Three Steps Forward, One Step Back
Added 2023-03-02 15:52:42 +0000 UTCFor those that have been following along, today's update was about removing the "travel bug". Skarrds Trait's is now "travel bug" free. However I could not remove it from all the features. (Compromising Photos, and Fondling & Groping still has the bug) I separated the parts I could not find a solution for and separated them from the main mod so you can decide what you would rather have.
Wicked Whims is now required.
With Wicked Whims, the sims now recognize nudity. Some new buffs and new social interactions for that. Also, alcohol gets an upgrade. While drinking alcohol, your sim (who's naturalism skill doesn't matter anymore) will be open to removing clothing. A sim that gets wasted, will be temporarily open to cheating or polyamorous relations. Game play testing showed that, if the drunk sim finds the target sim "ugly" they still may deny sex.
The date rape gets a very powerful upgrade as well. Now, the drugged sim will temporarily "always accept sex".
Basemental Drugs compatibility. Any sim with either the Pervert or Sexually Awkward trait will no longer get any drinking buffs from Basementals mod. (no double drinking buffs)
If you don't care about the "travel bug" then download and install all the files below. If you want the "travel bug" gone, do NOT download the "Compromising Photos add on" Or the Fondling Groping add on"
Skarrds Traits and Devious Trait are now travel bug free.
Comments
Thanks for getting back on this! I'm sure the new update is also gonna be annoying
Bubba
2023-03-23 22:26:39 +0000 UTCFirst, you need to add the devious trait to a perverted sim through the dialog options. SO you make the sim a pervert first, then you can make that sim devious. Look at photo on FEB 2nd post below for devious social interactions and the pervert social interactions are on that first post on LL.
Skarrd
2023-03-15 01:59:24 +0000 UTCNot sure if im doing something wrong but the Devious tab doesn't appear for me. Despite having the addon
MomoMochiCream
2023-03-15 01:56:58 +0000 UTCAmazing! It would amazing to see an Obessed sim mistake their victims actions for "playing hard to get" or "I know you really want this." type of vibe.
MomoMochiCream
2023-03-14 22:46:34 +0000 UTCAlso after checking because of yours and others reports, you are correct, "I want to get you drunk" is not functioning correctly. I am looking in to that. Thanks for the feedback.
Skarrd
2023-03-14 03:04:45 +0000 UTCYou're talking about obsession? But buffs that advance as the relationship develops. (for better or worse) Sorta got some ideas but hadn't thought about obsessing. It's a good idea.
Skarrd
2023-03-14 02:54:01 +0000 UTCI haven't tried the mod just yet, but I was wondering. Do perverts(rapist) sims and the victims get special moodlets? Like if a perv sim constantly goes after a single victim.
MomoMochiCream
2023-03-14 01:37:59 +0000 UTCAh okay. Thanks for getting back to me! Good looking out!
Greywn12
2023-03-13 21:20:33 +0000 UTCI wanted to reply because I have been messing with the "I want to get you drunk" and I was wrong. It is not working like it used too. I just wanted to tell you so you weren't wasting time trying to figure out what's wrong on your end.
Skarrd
2023-03-13 20:22:13 +0000 UTCOnce they laugh, whats supposed to happen, is the sim you are in control of, is supposed to go to the bar and make a drink. If they don't automatically do that, then you can manually do that. The sim who's drink you want to slip the drug in to should drink. It really should. And "ordering drink for" should work just fine as well. Unless a few sim hours have passed since you starting the event and the sim not drinking. The drink can be made before hand. It won't matter. After you use the social interacting, "slip a date rape drug" the next drink the victim sim drinks will be drugged. You won't see an animation of your sim dropping a drug in anything. They are too quick for that. If it's an NPC that you are doing it too, you won't know because you won't see their buffs. But they will be drunk, have lost inhibitions and will "always accept sex". That all works and has been tested thoroughly. There's no menu that pop's up to let you know. You notice their behaviour.
Skarrd
2023-03-12 14:09:18 +0000 UTCFor some reason the rape drug isn't working for me. My sim shows the laugh animation as if they're going to do something, but nothing is done and the target sim also doesn't do anything. Same thing when I use the "I want to get you drunk option". And if I do the vanilla "order drink for", they will not have any effects from that drink
Bubba
2023-03-12 08:45:27 +0000 UTCI have thought of something along those lines and although I'm not sure how to do most of that I think there's some great ideas there. I'm adding it to the list.
Skarrd
2023-03-12 03:02:16 +0000 UTCAh I see. Thanks for the conversation. I will keep trying. I was really drawn to the compromising photos portion of the mod. Did you think about adding negative options to that? Like sending the photo to the significant other to cause havoc with the relationship? Or maybe posting pic online, then every sim who sees it either heckles the sim or approaches them because they think they are easy. I don't know. Just some suggestions. Keep up the good work!
Greywn12
2023-03-12 02:56:00 +0000 UTCHow I had it set up before is a variety of motivations that I place on commands when making the mod. It's nothing you do. This current set up has a lot more restrictions than the other set up but I'm starting to think simpler is better. Otherwise I can accept defeat and just remove them.
Skarrd
2023-03-12 02:03:34 +0000 UTCNot to take up your time or anything, but could you tell me how you had it set up before? If not, no worries. I'm just curious.
Greywn12
2023-03-12 01:59:33 +0000 UTCAlso, the NPC will not drink more using I want to get you drunk AFTER they have had at least one drink. After they have had at least one drink, "you should have another drink" should get them to drink more.
Skarrd
2023-03-12 01:47:48 +0000 UTCAutonomy in the sims 4 can be tricky. You might know this if you've ever had a computer in your sims home. If you have, sims are overwhelmingly drawn to the computer. Like an obsession to the point, I don't have computers in mu sims homes. Also, there are a number of desires. (desire bars on your sims persuade them to "want" to do other things.) So there are a lot of moving parts in the game that I can not possibly anticipate. (if they're tired, their going to go to sleep instead of bar tend) In addition, I have been messing with the things I can, to manipulate sims in to doing what I want and every time I think I have it figured out, I start thinking I don't. This current way I have it, I'm starting to think it was better the way I had it set up before. Another thing I've learned, is teens do not respond to the bar or bar tending like adults are. (my current set up was trying to get teens to bar tend) So no, you're not doing anything wrong. That being said, when I play and use that command, my sims always go to the bar. (except teens) And always bar tend. And the sim I want to get drunk will always drink an available drink (if adult will want to order one). Every time. Sometimes they talk first. Sometimes the jump right to it. You'll want to top up their main desires and try it then. See if you get a different reaction. I don't get a lot of feedback so your observations and comments are very helpful I appreciate it.
Skarrd
2023-03-12 01:24:18 +0000 UTCHello. Thanks for the response! So I tried to reinstall the mod a few times and I finally found it. The problem now is that I can't get anyone drunk. I can serve them like normal when clicking on the bar, but when I choose "I want to get you drunk", nothing happens. I select "I want to get you drunk", they walk to the bar...and just stare at each other lol. I have tried this with 6 or 7 different sims and the same thing. I did get to serve one drink to a sim, but could not get them to drink more. Same thing...they just stand there. It may be another mod conflicting with yours...I don't know.
Greywn12
2023-03-12 01:10:13 +0000 UTCHi! "I want to get you Drunk" moved to "Pervy" -> "Manipulation". It will only be available if the target sim is sober. If they have had at least one drink, only, "You should have another drink" will be available. (also under Manipulation)
Skarrd
2023-03-11 13:14:29 +0000 UTCHello...I'm not sure if I am missing something or not, but the "I want to get you drunk" option doesn't show in the devious menu. Any suggestions? Are there prerequisites before you can do that?
Greywn12
2023-03-11 06:34:05 +0000 UTCIf you don't have wicked whims you can't have sex. Which might explain a lot of the confusion.
Skarrd
2023-03-11 04:21:08 +0000 UTCSex is done through the wicked whims menu. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/66213-wickedwhims-v174f-2023-03-01/ (you'll have to copy and paste in to your web browser)
Skarrd
2023-03-11 04:20:19 +0000 UTC“…they will have sex with you , guaranteed ….” ?.? But how ?! No any/new menu ?! With ww , befor and after is same everything ?
fashgi
2023-03-11 04:18:12 +0000 UTCDR drug is the Date Rape drug and it's found under the "Devious" social category. After you successfully drug your victims drink and after they drink it, they will have sex with you, guaranteed.
Skarrd
2023-03-09 19:50:00 +0000 UTCWhat is DR DRUG? And how can I find it? Plz
fashgi
2023-03-09 19:46:51 +0000 UTCI'm glad it's working.
Skarrd
2023-03-08 22:10:09 +0000 UTCok I tried deleting the mod completely and redownloaded and everything worked, so it was definitely on my end, sorry about that
Brayson
2023-03-08 06:19:41 +0000 UTCOkay. The only suggestion regarding the DR drug not working is it only works on a sim with a skarrds trait. (pervert or awkward) So maybe double check the target sim has one. I can confirm that it's working. And it won't stop working by itself so if there were any recent updates or new mods? Regarding the panties in a twist, it's working for sure. And you'll need the fondling and groping add on to complete the "harassment" requirements. (aside from the verbal harassment there has to be some grabbing/fondling) So make sure that's installed.
Skarrd
2023-03-08 04:49:34 +0000 UTCI should add, all of it worked a few days ago when I last played
Brayson
2023-03-08 03:52:51 +0000 UTCnot sure if I'm doing something wrong but I tried to play today and the DR drug doesn't seem to do anything for me anymore, the others work fine though. Also panties in a twist isnt showing up either. I tried several times with two different awkward sims and it doesn't seem to work for whatever reason.
Brayson
2023-03-08 03:52:16 +0000 UTCI will take a look.
Skarrd
2023-03-07 20:12:06 +0000 UTCRight! You're not doing anything wrong. This was something I did not anticipate. This is designed the way it is to prevent someone from putting both traits on the same sim. (which would screw up most functions) Although, I could add a bunch of social interactions to allow you to reverse that, that would create a bunch of new social interactions that would constantly add to the social interaction options and considering that normally adding the trait is a one time deal. I recommend downloading a add traits mod like this: https://www.patreon.com/posts/update-more-cas-41343966 you want to download, chingyu_AddTraitsMenu_July2022.zip and install that. When back in game, click on that sim, look for "action" and then "remove trait". If you don't like that one, there are many more out there to choose from.
Skarrd
2023-03-07 20:11:40 +0000 UTCI've noticed that theres one specific sim that I can't change into a pervert. I accidentally made him sexually awkward and ever since then, I haven't been able to switch over to pervert. Every other sim I'm able to, but this one I'm not for some reason. Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Hailanator
2023-03-07 05:31:16 +0000 UTC“…. The date rape gets a very powerful upgrade as well. Now, the drugged sim will temporarily "always accept sex".….” , but in my game everything is same as before ! And i cand kiss ! a drunk sim , with negative relation ?!
fashgi
2023-03-05 05:39:57 +0000 UTCI'll give that a shot.. .As for the social meter, Turbo shouldn't have his sex meter override it, should have used a pie menu meter like Devious Desires does. But Turbo has put out two pre-releases since then, so maybe one of them fixes the issue but I really don't care for WW so I just use it for non sex things that DD doesn't do, like peepers, but Devious Desires is getting a predation fetish which will cause some sims to stalk which is far cooler than peeping.
Dev Apophisly
2023-03-04 15:00:13 +0000 UTCThe fondling and groping is just using base game interactions, like embrace, kiss, passionate kiss, tickle relentlessly, etc. Depending on the traits involved or the state of drunkenness determines the buffs that appear with the context of what is going on.
Skarrd
2023-03-04 14:12:41 +0000 UTCI've noticing the social bar disappearing too. Right after sex. Ever since WW introduced the sex meter, or climax meter. I figured it was a WW thing. My mod doesn't do any UI alterations, so I seriously doubt it's this.
Skarrd
2023-03-04 13:51:08 +0000 UTCI'm digging the awkward trait and the moodlets it gets, I added the groping add on, I rarely use the travel function so that ain't a big thing, but I can't figure out how to use the groping. One little bug, the sims with the traits, the social meter vanishes at times and requires leaving the lot and returning, could be the groping addon causing that, I'll check later....
Dev Apophisly
2023-03-04 10:21:01 +0000 UTCThere is no extra functionality with these. It was about removing the "travel bug" And since I couldn't remove the bug completely, I separated the parts that still have the bug and made them an optional add on. That's all.
Skarrd
2023-03-03 21:17:14 +0000 UTCI'm not seeing any functionality that wasn't there before with all these extra scripts. How do we use these?
Veronica Tash
2023-03-03 20:59:48 +0000 UTCI like the idea
Martin VG
2023-03-03 19:37:05 +0000 UTCSims without either of the pervert trait or sexually awkward trait will receive Basemental drinking buffs as intended.
Skarrd
2023-03-03 16:07:54 +0000 UTCRight! That is the change. Before, all sims would get tipsy and drunk. Now it's only the ones with those traits. That was part of removing the travel bug. Now those drinking buffs are trait exclusive. I could fix it by creating a "normal" trait for those that want the drinking buffs but not the trait.
Skarrd
2023-03-03 15:47:38 +0000 UTCI'd try removing the basemental integration and see if the issue still exists, just a hunch its having the mod playing with or without basemental that opened the door to the issue..
Dev Apophisly
2023-03-03 14:10:45 +0000 UTCHey Skarrd. It happens to me too. Only pervs or awkward sims get tipsy, etc. I have WW installed but not Basemental. I tried as well in a new clean save. I have the latest patch installed. On the other hand, you did a tremendous work with the travel bug. Thanks a bunch
Martin VG
2023-03-03 13:41:19 +0000 UTCNo the shift click thing doesn't seem to work yet. Dialog or one of the add trait mods will do it in a couple clicks.
Skarrd
2023-03-02 23:20:02 +0000 UTCThank you!
Granny
2023-03-02 21:18:19 +0000 UTCI tried a clean install, tried the public WW, was using the Paetron one, the only way they get the moodlets is if they're set to perv or awkward, and they have to be the drink maker. The other moodlets work as always, like the stripping one, the hard nipple one, etc, and so on, its just the drinking ones seem bugged. I'm not using the latest patch from EA, I'm on the second to last patch, but I don't think the last patch made any major changes.
Dev Apophisly
2023-03-02 18:49:12 +0000 UTCThis was tested with the current public version of WW. Regardless of the version of WW should not effect the drinking buffs or devious traits in any way. The only thing that would be effected would be a willingness to strip when normally scared of nudity and cheating on partners when wasted. Something else is going on there.
Skarrd
2023-03-02 18:16:48 +0000 UTCI use wicked whims, at first I wasn't getting the tipsy, drunk, etc buffs, but then I made the Sim sexually awkward, now she gets the buffs/moodlets. With the previous version of Traits/Devious, she got them without the awkward trait, now seems she needs it, not a big deal, but based on my testing, it seems they do need it. But based on your post, seems you may have intentionally did that to flag sims with the trait not to get double buffs due to basemental.. Only been testing for like 10 minutes,,, testing the devious side of the mod now to see if the roofie stuff works now that I set the sim to sexually awkward, and its awkward to type awkward...
Dev Apophisly
2023-03-02 18:02:27 +0000 UTCThank you! The travel bug was a killer. Are these reward traits, added with the shift-click menu, or did that change at all? I guess I'll find out!
Marvin
2023-03-02 16:49:17 +0000 UTC
