š”š¤ LETāS ARGUE! š¤š” (August 2025 Thread)
Added 2025-08-10 20:47:03 +0000 UTCThank you so much for supporting us this month! Now's that magical time when you hit us with your HOT TAKES, UNPOPULAR OPINIONS, and TOUGH QUESTIONS; drop em down in the comments WHENEVER YOU WANT and we'll look through them all in a couple of weeks. LET'S GO!
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Smash is one of THE greatest punk albums ever released. Every track is at least good, and there are a lot of album tracks like Genocide, Nitro and Something to Believe In that are just as good as the iconic singles. Sure, Offspring eventually turned into a parody of themselves, but so did Johnny Rotten and people still celebrate the Sex Pistolsā overrated debut.
Machine Gun Philly
2025-08-23 13:48:27 +0000 UTCProof?
holybuble
2025-08-21 05:05:52 +0000 UTCIs Model/Actriz too gay for alternative heads?
holybuble
2025-08-21 05:05:17 +0000 UTCSleepy Brown doesnāt get enough credit when talking OutKast success
Drake Parker
2025-08-20 20:17:52 +0000 UTCClipse and The Knife have more in common than people would like to think Both are sibling music duos Both have peak albums from 2006 Both of their best albums are arguably the most recent ones Both have solo projects that are inconsistent but have very high peaks Both are highly respected in their respective genres Both are a little underrated for younger music listeners Both involve being on drugs to fully appreciate
Kyle Cahill
2025-08-20 17:16:54 +0000 UTCLet My Children Hear Music > Mingus Ah Um despite the contextual importance it has for post bop etc. also gonna need a Mingus classic review from you even if it only gets 1k views. Much love.
Myles
2025-08-20 10:01:58 +0000 UTCWhy did I have to get into Godspeed you black emperor the same week they took all their music off streaming š¢
Ivan cesareo
2025-08-20 09:07:52 +0000 UTCIām open to replies and further discussion on this topic and would also invite those who disagree into this conversation Iām just curious as to what yāall think about this
Zachary Girard
2025-08-19 19:33:02 +0000 UTCWhile I am appreciative of the efforts of GY!BE, Xiu Xiu, Deerhoof, King Gizzard, etc. to boycott Spotify by removing their music from the platform, Iām not convinced this approach will be effective enough to incite any meaningful change on the platform or any other major streaming service for that matter The perceived issue at play here is what I think is a constant for many current-day resistance efforts, which is an overall lack of organized resistance Social media polarization over the past decade has discouraged much meaningful discussion and opportunities for consensus and collectivization regarding certain social ills In the case of streaming services, this could mean (e.g.) there not being enough artists on Spotify who will bother understanding the urgency of addressing the platformās misconduct regarding its royalties (and the lack thereof), or the millions Daniel Ek is pouring into the military industrial complex at the expense of artistsā dividends This could then mean there not being a great enough number of artists leaving the platform to make Spotify any less profitable and any more willing to give artists their fair share I feel like all this could then result in the homogenization of the music streaming market; that is, following the assumption that the biggest and/or the most socially unengaged artists will remain on the platform while everyone else disembarks And yeah, buying directly from artists indeed is great for them, but thereās a reason why Napster came to be what it was for its time Iām not convinced your average music listener, whatever they might be into, will be the most wiling to buy physical copies of every record they wish to consume Itās unfortunately too expensive and might bring people to get back to bootlegging their favourite records again, which we all know isnāt the most favourable outcome for artists who are already not being adequately compensated for their work
Zachary Girard
2025-08-19 18:05:32 +0000 UTCAlso to add insult to injury method man and red man have better chemistry than ghostface and raekwon.
Tom Waterson
2025-08-17 13:13:29 +0000 UTCThe best album to come out of a wu tang member after 36 chambers is Method man and red manās Blackout. I prefer the catchy production and hooks to a lot of songs off supreme clientele or Cuban links. Not to mention a lot of funny moments and amazing one linerās that are ingrained in my brain now. This album got left out of the convo.
Tom Waterson
2025-08-17 13:12:02 +0000 UTCAlso tbh itās unhyped I need to see my investments in shrimp tech enterprises go up
The Peopleās Republic Of Post Punk
2025-08-16 16:34:38 +0000 UTCBrown Sugar really couldāve been one of the Stonesā best songs if it werenāt for the lyricsš«©
patrick
2025-08-16 13:50:06 +0000 UTCThere should be a grammy for best music video. Especially considering there's one for packaging. It's such a dying art form that it would be nice if it was acknowledged in some way, even though I know it probably wouldn't have changed much.
Filip KaÅŗmierczak
2025-08-16 05:40:51 +0000 UTCStan twitter or just stans of a specific artist in general are the worst types of people when it comes to music discourse. Rather than merely uplifting their fave, they nearly always have the incessant need to bring another artist down whilst doing so. Itās become so annoying and I believe some of them truly think that the concept of appreciating more than one artist is absurd.
max
2025-08-15 04:07:45 +0000 UTCHoly shit
Tuck
2025-08-13 20:35:25 +0000 UTCThe discourse around āitās not that deepā when consuming or reviewing music has gotten to the point of being obnoxious and gatekeeping, whether itās aimed at Taylor Swift fans who buy 20 vinyl to make a fake clock or Tyler, The Creator chastising fans on twitter for analyzing DTTG. I think most artists want their fans to take their music seriously and engage with it on personal level, yet if you try to do this with ābasicā music youāre reaching too far. But if youāre critical of music that doesnāt have deeper meanings then youāre pretentious? Itās the opinions that arenāt that deep, not the music.
Josh Brown
2025-08-13 16:44:30 +0000 UTCTame Impala ISN'T actually just one guy
Trevor Young
2025-08-13 16:32:37 +0000 UTCIām also just curious to see if the two albums you ranked above it have also grown (Forever Story and De Todas) on you or cave world just grew on you so much that it surpassed them
The Peopleās Republic Of Post Punk
2025-08-13 15:36:42 +0000 UTCSuicide boys new album āThy Kingdom Comeā, is there best album yet to date. Both Scrim and Rubyās performances lyrically and production wise are getting better and better with each release. The newest one shows Scrim expanding on their typical production with inclusions of diverse and creative beats and flows. The lyrics in typical suicideboys fashion talk about suicide, drug abuse, etc⦠but expands on how both of them are reflecting and feeling being a couple years into sobriety and how even with or without the drugs there is still struggle and pain. With lines on the outro song āMonochromaticā, āIām outta hope, Just another oddly trope, Iām familiar with slipping in that downward slope, Untied the rope, I stopped snorting all that dopeā
Alec
2025-08-13 13:31:18 +0000 UTCExpensive goal
The Peopleās Republic Of Post Punk
2025-08-13 03:23:24 +0000 UTCIn an age where social media has made interactions and discourse more accessible, music discourse has become its most toxic and annoying because of it
Ian Kim
2025-08-13 01:06:03 +0000 UTCMachine Gun Philly
2025-08-13 00:14:51 +0000 UTCFeel free to not read my post in the video for timeās sake. I tried condensing it as much as I can without the point being lost or altered in any way. To preface, my age, region of the U.S. that I live in, and my direct environment may have led me to this false narrative I perceive to be true, but even if so, Iād still like to be filled in on why my perception is wrong. As someone who has only very recently listened to them for the first time and is learning about them, is there a reason (or number of reasons) why ICP has almost fallen in the cracks of time, and are sort of a ābygoneā musical act? By this I mean, it seems like finding online musical discussions (hip-hop or otherwise), that bring them up in terms of their historical musical contributions/significance is scarce, and I donāt know anybody in real life that listens to them (especially my age of 24), let alone even know who they were/are. Is the lack of representation in 2025, purely due to the culture of the group that surrounds the music itself, or is it other factors that Iām not aware of that have led to this phenomenon? I wouldnāt believe it has to do with content matter, cause plenty of raunchy hip-hop exists (shining example from around the same time as ICP: Eminem) and that hasnāt stopped people from continuing to listen to them. I also wouldnāt believe it would have to do the generation gap. Iām 24. Plenty of younger people listen to old 90s and 2000s music (specifically hip-hop in this case; again, Eminem as a shining example for this point as well), but not one that I know personally listens to ICP and may not even know who or what ICP is. Iād appreciate your insight and thank you for the content
Josh Miles
2025-08-12 05:48:37 +0000 UTCAmen. So mid.
Monkeydudem
2025-08-11 22:07:50 +0000 UTCIn Rainbows is a better album than Ok Computer. Fitter Happier in the age of AI voice over short form content is unbearable. Skippiest skip that has ever skipped.
Monkeydudem
2025-08-11 22:07:19 +0000 UTCRedux review of Cave world is needed. You have mentioned at least three times this year of the regretted score. Also the fact that it only ranked three on your year end list but it seems to have grown and stuck a lot more than any album for you that came out that year
The Peopleās Republic Of Post Punk
2025-08-11 07:00:48 +0000 UTCMs.Lauryn Hill is a Top 5 Artist of all Time
Leo
2025-08-11 06:57:03 +0000 UTCTURNSTILEāS āNEVER ENOUGHā is a lot better than āGLOW ONā. Glow on is a good album but never enough feels a lot more focused and has better/more interestingly written songs. Glow on feels more like a collection of songs rather than an album.
Noah Garcia
2025-08-11 03:41:46 +0000 UTCAll Things Must Pass is not just on par with the best Beatles albums, itās my personal favorite Beatles or Beatles-adjacent project. While obviously not as experimental or groundbreaking as those prior records, itās just as if not more consistently great track to track and an extremely rewarding listening experience; George just shows complete songwriting mastery on this album. It also happens to be one of the greatest āfuck youās in Music history.
Zedron
2025-08-11 01:59:08 +0000 UTCRanking Zappa by his styles / eras: 1. Jazz Fusion Zappa 2. Prog Zappa 3. Psych Zappa 4. Classical Zappa 5. Doo-Wop Zappa 6. Comedy Zappa -300. The synth cheese that is "Jazz From Hell"
Herbieguy
2025-08-10 23:42:46 +0000 UTCAI is going to produce a psychic rejection of musical perfectionism on albums and singles. Those who are indie music aligned will become more inclined towards emotionally authentic but imperfect performances. The age of the Bedroom indie artist who doesn't do shows will be over. Guitar rock will make some sort of a comeback because synth heavy music might is easily co-opted by AI...but just as this return to 1980s era-styled post-hardcore revival occurs, an AI MAGA styled rapping chatbot will do a military coup against President Rock Johnson.
Leonard
2025-08-10 22:20:04 +0000 UTCpeople criticising albums like Stankonia (or even more recently GNX) for being "too commercial" or "for the normies" are the actual normies and they're just being filtered out cause how the hell do you listen to an album with Snappin & Trappin, Toilet Tisha, We Love Deez Hoes, etc. and come to that conclusion...? literally their wildest album lol
AllOverAgain
2025-08-10 21:54:29 +0000 UTCWill you do a Redux review of Cal's Mixtape since it does turn 10 years old this year? Pretty sure Cal been patiently waiting for his Redux review by now
Katzura_da
2025-08-10 21:24:12 +0000 UTCWhatās the interview your most proud of?
Skullring27
2025-08-10 21:06:52 +0000 UTCRare tough question here! I remember you mentioning that you weren't planning on listening to Vultures 2 when it came out, but it was on your worst albums list for last year. What made you listen? Was it a sense of curiosity or was it necessity?
Corey the music fan
2025-08-10 21:05:50 +0000 UTCFor as near-perfect as Let God Sort Em Out is musically, the album cover is sort of meh.
Tuck
2025-08-10 21:04:11 +0000 UTC"What a Wonderful World" has been used ironically for years, either by people doing a throaty Louis Armstrong impression or coupling it with footage of people acting savagely towards each other, but it's still a sublime, gorgeous song filled with genuine love and longing
bressig
2025-08-10 21:04:06 +0000 UTCJohn Lennon had never written a song better than here comes the sun. Maybe some as good as but not better
Htkkk
2025-08-10 21:01:29 +0000 UTCThe negative attitudes that used to be associated with preferring more older music than current releases is beginning to shrink. Itās not to say it will ever go away completely but youāre getting more music listeners that honestly could care less about how old a piece of music is as long as its quality for what itās aiming to be depending on the genre. Timeless music will be Timeless.
Zach Stolpa
2025-08-10 20:56:56 +0000 UTCBy The Way is the Chili Peppersā best album. Itās more consistent and better produced than Californication, less overlong than Stadium f***ing Arcadium, and better than anything theyāve made recently by a mile. It also DOESNāT have a 9 minute song about Antony Kiedisā semen so I think it should bump Blood Sex Sugar Magik too.
Machine Gun Philly
2025-08-10 20:56:21 +0000 UTCFans of live music should strive to see at least 10 shows a year (personally, this year I'm trying to break my record of 9 shows). If your music tastes are wide enough, you can overcome financial restrictions and settle for less expensive tickets to the artists you want to see, assuming some of those artists are not huge pop stars who are charging triple digits for the worst seats.
TheSupremeChozorizo
2025-08-10 20:54:32 +0000 UTCNineties indie pop was peak. Bands like The Magnetic Fields, Belle & Sebastian, Yo La Tengo, Jonathan Richman, Tiger Trap, The Softies, Saint Etienne, Teenage Fanclub, and Heavenly were putting out some of the best alternative music ever made in such a short span of time.
BlueZones
2025-08-10 20:47:44 +0000 UTC