True Volumetric clouds Release 2

Wrong post, but yeah

Shiv Mungra

For supersampling - do I use F2 to take the screenshot? Or do I take a screenshot while the UI is hidden.

Shiv Mungra

There is a separate mod for that, look for "CPWE - Configurable Planetary Wind Effects"

Blackrack

Hey! Great mod! Is it possible to have wind affecting the trajectory?

Eduardo Araripe

The easiest way is really to timewarp until they appear (this is better on releases 3-4 btw, not sure why you are commenting on release 2).

Blackrack

howdy, I don't mean to be "that guy", but how do I turn on the rainstorms?

robert

Afaik someone made a volumetric jnsq config, I can't comment on the quality as I haven't tested it. I'll try to find it and link it.

Blackrack

Kcalbeloh has volumetric configs (on kcalbeloh's discord iirc). Sorry for late response, I got the notification but didn't see the comment because it was on an older version.

Blackrack

Does this work with jnsq or is there a config I’d have to download?

Lachlan Thorne

what happens to the clouds on other planets? like with the kcalbeloh mod

rtyyy yb

Good point, also I realise there aren’t any videos showcasing things like Jool’s or eve’s atmosphere so I’m thinking of filling that gap.

Mofigogamerboy

Make sure you install a physical warp mod (like hyperwarp) because the descent is super slow

Blackrack

… I’m intrigued, time to skip school and design the ultimate probe 🥶🥶💀😎👀👀

Mofigogamerboy

You can go to -75km and there is some hidden layers to explore in there

Blackrack

Question, how deep can you go into jool now, because I tried to send a probe down there and it got crushed from the pressure at -2250m (I have other mods that add that sort of realism)

Mofigogamerboy

I figured out what happened. It was related to parallax causing the error.

NovaRaptorTV

I tried following the instructions for that, and I was stuck on the loading screen where the planets kept orbiting the star

NovaRaptorTV

Go to version 3 man, there is a patched version for ksrss there

Blackrack

Is this version 2? I'm trying to get the clouds for KSRSS.

NovaRaptorTV

You can use the spectra volumetrics config (search it up, not on ckan) which just removes the 2d clouds and still leaves the auroras

Karma

How do I add Auroras? But overall, the volumetrics look awesome!

Nelson J Padamadan

It's probably throwing an error or breaking something, check logs when it happens

Blackrack

Was it before the clouds appear?

Blackrack

I notice a huge frame drop in the start screen, no problem at all once in game. VRAM usage reduction is very appreciable

AtmosphericBeats

Hi, so I'm currently working on a config but i'm encountering a weird issue I never had before, when I press *Apply* in the In-game editor the clouds of the object i'm editing completely disappears and even when I cancel my change it stays like this, only way to fix this is restarting the game after every changes. Any ideas?

ProximaCentauri

Is there an ETA for public release?

Keko Gecko

Well i had hopes for it but thanks for the anwser, also personally i run 3.5x because 10x is just too big for me and i like keeping things stock(-ish). But again thanks for the anwser and cheers

Joy'u

Yeah making them is hard, you need to make new high-res maps and tune them just right for the scale, then tune the settings. Easiest is probably to use one of the RSS configs for rescale (assuming 10x rescale).

Blackrack

Sorry for another "help it's not quite working" comment but firstly i just wanted to thank you for this mod, it's honestly phenomenal and when i got it working and started flying a plane around i was amazed, it felt like I was playing KSP for the first time again. But on with my issue, I noticed that using rescale made the clouds look kind off weird(i hope you know what i mean here, because i just cant quite find a word to describe it, but i can send a screenshot if need be) also i found a older comment asking about rescale too and you mentioned tailored maps and configs in it. So i am just wondering if making them would be something hard or would it be possible for a person like me who can do basic editing of configs. But again thanks for this mod, i love it.

Joy'u

This week-end or beginning of next week. It's going to be mostly technical and incremental improvements: Lower ram and vram usage, better upscaling, less flickering and graininess from orbit, cockpit droplets, ozone layer support, some bug and artifact fixes, more frequent rain.

Blackrack

when do we get a new update?

deimos_19

Yes

Blackrack

Intentional, they come and go like the dust storms

Blackrack

I’ve noticed there is occasionally clouds on duna, is this a bug or intentional?

Soidinoy

is this compatable with Kopernicus?

Clay Hester

You can

Blackrack

Can I use the performance heavy config with the RSS configs?

Theomegaperson

I had to hit the "apply" button on the ingame EVE settings to make things work, otherwise clouds didn't showed up (Did work with EVO, can't remember if that worked too with RSSVE) Since then, everything's fine I hope that'll work for you too

N y x i l o

The two old-Ish ones. I couldn’t find out how to get ballistic foxes installed. Whenever I run the game with them there’s just zero clouds. And no water with evo. Which may or may not have killed a kerbal.

Which one did you try?

Blackrack

Sadly the RSS Configs are not working for me :(

Thanks, will try this. Awesome mod btw. The transition when your vessel bursts through the cloud into the upper atmosphere is 🤌

George C.

There is also RSS-Reborn if you want to test it: https://gitlab.com/ballisticfox/RSS-Reborn read about it here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/volumetric-and-84435214

Blackrack

Do you mean the square artifacts or the general shapes of clouds? For the square artifacts reduce temporal upscaling: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Temporal-upscaling-and-noise-detiling#temporal-upscaling

Blackrack

Thanks for your help. I got it working. However, the volumetric clouds looks a little boxy? Is there any setting I can tweak to make it higher quality? i.imgur.com/fpofaaU.png

George C.

Normally yes, but if it doesn't work try to use release 1 with those.

Blackrack

Thanks. Turns out my RP1 install was faulty. I am reinstalling now. This still works with BananaMans config right?

George C.

How much system RAM? Monitor the memory usage when the game is starting and when it crashes

Blackrack

Oh.. I have an RTX 3060, is that enough to run this mod?

George C.

It does work, you're probably running out of memory or of the disk swap thing.

Blackrack

Does this work with RSS? I tried following the install instructions, but my game keeps crashing at the end (when it says "loading expansions"). It only crashes after I installed this. I have KSP-RP1 express installed

George C.

Alright. Thanks!

Rockets Are Awesome!

Sadly I've already set it at the level where it looks good and runs optimally. Try setting temporal upscaling to 16x but it will get blurrier, see here how: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Temporal-upscaling-and-noise-detiling#temporal-upscaling

Blackrack

I'm not entirely sure yet. The mod runs fine on my PC but I would love to increase performance if possible. Any setting that would have a big impact on performance while having a low impact on the visuals would be great.

Rockets Are Awesome!

What do you want to change? There's a lot of settings

Blackrack

Is there any way to change the graphical settings of the volumetric clouds?

Rockets Are Awesome!

You mean clouds moving from one altitude to another seamlessly? No it can't be done right now with this system. Could be done one but sounds quite complicated and I want to work on other things first.

Blackrack

Sorry, I meant if you planned to make the clouds vary in altitude as allowed to having 2 bound layers

Jacob Sell

Not sure what you mean, they already are

Blackrack

Do you plan to make the clouds variable with altitude and size?

Jacob Sell

alr thanks

- Duxx -

On Jool it's always stormy. On Kerbin just timewarp for a while since it's not super frequent right now. Next version will make it more frequent.

Blackrack

i might be missing something, but how do you get it to storm on kerbin or jool?

- Duxx -

Don't know what causes it yet

Blackrack

is there any way to fix the bug where the atmosphere sort of detaches from the planet when changing fov in iva?

deimos_19

You can reduce temporal upscaling, but it will be more performance demanding. See here: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Temporal-upscaling-and-noise-detiling#temporal-upscaling

Blackrack

Is there anything planned to be done about the clouds looking a little blurry in timewarp?

Theomegaperson

No worries

Blackrack

Oh sorry for asking

Soidinoy

There's already storms though some more will be added. Tornadoes look a little weird last I tried them, there are already some dust devils on duna though.

Blackrack

There is regular clouds on Laythe

Blackrack

Do you plan to add volumetric clouds to laythe? (As far as I know there is only the volcano clouds?)

Soidinoy

will there be storms and tornadoes in the mod ?

Adil Bentamouch

The KSRSS and RSS configs are perfect

[Insert name here}

Just absolutely great work

Cameron Hansen

👍👍

Moods Moodd

It is planned

Blackrack

would be sweet if vc had aroura borealises (boreali?)

Rejinod

Same here!

Raikkappa23

I made a configuration for RVE2.0 to support volumetric clouds, referenced the assets of EVO and RSSVE, fixed the failure of RVE2.0 water body reflection, transplanted part of the code of @jrodrigv for EVO, and fully optimized it. Make RVE2.0 the unique high-quality volumetric cloud effect in RSS at present. And fix the city lighting problem of RVE2.0, and increase the resolution of all assets to 64K. Still waiting for the author's inquiry request to satisfy the redistribution agreement

STAR KSP

Hence the grain of salt

Blackrack

But you said dat 2 weeks ago :(

Obama Prism

recently i play with avp + volumetrics clouds 2 ... it s work well

Moods Moodd

Soon (tm) In all seriousness I'm aiming to have the cockpit droplets + load on demand + some weather and config improvements out in 1-2 weeks, but take it with a grain of salt in case things don't go as planned.

Blackrack

and the release date ?! :D

Moods Moodd

fixed. thanks!

Eridani System

You'll have to delete the old files then drag the new ones in and that's it! Deleting the old files will be important for the next update to reduce memory usage

Blackrack

Hyped for the next update! When it releases, is updating as simple as dragging files into the gamedata folder?

Obama Prism

still cannot comprehend how a mod made on a 12 year old game can do better than a full game studio on a sequel of one of the most succesfull space game. Impressive man, keep up the good work !

LoutreSaphir

Start over with the install and make sure you also only use the scatterer included in the download, you probably have an external/old version of scatterer.

Blackrack

When I load the KSC overview scene, i get a spam of these two errors, and the volumetric clouds aren't there at all: [EXC 16:49:31.846] ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null. Parameter name: shader UnityEngine.Material..ctor (UnityEngine.Shader shader) (at <12e76cd50cc64cf19e759e981cb725af>:0) Atmosphere.DeferredRaymarchedVolumetricCloudsRenderer.Initialize () (at :0) Atmosphere.DeferredRaymarchedVolumetricCloudsRenderer.OnPostRender () (at :0) UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object) ModuleManager.UnityLogHandle.InterceptLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object) UnityEngine.Debug:CallOverridenDebugHandler(Exception, Object) [LOG 16:49:31.861] [EVE] Could not find shader EVE/ReconstructRaymarchedClouds I've tried reinstalling both EVE and StockVolumetricClouds from the .zip file i got from the github, but still get this problem. The clouds are, however, visible in the ScaledSpace version of kerbin

Eridani System

Afaik no one has made OPM configs

Blackrack

Is there OPM configs available?

AstroEvada

Thank you! I'll try that tonight when I get home

Kevin Sean Dempsey

Parallax 2, TUFX with a custom profile (the popular ones are ballisticFox and invaderchaos iirc), waterfall

Blackrack

What are the best graphics mods to add that are compatible with this?

Soidinoy

The real issue here is not that it's too hazy, it's that the terrain is too dark and will get easily covered up by the atmosphere, I don't have a good fix for that. If you still want to reduce the atmospheric haze, keep in mind that this will affect how the whole atmosphere looks, and it will look a lot less nice from the ground and when flying around clouds. Press ctrl+alt+f11 in flight to bring up the scatterer menu, find the rayleigh settings where it says "thicken", set a value lower than 1 like maybe 0.9, press GO multiple times until you're happy with how thin it is then save.

Blackrack

Are you looking at the big ones or the diffuse ones? I suspect you are looking at the diffuse ones since the big ones are quite dark inside. With that said the big ones are designed to have a thick front then kinda thin out. There's not a single setting though, you'll have to dive in and edit the density setting or curves for multiple cloud types. See here: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Raymarched-cloud-configuration#cloudtypes

Blackrack

Is there a setting that changes the intensity of Duna dust storms? They're probably my favourite part of the mod, however I don't think that they are as strong, as loud, as dense and as dark inside them as I would expect.

qwerty

Do you happen to know what settings I need to change to make Kerbin a little less hazy from space? I'd like to be able to differentiate between the water and land masses more easily. This might not be your stuff at all that adds the haze, and if it's not, I'm sorry for asking. It's just that you know about these things way more than I do. I'm using Planet Shine and E.V.E. as well as Scatterer. I don't think I have any other mods that would affect the blue haze. Here's a screenshot of my Kerbin from space... https://drive.google.com/open?id=19VihGln8J2QYy49XLRhAAdo6CQcr2TtL&usp=drive_fs

Kevin Sean Dempsey

Yeah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irQPTVVGefk&ab_channel=blackrack

Blackrack

are you planning to add hurricanes?

Rejinod

I think you just install Stock volumetric clouds, install EVO, then install the provided RSS config

Blackrack

No I'm not interested in working on planetary rings at the moment.

Blackrack

what about from far away? but close enough that a 2d image isnt sufficient? also will you add at least limited support for these in any way? like a cloud layer ridiculously high

Monkey Wrench

No not something I want to do. Imo planetary rings aew better done with instanced rendering and LOTS of tiny rocks than volumetrics.

Blackrack

are you planning on allowing volumetrics for planetary rings?

Monkey Wrench

this is kinda a dumb question but how do i install this with the EVO config with RSS?

Brian

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yJzCD5rBuLWgJcSe12EMfBZBAhJIwJjD/view?usp=drive_link Here is the log. Some more info: Clouds (but not atmospheric scatter nor sunflare) load in in the map view. However in the flight view nothing loads in at all, not even the clouds. There are also no scatterer logs. I have also tried installing and reinstalling all of the mods. Edit: I have reinstalled it again and it seems to work. Seems like a install error on my behalf. Thank you too for helping me as well as making arguably the best mod in KSP at the moment.

qwerty

Upload your KSP.log file to google drive and make it public then send me the link and I'll check it out, it will be in your KSP directory.

Blackrack

I moved the scatterer file that was included in the raymarchedvolumetrics file into my gamedata folder yet the atmosphere scattering effects do not load for me, as if there were no config. The volumetric clouds do load however. Edit: It is fixed now

qwerty

Parallax 2 for sure, TUFX with one of the popular configs (BallisticFox's, invaderchaos or others)

Blackrack

This is kindof a random question, but what graphical mods do you think work well with the volumetric clouds mod? I'm trying to make my game look as nice as possible.

Obama Prism

That happens if you were using a lot of layers of the old volumetrics especially with cubemaps, they scale badly

Blackrack

Somehow I gained 15 fps with this mod what

Rejinod

ok and thank you for those links, I haven`t found those features before

Dragonking

This is intentional and the projection accounts for it, this is just how I painted the cloud maps or how the cloud map base I exported from Nasa are. When I add aurora I can lighten them up as much as I want so that's not an issue. In the meantime you can lighten the poles up yourself using the painter or by modifying the coverage maps if that's what you prefer: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/In-game-Cloud-Painter https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Raymarched-Clouds-Overview#coverage-map I'm in the process of lightening up the cover on Laythe's poles because that's the best spot to observe Jool, but other than that I don't consider it an issue for the other bodies.

Blackrack

I have noticed a small problem with the cloud patterns. The poles on every (atmospheric) world are covered entirely with a nearly fully solid cloud cover with only a few small holes. This makes the poles very badly lit, everything looks sort of grey-ish. Part of it is probably because KSP bodies dont seem to have axial tilt but ive seen some videos where the poles were well-lit. And when Aurorae will be implemented you will never be able to actually see them from the surface with this. Im guessing this is unintentional and caused by the cloud patterns being made on a map projection which then gets squished together at the poles on the actual planet? I think changing this would improve the poles a lot, with the current lighting they dont look very good.

Dragonking

For the flickering issue, disable TUFX Temporal antialiasing

Blackrack

Sorry I only just saw this comment, I'm currently fixing the sunflare bug and it will be fixed in the next version. For the other issue with planets in the video, it looks like it's due to the planet's scale exceeding the far clip plane of the local camera, whoever maintains those configs needs to make the planets transition to scaled space mode before that issue appears.

Blackrack

no

Keko Gecko

When MSFS2020 was launched, I didn't expect to be able to have something that looks similar in KSP. Well, I'm glad your mod and awesome work have proven me wrong ^^ Can't wait to see what's next !

N y x i l o

It does, at the cost of quality

Blackrack

Yeah. M1s have their own proprietary ARM GPU and CPU. Does increasing temporal upscaling increase FPS?

etzabo

From what is said online it is equivalent in performance to a gtx 1650, that should in general still get a good fps at 1080p. Which resolution do you use? If you use a higher resolution consider increasing the temporal upscaling setting, see here: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Temporal-upscaling-and-noise-detiling

Blackrack

Not really, any AVP configs left will not be volumetric but 2d, and their look will clash with the volumetric ones. So yes I recommend deleting them.

Blackrack

What GPU does it have and which fps are you getting now?

Blackrack

How can I maintain a high FPS on a first gen M1 Mac with this?

etzabo

is it possible to play with volumetric clouds and avp ? in what order must be install plz ? you say in instruction to erase config file... but we can use mod ?

Moods Moodd

That's true but I like to see some life down there when I am in orbit at night. And what about northern light? Thanks for your reply. Your mod is awesome!

Denis Chovaniak

I don't like how the city lights look (quite 2d) so I don't include a config for them, however you can put them back from the old default config or AVP. Redownload boulderCo, delete everything in there apart from the city lights config and textures and that should do it.

Blackrack

I detail the configs and how to use them in the wiki, it's quite a lot though, you can use the included configs as examples: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Raymarched-Clouds-Overview

Blackrack

I have a question, is it possible to make custom volumetric cloud configs for planet packs like Outer planets? If so, how do I do it?

MrShonkk

Hi, are there city lights?

Denis Chovaniak

Did you found a solution ?

Liam

That looks incredible! Will the particles change as you move around?

Obama Prism

Apologies for the late reply: it's just that I recently figured out shipbuilding in KSP and I came to realize that (a) having wave physics adds depth to ship design that isn't there with flat water, so that was kind of the thing I wanted to work with, and (b) it seems that stock KSP water physics are even more intense, to the extent that large vessels simply break up when dropped into the water via VesselMover. Needless to say, I only asked about this because I initially thought the fix would be a bit more trivial than it seems. I don't want to impede any further progress with this mod, and this issue isn't game breaking, so I won't be bringing it up again. Thank you for the help, and stellar work on the mod.

Matthew Lysenko

For KSRSS there are install instructions here: https://github.com/atmosphericbeats/atmosphericbeats_eveconfig_ksrss/releases/tag/v1.1 Planetshine is compatible as far as I know

Blackrack

It's still a wip but here's how it looks currently: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717082994657067090/1132379111499771994/Desktop_2023.07.22_-_20.20.45.01-1.mp4

Blackrack

Hello , Ksrss scale 1 eve and parrallax are they compatible ? in what order install them thx. Since have install eve "patreon" have withdraw scatterer and spectra . that's what needed to be done ? planetshine brings somethings

Moods Moodd

Within 1-2 weeks or so, but take it with a grain of salt in case it doesn't go as planned.

Blackrack

Perhaps adding more memory can also slow down the occurrence of this problem. May I ask, when will the next version be updated?

Aebestach Z

If you already downloaded the latest fixed version which fixes crashes, then I'm guessing it's your memory. Next version will reduce memory usage but other than that not sure what else you can do.

Blackrack

Hi, blackrack, when I use the main mods such as RSS, RO, and Principia, it significantly increases the chance of crashing. However, crashes rarely occur when volumetric clouds are not installed.

Aebestach Z

Sorry man I didn't realize your subscription expired, you don't have to renew it to ask me a question, I will refund you. For the RAM/VRAM usage reductions it's basically finished, I'm going to try and finish a few other things and release them together. You just want to disable them temporarily or something? Or you want to remove them from a planet? Not sure what you're trying to do.

Blackrack

What's up, i'm the guy from discord, my question is how can I disable the volumetric clouds in-game without remoing the mod? Also you talked about a new update that will reduce VRAM usage, how's that going?

Alp Tuna Şahin

For now you can edit the time settings of layers weather1 and weather2 but it's not super simple (you'll then have to copy the same settings for snow1 and snow2 they are synced). You have to make sure activation times for the 2 layers don't overlap though or you'll have issues. Check here how to do it: github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Time-settings For the clouds you'll have to edit the coverage maps in photoshop, see here what the coverageMap does: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Raymarched-Clouds-Overview#coverage-map

Blackrack

Why don't you just disable it as suggested? Everything will work as stock.

Blackrack

So after following these instructions, I have found out the following: 1. Copying the old config into the provided Scatterer doesn't seem to work. 2. Deleting the provided Scatterer and replacing with CKAN-installed default Scatterer removes the clouds, and also doesn't work. It seems the issue is either something to do with EVE Volumetric itself (I have no idea how that can be), or the game's physics simulation granularity somehow changes with increased cpu/gpu load, and this is somehow causing drastically increased water drag. Nevertheless, thank you for your help.

Matthew Lysenko

That might be what is messing up the water on "Habital Gilly" mod... as the wind speed is insane for such a tiny moon and the ocean has gone crazy.

PicoSpace Industries

is there any way to increase the frequency of lightning storm and rain and decrease the amount of clouds because kerbin is mainly clouds

Uhb0t

Thank you. You can disable them, open scatterer menu (ctrl +f-11) in KSC menu, look for customize options -> ocean -> wave interactions. Or you can just reduce the wind speed (from the UI in flight, ocean tab) or you can just reuse the ocean config from avp if you like that.

Blackrack

Hello. I have signed in to this Patreon, as unlike some people in the forums I believe you do deserve reward for this incredible work and I of course wanted the volumetric clouds. That works fine, no problems here. However, upon transitioning from Astronomer's Visual Pack + EVE Redux to this version of EVE Redux, I have noticed that there is a significant difference with the water physics that renders it far more difficult to construct viable boats with electric propellers. The issue is that this isn't a bug, this is some sort of design decision that affects these physics. Whereas with AVP + EVE Redux, propellers were structurally stable to an extent, with volumetric EVE they are prone to tearing themselves apart and boats travel significantly slower, indicating some sort of altered drag. I have observed the files in AVP (the most obvious difference) and see nothing that can alter the water physics. In the config file for the variant of Scatterer installed with volumetric EVE, I have found the following line, which is different from the config file of "normal" Scatterer: buoyancyWaterDragScalarEndOverride = 0.0500000007 An additional drag constant - deleting this line seemed to do nothing. I understand that this would be an extremely low-priority issue (if it is even an issue), but I would like to ask if there is anything known about what causes this behaviour.

Matthew Lysenko

thanks a lot ♥

yi tong

Sounds great! Looking forward to it.

Obama Prism

In the current version it's not too frequent (will be more frequent in next version). For now you can just timewarp until it starts raining.

Blackrack

I'm working on rain droplets on cockpits, load on demand, more frequent weather, weather on Laythe and Eve. I'm going to try and release everything together.

Blackrack

Will that fix include anything else?

Obama Prism

Yep, I was using the HQ config

Obama Prism

sorry for asking, why i never meet rain, snow and thunder？

yi tong

No mod, just the setting I was telling you about

Blackrack

If you find the solution i would be happy to know what mod cause the problem 🙏

Liam

I saw that this is caused by setting temporal upscaling lower than 4x in the newest release, I think I know why, I'll have a fix out soon. If you're getting this probably you used the HQ config which sets the upscaling to 2x?

Blackrack

I cloned my KSP instance and removed all my mods except yours and everything worked fine. There must be some sort of conflict with one of my mods. I'll go through one by one and see which one is causing the issue.

Obama Prism

I'm having a weird issue where the clouds have lines that pop in and out every second or so. It goes from being normal to having lines Here is what the 'lines' look like: https://imgur.com/a/IH3drtW I'm using TUFX without any anti-aliasing, planetshine, parallax, Shaddy, Shabby, some IVA mods, and textures unlimited.

Obama Prism

Hey I think I'm having some problems with Scatterer? In the tracking station and in the map view the sun flare behaves weirdly and in the map view the planets kinda flicker but im not sure if that's related to Scatterer. But most importantly while in flight the atmospheres of bodies don't align with the objects themselves and kinda follow the camera when zooming in and out with the ALT + scroll FOV change. This seems to only happen when the camera is above a certain height and only after going into the map view and back out. I made a video to show what I'm talking about since it's kinda hard to explain: https://youtu.be/-23ygdNGEl0 Here's my log file: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126321817691365489/1130706075251900436/KSP.log

Keko Gecko

Thank you kind sir

Blackrack

This is mind-bogglingly stunning. I thought you were a genius before. You have reached god status in my book m'lord.

Ray Jules

Yes, in GameData though. You should notice the effect in-game with the framerate going down.

Blackrack

Hello there, I am wondering? Is it enough to just dump the "Performance-heavy config" into Game Files and Module Manager will take care of the rest?

Ray Jules

Okay, well, I'll do that when I get home tonight. I thought I took care of that stuff, but I guess not. Thanks!

Kevin Sean Dempsey

You didn't delete what looks like BoulderCo, Spectra or astronomers, it looks very odd

Blackrack

I guess I don't know what you're asking. I thought I installed everything correctly

Kevin Sean Dempsey

Looks like that fixed it, thanks a lot!

Alex Yedidia

In the .cfg file for the TUFX profile you're using, there should be a TemporalAntiaAliasing entry you can delete. I don't know which profile you're using but the default profiles are under TUFX/Profiles, if you installed a custom profile though you'll have to look there.

Blackrack

Thank you for the quick responses. I understand the second part of what you said, but where do I disable TUFX TAA? Also my bad, it should be public now

Alex Yedidia

Oh btw your log file isn't public, if you can make it public I'll look at it later

Blackrack

If it flickers it's likely TUFX TAA (temporal antialiasing). Disable that from TUFX. Then to be able to re-enable the one from Scatterer you need to delete a setting in the default config of TUFX, go to /TUFX/TexturesUnlimited.cfg and delete the part that says @scatterer_config

Blackrack

It flickers, here is a link to my log file. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SCdyW8ckqxcw5MaWsbtSv5qFa2N6Ix3L/view?usp=sharing Looks like I didn't reply, oops.

Alex Yedidia

Does this flicker or it's always like that? Can you post your KSP.log file?

Blackrack

Hello, I've just downloaded this and love what I've seen so far. 2 things though that I could use some help on, when I go to the map, kerbin appears to be half dark and half light, and glitches between them. (See link) I also only get 10 fps, although this could just be that I'm running RP-1 along with it. Thanks! https://imgur.com/a/u80hjXD

Alex Yedidia

That's really cool. It looks like it simulates the individual particles. Looking forward to what you come up with! I'd imagine the engine won't be too cooperative with what you are trying to do.

Obama Prism

I don't want to set expectations because I'm still not happy with the effect I have, but I really like how it's done in drive club (at 5.37 here) : https://youtu.be/Fx6tsEBzB7U&t=5m37s

Blackrack

What will the droplets on the cockpit end up looking like? Any similar games or references you can point towards? Really looking forward to that feature, sounds super cool.

Obama Prism

Boy, you're fast, thanks

Havelocke_PoCI

Nope, Spectra would have to update for it

Blackrack

Does this mod work with any other configs like spectra?

Havelocke_PoCI

Does this mod work with other configs such as Spectra at all?

Havelocke_PoCI

Fair, unity issues. at the moment KSP flags do support partial transparency, not only alpha cutoff. This is used by multiple people for cockpits etc, hence removing that would break crafts. not a good bugfix. Thankfully them not receiving shadows is not a major issue as it is near invisible in well lit environments. There may be a mid solution though: don't make the flag images themselves cast shadows, but if a flag part variant is selected that is solid, aka a thin or panel flag, all except the transparent background, they can receive and cast shadows. They are always non-transparent after all. Like this flags used structurally with an empty image on top of them would receive shadows properly.

H Cat

If you want the flags to support transparency btw they can't support shadows, it's one or the other

Blackrack

Another issue I was reminded of with the flags. They don't receive shadows at all. see here: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772485444570316831/1129406026337235024/screenshot1302.png the fairing is in shadow, but the flags are not. looks a bit odd sometimes while flying, though it is less obvious than the other issues. Further investigation shows that they indeed receive no shadows at all, neither from the craft itself, nor from static buildings. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772485444570316831/1129407616527913001/screenshot1304.png Neither the VAB nor the fairing is making the wings less bright.

H Cat

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772487528614854658/1129401031294468256/image.png Issue found and eliminated. Thank you for the tip!

H Cat

Search for "Scatterer_config". I remember Jade had this issue at some point but I can't remember the mod that came with the patch.

Blackrack

Huh. I am not aware of any patches that I intentionally put there. What would a patch need to modify to cause this? What line of text do I need to search for?

H Cat

That just means you have a ModuleManager patch somewhere overriding the settings. I can't tell you where though, do a search in your GameData

Blackrack

I am well aware of that. My issue is just that I go into my save, set the preset to high, then close ksp, and the next time I open it again it's back on low. It doesn't save the settings in a normal save, not only in lunamp. I also prefer to use scatterer TAA as to me it looks better (read: sharper) than the TUFX TAA

H Cat

Default settings are included in Scatterer and they default to low. Although that has TAA enabled, but TUFX includes a MM patch to disable scatterer TAA if you have that.

Blackrack

Awesome! I really appreciate you looking into this. Thank you!

H Cat

Figured I'd open a seperate comment for a different issue: Recently, whenever I load up ksp, scatterer has forgotten it's settings and defaulted to low, which looks god awful with no AA. The only potential weird things I have recently done is replace the clouds.cfg with a custom one, play luna multiplayer (where modded save infos generally aren't stored, only vanilla save options are governed by the server), and with the most recent scatterer update I just overwrote the folders instead of deleting them and extracting. No idea what of that would cause scatterer to fail to remember the settings I made.

H Cat

Will do, I hope kspcf has a mechanism for easily replacing stock shaders (probably they do).

Blackrack

yup, flags are utterly cursed. Perhaps if you come up with a fix to flags you could pull request that into KSP Community Fixes? Otherwise if it remains in only the dev builds here on patreon, all people using normal scatterer will find my concorde to be broken, and have to deal with the pain of these broken flags even without scatterer. Either way, I am quite happy that you're willing to look at this. The amount of workarounds I have needed so far to circumvent this is... sizable.

H Cat

I can't help with the dragcubes (jesus how have they botched this so badly) but I think the z issue is easy to fix, just by setting the flag as transparency (in shader type and renderqueue) they will start getting sorted automatically, I can look into that as well if I end up replacing the shader.

Blackrack

Flags can not contain a repeating image as far as I know. But if there is a normal .png file that has pixels on one edge of the flag, but no pixels on the opposite edge, there is this weird line that appears on that side. I do now know whether flags can load a dds image. I only know for sure they load pngs. I am also not familiar with how to generate a dds image, so I cannot test this hypothesis. On the bug report I did include a demo craft for that though, so you can test it if you know how to generate a fitting .dds file. Flags in KSP are utterly cursed and poorly implemented... Just look at these two more issues that have been driving me mad: https://github.com/KSPModdingLibs/KSPCommunityFixes/issues/135 https://github.com/KSPModdingLibs/KSPCommunityFixes/issues/126 Their shader seems to be unlike any other part, and it is not handled well at all. Same goes for their phyiscs.

H Cat

Anyway quick question: can a flag ever contain a repeating image (I haven't used them in forever)? And btw for your fix attempt, I'm not sure if you can load a .dds file as flag? If so add 1 pix transparent to every mip level, or save the dds without mipmaps.

Blackrack

Not expecting any promises. But if you happen to find something, I would be very grateful. Thanks for even having a look. And good luck finding the issue!

H Cat

I can't promise anything about this one

Blackrack

That would be extremely appreciated if you can make it work! This has been driving me nuts pretty much ever since flags have come into existence. I would love to see that fixed. Also, if it isn't too much too ask, if you're already looking at the shader for flags, could you maybe have a look if there might be a simple-ish fix for this issue: https://github.com/KSPModdingLibs/KSPCommunityFixes/issues/136

H Cat

Hmm I could probably fix this for next version if the shader doesn't do anything special, I'll let you know how it goes.

Blackrack

Will there ever be a fix for scatterer rendering above flags that have a flag with transparent parts? It is extremely annoying for me as I built an entire concorde out of flags. The only solution to have flags render above scatterer is to have a flag image on a flag part that is not transparent. However KSP is bad at figuring out the layering then, so if I try to use further flags over the previous flags for a livery, ksp often renders the white flags in front of the livery, despite physically being behind it. The only solution to that is to have the structural flag parts of the concorde have a flag image on them that is fully transparent. But in any area where a flag does not have a image texture and no other part behind it, scatterer will render above the flag, https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/772485444570316831/1129211872684540096/screenshot1298.png see here I would really appreciate it if this was fixed. it's been driving me nuts working on this replica for a long while now.

H Cat

Looking good. Is there a reason you don't delete your old 2d clouds though? Do you like how they look?

Blackrack

Here's a link to an awesome screenshot I made today. Just out of the thick lower level of clouds, Kerbin is having an eclipse. My spaceplane is blasting upwards towards towards a wispy second layer of clouds. No, it didn't have enough power and fuel to make it, but this screenshot before the carnage looks pretty amazing. https://drive.google.com/file/d/19FJbZcxvki2Gyhh1jEmYmvFPuFa5bOz3/view?usp=sharing

Kevin Sean Dempsey

There are some big clouds (like the anvil clouds on Kerbin, cloud on Jool, the Duna dust storms), on Kerbin though they look out of place if I make them bigger than they are now, it was one of the earliest feedback/complaints on my first screenshots in development. For how the clouds are raymarched it's expensive to mix high density and low density clouds to get the transparency effect you're describing, for now I do it only on Jool (because on there only the clouds are rendered so performance is ok). It's on my list to revisit though.

Blackrack

a few observations: the clouds appear a bit like a kind of dome because they are all flying at the same height and having a pretty flat z height on good weather, there are too many small clouds.... in real life, most of them would also have a high degree of transparency (at least parts of the cloud) i'd generally love to see bigger clouds (in all 3 dimensions) of course i have no idea what techniques are underlying these effects, so feel free to ignore my feedback if it's way too complicated to implement

Ownly Me

I have, note that this doesn't change the look of the clouds, it cleans up noise and upscaling artifacts mostly and is very GPU heavy so use it if you have like a 3090/4080: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M1jU0thYYt89okCZySFL-f9lnZW22oN0/view?usp=sharing It needs ModuleManager btw. Here is what I'm working on now and what will probably be in the next update: - Load on demand (ram and vram usage reduction, lower load times and slight perf improvement): This is mostly ready I'm just making sure it's stable - Droplets and streaks on windshields/cockpits from rain: In progress, I will show something when it looks/feels right - More frequent rain on Kerbin (by popular demand) - Weather configs for Eve and Laythe - Other small fixes After that here's what the next update will probably contain: - A drastic performance improvement for skipping empty space while raymarching (much higher fps in theory) - Aurora - Light from multiple sources, think planetshine and clouds+atmo being lit by moonlight, lit by Jool on Laythe etc And longer term: - Volumetric mach and re-entry effects - Volumetric rocket plumes - Other wacky experiments like weather simulations or global illumination, to be determined when I get there tbh

Blackrack

ctrl + alt + 0, navigate to lightning manager using the arrow buttons on the top of the window, find lightning-Kerbin or lightning-Jool or whatever you want to edit, set realisticAudioDelay to 1, apply and save.

Blackrack

Hey i was wondering what settings to go to and what to change to get lightning to have a realistic sound delay. I remember doing it somehow but forgot

AColo

This really is awesome. Such a great job! Curious for a couple of things: We’re you able to create a performance heavy config? What are your plans for the future of this mod? What would you like to see the mod do?

Mr SkW3rL

Ah sorry the shortcut is ctrl +alt + 0

Blackrack

Thanks for replying, I did try time wrapping in the KSC before, but this time I time wrapped for a few days in flight mode and did start to see the second layer this time. However, when pressing ctrl+0 I cannot see any pop-up windows, does clicking the blue "EVE" icon show the same setting menu as the one you were talking about with ctrl+0?

蒼月

There should be two layers on Kerbin, have you timewarped but never saw the 2nd layer? If so post some screenshots of what you're seeing and your KSP.log file. You will see weather changes if you timewarp for a while as well although I'm going to make them more frequent in the next update. The UI is accessible via ctrl+0 and all the settings are explained in the github wiki, keep in mind the settings are complex so you need to put in a lot of time to get good results.

Blackrack

Questions regarding the clouds on Kerbin: 1. after installation I can only see one layer of cloud at ~2700m, and there seems to be no weather change around the KSC. Do you have any presets that give more varied clouds and weather changes? 2. if we don't have such presets, which pannel should I be editing on the EVE menu to achieve this? I saw a lot of options on the GitHub page, but I am struggling to find all these options. questions aside, amazing job you have done here!

蒼月

1. You can go down to -75km inside Jool. 2. Tufx is fine, likely you have a nullref spam or something like that if you get 15 fps looking at the sky, maybe remove mods one by one until you find the issue

Blackrack

I have two questions. One. What do You mean by deeper than 250m? Two. Is your mod optimized for TUFX because i have 15 FPS looking at sky with EVE+AVP (my config for vol. clouds) + TUFX

Perzyk

Reinstall boulderCo, then delete everything from it apart from citylights .cfg and citylights textures

Blackrack

Any suggestions on how to get citylights to show up again?

kirill

Do you have a screenshot?

Blackrack

Hey just checking is duna meant to look really dark without clouds? it appears to no have a atmosphere.

Bavreet Ubhi

It needs a bit of work, you need to make a coverageMap and a cloudType map from the original cloud texture and then configure the rest of the settings. You can see what each map does here: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Raymarched-Clouds-Overview#coverage-map The settings are explained here: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Raymarched-cloud-configuration In the simplest case you can make a coverageMap as described in the wiki and reuse the settings for Kerbin.

Blackrack

Amazing! ill check it out. Ty

Bryan Olaya Garcia

How would I convert standard, flat EVE clouds to work with this? Or would I have to bother the planet pack author?

Redwood Reed

As always, you're terrific in replaying (like me hehehe) I'm going to be getting a new rig one of there days, I know I'm pushing the 960 (hmmm OC'ing may be in its future ...) Thanks so much for what you have done for the community!

Marc J Zeldes

That happens to everybody from orbit and it's a rendering limitation, especially if timewarping or getting low fps. You can fix it by lowering temporal upscaling (setting it to 1x) but that will hit the performance really hard, with your gtx 960 (iirc) it will probably make the game too slow. See here how if you want to do it anyway: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Temporal-upscaling-and-noise-detiling

Blackrack

I'm not sure, perhaps it's my settings, but why do the coulds look so bad for me when in low orbit? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hntCZog2vYTAqNkPS9J21jCkkrQalAO9/view?usp=sharing

Marc J Zeldes

For now you can edit the time settings of layers weather1 and weather2 but it's not super simple (you'll then have to copy the same settings for snow1 and snow2 they are synced). You have to make sure activation times for the 2 layers don't overlap though or you'll have issues. Check here how to do it: github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Time-settings

Blackrack

Man this mod is stunning!

Datau 03

hello, i really love this mod looks fantastic!!! just a question how can i increase the rain prob? ty

Bryan Olaya Garcia

It will, but it won't be me who provides those configs, it will be the planet pack's authors/maintainers.

Blackrack

Will this mod be compatible with more planet packs in the future? (e.g OPM or Galaxies Unbound)

Hugh Mercuri

Hi blackrack I still love the work ur doing even if I missed my last payment, things have been chaotic getting ready for college but my birthday was recent :')

Kambassador

OK, so I launched the game multiple times with the latest configuration and now the clouds have appeared. Very strange

Spencer McGeehan

Redoing the mod install with this order didn't seem to help, maybe I'll just go for a clean reinstall of everything and pray

Spencer McGeehan

RSSVE -> Raymarched Clouds (from here) -> RSSVE config (from here) don't install EVE or Scatterer externally. With that said I've not tested them myself so I can't really say, only what I saw reported. If they still don't work you might want to give them a try with release 1

Blackrack

Trying to use this along with the RSSVE config but have no clouds at all rendering. Is the correct installation order EVE -> RSSVE -> Raymarched Clouds (from here) -> RSSVE config (from here)?

Spencer McGeehan

thanks, i set it to 2x and got similar quality as 1x with much higher performance.

Orpev

That's normal, you can reduce temporal upscaling to improve it but the performance will get worse, see here how to do it: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Temporal-upscaling-and-noise-detiling

Blackrack

when i move my camera around when close to jool it becomes pixel-ish for a few seconds, is that natural or are my mods affecting the quality?

Orpev

it worked thanks for the help

theo

It works but it won't look good, it'd need maps and configs tailored for that scale.

Blackrack

hey does this work with 10x kerbol system

AColo

Looks like you have AVP or Spectra or something else installed that messes with the atmosphere configs. Remove that and it should look fine.

Blackrack

https://imgur.com/a/cptn2Kl I know I said pixalated, and it does not look exactly like that in the screenshot, but it still does look really dark and just "weird," this is taken from a 1,000 kilometer orbit

AMolecularMassofUranium235

Screenshots?

Blackrack

For some reason, the clouds on jool look really dark and pixalated, is this normal?

AMolecularMassofUranium235

Amuse-toi bien!

Blackrack

Magnifique ! En effet j avais laissé eve pensant que c'était nécessaire.... maintenant il n y a plus de conflit,le ciel est vraiment magnifique . Merci !

Moods Moodd

it didnt work ill try delete the mod

theo

I was going to suggest deleting the whole mod first to see if that fixes it and if it does look for the exact file, but if you found it there's no need I guess.

Blackrack

i know its not Kcalbeloh because the problem didn't start when I downloaded it so it has to be one of the other 2 but the thing is I don't have gpp installed and I have no idea what file to remove from gu edit: think I found it

theo

thanks ill try remove them

theo

Shit, tuff asf

Ebcagu

It's a config for RSS the real solar system mod which replaces the stock system with the real one.

Blackrack

I'm not very familiar with graphic design, could someone explain what an RSS configuration is? Thank you.

Ebcagu

Hello, tu supprime BoulderCo, AstronomersVisualPack, Spectra, Scatterer et EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements avant de copier les nouveaux fichiers et normalement c'est bon.

Blackrack

Bonjour merci pour votre travail tres qualitatif. Comment puis je etre sur de bien desinstaller tous les fichiers configuration des tous les add ons pour ne pas parasiter votre mod . cordialemernt

Moods Moodd

You have config files from Kcalbeloh, GU and GPP which seem to be overriding the sunflare. One of those is breaking/disabling it. Also you seem to have 2D clouds in addition to the volumetric ones (at least by AVP and maybe GU) applying to the stock planets. This doesn't really work and you end up with weird 2D clouds that appear both in front of and behind the volumetric clouds, with rendering errors and looking weird in general, I suggest removing these.

Blackrack

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L4I_X5j0hD5M9JZ1G5oNSZ-vUn943_mD/view?usp=sharing log

theo

ok will do

theo

You need to make the log file public

Blackrack

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L4I_X5j0hD5M9JZ1G5oNSZ-vUn943_mD/view?usp=sharing ksp log file

theo

i will get the log file in a sec

theo

https://freeimage.host/i/H6fSm0b https://freeimage.host/i/H6fSie2 https://freeimage.host/i/H6fSpgj images of the sun and scatterer ui

theo

thanks

theo

https://imgbb.com/ https://freeimage.host/

Blackrack

imgur doesn't work since im in the UK what should I do

theo

ok thanks

theo

https://imgur.com/ for the pictures, google drive or dropbox for the KSP.log file

Blackrack

ok how do i send the pictures to you I'm just loading up ksp now

theo

Send me your KSP.log file and a screenshot of how your sun looks in-game. Open the scatterer UI with ctrl +alt +f11 in flight, press sunflares, click sun and take a screenshot of what it displays.

Blackrack

no i didn't all i have installed for visuals is your mods parallax and AVP

theo

Did you install any external flare configs?

Blackrack

hi blackrack there is a problem with my ksp which makes it so the sun has no flares I have no idea what mod caulsed it I was just wondering if you know what did it thanks

theo

It seems to be a new issue, it has been reported recently, i haven't fixed it yet

Blackrack

Hi! In the tracking station, I have a visual issue with the sunflare of the sun. When I move my camera, it's like the sunflare "moves" from the sun a bit. The sunflare and the sun aren't "superposed" anymore as they should be. It's a minor visual bug because when I stop moving my camera, everything is back to normal. It's just a bit odd for immersion. Is it normal, or is there a fix? I tried to recreate the bug on various fresh installs, and it definitely comes from the volumetric clouds (or the version of EVE/Scatterer that comes with it). This bug is also present in every planet pack with a star in it. Anyway, thanks for the work. The mod is phenomenal!

Liam

yeah stock works great. I'll just go back no bother. thanks tho

spacehound232

Can't really see any issues. Does the stock system work fine? If so try using release 1 with the KSRSS configs. It may be that the configs are more broken that it seems.

Blackrack

no problem. here is the dropbox link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jq3vxawy2vwwoau/KSP.log?dl=0

spacehound232

Can you send your KSP.log file?

Blackrack

Yes I did , I used astronomers visual pack city lights , deleted everything in AVP folder besides the city lights textures and .cfg , you might have to edit the citylights.cfg in AVP to remove “REQUIRES PARALLAX!” for the true volumetric clouds version of EVE to recognise it

Irfan

Just a dumb issue with me trying to get this to work with KSRSS. I'm still seeing black eve clouds with the volumetric clouds. They are only visible from orbit or in the tracking station.

spacehound232

Have you managed to get city lights to appear? I tried to copy cfg and textures, but they do not show up.

Daniel Lewan

I think anything that would effect the game like that should be a toggleable option

Gyozo_64

Understood, thanks.

Aebestach Z

Yes but the coverageMap only tells you where the clouds appear. You need to tune/configure everything else as well and honestly a bit of work is needed for good results.

Blackrack

And i've been wondering, is it the same process for custom gas giants? I've tried doing it but it's really messy

ProximaCentauri

Hey it's still on my list but it's not a priority item so I can't say exactly when I'll be trying it or if it will work well.

Blackrack

Thank you! And also thank you for this amazing mod!

ProximaCentauri

Hi blackrack, I would like to ask if weather such as sand and dust affects the efficiency of solar panels in generating electricity is still on the to-do list?

Aebestach Z

thanks!

Irfan

Yeah you have to copy the citylights cfg and the associated textures from BoulderCo

Blackrack

is it possible to add the city lights back in from the public EVE , I've noticed its missing when overwriting it with true volumetric clouds

Irfan

Since which version? Yesterday's?

Blackrack

Anyone elses game crashes now after the newest update?

Joe Pertl

Absolutely, the lowest layers being lit only by lightning is something I wanted to do from the start

Blackrack

holy shit haha. Jool descensions are honestly a bit terrifying. you eventually reach a black lair of constant lightening strikes.

Ryan Laffler

That's the coverageMap, see here: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Raymarched-Clouds-Overview

Blackrack

Amazing! So I've been wondering how I could make the volumetric clouds match a custom 2d layer (like a modded planet for example)?

ProximaCentauri

You rock, man!

Josh

Thank you, love your work :)

Enraged_Ares

I just need to ask, how come you aren't on KSP2's dev team? This is such a fantastic mod is easily worth the money!

NovaRaptorTV

You'll have to give moho a thin/empty scatterer atmosphere though, the clouds on this build only load on scatterer planets.

Blackrack

Cool, I'm going to attempt to make the Noctilucent Clouds on Kerbin and a intermittant FireStorm on Moho.

PicoSpace Industries

Yes, there are some gotchas regarding volumetrics, altitudes of the volumetric clouds of different layers must not overlap for example (these are described in the wiki https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki) but yes you got the gist of it.

Blackrack

Looking at the config files and the textures, am I right in assuming if I wanted to add another cloud layer to kerbin (Noctilucent cloud @ 60km) I'd just have to make the texture map and add another segment of the cloud code in clouds.cfg? Follow-up, in thoery one could then add clouds using this mod to any planets they wanted correct?

PicoSpace Industries

This looks absolutely fantastic!

Dominic Watkins

Can you post your KSP.log file?

Blackrack

Elskabob

I just removed the file from the gamedata folder and finally got it to work, thank you! Great mod BTW, well worth the $5

Thomas

Paint or copy some to the coverage texture

Blackrack

so how do you put clouds everywhere???

Christian Calvillo

No, send me your KSP.log file, you can upload it on google drive (make sure to make it public)

Blackrack

I've tried this but it's not working. Should I have put the file I downloaded into the gamedata folder?

Thomas

Downloaf the zip from the google drive link above. Unzip it, inside there should be a GameData folder, take the contents of that GameData folder and put them inside the GameData folder inaide your KSP install. Which of these steps are you having trouble with?

Blackrack

I can't install it for the life of me, can you please help

Thomas

Completely understandable. Thanks for the quick response and wonderful mod!

LegionofOne

Suggestions are fine, unfortunately I don't like both science and career and how they are implemented, they are both meaningless to me so this won't be a feature I'm interested in. The good news is that if anyone else wants to implement it, this feature can be added on top of the public plugin code that is available on my github.

Blackrack

Is there any place for suggestions? I had an idea for this (I don't know how feasible it would be) regarding the storms. Is it possible to create a science experiment that requires being IN a storm to run? I would love to send a Kerbal storm chasing in the name of weather science. Obviously this is all if you want to, just thought I'd share the idea.

LegionofOne

I have send you a message, can you see it?

HideoKuze

Sure, but you need to wait for me to reproduce this bug, I have too many mods lol.

HideoKuze

Ok, I have to launch my game first, I have disabled the log file to test whether it can boost my fps. And I haven't test it without KSRSS

HideoKuze

I never heard of this, probably caused by whatever else is breaking scatterer first in the error above. Include the KSP.log file and I'll take a look. Also some screenshots would help.

Blackrack

Can you provide the KSP.log file? Have you tested it without KSRSS and without any other visual mods apart from Scatterer+EVE?

Blackrack

Also, when I use F9 to load, there is a chance that the Earth split to two (double vision, seems scatter atmosphere effect is at the wrong position in some angle of view, so does the sun), also, anything that close to the camera is 'cut'( just like when you move the camera into the object), I assume that this is the problem of your version of scatter?

HideoKuze

I got a lot of errors like this when open SpaceCenter for the first time: Error thread group count is above the maximum limit 65535, and the FPS is only like 2. When I zoom out from KSRSS-Earth, the log shows that the scatter effect is unloaded from kerbin and my FPS is back to normal.

HideoKuze

Tested it with my Main KSP Instance with +270 mods, everything seems to work on Kerbin (no more flashing EVA/IVA JumpScare).

PicoSpace Industries

It's not that simple

Blackrack

Maybe add a rain slider (that goes to 11?) LOL...

PicoSpace Industries

Yes it does break it and I belive scatterer breaks it too. This option in general isn't compatible with temporal effects and although it'd be nice for screenshots, to me it's not worth the effort of making it compatible.

Blackrack

Does Eve-Redux disable the SCREENSHOT_SUPERSIZE = 2 option in settings.cfg? By default, and with old Eve, that setting will render screenshots at higher than native resolution within the actual game engine. With Eve-Redux, it seems like that option uses a bilinear/nearest-neighbor upscale instead of actually re-rendering the screenshot. Is it because Eve-Redux uses a different rendering method than vanilla? Is there a way to make Eve-Redux respect the SCREENSHOT_SUPERSIZE = 2 setting, and natively render screenshots at a higher resolution? It's a really useful and unique feature for a game, and it's always been in KSP. It helps for creating nice screenshots, which your mod has plenty of! Cheers!

Ryan

you're a psycho, amazing achievement!

GEN 2 MEDIA INC.

i think varying ammounts of rain could be really cool. like light sprinkle to RAGING HURICANE lol

POPCAT

Just wanted to say thanks to your mod (followed by waterfall effects) has made me start playing KSP again after a long lull. Great work!

Toastmeister

Last release there was complaints about too much rain :')

Blackrack

The only problem Im finding is that the frequency of rai on Kerbin was less than I expected...Im calling for more rain!

D S

sent you a message

EnzyPenumbra

imgur.com

Blackrack

how do i send ss

EnzyPenumbra

Screenshots?

Blackrack

when i head into jool surface, i see alot of circles, is that a bug that needs to be fixed, giving feedback

EnzyPenumbra

This would be amazing...

John Alexiou

Thanks for fixing the flashing/crashing :)

Death Engineering

thank you!

Hamish Blaxellberry

You didn't update :) In fact I'm not sure what you did but you're back on the version from the previous release. Make sure to fully delete Scatterer, EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements and StockVolumetricClouds, download and extract the link above and merge it with your GameData.

Blackrack

Done

Jacob Sell

I think the jrodrigv one requires EVO to be installed.

Blackrack

You need to make it public or grant me access

Blackrack

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18jp0HCjw1_OZThKMJg8g8mLFA8JPnuHa/view?usp=sharing

Jacob Sell

Thanks for proposing, but I don't want to at the moment.

Blackrack

I could help set up a server for you and get a few people here with experience to volunteer to moderate if you want, but you call the shots

Noah

Can you send your KSP.log file?

Blackrack

how do i install the volumetric clouds for rss

Bio_Bionix

unfortunately im still being jumpscared even while im in space, i assume the rain doesnt render in space so something else must be the culprit.

Jacob Sell

I can't make configs for every mod indeed, so it won't work for those other planet mods out of the box. They can make volumetric clouds for any other planets and distribute their configs (as long as they distribute only their configs and not my mod files). The wiki basically covers all aspects (https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki) and the included configs can be used as learning examples. However making good configs can take some time and some getting used to.

Blackrack

Question from a viewer of my channel: Does this work for OP / Infinite Discoveries? I assume that you haven't had the time to make this mod suitable to every other mod, but still wanted to ask. Further more they asked if they can use the mod to make the clouds for those planets from other mods.

Viktor Wolf van Eeden

The KSRSS guys, it's more of a config issue than a scatterer issue.

Blackrack

Oh, these is another problem, the Jupiter in KSRSS looks really dim/dark, someone on the KSRSS's forum said this is a bug from scatter, an I can use the old version scatter since I have to use this volumetric cloud mod, so I don't know which one I have to report this bug to, you or the KSRSS guys.

HideoKuze

Please tell them that the CloudShadow in KSRSS-64K/land.cfg is not compatible with this volumetric mod, it makes shadows without the corresponding cloud, I deleted this object from the config, I'm not sure whether the shadow looks correct now, it seems has no cloud shadow when looking from space.

HideoKuze

I replaced those removed png in the config, I'm not sure whether that will work, I haven't seen any fog or rain, but the cloud is always normal.

HideoKuze

Btw you could probably reuse the old StockVolumetricClouds configs with the new Scatterer and EVE plugins and have KSRSS configs work

Blackrack

Ah makes sense, I'll just remove them and say they are outdated for now, and ping the owners to fix them.

Blackrack

Also, the 'PerlinFog.png' is also removed and causes an exception since the KSRSS config still using it.

HideoKuze

There are some png files' name has been changed, such as 'KerbinCloudTypeLow.png'->'KerbinCloudTypeLowAlt.png', and the KerbinRain.png is removed, so when using KSRSS config, some exceptions are thrown. Also, those newest effects such as snow and Jool things are not supported in KSRSS yet, I tried to update it but failed since I don't know how to make clouds dds file. Perhaps you or someone else may fix these things?

HideoKuze

I don't have an official Discord because I don't want to manage one. But I usually hang out in the EVE and scatterer channels of the kopernicus discord so you can find me there, although this server is mostly for planet modders: https://discord.com/invite/uA69S3zZqf

Blackrack

In which way is it outdated? No rain/lightning or something is broken?

Blackrack

The KSRSS config is out-dated, I'm trying to update it

HideoKuze

In general you can't mix volumetric configs with old 2d configs.

Blackrack

That's a limitation of temporal upscaling, you can reduce/disable it but it will become more performance intensive. Check here how to do it: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Temporal-upscaling-and-noise-detiling

Blackrack

Do you have a discord server blackrack?

Noah

Would also love to see support for OPM if possible :) Unfortunately the OPM-VO (Visual overhaul) looks like it's been sitting unchanged since 2017, so it might be up to the community to create a dedicated pack for these awesome new elements. Would be amazing to see the dark side of Neidon and Urlum lighting up with lightning from orbit! P.s. Love your work Blackrack!

do either of the RSS configs work with PRVE?

person

Nice!

John Alexiou

Im having an issue where at around 100-150km above kerbin the clouds are super glitchy, low res, and grainy. Other than that this is an awesome mod and was definitely worth the 5$

AColo

Gonna check your channel out soon!

LegionofOne

Timewarp a week or two and wait for the big ones to kick in

Blackrack

Ctrl + alt + 0, use the arrows to find lightningManager, set realisticAudioDelay to 1.0 for all the configs or just for the Kerbin one, apply and save

Blackrack

is there a config for making the lightning sound have realistic delay?, love the update btw!

Hamish Blaxellberry

the dust storms on duna don't look like they do in videos online can anyone help me pls

Bio_Bionix

This issue is now fixed, the link above is updated.

Blackrack

The flashing issue is now fixed, you can redownload the above link.

Blackrack

I plan to do that for Eve, as well as add some more variation and some rotating areas.

Blackrack

Not really, imo that's just how it looks in screenshots because it's bright at first and very quickly dims and it's hard to capture the exact moment it's at its brightest. But feel free to adjust the color of the bolt to make it brighter in the lightning.cfg settings and let me know if that works for you.

Blackrack

Thank you so much!!! I would have never known. Completely unrelated but what if you could make certain spots on the planet eve where its all clear skies, cuz like it would be cool to have some scars of clear sky amongst the total fluff lol

Gyozo_64

Beautiful, just simply beautiful. Honestly I think my only proper critique of this (before playing) is the lightning bolts themselves seem quite dim, compared to the light they emit through the clouds. Is the lightning still a work in progress?

MechanicPluto24

It has been reported to be caused by Distant Object Enhancements, I've not investigated why yet

Blackrack

When i go below 0 on jool the top half of the game just goes black whyy?

Gyozo_64

I don't plan to at the moment (that's more for OPM/OPMVE maintainers), but I have to say that additional gas giants are tempting.

Blackrack

Do you plan to add support for the Outer Planets Mod?

martiny

The current license agreement does not allow you to share with others. It's not allowed to redistribute the mod. Your friend can make a one-time $5 Patreon purchase though and receive the current version of the mod.

Ryan

Not a good solution, they'll draw behind the volumetrics when they are in front, which will look very weird.

Blackrack

you can get auroras(aurorae?) right now,just combine the volumetric clouds pack with any other EVE pack like AVP,when I installed it I kept AVP for the OPM visuals, you can make them compatible by deleting any configs from AVP that duplicate with those of volumetric clouds(its a couple files in the AstronomersVisualPack/AVP_Configs/Stock folder, look which ones have identical names to the ones in volumetric clouds),with that you get the other AVP effects like the auroras but with the volumetric clouds.

Dragonking

how would i send screenshots? and also are you okay with me giving this mod to one of my friends?

viper

Screenshots?

Blackrack

absolutely incredible work on jool

Fin Partridge

Great work so far! A huge upgrade from what EVE was before. Keep it up my guy!

CaptainWhitmire

i think i found a bug lighting is kind of broken for me in first person it looks very off from the third person one every single light source is just off place

viper

Yes

Blackrack

and are tornadoes and hurricanes planned?

viper

For now the easiest way is to timewarp

Blackrack

how do i spawn rain clouds?

viper

thank you. now it works fine. amazing mod

sKs LФCҜHΞΞD

Looks like you still have some config packs like BoulderCo or spectra installed, make sure you remove them.

Blackrack

https://imgur.com/a/A4z6gpX thanks

sKs LФCҜHΞΞD

Yes, I'm currently fixing this

Blackrack

Just wondering, is this mod causing the flickering of the IVA portraits? Or is it another mod?

brimmla

You can skip installing it through CKAN. There are no dependencies and make sure you only use the versions of EVE and Scatterer and their configs that are included here. Also some screenshots of the issue you're seeing and the KSP.log file would help.

Blackrack

Of course

Blackrack

You can find more info in his forum: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/196411-19-112x-eve-redux-performance-enhanced-eve-maintenance-v11171-09092022/

Damino

Hey there, for me, I install EVE Redux first with CKAN and then drop Blackrack's mod on top of it. If you get unusual fog/clouds first time around, usually restarting the game once will clear that. EDIT: Make sure you don't Install any of the additional Recommended Default Configs for EVE when CKAN prompts you.

Damino

perhaps volumetric auroras?

Jacob Sell

Do I need any dependencies? I just installed the mod for the first time but my craft looks grey (like a flat texture) in Jool and I see some spheric shapes on where its surface would be. Also I couldn't find any clouds in Eve (I only see a blurry area)

sKs LФCҜHΞΞD

If you could link up with the Kerbal Weather Project guy and work on some climactically accurate maps for the mod...damn that would be wild. I know some weather and climate stuff but I think that's way out of my depth.

TEN THOUSAND LOSSES

Yeah in the future

Blackrack

Will we still be able to get auroras?

Imaan Nodem

Five nights at jeb's

Blackrack

This would be nice to have, I tried looking into creating a config, but it is a little complicated. You need to have a nice texture for the gas giants and all that jazz. It’s up to the mod creator, Pood’s, or anyone who wants to make one.

John Alexiou

I had this issue as well.

John Alexiou

No, I think restock (and+) is covered by Magpie and there are defaults/configs.

PicoSpace Industries

Well, you can't copyright the thunder itself, but you can copyright the recording of the thunder. Just like I couldn't copyright a musical scale, but I could copyright my recording of that scale.

theoneGalen

it’s almost like a jump scare 😂

Jacob Sell

Seconded, experiencing the strange texture tearing and flickering on EVA every time. Thankfully it only lasts a minute or two. Having a very strange issue where the game randomly toggles between IVA and external view at arbitrary intervals too. Can't say if it's related but it started after the update. Otherwise, this is spectacular.

Anthony Alessi

I finally reproduced this bug tonight after multiple reports, I'm working on fixing it, seems to be caused by the rain splashes.

Blackrack

hey ive just encountered a bug while being eva in foggy conditions where the screen switches to the texture of whatever kerbal is eva for a split second. not sure if this has something to do with the smoke effect but i havent encountered this bug until now

Jacob Sell

Can't say I do, maybe you could look up the maintainer on the forums and message them?

Blackrack

It should be there but since the lightning is very brief I'm not you'd be able to see them much.

Blackrack

I'm personally not knowledgeable about them, I'll let others answer

Blackrack

so, if I'm using restock, will that conflict with TURD/Magpie mods?

Jonathan Bayer

I messaged their support about it before buying the files and that's what they told me. Maybe a cookie cutter answer but I thought I'd put a warning for streamers just in case. Seems to be all fine so far and honestly sounds much better and more coherent than the free sounds I used at first to prototype it.

Blackrack

Send your KSP.log file just in case. Check if you have the dust storms on Duna.

Blackrack

Yes both are sets of configs for TU: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/174188-112x-textures-unlimited-recolour-depot/page/6/

Blackrack

Thank you. I think it's memory related, this version has more textures. I will compress/reduce them and reupload. I'm also going to add on demand loading.

Blackrack

do you know of anyone working on configs for OPM?

The Jass

Magpie == Magpie Mods by ilikeduck? TURD??

Jonathan Bayer

im just wondering, how does one license the sound of thunder? that seems like katy perry trying to say she owned a musical scale

Crazy_clay 78 YT

I do have Parallax, but others have it too and it works fine from what I've seen.

FrailFlunky99

I don't think this will be very satisfactory as an answer, but in some cases it's because of other mods being interdependent. In which case the reason this mods not working for you might be that you in fact need to reinstall or more likely uninstall other mods? I feel like parallax and eve/scatterer related mods are most likely to interact and conflict. I'm sure there's a better answer though

D S

Yeah I am in a cumulonimbus right now. No thunder or rain or lightning. I have tried reinstallling it 3 times now and I don't know what to do.

FrailFlunky99

Magpie is nice, but turn it off in the VAB as it makes the parts in the editor selector a bit too dark for my liking.

PicoSpace Industries

It would be nice for hurricanes and tornadoes when different cloud structures collide. Although this is only visual, it would be cool if there was wind/turbulance associated with it.

PicoSpace Industries

Yes but I did all that and no rain or lighting. I think I installed it wrong but I dont know how.

FrailFlunky99

They are sporatic, look for dark clouds and Cumulonimbus clouds for higher chance of finding lightning and rain etc. Snow is in the south/north pole regions.

PicoSpace Industries

I was time warping for probably an hour, no rain or lightning or snow

FrailFlunky99

it took me a while time warp helps

joseph monsue

do you plan to add hurricanes? that would be awesome!

joseph monsue

I haven't been able to see lightning, snow, or rain at all and I did the install process. If anyone could help with a fix that would be great!

FrailFlunky99

Absolutely amazing work, I can't thank you enough. I've seen tons of screenshots on the subreddit but it looks even better when playing it. Has anyone had stability issues with the most recent release? I'm having loading screen crashes and I was thinking of going to the last stable release but it might be a mod conflict or something.

Mason Edwards

Parallax 2, TUFX with a good config (Ballisticfox's and invaderchaos are popular), maybe TURD or magpie for parts.

Blackrack

Linuxgurugamer here. I'll be also showing this mod off in an upcoming Twitch stream. I'm working on a KSP install with maximum graphics. Beyond this, I'd be interested in hearing what others consider necessary for great graphics

Jonathan Bayer

Here is an example of what I'm talking about. You can see that eventually a lightning strike stops it, but then the game freezes a short time later so something is up... https://youtu.be/CaN3l4oIA0M

PicoSpace Industries

Can you send your KSP.log file and some screenshots?

Blackrack

Yes of course

Blackrack

This is amazing work, great job!

ProximaCentauri

I just want to ask if you are okay with me showing off this mod in a youtube video (@curious_ksp_)? (i'll link to your patreon)

Viktor Wolf van Eeden

I love your mod. But i discovered a small bug with scatterer. When you zoom in or out in IVA the atmosphere and ocean is not alined anymore

Jakoby1835

Don't worry I'll have my own version.

Blackrack

Can you post your KSP.log file and a screenshot of your gamedate folder contents?

Blackrack

I need some help. Scatterer and EVE is behaving as if I have the volumetric clouds but it can't see them. I have downloaded the link and put it in my gamedata and extracted it but it doesn't show up in game. This is my first time so I am unsure how to install it. Please help me.

Benamin

This looks stunning, thanks Blackrack! Now we need to ask Vulkan to release their windshield droplets shader as a mod for ultimate rain vibing 🤤

Daniel Lewan

I can't get it to work, I dunno what I did but it isn't working.

Benamin

Absolutely stunning blackrack, good work.

Benamin

yeah it looks really great! by the way, i didn't have any lightning on jool when i was using physical timewarp, is that intentional?

rbeap

i see, thanks!

rbeap

JNSQ isn't updated for newer versions of scatterer and I don't think there are any volumetric configs for it either, so unfortunately it's stuck in the past unless there are a bunch of updates.

ImpulseSpecifix

Is this compatible with JNSQ?

Tristan Blizzard

Ohh thanks a lot @43ntt

Blackrack

Your antivirus is the virus (sorry I couldn't resist).

Blackrack

I'm very happy with how it turned out, I feel that the big scale and lack of stability in extreme timewarp (20x plus physical warp with hyper warp mod etc) is hurting people's enjoyment of it though.

Blackrack

Go to KSC menu and press the blue orb icon to bring up the scatterer menu, then there is a button that lets you edit individual settings instead of presets. Find the temporal AntiAliasing setting and disable it. Other than that you can disable temporal upscaling in EVE but it will hit performance hard, see here how to do it https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Temporal-upscaling-and-noise-detiling

Blackrack

Yes, there are some dust devils on Duna already, for tornados on Kerbin and other weather features on Eve I'm going to add them as I go.

Blackrack

Really awesome update! Now when are you gonna add wind and tornado's/dust devils lol?

James Jurries

Thanks, I wasn’t quite sure.

John Alexiou

Do you have ridgit attachment installed as a mod? There are two copies and I read that one of them causes anti-aliasing issues with the game.

PicoSpace Industries

POPCAT

Please share some screenshots and the KSP.log file (on google drive for example).

Blackrack

I'm using the EVO config on RSS, and all the landmasses are white.

Sam

Yeah I personally obsessed over every aspect of those stock configs and making them look as good as I can. RSS presents some challenges due to the scale.

Blackrack

Can't wait to see what you come up with.

Blackrack

Eve and Laythe are unchanged in this verion, but improvements will come for these as well, as I plan to do smaller frequent updates I will do them incrementally.

Blackrack

Well it seems that it is a config issue unfortunately...That flickering is annoying! Anyway, I hope that RSS proper support will be available.The stock KSP part of it is just UNREAL though :)

Dimitris Kavallieratos

So I tested out the latest build on a KSP (Lastest Build with Both Expansions) instance that just has this mod installed, sandbox mode. Technical Feedback (Kerbin): Planes/Rockets - Works well, looks good close up, high altitude the clouds flicker/shimmer/look like popcorn or fabric. At planet curvature they do look a bit sharp/thin. Kerbal(seat)/Eva - Kerbal Face can flash on the screen (1 frame) several times. To test Parachute out around some lightning or try flying a craft with chairs in it as the pilot seat (the kerbal is also rendered in those cases). I've also started testing with other mods and the game did crash on me as a kerbal a few times, but trying to figure out which combo causes that. Immersive Feedback (Kerbin): Rain seems sparse, I can be surrounded by lightning and thunder but not have rain (it IS around but very isolated places). I have not tested out snow yet, its on my To Do list. Duna Feedback : (had to install Hyperedit to get there for testing) Flew around the planet and landed, overall I do like the dust storms, no issue so far with Kerbals walking around or being in the storms themselves. Could be a bit heavier/opaque IMHO. Later when I do "Eyes through a Kerbal" test I'd like to barely see the ground at my feet in the most intense part of a dust storm (please and thank you!) EVE/Jool: Seems to work but I was in high orbit... I'll test those later as I expect 99% of everyone else is already and I didn't have the right type of craft to fly around and not get destroyed on entry.

PicoSpace Industries

ohh i thought you had to add support. Thanks for your fast reply! Also i didn't have time to check Eve out, did it also receive storms and flowmaps?

rbeap

I am also having this issue, did you figure out what causes it? EDIT: i figured it out. it seems to be distant object enhancement that causes the bug

Nope, OPM/OPMVE has to do that.

Blackrack

do you plan on adding support for the gas giants in OPM?

rbeap

I took some details from jupiter and repainted them in my own way, I also used stable diffusion to add detail.

Blackrack

oh my days this is insane! jool is absolutely terrifying now. thank you so much for making this!! here are a couple of images i took, and a short video of jool at around -73000m. the video is at real speed, no timewarp. beautiful! https://imgur.com/a/5SjClij

rbeap

Did you use a Jupiter texture as a base for it or something?

John Alexiou

No, I don't think so. I am reinstalling all of my mods now, so it should be fine. Thanks for making this amazing mod though!

John Alexiou

I did but there wasn't any issues. So I'm not sure how you got that. You didn't edit the scatterer configs or have any mod that does?

Blackrack

I made it.

Blackrack

Where did you get the jool texture?

John Alexiou

Not a bug

Blackrack

Also, when you have a chance, were you able to see the log file?

John Alexiou

Thanks, Blackrack, the stroms and clouds are really beautiful and I love it! But I think there's a bug with the south great storm of Jool: looks like the storm is flying above other clouds. Is it ok or it's bug?

GeometryCat

My antivirus keeps on thinking its a virus

Land Hemi

hi blackrack whenever i try to download this it tells me I have a network error (which usually happens) but when I try to restart it it says I am forbidden to download the file do you know anything I could do to fix this thanks EDIT: just had to pray that my wifi wasn't bad whilst downloading it now I have it thank you so much for making this mod

theo

Yeah, that's something I might do, getting pulled and thrown around by a few swirls before being sucked into the depths would be hilarious.

Blackrack

Imagine combining it with a wind mod, that would make Jool even more nightmarish !

Elejelly

Love it! Blackrack, YOU ARE APPRECIATED! <3

D Sory

Not sure as I've not tested those configs myself. You could probably turn down/disable temporal upscaling and that should fix it but it will be much heavier on the GPU. Check here how to do it: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Temporal-upscaling-and-noise-detiling

Blackrack

Blackrack, played stock KSP and I am just speechless, you are a wizard! The issue is with RSS/RO configs, I use the RSSEVO one from jrodrigv and horizon/low clouds/shore at Earth flickers like CRAZY.Is there a solution for that??

Dimitris Kavallieratos

Yep, lightning and rain won't update until you save the texture and use the new texture in your config. I'm going to put that in the wiki.

Blackrack

Painting with the edit tool doesn't seem to activate rain particles.

Ksawery Kubacki

Will this matter for the size of the planet/moon though?

John Alexiou

That's really not supposed to happend. You don't have any mods like JoolSurface or something that mess with Jool?

Blackrack

I’ll try my best to make an OPM config!

John Alexiou

Wow it's so cool!

Ksawery Kubacki

nice one!! thanks bud!

Tom Allain

Now this is a strange one, for some reason i can float on jool as if theres water( edit: apparently kerbals can walk on it), i quite like that

Monkey Wrench

incredible

MusicByVano

Thanks for the fast response! ive been tinkering with making workflows in blender for creating assets for this, this is a very cool project!

Monkey Wrench

Hmm... I see, the clouds themselves work fine in RSS, and they look beautiful, the rain and thunder wasn't really a selling point for me in the mod anyways, I just wanted some nice clouds, performance is surprisingly similar, compared to spectra which I was using before, good job.

It is just a .png renamed (that way the game doesn't compress it so it won't have compression artifacts). Check here for the reasoning on that and other flowmap info: https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Raymarched-Clouds-Overview#flowmaps-upcoming-in-release-2

Blackrack

how does one edit a truecolor image without matlab?

Monkey Wrench

i love it, thank you blackrack

Christian Calvillo

Nm, I'm an idiot. I forgot it was Parallax that gave me those cool visuals and not AVP.

Fuh Q

Not really, wait for avp to update

Blackrack

Is there a way to get this working with AVP without the weird clouds?

Fuh Q

I assume that the KSRSS configs don't delete my configs and textures. If that's the case find the configs for earth-rain (maybe earth-rain-1 and earth-rain-2 ) and add to them these nodes under layeRaymarchedVolume (where there is coverageMap and raymarchingSettings): particleField { particleFieldConfig = rain-Kerbin } lightning { lightningConfig = lightning-Kerbin } ambientSound { soundName = StockVolumetricClouds/Clouds/Sounds/rain-looped } They should then have rain and lightning. If they delete my configs then go in my configs and copy over particleFields.cfg and lightning.cfg, the lightning and rain drop sounds and the textures. Make sure to fix the paths in the .cfg files if you change them.

Blackrack

would it be possible to run the KSRSS configs, and add the rain and particle effects in myself? And if so, could you maybe make a guide on how to do so

RSS and KSRSS configs are (to my knowledge) not updated to support the new rain particles and lightning (which I released yetserday) so keep that in mind.

Blackrack

Just bought the patreon, gonna try it with RSS. If this works, I might not have to buy KSP2 at all.

I just brought my first Patreon so that I can use this mod. EDIT: just tried it amazing work did more in a couple months on your own then the ksp 2 devs in years. ksp 2 pales in comparison to this

eddie

Crl+alt+0, navigate to particle field manager or something like that, choose the particles you want (Kerbin-Rain for example), find the color field, it should be something like color = 255,255,255,45, increase the last number (that's the transparency), apply then save if you're happy.

Blackrack

A math issue in the shader last I checked, I'll double-check to see if it's not a seam in the texture I missed

Blackrack

How can I make the rain particles bolder and more visible?

Alp Tuna Şahin

LETS GOOOOO!

Hassan Khan

hey btw whats this big line across jool? weirded me out a bit https://imgur.com/a/cj6GuXM

POPCAT

I love this!

Alp Tuna Şahin

In order to install volumetric clouds v2 on RSS, what do I need to do? Just overwrite volumetric cloud mod files with existing config files from previous version?

Dimitris Kavallieratos

This is amazing this surely would be great for my HSP series!

Exospaceman

I am using atmosphericbeats config

BetLeader

Awesome. It would definitely be cool to have a subtle highlight that makes sense, but ideally also a minimum ambient level so it matches better with the 2d layer. This is what I have now https://imgur.com/a/pr7sNi4

Martin E

I'm gonna work on that, a flat minlight looks awful so I'm probably going to have it receive light from the mun

Blackrack

Would it be possible to add a _MinLight setting to the volumetric clouds (or inherit the 2d clouds setting)? I like to have a bit of ambient light at night, but the volumetric clouds are pure black.

Martin E

Which cobfiga for KSRSS? I'll test them and see if I have the same issue.

Blackrack

It’s a fresh install which is odd

BetLeader

There are some errors in the log about some of the configs not being valid (notably Earth-Rain1 Earth-Rain2 Earth-Rain3 Earth-Fog etc). These are probably breaking something in the painter. I sugges cleaning up your install until you no longer get these errors in the log. The errors look like this in the log: "[EVE CloudsManager]: Unable to parse config node:"

Blackrack

Ah yes, relaxing city in the clouds, with a view of the ABYSS

Blackrack

top layer. without airpark controlling it is a pain in the grass. https://imgur.com/a/Rp9FBLN

POPCAT

Now I want to see it, did you build it on top of that layer or in the layers under the surface?

Blackrack

sounds cool! my fav feture so far is the great green spot. also i built the cloud city. works great! E X E P T . I . D O N T . H A V E . A I R P A R K

POPCAT

I will maybe be tempted to go back to stock KSP from RSS/RP1 just to check Jool...Phenomenal work!!

Dimitris Kavallieratos

Yep it works, looking good! In the future I'm going to add a lot more storms to that top layer, I've experimented with some but for now their distribution looked weird.

Blackrack

https://imgur.com/a/iwIAAUf link. not sure if it works

POPCAT

Imgur.com

Blackrack

i would like to if i could figure out how 😓

POPCAT

Bringing my space plane in to land from a Mun/Minmus orbital tour, to find that the KSP was covered in rain clouds with poor visibility, had me on the edge of my seat - and then the thunder and lightening just made it perfect! Thank you so much.

Stewart Glendinning

Then you'll have to touch up individual aspects of the config you don't like, touch up the flowmap and cloudtypes with the in-game painter etc. The wiki explains most things in-depth but it's not a simple process.

Blackrack

Start by copying my Jool settings and adjusting the colors. Then follow the steps here to create a basic flowmap from the 2d texture (if it has detail): https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Raymarched-Clouds-Overview#flowmaps-upcoming-in-release-2

Blackrack

No worries take care of yourself ^^

Blackrack

Yes for both

Blackrack

Just wondering, will the particles be visible while your in the KSC screen? And also, how do you use the cloud painter tool?

brimmla

Alright, thanks. Also, the original issue with external lights was that I didn't have any craft power and didn't even realize it, sorry about the confusion.

Maarwan

Yes they are there, but you have to have no or little cloud occluding it for you to see the bolt. Otherwise you may just see some diffuse flash.

Blackrack

Like other then the sound it makes, is there supposed to be a any visible lighting? I see in the images there are some in kerbin-although I have yet to see any (I haven't been looking for them specifically) but yea, just wondering if there is a visible render other than sounds

Maarwan

That may be something the game is doing disabling the lights below 0m but I'm not sure. What do you mean with render for the lighting?

Blackrack

Hey, so I read some of your other replies, and it may be because of too many sounds being played at once, but that's fine. For the lights, whenever you right-click (in my case) landing gear and select light on, it does so for 1 frame, before automatically turning off. Also, is there supposed to be a render for the lighting? I don't seem to see any.

Maarwan

Which music is cutting out randomly? For the external lights do you mean on the craft or on the clouds? Anyway I intentionally made it dark down there so that it is only lit by lightning.

Blackrack

Just use this + Parallax for the stock system and you're good. You can add TUFX on top but the configs are really up to personal taste.

Blackrack

Share some :)

Blackrack

I HAVE TAKEN SO MANY SCREENSHOTS MUAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAA

POPCAT

You can timewarp it's the easiest, alternatively look for anvil clouds. To make them more frequent you have to edit timesettings, but make sure not to overlap them for the different rain layers https://github.com/LGhassen/EnvironmentalVisualEnhancements/wiki/Time-settings

Blackrack

i need mod pack with this and the other best visual mods to go with it :D. this is amazing tho!

Luiz Gama

Whoa! What a nice surprise to cap off the weekend. I'm loving it.

Andrew Cobb

Wow. Jool is absolutely terrifying.

Martin E

Pumped! been waitin for this! Thnx Blackrack

Dewy Frank

Wonderful! I have to see about getting this fully working in RSS, you're a wizard - I fear I must also become one to create a good RSS config though, we shall see :D

N9 Gaming

WOOOW, FINALLY!

GeometryCat

amazing!

Arctifire

I don't know if its intentional. but when entering Jool and the music cutting out randomly, the fact that you cant have any external lights on just heavily makes this so good! I love that "creepy" factor to it! Even if its not intentional

Maarwan

When you have a chance to answer, how would one create a config for a planet such as Sarnus from OPM?

John Alexiou

Here you go. https://www.mediafire.com/file/gnrhfe3tmmv7y54/KSP.log/file

John Alexiou

Awesome! nice work

IsaQuest

Can you send your KSP.log file? For the audio that's the limit of Unity when playing many sounds. I'll try and put a limit on active thunder sounds.

Blackrack

Sure, here it is. The audio from the plane also glitches out too. I can still hear the thunder though. https://i.imgur.com/76FvkbJ.png

John Alexiou

What do you mean? There is not supposed to be a visible sky there. Do you have a screenshot?

Blackrack

Looove iiit!! <3 <3

LizzieBear420

Just noticed a bug when going under 0 meters on Jool, the upper part of the sky turns black.

John Alexiou

YESSSS!!!!! It looks FANTASTIC!

crxsco

AVP will update at one point to support them, since proper aurora support is planned too.

Blackrack

Oh I’m sorry

BetLeader

Sorry I haven't read your log yet since it's 2 am on a monday

Blackrack

Is there a temp fix for my issue?

BetLeader

Amazing work! How do I find the storms (lightning/rain etc?) and is there a way to make it more frequent?

PicoSpace Industries

I agree, AVP loss (auroras particularly) would be nice to have back.

PicoSpace Industries

Joined the Patreon for this! Only issue is having to give up AVP..... Hope later versions can have AVP slapped onto it!

Raikkappa23

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17qpWRLMQW-cMaS5K_ogWw9Ma0eqwXFs-/view?usp=share_link

BetLeader

Send me your KSP.log so I can see what went wrong then restart.

Blackrack

Nope

BetLeader

Pressing reset did nothing?

Blackrack

Just did it, should I restart the game

BetLeader

Give me a moment

BetLeader

Press reset all textures in the painter

Blackrack

I went to the cloud painting and chose Earth-clouds2 and pressed paint selected layer, chose coverageAndCloudType, put cumulus 1 and painted. Clouds disappeared. I zoomed out and there is a white translucent layer. If you zoom out more it acts like there are 2D clouds

BetLeader

You have to tell me what you did lol alternatively just restart the game

Blackrack

yes

BetLeader

Did you do this in-game?

Blackrack

Tried adding clouds and it seemed to have removed the clouds. I am unsure how to revert back

BetLeader

What did you change? You can just revert your changes.

Blackrack

I was tweaking my clouds to test out new features but lost all my clouds in kerbin. How can I reset the clouds? Using KSRSS

BetLeader

I had some problems a few months ago but since this dropped I decided to keep paying for this work of art

Noah

guess who's back back back back again

Blackrack

Yeah snow is only on the poles of kerbin though for now (since it'd look out of place elsewhere).

Blackrack

WOOOOOO YEAH LIGHTNING

Tracker Aerospace

Wow! Thanks Blackrack!

John Alexiou

I'm back!

Noah

No fair I'm at work (not working). SNOW TOO?! Also loving the intent for small updates.

D S

looks incredible!

Matt

Thank you!!! Trying it out now, I'm so freaking excited

Ryan

Thank you!

Blackrack

I quite literally checked here for any updates the exact minute this came out. No notifications. I am god

Tristin Mixon

Nope, this is only visual, it doesn't affect your saves :)

Blackrack

Simply Spectacular!

Leonardo Bonanno

Will I need a new save on my career mode? Lol just started it today

Ryan

About to give this one a run! Really love it, keep it up!

Maarwan

Awesome work! Can't wait to give it a go.

shibusu

Looking forward to giving this a whirl :D

Carnasa

Can’t wait to get my 40 series. Gonna run everything on max with this.

etzabo

Loading up now! Thanks!!

Mr SkW3rL

YESSSSSSSS

The Jass

congrats on the release!

badge

!!!!!!

Anthony L

😍

Jacob Sell