😡😤 LET’S ARGUE! 😤😡 (May 2025 Thread)
Added 2025-05-12 21:37:41 +0000 UTCThank you so much for supporting us this month! Now's that magical time when you hit us with your HOT TAKES, UNPOPULAR OPINIONS, and TOUGH QUESTIONS; drop em down in the comments LICKETY SPLICKETY and we'll look through them all in a week or so. LET'S GO!
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Here's a big hot take for you: US veterans do not deserve special benefits that non-veterans do not get, be it a social status or more welfare benefits. US veterans have actively hurt this world by directly through being soldiers or indirectly through intelligence services, medical supplies for the military etc. and have have caused the suffering of majority of the world's population to benefit only a small percentage of the world, the US population and their bourgeois class. If, as a westerner, you claim to support the cause of the oppressed nations of the Third World, such as Palestine, Vietnam, Cuba etc., you should be denouncing veterans, not give them special benefits, not allow them create "veteran only" spaces, not make them a protected class etc. For most of us, US veterans are no different from an SS officer is to a Jew who lived through the Holocaust. You would rightfully denounce post-war Germany for incorporating former Nazis into high positions in the West German government. You should be doing the same thing to US veterans, or more accurately genocidal war criminals as well. Being a veteran should not be seen as a right, it should be seen as an abomination. This is why banning trans people from the military is good. We do not need more people killing innocent brown children. Being a trans veteran will not cause a decrease in transphobia, it will increase it in places where trans people are already the most oppressed in. By a person being a "proud trans veteran", people who are already the most down-trodden from the actions of the USA will be blaming trans people and discriminate against them in their own countries, causing Third World trans people to suffer both from poverty induced from the USA murdering their loved ones, destroying their homes etc. but also from transphobia by their own people. This is white trans people in the USA benefit from the oppression of the Third World, black and indigenous peoples in the USA, etc. Stop seeing defending the "rights" of trans veterans for being veterans, denounce them, shame them, make them pay for the crimes they committed to get massive benefits.
Elizabeth Susan Libra
2025-06-08 17:02:46 +0000 UTCThe current wave of drill music (more specifically UK drill) where rappers badly sings nostalgic hit songs over drill beats that lazily samples that same song—has become increasingly tedious and painfully cringe-worthy. An example is Central Cee’s "Let Go," where he goes so far as to make the lyrics even cornier than the original. I think drill music has a lot of potential to grow and diversify. It would be cool if someone could soothingly blend jazz instrumentation with the distinctive 808 patterns of a drill beat. That kind of fusion could push the genre in a fresh, innovative direction.
eattonkatsudaily
2025-05-30 00:01:56 +0000 UTCIs your old video outro music inspired by In Another Time by Sade?
Drake Parker
2025-05-28 15:05:51 +0000 UTCThe problem is most of the criticism in her direction isn’t direct criticism 🤷♂️
The High End Theory
2025-05-27 04:04:10 +0000 UTCThe Kinks from 1966-1970 had one of the greatest 5 year runs of all time
Wilson Dawson
2025-05-23 23:44:34 +0000 UTCRedman is one of the greatest of all time, on par with 2Pac and Biggie.
honcheung888
2025-05-23 16:04:24 +0000 UTCWould you say that if the Weirdness never been released The Stooges would have a flawless discog?
Caspa
2025-05-23 09:27:28 +0000 UTCThe “industry plant” allegations are stupid and tired, but can Doechii defenders stop pretending that she’s immune to criticism and can’t be called overrated?
Drake Parker
2025-05-22 14:32:14 +0000 UTCDamn shouldn’t be a 7, it should be a 6. Even though some tracks are decent like humble, dna, element and feel. The rest of the album is just some delusional message of how bad life can get from a very absurd point of view. The overall message of wickness or wickedness is kinda meh, and this album kinda fights back some of the ground that he won on his previous record tpab. Not to forget about that absurd message at the end of fear.
Pedro paramo
2025-05-21 12:35:17 +0000 UTCTom Waits’ classic songwriting formula where he’s just describing a grimy setting behind a janky instrumental can get really old really fast. The bastard just couldn’t seem to not put at least a few of those things on every damn album he’s released. After a while a lot of those kinda tracks just blend together and just feel like pointless filler on any project it’s on.
patrick
2025-05-20 02:47:58 +0000 UTCPlaying out of tune is underrated/overhated. A great deal of the best moments in recorded music history are played by out of tune amateurs. Raincoats, Ramones, Velvet Underground, Jimi Hendrix, legendary blues players, country folk and old time pickers, every live album that ever existed, and all of punk rock sound bad in a good way due to bad tuning, yet people go crazy when they hear it like musicians should "know better" or something. I say get over it; singing and playing off-key is where it's at. I've learned to love it from listening to the best.
Flange Guitar
2025-05-19 15:56:31 +0000 UTCThe recent drummer saga with The Who and Zak Starkey is proof that there are still some artists way up there in age who just can't accept that their time is up and should've stopped touring a while ago, ESPECIALLY as the announcement of who the replacement drummer is (Roger's solo drummer) puts fuel to the fire that Daltrey was having a senior moment. Only now do I find it very rare that artists can be in their 80s+, while still giving off a really good show. And sure, I understand that there are valid reasons why some people still choose to tour, such as not wanting to let down their crew, but it's still a very depressing sight to see, marked especially by the fact if you're considered a legend in the music sphere.
ToadMan101
2025-05-19 13:41:34 +0000 UTCfIREHOSE as a band is widely unappreciated and slagged for not being the Minutemen. You cannot beat that rhythm section, and edFROMOHIO 's boyish, poppy, strummy energy is a lot of fun even when singing watt's heavier stuff. Ragin Full On is a jazzy, arty, folky, proggy punky stomp-fest and the band deserves much more respect for being a great pop-punk band like fmr labelmates & pop punk kingpins, the Descendents. Their ability to write a simple catchy memorable tune with a couple of hooks and a goofy bridge is ahead of its time. Plus all of Watts's crazy SoCal slang showing up post-d.boon underscores how homemade it all was.
Flange Guitar
2025-05-19 02:44:19 +0000 UTCShout out Linnell
Tuck
2025-05-18 13:29:03 +0000 UTCA take Dave Grohl hates: Bleach is an OVERRATED record. Nevermind and In Utero are WAY better albums and honestly, there’s some filler and some rough edges. It’s very uneven. It’s really solid for a debut, but just like Amnesiac it gets called a classic because of WHO made it, not its quality.
Machine Gun Philly
2025-05-16 23:07:57 +0000 UTCCalling Radiohead virgin music feels wrong. Yes they’ve got plenty of terminally online music snobs who worship them but Radiohead is a bad poster boy for this label as they are easily one of the biggest and most popular bands of all time. No two Radiohead fans will be alike because of this and given how diverse their music is, they’re generally a band with something for everybody. You could apply this to any number of all-male artists or bands that make melancholy music, achieve mainstream success and have some kind of appeal to repugnant incels and it would all lead back to the same argument. A better poster boy would probably be a highly acclaimed male artist with no mainstream appeal whatsoever if we had to.
Nick
2025-05-16 18:47:14 +0000 UTCGibson needs some new faces. Geordie Greep is good for the SGs. Give him a signature model
Htkkk
2025-05-15 07:42:45 +0000 UTCblink 182's 2003 self titled album is a classic, not only by the band standards, but as a genuinely interesting album experience. It was and is, the only set of songs by the band that I still listen to.
Josué Garro
2025-05-15 06:25:56 +0000 UTCIf you could do a Death tier list, what would it look like? Here's mine: S tier: Human, Symbolic, TSOP A tier: Leprosy, Individual Thought Patterns B tier: Scream Bloody Gore, Spiritual Healing
Amertaun
2025-05-14 12:54:03 +0000 UTCDaddy Yankee is one of the most important pop artists of the last 20 years (I know he's reggaeton, but he's incredibly popular). Given the reggaeton wave that has taken over the world, he played a major role in popularizing the genre for U.S. audiences and abroad throughout the 1990s and 2000s. He deserves his flowers. Also Gasolina is still a banger.
Dear Mari
2025-05-14 02:31:55 +0000 UTCDJ Shadow is insanely underrated and doesn't get the credit that he deserves for influencing modern hip hop and rnb. The entire culture of the genre would look so insanely different without Endtroducing
anna!
2025-05-13 23:53:49 +0000 UTCTrue!!
Isabelle
2025-05-13 23:41:46 +0000 UTCTaylor Swift tours are actually influencing the younger generation of concert-goers in a good way. I just went to a They Might Be Giants show and there were a bunch of teens passing out free homemade bracelets and ribbons. We were trading and having a blast. I’m sure this was already a thing, but I know that Taylor’s tours have a lot to do with young kids bringing it back. It makes the experience even more communal and fun!
Tuck
2025-05-13 21:21:23 +0000 UTC2025 has no chance of topping 2024 in terms of new albums.
Piers Ward
2025-05-13 21:17:47 +0000 UTCLose My Cool by Kali Uchis is such an amazing song, that not only is an amazing call back to Andre 3000's song Take Off Your Cool but its one of the most thoughtful songs to hear about how people need to take off there fake persona when being with the person they care about the most. Sincerely is my favorite album from her and feels like a true sequel to Isolation and was able to continue where she left off on Orquideas
Katzura_da
2025-05-13 18:30:13 +0000 UTCI'm not upset with how little he releases but Sampha could be one of the GOATs if he was more active, same for Frank Ocean. I just wouldn't put them above a lot of others who have bigger discographies because the best artists of all time had longevity with multiple releases.
vvo
2025-05-13 15:27:05 +0000 UTCOasis is overrated
Arlo Bishop
2025-05-13 08:06:01 +0000 UTCKeyboards are cooler instruments than guitars. Better sounds, much more variety, and look at just a small handful of the amazing keyboardists we got through music history: Keith Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Donald Fagen, Richard Wright, Ray Manzerik, Stevie Wonder, John Linnell, Jerry Harrison, Billy Joel, Elton John, Ben Folds, Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea, George Duke, Bill Evans, Carole King, Christie McVie, NINA. SIMONE. Need I go on?
Herbieguy98
2025-05-13 02:33:25 +0000 UTCFriend I think this show is for HOT takes.
Herbieguy98
2025-05-13 02:32:31 +0000 UTCEarly Coldplay was better than early Radiohead
JubJub420
2025-05-13 02:06:15 +0000 UTCThe other four members of the Jackson 5 deserve way more credit for their contributions to pop and soul. Michael was obviously the star, but those other guys made the actual "music," if you catch my drift. They were the backbone to MJ's whole sound, and nobody ever talks about that (as far as I'm aware).
Trevor Young
2025-05-12 23:47:46 +0000 UTCA tasteful take: Listening to the most “extreme” music is a phase that most people grow out of after their 20’s. Don’t get me wrong - there is great music that HAPPENS to be boundary-pushing. There are exceptions. But listening to music for shock value loses its luster the older you become - and melody, lyricism and overall craft grow more appealing as your palette becomes more developed.
Machine Gun Philly
2025-05-12 22:43:00 +0000 UTCNot an opinion but pretty pls is there a Men I Trust album review coming?? both of them banged tf out on the NMF streams on multiple songs and you already got one out for Emma Goldman who only had one or two :(
sharkbait
2025-05-12 22:19:22 +0000 UTCBomb the Music industry is the best pop punk band of the 2000’s.
Skullring27
2025-05-12 22:07:53 +0000 UTCAnytime someone says "the success of bands like modern Bring Me the Horizon, Bad Omens, etc is a net positive for the metal scene by getting more people into metal" the only thing that actually happens in the real world is metalcore bands progressively diluting their sound because they want a piece of the mainstream pop-metal pie
bressig
2025-05-12 22:05:07 +0000 UTCLove and Rockets is the most underrated rock band of the 80s.
Dalton Krause
2025-05-12 21:47:58 +0000 UTCNot all Ye fans are inherently in support of his statements/ideas, I get that the online social media sphere makes it seem like that is the case, but there are still genuine fans of his music that aren’t twitter weirdos. I am not excusing any of their comments btw, I just hate getting grouped in with those freaks lol
Andrew Tweet
2025-05-12 21:46:27 +0000 UTCTo a greater degree than most artists-producers, Oneohtrix Point Never's production for other musicians consistently falls short of his potential demonstrated by his studio albums. With the exception of God Turn Me Into A Flower, his contributions to songs he's credited on is largely playing other peoples' melodies using his own equipment.
Justin
2025-05-12 21:45:56 +0000 UTCHyperpop is the Brostep of the 2020s. Both were exciting trends in underground experimental dance/pop music until they got out of hand, oversaturated, and are now viewed as cringe. Similarly to brostep, hyperpop has continued to have a pretty interesting underground scene and will make a comeback in the next 10 years like with brostep and the new Skrillex album.
Isabelle
2025-05-12 21:43:03 +0000 UTCLion king is not a top 5 Disney/pixar movie like some people think it is, overrated because of how much its high placement is due to its reception and being made at a time with just far less highly regarded animated films that would come out in the following years
Zach Stolpa
2025-05-12 21:41:26 +0000 UTCImagine dragons are the Nickleback of the 2010’s
Zach Stolpa
2025-05-12 21:39:08 +0000 UTC
