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Thread: [OFFICIAL] PRT Statement on Brockton Bay Missile Incident + Hookwolf Photo Leak [SERIOUS]

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OP: EndbringerSoon
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:21:04AM
Hey all,
PRT East-Northeast just released an official statement. Their words, not mine:

Confirmed “unauthorised missile launch” traced to Brockton Bay yesterday, ‘origin currently under investigation.’
Group responsible is suspected to be linked to: 1) the public execution of Thomas Calvert (Coil), 2) the Herren Clan massacre, 3) “destabilisation and absorption” of former villain networks, 4) unauthorised missile test in city limits.
PRT classifying the org as S-Class, “national security threat,” and designating them as villains.
Provisional codename for their leader: Hollowpoint (pending full identification).
Pictures circulating on PHO and social media showing the body of Hookwolf with a message spray-painted on the ground: “JUSTICE DELIVERED—A GIFT FROM BROCKTON BAY’S PEACEKEEPERS.”
PRT basically said “don’t trust vigilantes; these are criminals, do not support them.”
But, like, the city’s… safer? Are the “Peacekeepers” heroes, villains, or something else? I’m torn. And what’s with that hawk symbol?
Discuss.

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Reply: BayChill
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:22:11AM
They waited until after the pictures hit the net to put this out.
Absolutely shameless. If this is what “villain” means, maybe we need more “villains.”
(also, rip Gallant. E88 deserved it.)

Reply: SoulWatcher
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:24:36AM
The city’s “safer” but half the capes here are dead or disappeared. That’s sus IMHO.

Reply: TinFoilHat
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:24:38AM
Oh, come ON. The PRT’s announcement is pure damage control. They’re humiliated because Hollowpoint’s group outed their own consultant (Calvert) as a supervillain, rescued Dinah Alcott, and made the heroes look like chumps. You really think the PRT didn’t know about Calvert? I’m calling BS. They’re slapping the “terrorist” label on these guys to save face. Also, anyone else notice the timing? PRT drops their statement, and bam, Hookwolf’s dead with a “Peacekeepers” calling card. That’s a middle finger to the PRT if I ever saw one. P.S. That hawk symbol? Bet it’s a reference to some old myth or something. Anyone got a lead on that?

Reply: NiceGuy1123
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:25:19AM
Honestly?
Whoever “Hollowpoint” is, they did what the PRT wouldn’t/couldn’t.
Coil gone, Dinah rescued, Hookwolf torched, ABB in hiding, Merchants scattered.
If you’re in Brockton, that’s a win.

Reply: ModBot (Moderator)
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:26:10AM
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Reply: RecoilJoke
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:27:41AM
Heroes. Full stop. The PRT’s been sitting on their hands for YEARS while the ABB and E88 turned the Bay into a warzone. Hollowpoint’s group shows up, and in three weeks, Coil’s gone, the Empire’s done, and Hookwolf’s a barbecue. You see the streets lately? I walked through the Docks last night and didn’t feel like I was going to get jumped. First time in a decade. PRT’s just mad someone’s doing their job better.

Reply: BlackholeSun
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:28:33AM
@RecoilJoke, I get the hometown pride, but let’s not drink the Kool-Aid. Launching missiles in a city isn’t “heroic.” That’s reckless endangerment on a massive scale. And executing Coil? Yeah, he was scum, but the PRT had him. Killing a guy in custody screams “we don’t trust the system, so we make our own rules.” That’s villain logic. Next thing you know, they’re demanding protection money or blowing up City Hall because “it’s for the greater good.”

Reply: ArmchairThinker
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:29:22AM
I’m with RecoilJoke. The Bay’s been a hellhole for years—ABB, E88, Merchants, you name it. The PRT’s all talk, no action. Hollowpoint’s group comes in, and suddenly villains are dropping like flies. I don’t care if they’re launching missiles or whatever; they’re making my kid’s walk to school safer. That’s what matters. PRT can cry about “terrorism” all they want, but they’re just mad they got shown up.

Also, that “Peacekeepers” name? Badass. Sounds like they’re here to stay.

Reply: SindriIsMyCopilot
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:30:04AM
If the “Peacekeepers” (god, that’s a PR coup) are ex-villains, does that mean the villains are the good guys now?
My brain hurts.

Reply: ttrggrd (Moderator)
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:30:55AM
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Reply: PhobosOrbit
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:32:42AM
Wild that it took a “villain” to do what all the so-called heroes kept wringing their hands about for months.
Missile was a message. The feds got scared, and now they’re desperate to get out in front of the story.
City’s still standing. I’m with the Peacekeepers.

Reply: DragonFan4Life
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:33:29AM
Counterpoint:
If you think launching a missile in a US city = “peacekeeping,” you need to have your head examined.
What happens when Hollowpoint decides the next “threat” is someone he doesn’t like?
If this is “order,” it’s one step away from dictatorship.

Reply: R3SP3CT
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:34:55AM
Tinfoil hat on:
Anyone else think PRT is about to “find” a bunch of evidence that just happens to make the Peacekeepers look worse?
Maybe even frame them for something big?
Never forget: Coilgate. Their credibility = zero.

Reply: AllSeeingEye
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:36:10AM
Holy shit those photos are real.

These guys are NOT fucking around.

Reply: IRLHostageCrab
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:37:01AM
As someone who's actually IN Brockton Bay right now, let me tell you what the PRT statement sounds like to us locals:

"Oh no, the scary group that eliminated the Empire, saved that kidnapped girl, and executed the child-abusing mastermind is now a terrorist organisation because they have big scary weapons!"

Meanwhile, we can actually walk the streets at night for the first time in YEARS.

Fuck the PRT. Go Peacekeepers.

Reply: Reave (Verified PRT Agent)
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:37:48AM
I want to remind everyone that discussion of classified military assets and terrorist organisations is monitored. The individuals responsible for the unauthorised missile test pose a clear and present danger to civilian populations.

The fact that they eliminated certain villains does not excuse their escalation to weapons of mass destruction.

Reply: ForQueenAndCountry
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:39:12AM
Everyone’s so sure this is a good thing.
What if Peacekeepers are just clearing the field for something worse?
Or someone worse?
Just because they killed a few monsters doesn’t mean they aren’t monsters themselves.

Reply: XxVoid_CowboyxX (Temp-Banned)
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:39:12AM
@Reave lmao "weapons of mass destruction"

How is that a WMD you absolute muppet? Also, strange that we have “villains” cleaning up the city whilst your people let a child-kidnapping crime boss operate for YEARS.

Maybe focus on actual threats instead of the people cleaning up your failures?

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Reply: PirateByBlood
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:40:17AM
lol @ “Peacekeepers”
Can we talk about that branding?
10/10, would hire for my next criminal enterprise.

Reply: Tin_Mother (Moderator)
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:41:05AM
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Reply: HeyArmsmasterNoticeMe
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:41:59AM
As someone who doesn’t live in Brockton Bay, I’m gonna say it: you guys are way too quick to worship these “Peacekeepers.” Yeah, they took out Hookwolf and Coil, but they also executed a guy in PRT custody and fired missiles in a city. That’s not cleaning up; that’s warlord behaviour. What happens when they decide they don’t like the mayor or the PRT’s new director? You really want a group like that deciding who lives and who dies? The PRT’s not perfect, but at least they’re accountable. Hollowpoint’s just a shadow with a gun and a god complex.

Reply: /u/_Bagels
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:42:41AM
@HeyArmsmasterNoticeMe “accountable”? The PRT let Coil operate under their noses for years. They let Hookwolf murder Gallant and didn’t do squat until after he was taken out. Accountable my ass. You don’t live here, so you don’t get it. The Bay’s been a warzone, and the PRT’s been collecting paychecks while we dodge bullets. Hollowpoint’s the only one actually fixing things.

Reply: Wormfood
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:43:22AM
If this Hollowpoint guy is reading (and let’s be honest, these types ALWAYS read), just want to say:
Thanks for cleaning house, but don’t get too comfy.
We all know what happens to “heroes” who go too far.

Reply: UrbanHermit
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:44:17AM
Question for the thread: if they’re taking out villains, why not join the Protectorate? Why go full vigilante-terrorist?

Reply: ConspiracyNut42
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:44:59AM
@UrbanHermit, they’re not joining the Protectorate because the system’s rotten. Think about it: Coil was a PRT consultant. The Empire ran the Bay for years, and the PRT barely touched them. Hollowpoint’s probably seen how the game’s played and decided to burn the board. I’m not saying I trust them, but I get why they’re not signing up for Armsmaster’s book club.

Reply: BayResidentAnon24
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:45:12AM
Okay, but real talk: that hawk symbol is cool. Like, straight out of a comic book. I bet Hollowpoint’s got a whole aesthetic going. And yeah, I know, “missiles bad,” but if they’re taking out trash like Hookwolf and Coil, I’m not complaining. Also, I’m just gonna say it: the PRT looks like a bunch of salty losers right now. They call Hollowpoint a terrorist minutes after the Peacekeepers drop Hookwolf’s corpse with a bow on it. You can’t make this up. My neighbour’s kid got caught in the crossfire of an E88-ABB fight last year. He’s still in therapy. If these Peacekeepers are taking out the gangs, I’m sending them a fruit basket. PRT can shove their “national security threat” nonsense.

Reply: CapeWatcher99
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:46:05AM
@BayResidentAnon24 I feel for your neighbour, but you’re missing the bigger picture. These guys aren’t your friendly neighbourhood vigilantes. They’ve got military-grade tech, a body count, and no oversight. You’re cheering because they’re hitting your enemies, but what happens when they turn on someone you like? Or when they decide the Bay’s “stabilised” and start running it like Coil did? Power like that doesn’t stay altruistic.

Reply: DragonFan42
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:46:22AM
@CapeWatcher99’s got a point. The missile thing is what’s freaking me out. Suborbital tech isn’t something you whip up in a garage. That’s Tinker-level stuff, and if they’ve got someone like Bakuda or a Toybox connection, we’re talking about a group that could level the city if they wanted. The PRT’s not wrong to be worried. I mean, yeah, they took out Hookwolf, but what’s the endgame? They’re not just “cleaning up” for funsies.

Reply: TinFoilHat
Posted on June 03, 2011 09:46:24AM
Okay, hear me out: what if Hollowpoint’s group is a front for something bigger? Like, what if they’re a Guild op gone rogue? Or maybe Cauldron’s behind them? I mean, come on, how does a nobody cape show up out of nowhere with missiles, a hit squad, and the ability to unmask half the Bay’s villains? That’s not a solo act. They’ve got backing. Bet my left kidney it’s tied to the Endbringers somehow.

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Posted on June 04, 2011 10:48:02AM
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Reply: MarkovChainmail
Posted on June 04, 2011 10:48:45AM
Can someone post a summary of everything this “Peacekeeper” org has actually done?
I lost track after the Coil thing.
No tinfoil, just facts.

Reply: Card-Carrying Cynic
Posted on June 04, 2011 10:49:13AM
Summary (as best I can gather, in order):

Coil unmasked and arrested (Peacekeeper op, allegedly).
Dinah Alcott rescued, media leaks evidence of her kidnapping. Allegedly.
Herren Clan wiped out in a “gang war.” Allegedly.
E88 capes unmasked, mass arrests. Allegedly.
Coil executed mid-transfer (video leaked online, public support surprisingly high). Confirmed by PRT.
Missiles launched from Brockton Bay, PRT scrambles. Confirmed by PRT.
Hookwolf and E88 leadership killed, photo released. Confirmed by PRT.
“Peacekeepers” (name stuck after Hookwolf) credited for bringing order to the city.
If I missed anything, feel free to add.

Reply: ABadEnd
Posted on June 04, 2011 10:49:59AM
Hookwolf was a monster. He killed a friend of mine. But this isn't the way. This is chaos. Taking the law into your own hands only leads to more violence and death. What happens when these "Peacekeepers" decide someone else is a threat? What if it's a hero who disagrees with them? Or a civilian who gets in their way? They've already shown they're willing to kill. They've shown they have no regard for our laws. That should scare everyone.

Reply: S9Paranoia
Posted on June 04, 2011 10:50:25AM
Am I the only one freaked out that nobody knows who Hollowpoint is?
How do you just appear with an army, outsmart the PRT, and take down everyone without showing your powers?
That’s not normal cape stuff.

Reply: ThirdWinter
Posted on June 04, 2011 10:51:44AM
Wild theory: Hollowpoint is a cape from outside Brockton.
Nobody local could’ve pulled all this off.
Maybe even a Triumvirate reject.
Don’t @ me.

Reply: MissMilitiaAppreciationSociety
Posted on June 04, 2011 10:52:10AM
If Peacekeepers are so “good,” why do they use blackmail, kidnapping, and threats?
Just because they kill worse people doesn’t make them “heroes.”
We need law, not more monsters.

Reply: JackPoint
Posted on June 04, 2011 10:53:19AM
We need results.
Coil and E88 hurt more people than the Peacekeepers ever will.
I don’t care if Hollowpoint’s a monster if he keeps my street safe.

Reply: [Mod] ttrggrd
Posted on June 04, 2011 10:54:05AM
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Reply: IRLHostageCrab
Posted on June 04, 2011 10:54:56AM
You can tell how hard the feds are sweating by how fast the PRT started labeling.
It’s almost funny.
Missile launches = bad, but I feel safer than I have in years.
Just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Reply: PhobosOrbit
Posted on June 04, 2011 10:55:41AM
What happens if/when Hollowpoint makes demands?
Do we even have a choice but to give in?
He’s got leverage, tech, an army, and apparently no morals.

Reply: Vista (Verified Cape) (Wards ENE)
Posted on June 04, 2011 10:56:18AM
I can't say much officially, but...

Gallant was my friend. My teammate.

Hookwolf killed him.

I'm not saying I support everything these "Peacekeepers" do, but they got justice for someone who deserved it. So, thank you.

Reply: Kid_Win (Verified Cape) (Wards ENE)
Posted on June 04, 2011 10:57:09AM
@Vista

Dean would want us to do things the right way. Legal way.

These people are vigilantes. Dangerous ones.

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Posted on June 04, 2011 10:57:51AM
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