My Monster Boyfriend
Added 2018-03-01 04:38:29 +0000 UTC
This ended up being a way more expansive topic than I realized, so rather than doing something comprehensive I end up touching on a lot of subjects that deserve way more time than I can give here.
Also I love how not here for this Kong is in the thumbnail.
There's a Spanish performer, Alaska, who is the very embodiment of this trope. Even if you don't speak Spanish, I think you'll be able to get the idea from the imagery.
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s82sL-oZGk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s82sL-oZGk</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yinR3tV_eU" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yinR3tV_eU</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rMr83RdYMo" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rMr83RdYMo</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH_SL5aDN14" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH_SL5aDN14</a>
Dab Brill
2018-03-04 18:34:46 +0000 UTC
Lindsay, great video! I thought the tying birth of the nation to monster movies was great, and your Blazing Saddles clip usage was hilarious!
Secondary question, will we ever get to read your novel-length starscream fanfic? WIll this be a patreon perk?
Gabe
2018-03-03 19:26:07 +0000 UTC
I actually recommended that Film to her, when she askes about Fiction regarding that Subject. Still kinda sad she didn't use that. La Bete is on of my favorites, of the really weird French Things of the 70's.
Trahbox
2018-03-03 16:47:15 +0000 UTC
This comment may expose me to scorn and contempt, but while watching your video, I couldn't help but be reminded of Walerian Borowczyk's 1975 film La Bête. Borowczyk dives right into the inherent sexuality in the traditional Beauty and the Beast narrative, thus making his "erotic" fantasy an interesting addition to this genre.
2018-03-03 07:35:56 +0000 UTC
Absolutely pleased as punch with the video - as I am with all of your work. I kept waiting for commentary on Twilight (coming so close to your Stephanie Meyer piece, I figured the monster love triangle would be brought up here) and then, as the Beauty and the Beast versions kept coming, I wondered if the Angela Carter revisions of the story would be discussed. Maybe in a future episode.
2018-03-02 21:56:49 +0000 UTC
George R. R. Martin who created the Game of Thrones universe.
Fabrisse ter Brugghe
2018-03-02 17:16:01 +0000 UTC
It's on Amazon Prime! That's where we captured it from.
Lindsay Ellis
2018-03-02 17:13:02 +0000 UTC
Also, this was a really great video.
Fabrisse ter Brugghe
2018-03-02 17:11:51 +0000 UTC
Loved the use of "Dream Lover." The 80s Beauty and the Beast was the first time I participated in a write-in "save our show" campaign. I loved it, especially the underworld. It turned the whole thing on its head not just with Vincent being cultured and sexy, but by having the character of Elliot Burch transform from a Donald Trumpish developer into someone who risks his life to do the right thing because he's been transformed by love. Must go home and rewatch.
Fabrisse ter Brugghe
2018-03-02 17:11:17 +0000 UTC
I wish there were more videos coming out per month. But I totally get the directed effort into your video craft.
Just a notice, I saw that the Patreon logo at the end of the video was blocking a lot of the Patrons rewarded with a mention. Not sure if that's the most sensible place to put that clickable sticker.
Callen
2018-03-02 07:37:25 +0000 UTC
Amazing video as always
2018-03-02 01:09:13 +0000 UTC
Funny coincidence... You're our first subscription on Patreon, and this was the first video since subscribing. I've really enjoyed your content, as has my ninth grade daughter. Recently we were discussing one of your videos, and she suggested we support you. So, unbeknownst to her, I subscribed in her name. I thought it would be cute for her to find out she was a Patron by seeing her name at the end of your video. As it happens, the past two weeks she's been studying Mary Shelley's Frankenstein in her Language Arts class. Way to deliver!
2018-03-02 00:38:25 +0000 UTC
I did not recognize the photo of the writer of the Linda Hamilton B&B. I assume this marks me as totally out of the loop. Still, it might be helpful to have a caption for the similarly un-hip.
Frances Webb
2018-03-02 00:18:58 +0000 UTC
I remember that old Beauty and the Beast TV series with the manimal beast (well, sorta). Thanks for the nostalgia trip!
CaitSeith
2018-03-01 23:21:28 +0000 UTC
This was amazing :D
Quick question: shouldn't there be a link to the guest channel on the description?
SulaMoon
2018-03-01 20:30:33 +0000 UTC
TROT CUTELY and PROVE LOVE
Robert Miles
2018-03-01 18:48:20 +0000 UTC
Didn't know I needed this video essay in my life till I saw it, but thank you for doing this topic! I've always been fascinated with Beauty and the Beast stories in culture, so much so that I wrote my own novel about it, so it was really great to see the historical breakdown and inherent coding - keep it up girl!
2018-03-01 17:34:10 +0000 UTC
Parallel rule to Chekhov's Gun, Ellis' Starscream - if you show a Starscream figurine in the background, you have to reference Starscream by the end
2018-03-01 16:30:47 +0000 UTC
I was always disappointed as a kid when the Beast transformed into the prince. Oh no, not a BOY, yuck. Then i discovered growing up i was not the only one.
very interesting to learn about the history of monster-young women relations in fiction and how it relates to forced marriage. If expanded, I think there is also an interesting bridge in the recurrence in fiction of the young woman and Death - maybe the power and tragedy of submission to the unbreachable Otherness.
Amelie Marandet
2018-03-01 16:26:06 +0000 UTC
Interesting to note that two of those examples are basically author avatars (especially Brian).
Lindsay Ellis
2018-03-01 16:23:28 +0000 UTC
I want to write a really well thought out comment, but every time the video cuts back to Lindsay I get distracted the fabulous Starscream figure in the background.
LL
2018-03-01 16:15:22 +0000 UTC
While I was watching this, I was thinking about stuff like Family Guy, We Bare Bears and Howard the Duck that feature human/antro animal romance. Why is it so prevelent in media? Why is it mostly confined to male animals to human women? Why do the worlds they inhabit condone this sort of beastiality?
Matt Eldritch
2018-03-01 15:47:40 +0000 UTC
I'll save it until after Saturday, then (assuming that Storm Emma does not bury me).
Matthew Dunne
2018-03-01 15:41:05 +0000 UTC
It is an open secret that the Creature from the Black Lagoon is a favorite of the ladies in the monster fan community. It could be in part that the Gill-man was designed by a lady, Milicent Patrick.
Mister CPU
2018-03-01 15:03:19 +0000 UTC
Massive spoilers! Be warned!!
SurgeryHead
2018-03-01 14:43:45 +0000 UTC
Massive spoilers in the first few seconds DO NOT WATCH
SurgeryHead
2018-03-01 14:43:13 +0000 UTC
Hmm, I want to watch this, but... does it have spoilers for The Shape of Water?
Matthew Dunne
2018-03-01 14:19:34 +0000 UTC
I feel like Martin had a LOT of help writing Beauty and the Beast.
Jennifer Miller
2018-03-01 12:22:56 +0000 UTC
I see Starscream is here for this too
Tim Davis
2018-03-01 11:48:37 +0000 UTC
Great video Lindsay. The Clash of the Titans footage was a fantastic choice.
Josh Clark
2018-03-01 11:04:47 +0000 UTC
[pauses at 16:58]
[falls over]
2018-03-01 10:36:11 +0000 UTC
My first Patreon post from you. I'm so excited 😄
Allan Jensen
2018-03-01 08:44:06 +0000 UTC
I’m not gonna lie, the fish man does it for me. And so does Sidon from Breath of the Wild and Kit Fisto from Star Wars. Funny enough, never been big into Aquaman 😆
Koda Fiction
2018-03-01 08:39:29 +0000 UTC
A video on monster loving is what finally got me to subscribe on Patreon
2018-03-01 08:06:33 +0000 UTC
I remember leaving the theater with tons of people being gross out her having sex with the fishman and making the theme more honest and poignant.
Bardcraft
2018-03-01 07:34:32 +0000 UTC
True fax: he actually reached out to me, and I haaaaaappened to be planning a video on the same topic!
Lindsay Ellis
2018-03-01 07:03:08 +0000 UTC
AHHH HOLY SHIT!!! I"M SO PLEASED YOU GOT LA'RON REDUS! So pleased I got to introduce you to his channel <3 <3 Great vid!
Clare (Agrippina) Belshaw
2018-03-01 07:01:45 +0000 UTC
No, this was from an awards screener DVD from a nameless source *shushface*
Lindsay Ellis
2018-03-01 06:55:00 +0000 UTC
Liked and favorited, as always. A lot of information I wasn't aware of and a fascinating topic. I'm curious, though, how did you get so much footage of The Shape of Water? The footage you're using is definitely from the full film and not trailers, did it come out on Blu-ray/digital and I missed it?
Stuart Wilke
2018-03-01 06:53:38 +0000 UTC
Videos like this are what really make me miss university. Excellent as always!
2018-03-01 06:38:33 +0000 UTC
Me: Mention GRRM, mention GRRM...
*pic and music*
YES!
Rebel Girl
2018-03-01 05:45:20 +0000 UTC
Extraordinary work. I'd love to hear you expand on that "[white] woman as embodiment of status quo" idea. I'm sure there's gender work on trappings of the private sphere and therefore women as vessels for a culture's expectations, aspirations, and self-judgments.
~A Jealous Bitch
Ugino
2018-03-01 05:43:49 +0000 UTC
This was super great!
Noclip
2018-03-01 05:32:16 +0000 UTC
Wait, so does this mean The Babadook really is an LGBT character?
2018-03-01 05:28:16 +0000 UTC
I was in the middle of writing, but Lindsay beckoned.
2018-03-01 05:15:55 +0000 UTC
I love that Chuck Tingle is mainstream romance now. LOVE IS REAL!
Reuben
2018-03-01 05:15:14 +0000 UTC
This is honestly all I've ever wanted. Bring the wine
2018-03-01 05:13:10 +0000 UTC
shape of water is probably the first of this genre to actually show the girl fucking her monster boyfriend though.
2018-03-01 04:39:57 +0000 UTC