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😡😤 LET’S ARGUE! 😤😡 (OCTOBER 2024 Thread)

Thank you so much for supporting us this month! Now's that magical time when you hit us with your HOT TAKES, UNPOPULAR OPINIONS, and TOUGH QUESTIONS; drop em down in the comments and we'll look through them all in a couple of weeks. Let's go!

In case you missed last month's episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/lets-argue-song-113328590

Comments

Perfect Situation is the most overrated Weezer single, especially for a song that's supposed to be one of the "good ones" off Make Believe. It's just as soulless and generic as Beverly Hills, while not even being at the very least catchy, or even good in a live setting. The chorus is completely nothing. Make Believe has it's moments, but none of those moments are on Perfect Situation.

weggs

I remember you speaking on music that has no personality or identity would you say Billy Joel falls into that problem because going back into his catalog he did branch out into other genres but I feel he didn't really add anything to it in meaning stand out vocals ,interesting production ect

Caspa

i totally agree, there are many riffs that even border on prog metal too its quite an interesting nu metal album

vixen

Cowboy bebop is one of the greatest anime of all time, with the greatest soundtrack of all time.

Htkkk

Charli???

Chris Castillo

Mudvayne's album L.D. 50 REALLY deserves to be In the conversation of Nu Metal that still holds up today. I rarely see this band or album mentioned, despite them being this perfect blend between the elements that appeal to people about bands like Korn or Slipknot. Seemingly they've been largely forgotten, and I think that's really unfortunate. There's some fantastic music across their catalogue, but L.D. 50 specifically I believe deserves more recognition.

kkmadman

Why is it that Radiohead, being potentially the single most well-loved and celebrated bands in the music snob circle, doesn't get nearly as much traction for their non-studio album b-sides, off-hand singles and EPs? Everybody recognizes that the deep cuts on OK Computer and In Rainbows are incredible, but are we really just going to forget that songs like I Promise, The Amazing Sounds of Orgy, Harry Patch and MANY more even exist, let alone hold up on that same level? Seriously, how can a band be so overhyped and underrated at the same time?

Waffles!

Selling England by the Pound and most of Genesis' early work are the most important albums to come out of the 70s prog movement, and they are in a complete league of their own.

Mazfoya

oof

Waffles!

Danny L Harle is one of the most underrated producers working today. he was PC Music's secret weapon from the jump, he's Caroline Polachek's go-to producer, and he's just made incredible electronic pop music across a wide array of sub-genres with an amazing ear for melody and texture.

Daniel Segal

Recency bias is prevalent in all reviewing cites. Letterboxd, Rotten Tomatoes are good examples outside of the music realm. Happens all the time. In a year from now most of those ratings will stagnate, and distance will ultimately clear the air

Reid Sweatt

Black Midi isn’t really broken up, they’re just focusing on solo material. “Indefinite hiatus” is fairly unofficial in my eyes, and leaves the window open for future releases, just not likely in the foreseeable future.

Reid Sweatt

That happens to every album

Chris Castillo

UK hiphop is really hard to listen to because of those damn accents.

nico

Deftones has some bops but you're not wrong. Also was he always that horrible live?

nico

Shavooo 💞

nico

Would you rather have a Blood Incantation son or a Tomb Mold daughter?

Oscar Barroso

People need to learn about more bassists than just the same three guys. Every time there’s discourse over “who’s the best bassist of all time” it’s always just people saying Flea, Les Clayool, Geddy Lee etc. Like how is Joe Lally not a household name? Or Shavo? Ament? Commerford? I could go on. There are more than three good bassists in rock!

Machine Gun Philly

What, for you, is the weirdest or most annoying fandom and/or pattern of behavior on RYM? For me, it's a three-way battle between the weirdly feral Mach-Hommy, Billy Woods, and Black Mid (and now Geordie Greep) fans. EDIT: I love all three, but all their stuff shoots to the top of the ranking charts immediately upon release, and sometimes even before that and I don't get what it is about specifically these three that make people go wild like that.

Uncle Jam

would people still like Steely Dan if they were lo fi?

Alex Sim

Idk about this comment man, you can at least insult Rod Wave for being an abuser or a boring singer

Tuck

C,XOXO isn’t nearly as bad and unlistenable as people make it out to be. For whatever reason it’s just cool and trendy to make fun of Camilla Cabello for breathing. And it just so happens that when she puts out a mediocre-at-worst album that only slightly takes inspiration from one of the most on-fire acts this year, people completely over-exaggerate and pretend that she’s the worst thing to ever happen to music. Not even in the bottom 5 worst pop releases this year

Drake Parker

Rod Wave announcing that his album which released on October 11th (cuz we all know you're gonna record this Let's Argue after the 11th) being named Last Lap confuses me because I didn't even know he could run one lap.

Shαun

There is not an artist right now that is currently finding that balance between mainstream appeal and yet also pushing boundaries for what music can be. In past decades, there has always been an artist like this (Beatles in the 60s, Bowie in the 70s, Prince in the 80s, Kanye, Radiohead, etc.). It seems like this decade, artists are making music more for their own fan bases rather than finding that balance of breaking ground musically while still being mainstream and popular. It makes me wonder if or when we will get an artist again that is at the center of pushing music forward while also being very popular in the mainstream.

Hogan99

Ween is one of the 10 or 15 greatest American rock groups of all time. They’re the real spiritual successors to artists like Frank Zappa - quirky music with real heart, undeniable hooks, and GREAT vocals and instrumentation. They’re one of the greatest bands of all time.

Machine Gun Philly

Cheekface does it right, super cheap but quality merch because they are for the people!

Tuck

We will never have another Nirvana moment in popular music ever again.

Chandler Martin

Merch at shows needs to be cheaper. I realize it's the best stream of revenue for touring musicians, but 60 dollars for a shirt and 100 dollars for a poster is fuckin nuts. It really makes it hard to be a loyal fan when you feel like you're getting screwed over. There's got to be a better way for bands to make a profit without jacking up merch prices to astronomical levels.

Trevor Young

The new Geordie Greep is a 10

Waffles!

There are certain songs you can listen to in a car. Born to be Wild in the car goes hard but if I hear that shit on my 9-5 turn it off.

Benjamin Lisboa

Was there ever a “golden age” of music journalism? If so, when was it? 20th century Rollingstone? Early Pitchfork? Modern era?

Tuck

album of the year is superior to rate your music in every way. better community, less pretentious, more genuine discussion and less stupid arguments. also god, that rym ui is really ugly and in comparison way less compelling

sophie

Taylor Swift deserves no awards this year. She doesn't have an award winning album Worth nomination

Kai (From KaisTestKitchen)

There IS a critical threshold of emails you can send to Fantano to get him to check out your record - discuss

Luke De-Sciscio

Chino Moreno’s up-close moany voice has aged atrociously. The edgy-lustful vocal style reeks of the era it was born out of in worst way. Whenever I hear it, it just makes me think of angry mall goth kids putting matches out on their tongue in the skate park and I hate it. If you fuck with that vibe though, all power to ya ig.

patty

Lenny Kravitz’s lyrics are corny as fuck dog

Jake Bell

Stop putting physical exclusive tracks on streaming. They’re physical exclusive for a reason and I don’t wanna have to sit through 7-8 minutes of silence for a 1 minute section of a song that isn’t as good as the rest of the album. Keep it on wax or make it its own song if you’re gonna put it on streaming!!! FUCK!

Kyle Cahill

[Forgive the 'topical' take but it's been on my mind for a while] Chester was easily the best thing about Linkin Park and replacing him was an awful idea. Even if they didn't choose Emily, it would've been poorly received. I'm not saying they should NEVER EVER tour again; that'd be impossible to prevent and we have no way of knowing what Chester would've wanted. But there were better ways they could've gone about it. I feel like it would've been smarter to either continue with just Mike on vocals, or (if they absolutely HAD TO replace Chester), they should've done a New Order style band name change.

Herbieguy98

Did crunkcore failed due to the amount of hate it gotten from bands like Blood on the dance floor, Brokencyde, and 3OH3? Or did crunkcore fail due to a simple decline in popularity? or even both?

MaXXXimof _

A lot more UK artists are gonna become more prominent/popular in the US as in 2024 a lot more US artists have collabed with people from across the pond. Central Cee, Giggs, Dsavv from OFB and Nemzzz linking with 41 out of New York etc. That bridge just needs to be crossed a bit more both ways.

John Coffey

after I'm Not There put a surreal artistic spin on Bob Dylan's life and creative process using multiple actors, we don't need the straightforward biopic with Timothee Chalamet mumbling his way through a Dylan impression

bressig

indoor or outdoor concerts?

Alex Sim

I'll just copy paste mine from last month. "Yes' albums with the guitarist Trevor Rabin, from 1983's 90125 to 1994's Talk, deserve much more recognition as managing to perfect the prog sensibilities of Yes in a commercial context. And of course, 90125 and Talk also deserving recognition production wise with the former defining the sound of the '80s and the latter for being one of the first albums to be completely recorded to and edited on a computer. " A more elaborate response is on the previous thread.

Elizabeth Susan Libra

why didn’t you review fires in heaven from salem? i mean they put out an album every ten years and they had a huge influence on the unground culture, just listen to sematary!

key2thegat3

Salads don’t need dressing or balsamic vinegar, raw juicy crispy veggies are best enjoyed plain.

Zach S

Playboi carti voice aesthetic gotta be one of the worst new modern music trends

Zach S

We have entered a new golden age of pop and female artists are leading the charge.

TheSupremeChozorizo


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