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MM38 - 90’s Trans Representation feat. Louise Weard

Today Will and Hesse are joined by filmmaker Louise Weard to discuss two controversial 90’s films that bend both genre and gender: Neil Jordan’s The Crying Game and David Cronenberg’s M. Butterfly. We dive into the sexual politics, regular politics, and, of course, the famous twist. Join us as we answer the question once and for all: Are these movies transphobic??

MM38 - 90’s Trans Representation feat. Louise Weard

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I’ve never seen The Crying Game and I had it mixed up with Boys Don’t Cry and I was extremely confused when they started talking about Forrest Whitaker & the IRA

Max Fennig

I had never seen crying game before/didn’t know any of the cultural baggage around it I’m pretty much completely in line with hesse. I understand the guests opinion on it but going in and judging the movie just for what it is without the other buzz around it I didn’t see “the reveal” as anything special or a gag or something, I just sympathized with dil.

Elliot Hashington

What if Dill had a duck penis? Now that be a twist

Jimmy McMillan

Louise was a great guest. Nice to hear some gentle disagreement and debate. Don’t get me wrong, I love Movie Mindset but sometimes it can be a lot of agreeing with each other and praising each movie, I like hearing some argument about movies sometimes.

Evan G

..cva

Christian Torgersen

My dumbass was confusing Ray Stevenson and Stephen Rae for a sec, muhaha

Nate Christy

Regarding the image of Jody that Stephen Rea has in his head: Jody is playing cricket and bowling in that sequence, but particularly Jody is *spin* bowling, a style of bowling where the ball changes direction after it bounces (I guess kind of like a curve ball in Baseball) You can imagine the significance of this in a movie like the Crying Game

Adam Foster

Does Will have an English degree

LEAH NELSON

I didn’t think the bedroom scene in M Butterfly was racist at all: the point was that when Rene’s wife pantomimed the opera, he acts repulsed. Seeing his fantasy reflected back at him in this way makes it uncomfortably clear that it isn’t real. China for him is a kind of Zone where your projections can become real.

Jason Matthews

The Jeremy Irons "Could a father not marry his son?" interview is SO funny, because on paper it's all bog-standard homophobic talking points, but with Jeremy Irons saying them it sounds like he's discovering a new dimension of carnal depravity in real time. It sounds like Jeremy Irons is alone on the moon, being ravished by visions of dog incest

Michael S. Judge

this Bernard Boursicot guy is a weeb on a level that might never even be approached

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