😤 LET’S ARGUE! 😤 (December 2019 Thread)
Added 2019-12-05 01:47:14 +0000 UTCThank you all for another month of support! It's that time once again for you to hit us with your HOT TAKES, UNPOPULAR OPINIONS, and TOUGH QUESTIONS. We'll look through all your responses a week from today. Let's go!
In case you missed last month's episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/lets-argue-jesus-31599521
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Body Count is also another one
Arnarok
2019-12-16 03:06:49 +0000 UTCAlso, Iron Maiden, Angel Witch, Bad Company, Motörhead, etc.
Arnarok
2019-12-16 03:03:18 +0000 UTCuk election results were sad
Mateus Nóbrega
2019-12-15 00:45:31 +0000 UTCbossa nova is pretty cool
TOMCAT
2019-12-12 18:33:22 +0000 UTC808's and heartbreak is kanye's best album
morabic
2019-12-12 02:13:57 +0000 UTCThe most aesthetically pleasing element in rock music is the major key breakdown. As a result easycore is totally eargasmic to listen to.
Marshall Hanson
2019-12-11 19:37:22 +0000 UTCIt is a really great streak, but Miles Davis totally smashes him as far as a great album streak goes!
Jack Bayley
2019-12-11 06:11:30 +0000 UTCalso the 12 days of christmas is actually the worst xmas song
stoneinaidan
2019-12-11 03:53:00 +0000 UTCSANTA BABY and I SAW MOMMY KISSING SANTA are companion pieces that elevate each other lol
stoneinaidan
2019-12-11 03:48:32 +0000 UTCAn artists death should not influence any critique of their art
Ronjackson
2019-12-10 21:43:32 +0000 UTCa list no one is talking about: what are some of the best tv performances of the decade? my mind goes to kendrick's 2016 grammy's performance as a frontrunner
Aidan
2019-12-10 17:35:01 +0000 UTCDrake is a good rapper
Nathaniel Zaccagnini
2019-12-10 08:20:35 +0000 UTCLinkin Park has never been good. They have one DECENT album in Meteora, and the rest range from a dumpster fire to mediocre. Hybrid Theory only has like three good tracks. Linkin Park, even at their best, made pretty uninteresting nu metal and rap rock that most of the time just followed the same basic formula that gets tired after like four tracks. Here and there they'd throw a curve ball and actually make something refreshing (e.g. Break the Habit), but those spare tracks don't make up for the countless watered down metal and rap songs they flood their albums with. Never got the hype.
Jake LaMotta
2019-12-10 03:50:21 +0000 UTCDiamond Dogs is an awkward mess of pretty solid tracks thrown together for purely commercial reasons. It's the most critical fatal flaw of an album I've always wanted to love but can't. It might have been one of the coolest 70s concept albums if the "Hunger City" thing had continued all the way through (and then make the "1984" stuff a cool EP)
NevadaNate
2019-12-10 00:25:14 +0000 UTCBlack Sabbath did it
NevadaNate
2019-12-10 00:20:15 +0000 UTCThe Dark Side of the Moon may not be Pink Floyd’s best album (arguably), but it’s still one of their best and easily belongs in their S tier. People who hate on it unnecessarily are just mindless melon disciples who take everything you say as gospel.
tryhard
2019-12-09 23:28:05 +0000 UTCThe B-Side is the greatest 20 minutes in the history of music
Aiden Ferry
2019-12-09 08:16:19 +0000 UTCI think this is agreeable to most
Aiden Ferry
2019-12-09 08:15:36 +0000 UTCWhat is your opinion on the band Sublime? I haven’t heard you talk about their music, and IMO they are a top 5 band of the 1990’s for their clever songwriting and well-executed blend of musical cultures. RIP Bradley Nowell.
Aiden Ferry
2019-12-09 08:13:34 +0000 UTCBlue Monday is the most "ahead of the curve" song of all time.
Kevin Frey
2019-12-09 00:08:10 +0000 UTCWhite people regularly use their love for boom bap/90s hip hop as an excuse for racism
Semo Adms
2019-12-08 23:04:55 +0000 UTCPitchfork consistently did The Mars Volta dirty in its reviews, and it's one of the main reasons why I don't consider them to be a credible music review site, aside from it being another mouthpiece of the +$13B Conde Nast (and an irrelevant one at that)
exo
2019-12-08 20:51:22 +0000 UTCThe whole "Anthony killed _________ with his bad review" is extremely tasteless, unfunny, and just universally awful and people should feel bad for making them so soon after an artist's death.
Adam Washington
2019-12-08 19:17:04 +0000 UTCeveryone should give dave matthews band a second chance
pretzels
2019-12-08 04:07:40 +0000 UTCFuck ugly god and the grinch are the greatest diss tracks of all time
Devin
2019-12-07 23:41:13 +0000 UTCalbums can make or break an artist for example if chance didnt drop the big day he would easily be top 10
YRCChris
2019-12-07 23:21:46 +0000 UTCThe debut hobo johnson album deserves a critical reevaluation. I get that it flawed and has some elements that turn people off, but to have it on sites like RYM sitting toe to toe in score with albums like Reckless, Supermarket and Speeding Bullet 2 Heaven does not give nearly enough credit to how unique and memorable his fusion of genres is
Austin Gaines
2019-12-07 19:39:12 +0000 UTCMore a general question: do you consider getting song of the year from you (like This Is America) as impressive as getting a 9? An 8? How do you rate individual greatness vs a cohesive good album
Richard Horan
2019-12-07 09:41:31 +0000 UTCThe fact that In The Aeroplane Over The Sea hasn't been mentioned on either "Most Overrated Albums" videos is a testament to the fact that most of the hype that album gets is well-deserved. Either that or that album's nay-sayers arent as vocal as its celebraters
Cameron Ford
2019-12-07 07:53:21 +0000 UTCJohn Frusciantes solo career is better than his time with the red hot chili peppers. Especially the album Niandre Lades and usually just a T Shirt being a lofi classic IMO or course!
Jack Bayley
2019-12-06 23:18:22 +0000 UTCYou have ruined wearing yellow flannels -especially at a concert. This is nothing personal or an attack but just something I wanted to point out. I went to go see Daughters last night and the amount of people wearing yellow flannels and shouting your name was absurd.
Andrew Shaktah
2019-12-06 18:46:37 +0000 UTCLaura Jane Grace/Against Me! are one of the biggest influences on Punk music today and it has shown on most Punk records released in the past 5 years.
Jace Pons
2019-12-06 17:59:10 +0000 UTCThere's also Run the Jewels on Run the Jewels by Run the Jewels
ActionV
2019-12-06 17:34:43 +0000 UTCis low roar the only band who's done a self-titled song on a self-titled album? "Low Roar" Low Roar Low Roar
haughty garbage
2019-12-06 16:46:43 +0000 UTCDeath Stranding is the best Low Roar album
ActionV
2019-12-06 16:08:52 +0000 UTCThough Question: What makes makes an album or a particular peice of music "pertensious"? Can albums be too pertensious?
Mitchell Blodgett
2019-12-06 15:56:40 +0000 UTCAbbey road is inconsistent and not as much of a high note as people say it is. The opener come together is empty and hallow with nonsense lyrics that feel like they come from John Lennon’s lack of care more so than a want for creative wackiness that is showcased in I am the walrus. Songs like octopus’s garden or maxwells silver hammer aren’t terrible but lack the depth of earlier Beatles material. The medley feels exactly like what it is, a bunch of unfinished songs stitched together, not a coherent musical piece, with songs like sun king feeling unfinished and forgettable, it doesn’t “come together” as a whole. I like because, something, and she’s so heavy but even those are plagued by the cold production of the album. Overall I don’t think it compares to their other stuff.
Brendan
2019-12-06 02:47:02 +0000 UTCDo you ever have find yourself pre-judging or feeling biased against artists whose political opinion either definitely does or might (ambiguously) differ from your own? Has it ever made getting into an artist that you ended up liking difficult, or maybe changed your opinion of a artist who you used to really admire?
A Policy Wonk Also from Butler PA
2019-12-06 02:22:28 +0000 UTCa lot of top 40 artists aren't actually that bad, artists like Lauv and Troye Sivan for example, they just tend to get bundled into the "mediocre" group just because their hits generally get played on the radio
ari
2019-12-06 01:03:26 +0000 UTCIf DJMAX or Beatmania had really been pushed west around the peak Rock Band/Guitar Hero era and made a touch more accessible EDM would be unrecognizable for the worse as everyone would sound like a discount Porter Robinson.
TonicOri
2019-12-06 00:33:05 +0000 UTCThe White Stripes' "Elephant" is a 10
Tristan Noel
2019-12-06 00:01:17 +0000 UTCThis is Happening is the real album of the decade. Dance punk has never sounded this perfect before and it’s amazing to think that this was the note James Murphy originally wanted to “end” on. Ingenious grooves, brilliant production, lovely showcases displaying clearly who his influences are, and above all else fun as hell
Chris Hickson
2019-12-05 23:42:39 +0000 UTCI don't get the "All My Heroes Are Cornballs" hype
Emffles
2019-12-05 23:42:36 +0000 UTCPinkerton showcases rivers Cuomo’s lyrics more than blue album let alone any weezer album
John camp
2019-12-05 23:20:27 +0000 UTCSpotify's end of the year wrap-up is useless if you are mostly an album listener, because then all of your top songs are just the first few songs from the album you listened to the most this year.
ElephantofDoom
2019-12-05 21:41:58 +0000 UTCThe Shaggs were the original Rebecca Black
Error 52
2019-12-05 21:03:38 +0000 UTCVibing to the Kerning City theme while looking to pq is a mood
haughty garbage
2019-12-05 17:57:29 +0000 UTCShow us your Spotify rewind melon
Griffin
2019-12-05 17:22:20 +0000 UTCRearranging tracks, so they fit better on each side of a vinyl record, can ruin the flow and the experience of an album
Tristan Noel
2019-12-05 15:37:45 +0000 UTCwear earplugs at concerts
Roan Blanchard
2019-12-05 15:23:15 +0000 UTCIf Kanye continues to make gospel-hiphop he's gonna lose at least 40% of his fanbase
Karl Kristiansen
2019-12-05 15:04:55 +0000 UTCUK Grime is overtaking US hip hop.
Henry
2019-12-05 14:40:18 +0000 UTC80s thrash took all the fun out of metal.
Kevin Marcellus Horan
2019-12-05 14:12:34 +0000 UTCThe Emo Trap boom is rap’s Grunge era
lowkeymatt
2019-12-05 14:06:30 +0000 UTCSome Rap Songs was a great album, but for his next project, Earl Sweatshirt should maybe return to a less abstract, lo-fi sound. Three or four more albums with this aesthetic are really not, what his career needs, especially after Feet Of Clay was so meh
Tristan Noel
2019-12-05 11:24:36 +0000 UTCRush > Pink Floyd, Easily
Arnarok
2019-12-05 10:15:23 +0000 UTC“certain stylized” i meant genres. sorry
Dean BUSOUL
2019-12-05 10:04:22 +0000 UTC“artistic” music has never been valued the way it is right now (2000-2019) than in older years (etc. - 1999) or whatsoever. reason why we are is because of how bad and oversaturated the majority of popular or certain stylized music is nowadays. (terrible with my words but if you catch my drift thank you)
Dean BUSOUL
2019-12-05 10:00:19 +0000 UTCAnticon in general and cLOUDDEAD in particular produced huge amounts of great music ahead of their time but have largely been written out of history.
HMN
2019-12-05 09:51:51 +0000 UTCRap artists should retire on top, and not become parodies of themselves.
Izza
2019-12-05 09:08:17 +0000 UTCMBDTF is not even Kanyes best album of the decade, let alone his best album overall. (not counting Kids See Ghosts as a Kanye album)
Simon
2019-12-05 08:42:01 +0000 UTCPin Ups though.
Simon
2019-12-05 08:39:41 +0000 UTCSection 80 is Kendrick Lamar’s best record and TPAB is his worst. Change my mind.
EdibleMessiah
2019-12-05 08:23:36 +0000 UTCSting's vocals on "Every Breath You Take" by the Police are the least important part of the song.
GRFalk
2019-12-05 08:10:42 +0000 UTCMake your viewers vote on patreon between a Pink Floyd or Beatles worst to best and the winner is your 2 mil special
Tjenixen
2019-12-05 07:24:17 +0000 UTCMaplestory soundtrack best soundtrack
Mori Kriman
2019-12-05 07:11:54 +0000 UTCSame with duster smh
Quinn Irion
2019-12-05 07:09:41 +0000 UTCThe easter egg songs for call of duty zombies are peak melodic metalcore. 115 is a fuckin' BANGER
Pol
2019-12-05 06:55:51 +0000 UTCMGMT’s best album is their self titled album, specifically the second half of the album. The soundscapes that they create in songs like I Love You Too, Death and Astro-Mancy are some of the most magical things I’ve ever heard
Noah Anderson
2019-12-05 06:35:28 +0000 UTCPinata by Freddie Gibbs and Madlib is one of the best contemporary rap albums of all time
Elliott
2019-12-05 06:08:38 +0000 UTCWe need to find a way for animals to enjoy music after the humans are gone. It's important. They deserve it.
Gavin Drake
2019-12-05 06:01:13 +0000 UTCJay Z is the biggest sellout of all time
Josh Fried
2019-12-05 05:23:06 +0000 UTCWhy was “A Crow Looked at Me” only a 9 and not a 10?
Joey
2019-12-05 05:17:37 +0000 UTCInstead of bringing back "It came from bandcamp". You should make another series focusing specifically on music from across the globe that may not get as much attention as they usually would. Bandcamp is a great platform for these musicians and I wouldn't have known about artists like Yazz Ahmed, Ana Frango Electrico, and many more. A showcasing of music from across the globe can help broaden our appreciation for world music along with finding hidden gems that may have been lost to obscurity
Omar AlHashmi
2019-12-05 05:17:28 +0000 UTCI don’t think it’s necessarily more compelling. I think it’s just harder to come up with original ways of expressing happiness. People like conflict
Joey
2019-12-05 05:14:21 +0000 UTCAphex twin is reaching joy division levels of aesthetic ubiquity and i don't like it
haughty garbage
2019-12-05 04:20:00 +0000 UTCLes Rallizes Dénudés are the most underrated band of all time!!!! Not only did they take influence from the velvet underground, but they expanded on the noise and experimental aspects way earlier then any other group from the late 60s. Their influence carried throughout Japanese experimental, noise, and harsh noise groups such as Melt Banana, Fushitsusha, Hijokaidan, and White Hospital. Not to mention they have one of the most interesting band history’s of all time, with their alleged involvement of a plane hijacking with ties to the Japanese Red Army.
Quinn Irion
2019-12-05 04:18:13 +0000 UTCraekwons verse on gorgeous sounds like a mf doom ripoff. doom wouldve sounded wayyy better on the track then he did (granted its still one of the better verses on mbdtf)
Uncle Moe
2019-12-05 04:16:33 +0000 UTCThe Great Southern Trendkill influenced You Won’t Get What You Want (guitar tones, vocal layering)
Charlie Davenport
2019-12-05 04:10:45 +0000 UTCThe Happy Birthday Song. Fuck that shit. Chances are that if you're singing it, it's because you have to, not because you want to. And when you're on the receiving end of the song, there's nothing better than having to awkwardly stand there while people sing a song at you. Not to you or for you. At you.
Uncle Jam
2019-12-05 04:05:12 +0000 UTCDavid Bowie from 1971 to 1983 had the single greatest run of albums of any artist ever. He released 12 albums in this run and at most these were amazing, innovative and groundbreaking albums and they all were solid enjoyable releases.
Cooper
2019-12-05 03:58:13 +0000 UTCalthough atrocity exhibition is certainly more adventurous and definitely a *better* album, there's something to be said about the ability to be able to casually listen to uknowhatimsayin?. it's not as good but it's a really laid back and fun album. you can tell danny is healthier and happier which in itself makes this more joyous to listen to. i love AE, but uknowhatimsayin? is able to be appreciated in a way that AE simply cannot.
yasir y khaleq
2019-12-05 03:58:05 +0000 UTCMac millers swimming album is actually fucking great.
Zachary Rothmann
2019-12-05 03:54:47 +0000 UTCplayboi carti will not be that well remembered in 10 years. I like his stuff a lot, but I feel like he's too caught up in the trap wave, similar to how a lot of disco acts from the 1970s, nowadays being well forgotten.
Harvey Greene
2019-12-05 03:44:50 +0000 UTCdeath grips will retire soon.
Harvey Greene
2019-12-05 03:38:09 +0000 UTCThe 2010s have been the best decade for music
Calvin Michael
2019-12-05 03:16:40 +0000 UTCBeck announcing that he isn’t a scientologist was honestly a relief. Not that it kept me from enjoying his art before, and maybe it doesn’t really matter all that much, but it was still disappointing to think he was part of such an abusive and destructive “religion” and it definitely makes me respect him more outside of his art to know that he’s not involved in it.
Dyl Byl
2019-12-05 03:05:08 +0000 UTCOut of all the genres, Crunkcore is the worst.
Benjamin Lisboa
2019-12-05 02:41:59 +0000 UTCThe moment an artist boasts their wealth in their music is the moment I stop listening. I cannot understand how this became a staple of several genres. I guess this is what caused the ace family.
Seinfeld
2019-12-05 02:30:06 +0000 UTCLike 3 years ago. Now it's headed to reel to reel
Seinfeld
2019-12-05 02:28:23 +0000 UTCBoth Daveed Diggs and Slug belong in the GOAT rapper conversation. Daveed regularly out-raps GOAT rappers and is stronger conceptually than any other fast rapper. Clipping is on the cutting edge of experimental hiphop, the Blindspotting EP was heat, and the dude was part of the biggest hiphop Broadway play in history and a cultural touchstone. As for Slug, if Ghostface is in the GOAT conversation, Slug deserves a seat at the table. He’s every bit the storyteller Ghost is if not better, he’s been consistently putting out work for three decades with no major drops in quality, and the dude led the way for both early emo rap and Midwest rap as a whole.
ZD
2019-12-05 02:24:25 +0000 UTCWhile your lukewarm reaction to it is fine, I found your criticism of the sound on Santana's new album a bit odd. You said the instruments and vocals felt too isolated from each other and lacked chemistry. I wondered if you were aware that the entire thing was recorded in live studio sessions with all players present.
NevadaNate
2019-12-05 02:18:50 +0000 UTCWhat score would you give the 2010s? Personally I'd give the decade a strong 5 to a light 6.
carsausage
2019-12-05 02:17:23 +0000 UTCPeople only hate your Swimming review because Mac died a month after it
beef
2019-12-05 02:16:00 +0000 UTCPaul Simon’s “Graceland” is one of, if not the best, albums of the 1980’s. It blends afro-beat, zydeco, and even Chicano rock seamlessly with folk and 80’s pop music. That’s not even mentioning it’s influence on seminal 2000’s indie acts such as Vampire Weekend, The Tallest Man on Earth, Jens Lekman, and tUnE-yArDs. It is the definition of a timeless classic that stood apart from any other American album released that decade.
BlueZones
2019-12-05 02:15:33 +0000 UTCFive Finger Death Punch doesn't deserve the hate they get: they deserve more. It's derivative bro metal that tugs at the hearts of JROTC kids in high school who punch holes in their drywall.
FELCommentary
2019-12-05 02:04:19 +0000 UTCI was one of the people angry at your DAMN. review but after coming back to it 2 years later you were right in fact I think it’s a 6 now
TeflonDoom
2019-12-05 02:01:40 +0000 UTCKing Diamond’s best work came after he released Abigail. The albums he released after that record told better stories with better music. Nothing against Abigail, it’s still a great album but it’s not as great as Them, Conspiracy or The Eye.
Tim Arendt
2019-12-05 02:01:04 +0000 UTCThe Undertale OST has some of the best music of the decade
corbitgun
2019-12-05 02:00:51 +0000 UTCBen Folds Five had an amazing run in the 90s and are incredibly underated for the 90s rock scene
Bigmac9002
2019-12-05 01:59:59 +0000 UTCKing of Limbs by Radiohead gets bashed far too much. It gave us some awesome experimental songs.
Sam Jirovec
2019-12-05 01:59:42 +0000 UTCAlso love that the link to the last Let's Argue contains the text "lets argue Jesus".
Owen W
2019-12-05 01:59:24 +0000 UTCLisa Simpson is the perfect example of a straight-edge vegan.
Zachary F Parker
2019-12-05 01:58:52 +0000 UTCBillie Eilish makes better music than Van Halen ever did
Reverie Foster
2019-12-05 01:56:37 +0000 UTCVan Halen with David Lee Roth was fantastic. I feel like a lot of people like to shit on them and act like they have nothing worthwhile, when the debut and fair warning are near perfect albums
Adam mezzarone
2019-12-05 01:55:36 +0000 UTCMy dumb gf doesn't like Kate Bush. Prove her wrong.
Louie Gross
2019-12-05 01:55:18 +0000 UTCNeil Young is better than Bob Dylan in every aspect
Minyoung Kim
2019-12-05 01:55:05 +0000 UTCSubjects of pain, failure, rage, impotency, loss, or confusion are more aesthetic and artistically compelling in music and art than subjects of success, triumph, pleasure, or happiness.
Benedict Wright
2019-12-05 01:55:03 +0000 UTCCan you explain the difference between synth pop, electro pop, and dance pop? I have a hard time distinguishing them, especially with how much overlap there is between them.
Owen W
2019-12-05 01:53:10 +0000 UTCHello Nasty is the best Beastie Boys album. It might not be a groundbreaking as Paul's Boutique, but it has a lot more variety, and I find myself coming back to it more
egg56
2019-12-05 01:51:54 +0000 UTCThe alternate versions of the songs on the deluxe version of Muse’s “Simulation Theory” are better than the original songs and would’ve made for a better album overall (EX: The acoustic version of “Dig Down” vs the original).
Kincaid
2019-12-05 01:51:42 +0000 UTCKidneythieves are one of the finest industrial groups of all time
Jon Hoskins
2019-12-05 01:51:14 +0000 UTCIt’s about time Billboard changed the way they count album bundle sales. There were countless albums that would’ve never gone #1 otherwise.
BigBabyBerkis
2019-12-05 01:51:00 +0000 UTCWhile Queens of the Stone Ages “Songs for the Deaf” is probably their best record, I think records like Like Clockwork don’t get enough credit for also being a very well written and a being a consistent addition to the bands discography. Saying you prefer Like Clockwork to their other records is a fair argument. Same thing goes for Rated R. (i still like SFTD more tho)
Riley Schmedeman
2019-12-05 01:50:48 +0000 UTCLeonard Cohen is a better lyricist than Bob Dylan. his lyrics are more poetic, evocative, and subtle. while Dylan’s use of structure and the abstract is impressive in its own right, it’s quite unnatural compared to Cohen’s.
John Fu
2019-12-05 01:50:08 +0000 UTCYour vibe checks will annihilate the establishment and instill a brand new government state
Seth Rodriguez
2019-12-05 01:49:45 +0000 UTCThe Pokémon Sword/Shield soundtrack slaps.
Chandler Anderson
2019-12-05 01:49:19 +0000 UTCBaby Yoda is meme of the year
Buddy Sweathole
2019-12-05 01:49:18 +0000 UTCfloat is the best meme rapper
YRCChris
2019-12-05 01:49:10 +0000 UTCPuffy AmiYumi dont get enough credit for introducing a whole generation of American kids to J-pop without them realizing it (Ex. the Teen Titans theme song & K2g which used for the iconic chase sequence in the first Mad Mod episode).
Logan Colburn
2019-12-05 01:48:38 +0000 UTCBeach House is pretty over rated, all they do is make sleepy dream pop music
Kameron Martinez
2019-12-05 01:48:25 +0000 UTCdo you think poppys music might be better or worse now that she doesn’t work with titanic anymore?
johnna
2019-12-05 01:48:12 +0000 UTCBig L is the most underrated rapper of all time.
Sebastian Bravo
2019-12-05 01:48:12 +0000 UTCpretzels
2019-12-05 01:48:07 +0000 UTCBeach House is the best dream pop band of all time
Blake Robinson
2019-12-05 01:47:45 +0000 UTC