Patreon update starting October
Added 2018-09-18 23:03:14 +0000 UTCHi everyone, Nella here with some news!
TL;DR, we’re switching this Patreon to charging per month starting October.
For Those Still Reading:
Starting October, we’ve decided to change this Patreon from charging patrons per video to charging by the month. One, so no one has to worry about getting charged more than once per month. Personal budgets are hard enough. Two, it gives us a little bit more leeway in terms of finishing projects rather than being slaves to the end of the month deadline. We’re hoping this will be less pressure for everyone involved.
Thank you for all your support so far!
Nella et al.
Comments
I don't have a problem with there not being a video - part of the stated reason for the switch was to get free of monthly deadlines. And I'm happy to be supporting an ongoing process rather than paying each video - it even feels much more like being a patron vs a customer. However, an end-of-month "here's what we're working on" post would be really appreciated in months that there is no new content.
Ken Hall
2018-11-03 11:26:14 +0000 UTCI'm wondering what's going on? It's been almost two months since we heard from anyone here.....more wondering if everything is allright?
Kathleen O'Sullivan-Cook
2018-11-02 13:15:59 +0000 UTCNo new video in October, though? :-(
Nick Ulanowski
2018-11-02 01:06:56 +0000 UTCHey, is it possible to change the monthly amount? I do not want to join the $10 tier, but I would like to double to $4 a month, but I can't find a way to do that...
Björn Lammers
2018-10-22 18:36:15 +0000 UTCWonderful!
2018-10-09 00:36:23 +0000 UTCSo are you the director or something, Nella?
Jonny Seed
2018-10-07 11:22:27 +0000 UTC^^ My question too. I'm happy with monthly billing, just don't want to accidentally drop off.
Stephen B
2018-10-01 09:14:57 +0000 UTCBig supporter of this change!
Paddy O'Furniture
2018-09-25 09:01:15 +0000 UTCSounds good!
Stephen Notley
2018-09-24 17:39:11 +0000 UTC👍🏼
2018-09-24 01:53:15 +0000 UTCSounds good. It seems like it will be more stable income for you folks as well.
Brett
2018-09-23 06:27:37 +0000 UTCQuestion: will the current per-video support automatically become the per-month support?
Klil H. Neori
2018-09-22 19:46:30 +0000 UTCGreat!
Sascha Moros
2018-09-22 13:13:17 +0000 UTCI much prefer monthly billing.
Karim El-Hayawan
2018-09-20 22:53:19 +0000 UTCI was surprised when I became a patron to see the per/video model being used. I've always understood being a patron as supporting the work being done to create, not as a means to pay for the product created. The change makes sense to me and I appreciate the transparency regarding reasons and impacts.
2018-09-20 15:28:02 +0000 UTCHell. I've not liked that this was by video upload. I always like contributing every month to my favorite artists and the per update model always makes me nervous I might not support just because of an unforeseen circumstance.
Maria Luna Celeste
2018-09-19 23:24:52 +0000 UTCNELLA!!!!!! ...that is all I have to say.
Aris Behren
2018-09-19 15:07:50 +0000 UTCSounds good to me too! Thanks!
Joe Lou
2018-09-19 12:38:15 +0000 UTCThank you for letting us know. I'm glad that you are taking care of yourselves.
Haldon Lindstrom
2018-09-19 11:44:06 +0000 UTCLove what you produce and very happy to be able to support it, but I have to say that I'm not happy with this change. Patreon already gives patrons the ability to limit the number of times we are charged per month if we want to, and I for one would happily pay two or even more times in a single month if you were delivering that much finished work. As for putting less pressure on you to meet deadlines, that too seems like a downside from my perspective. Without putting too fine a point on it, we are supporting you to produce work, and if you get that support even when you don't produce work, I feel like you are less accountable to me as a patron. I'm not trying to lead a revolt or anything – I hope you continue to get the support you need to produce the work that I love, but I'm going to lower my support to a minimal level for now as a result of this change. (For what it's worth, I recognise that some other prominent creators on Patreon are making a similar move, Amanda Palmer for one, and I have given those I support the same feedback.)
Kevin Yank
2018-09-19 11:44:03 +0000 UTCThank you! Have an excellent September
2018-09-19 11:20:15 +0000 UTCI'd rather have a predictable charge. I'll probably up my pledge in Oct.
Tom Taylor
2018-09-19 11:03:47 +0000 UTCThank you for the update Nella, and for your work.
Rodrigo V. Perez
2018-09-19 10:31:13 +0000 UTCI'm wondering the same - is our current tier going to become the new monthly pledge, or what?
Eric Lundquist
2018-09-19 07:47:01 +0000 UTCRight on. I'm on board.
Crescent Minor
2018-09-19 03:58:38 +0000 UTCSuits me, everyone else I contribute to is monthly, this just makes it easier to predict how much I'm spending. Take all the time you need to be awesome.
LupinThe8th
2018-09-19 03:55:25 +0000 UTCNice. I'll probably increase my contribution a bit. Take the time necessary to make good things!
CodeTako
2018-09-19 02:20:29 +0000 UTCDo people need to change anything or do we just roll over into the new setup or what? (I'm really lazy and need these things spelled out for me)
Eileen Nguyen
2018-09-19 01:55:57 +0000 UTCSounds great! Hope you all are doing well.
2018-09-19 01:47:15 +0000 UTCI told Chad he should do this, especially with all the trouble he's been having with his grandma.
Jennifer Miller
2018-09-19 01:17:55 +0000 UTCCool!
2018-09-19 01:15:18 +0000 UTCCools, thanks for the update :)
2018-09-19 01:15:09 +0000 UTC<3 Nella No problems here. I'm fine with either method.
imperatorvult
2018-09-19 01:00:24 +0000 UTCI would have stayed patreon either way but this helps a lot! :) Thank you!
2018-09-19 00:13:43 +0000 UTCSounds good. All patreons should be run this way imo.
Freya Northman
2018-09-19 00:08:43 +0000 UTCCurrently on a financial plan that's better off paying per video, but I love Lindsay's videos too much to really argue. The heads-up is more appreciated than you might believe. Keep on keepin' on.
2018-09-19 00:07:16 +0000 UTCI like this change!
Mattie Kenny
2018-09-18 23:38:00 +0000 UTCThank you.
2018-09-18 23:29:57 +0000 UTCI like this change. I'm relatively new and wasn't sure how often videos came out, so signed up at $2/video to not blow up my budget. Now I'll likely up it to the $10/month level knowing that it'll stay constant.
2018-09-18 23:26:47 +0000 UTCI've seen this done before, for similar reasons, and it's generally been a move for the better. Best of luck to all involved!
2018-09-18 23:26:15 +0000 UTCSounds good. It's pros and cons really though. If you ever under-produce one month, you might also find you then feel pressure due to taking people's money without providing what you feel is enough content to justify that. (At least, that's the argument I've heard from some creators.) But it's definitely an individual choice, and if this system works best for you, then that's fine with me.
David W (d20dave) (d_dave)
2018-09-18 23:24:50 +0000 UTCSeems like a good idea when your work takes a lot of time to make :) more than happy to help!
2018-09-18 23:21:14 +0000 UTCI would have been fine with the per video charge, I expected to spend 10-20 per month on my Content de Ellis. But if this encourages enthusiasts who can't spare the dosh to regularly give more, I'm cool with that as well. Nothing worse than feeling like ya have to scramble towards the difference of getting paid and not.
Mister Joshua
2018-09-18 23:21:08 +0000 UTCI changed my pledge from $10 to $2 because of this. That unexpected Beauty and the Beast video hurt the budget I was planning.
Nick Ulanowski
2018-09-18 23:14:21 +0000 UTCThat's great! I honestly have been hoping you guys would do this for a while
Mo Springer
2018-09-18 23:14:12 +0000 UTCKinda surprised y’all weren’t doing this already! No qualms here 🙂
David Loring
2018-09-18 23:13:12 +0000 UTCThis works better for me :) As you say, personal budgets are hard!
2018-09-18 23:12:30 +0000 UTCYay, hi Nella. Fine by me, keep up the good work!
Alex Wright
2018-09-18 23:10:05 +0000 UTCBTW this is very bold move imo.
Callen
2018-09-18 23:09:48 +0000 UTCNo problem here, I would rather have your work not feel rushed.
2018-09-18 23:09:32 +0000 UTCHi Nella! Good to know.
Callen
2018-09-18 23:09:04 +0000 UTCAlright by me. Looking forward to whatever's next in the pipeline.
Stuart Wilke
2018-09-18 23:06:16 +0000 UTCThanks for the update, and for both of your ongoing efforts.
5099 5618
2018-09-18 23:06:01 +0000 UTCA welcome change. Thank you!
2018-09-18 23:04:54 +0000 UTCThat's all right—I prefer monthly payment as a patron as well since it's more reliable, and it's fine if the content doesn't come on a strictly monthly basis anyway. You guys keep rocking <3
TalysAlankil
2018-09-18 23:04:48 +0000 UTC