CD the next week and tried to kill my entire family.

Brash Tracks

Dolph movies are such fertile ground for comedy.

Scott Tammel

His reply "I was Oscar worthy"

Theo the Jabroni

Unbelievable ep and Jay Bilas replied to my tweet about it.

Theo the Jabroni

The "Jack & Diane" bit got me good

Lando Mo

Wow I had no idea this was the same movie as I Come In Peace. Mind blown there. My dad and I rented this and watched it one evening. It was 91 I think. I remember us laughing our asses off at it

Max Hardenbrook

If any of us ever does something badass please make sure your manifesto mentions Ben by name. *jk

grant brown

I nominate this one for the free feed

Jason E Becker

I was 15 in 1990 and I specifically remember seeing a preview for this in the theater where it was called “I Come in Peace.” Had no idea this was the same movie.

Nathan Rodriguez

Everybody ticklin’ the clit’ris on Krypt’n this Christmas?

Madeyouread

Congrats to Ben on making the top episodes of Comedy Bang Bang this year. It was cool to hear a bit of the backstory on the Night Wolf character. If anyone wants to hear it’s the first clip on today’s episode.

Conor Hunter

Merry Christmas Action Boyz 💪🏽

Keith Jarrett

Dark Angel: If you want a low-melanin Lethal Weapon paired with a Beverly Hills Cop, crossed with Terminator, run through a Highlander filter, with a final showdown using the setting of Robocop, the strategy of Predator, and the end of Commando then Xeroxed 50 times over, then this movie is for you! (I loved it)

eponymouse_ponymouse

Matthias made a strong character choice that Bad Alien would make the exact same face every time he was retracting his heroin (boy) injector. Kind of an excited grimace. And if Jay Bilas was on Inside the NBA instead of ESPN this movie would be far more known. They'd be playing his clips all the time.

Mitch Kapa

Abraxas, Guardian of the Universe is one of the worst movies I’ve ever watched. Not even entertaining bad. Super boring and Ventura has zero charisma.

Cole Trickle

Only Uncle Douvee from Hard Target

Cole Trickle

I was Jack Cain Off

TheDemonKane

I Come in Peace Actionboyz!

John McClane

Now I have my health insurance

Hammerthrust Von Sexron

🎄🥂🎄Thanks for all you do Action Boyz, truly. Your kind hearts shine through even your most depraved tales of incontinence.

SJ Masterton

I remember as a kid having a hard time finding that movie Nemesis at my local Blockbuster. My dad was finally able to score a copy. I watched it and never felt so bored with my life.

Daniel_

I watched Nemesis for the first time this year and thought it was kind of awesome. It's partially a knock-off Terminator starring a knock-off JCVD. Also, the cyborg cop named Jared is a woman.

Jared Niles

Shadow Wolves comes out on Wednesdays anyway so probably the 25th. Not like it’s live or anything

PatrickKilbrogan

Everybody has their movies for the Boyz to cover. But wooden acting, lower budget, explosions, heavy reliance on T&A- The Hidden has to be the most ABZ movies they haven't covered yet.

Stewart Wattson

Thanks for the heads up, love all those guys.

ZBuckWhizzle

Tyson was interviewed by Andre Ward when asked about the Hasbulla incident https://youtube.com/shorts/s3IZGM0vnEs?si=cyI6B2VE2fgSuQyv

RutgerHauerPowerHour

Having never seen or heard of it, one of the greatest films I’ve ever seen. Thank goodness for the Action Boyz

Horace Jallowman

I've lived in Florida my whole life. My parents have several Cajun friends. Channing's accent wasn't bad. To whom is he being compared that would cause you to conclude his accent is bad?

Chabnormal

*Forgot to actually say that Fake-Out has a car chase thru a casino

Rich Zerbian

Y’all mentioned a car chase thru a casino and it reminded me that there’s a movie from 1982 called Fake-Out by the director Matt Cimber (he’s the guy that Marc Maron’s character on Glow was based on and he’s got pretty wild filmography/biography). Didn’t see Baxley in the credits though so no leads on that but Fake-Out might be a fun one for the show.

Rich Zerbian

Gambit's entire bit in the movie is that you can't understand him! The action was cool

bloodflart

1990, shit. Someone should have told these aliens about Ecstasy

Chabnormal

Jack Caine shoulda been Jack King. Plus his girlfriend could become Diane Caine. A dyslexic person's nightmare

Chabnormal

Is that on the free feed yet?

bloodflart

Good intro... as usual I was LMAO

Chabnormal

That movie rules I just watched it recently, surprised it wasn't because it was an abz episode

bloodflart

I was excited to hear them mention The Hidden. Not surprised Stranger and Gabrus hadn't heard of it or it would've come up sooner

Stewart Wattson

Nemesis (1992) is a fun movie. Sven is in it for like 2 minutes. But it made Olivier Gruner a c-list action star. Directed be the infamous Albert Pyun. Cyborg. Sword & The Sorcerer. Dollman. And of course, what is about to become Gabrus two favourite movies. Nemesis 2 & 3. Featuring bodybuilder Sue Price. And yes, she's hot.. (Tubi)

The Buffmaster

Finally, the Dream On episode.

FiddlersGreenDay

Lennon's "beautiful boy" makes more sense now

Gilligan(The marooned Ranchero)

paul rust just did a commentary for EWS on gourley and rust so i'm prob gonna listen to that while re-watching, and then listen to shadow wolves. life is good!

David McElroy

Swifty Lazar mention on WTF today. I got excited because I know Stanger listens.

Cody

This made me hate-pity Brian Benben. Guy must have lived 24/7 with Ben Stiller's footsteps gaining on him.

eponymouse_ponymouse

I didn’t watch this one when I was young and it was a fun watch but I’m surprised this was the most requested for a long time.

Oldmancoyoteface

Think they'll release the eyes wide shut ep early? Or is it more on brand to drop a Christmas themed ep on the 26th just because it's Thursday.

ZBuckWhizzle

Looney Tunes meets Cruising 2 is the kind of wholesome holiday content a lonely janitor craves in these trying times.

Dark Angel Of The Year

That cold open was so ridiculously funny, makes me want an Acton Boyz improv pod spinoff

Brix

Season 4

Former Janitor

Marc Singer!

Former Janitor

Turned off the podcast to watch all the Hotel guest star supercuts 🙏

Former Janitor


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