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EB01 Moria Theory - 3 Cost Brook Time! (Updated: May 10th) | Rough

Introduction

Another Moria update!! Hope you are all doing great, CrossAi (@Cross_Aii) here, and today we are going to be looking at an update to Moria! Unfortunately for all the hardcore Moria copers, there won’t be a surplus of Moria content this format. There’s too many decks I am interesting in writing about, but this will be a positive thing for all the non-diehard Moria players! 

My Moria deck is going to be way different than the ones you have seen from the asian meta, and it’s probably also going to be way different than the English player’s Moria. I’ll likely be the only top player that approves of my list, unless there’s top players that decide to take Moria seriously instead of Sakazuki.

A Rant About Building Better Decks

I want to clarify one thing about Moria. The Borsalino Moria list, and all those lists you see other top players performing with are good enough. As in they are good enough to perform well with. If you’re a player like Chirs Sok, and you’re beating everyone, what’s the point in trying to further optimize your list? If he played Yonas or Jackson’s Sakazuki with his Moria list, I’m almost certain he would lose to their Sakazuki decks the vast majority of the time. But he’s not gonna typically play against Sakazuki’s on the level of Yonas or Jackson in tournament, and he’s not losing to the Sakazuki players he does play, so why optimize his list?

The point is, if you are not on the level of someone like Yonas, Jackson, or Chris Sok, it is even more important for you to find the deck list. Funnily enough, I think you are unlikely to find the BEST VERISON of a list from most of the top players. Just think about how unoptimized their decks are, because they are content with their decklists due to always winning with them.

Now of course there will be players that are exceptions to this idea. And there is the chance that while this concept makes sense, it simply isn’t the case. 

But by examining the lists of various top players, I am pretty positive my concept holds true for most players. This concept also applied to me in Red/Green Law era. I was winning so much with Law, that I disregarded the possibility of Nicky Goldman’s Red/Green Law list being better than mine. And I recently determined that his list was better than mine all along. Here’s some texts between me and him

If you are on the level of someone like Yonass, Jackson, Chris Sok, etc, you may not have a fully optimized decklist. Obviously it’s in everyone’s best interest to have a fully optimized deck, but when you’re beating everyone anyways, when is it that your deck is fully optimized versus player-diff? And this raises an important argument:

If you aren’t on the level of someone like Yonas, Jackson, and Chris Sok, it’s not only more important that you try to find a better decklist than them, but it can even give you an advantage over them.

This isn’t to say good players don’t know what they’re talking about. Obviously, I’m writing this article right now, and all the top players have wonderful insight.

But sometimes success is blinding, and the top players don’t actively find crazy cards because they are too busy performing well. So what if we could get an edge over them by experimenting and finding a stronger decklist? 

The Moria decklist I show you is different, but it is a decklist, that I believe I have optimized better than the other Morias. It’s going to look crazy, but please evaluate EVERY THING that I say, test the list for yourself (rather than just asking others), and determine if you prefer this or the normal build.

ALRIGHT ENOUGH YAPPING. Let’s go ahead and get into the new Moria tak!!

Moria’s Position in EB01

These are my current thoughts on the EB01 meta, and as you can see, I still think Moria is at the top of it’s class! Honestly, Moria has the potential to breach S Tier, but the difficulty of BY Luffy is still being evaluated (I have beaten a lot of various Black Luffy players, but can I beat a really good BY Luffy player?).

Moria has gotten significantly strengthened in EB01, the addition of EB01 Brook is a godsend. It has significantly improved the Sakazuki matchup, made double popping against Yamato’s Kid + Rosinante more consistent, and we now have a billion ways to play units on our 6-don turn of going second! 

The addition of Brook also gives us more way to destroy RP Law’s units in the early-game aside from just Absalom, it’s definitely very strong.

For those who haven’t read my previous articles, Moria is basically Aggro Sakazuki. It’s removal isn’t always as good as Sakazuki’s, but it establishes board, while dealing with the opponent’s board, in a way that creates a difference in board similar to Sakazuki. 

Moria is also arguably a bit more consistent than Sakazuki, thanks to its toolbox always being a leader skill away, and Moria being retrievable from Hogback! Moria’s 5-life also makes it more difficult to cheese with leaders like Zoro, Red/Green Law, and Katakuri!

While Sakazuki has the potential to deal with almost any situation, but doesn’t always have the answer. Moria has the potential to deal with MOST situations, while almost ALWAYS having the answer.

Moria also has high-power spikes, such as playing 3 units as once while clearing a big unit, that can also make it more troublesome than Sakazuki at times

Let’s go ahead and look at the EB01 Moria decklist

EB01 Moria Decklist

This is my Moria list for EB01! And there have been some massive changes. No Sabo?! No Kuzan?! 2 Tsuru?! Is 3-Cost Brook really that good? CROSS IS PLAYING BORSALINO?!

Let’s go ahead and talk about some of the key concepts of this decklist:

No Sabo?

Yes I’ve committed a grave sin, I have removed Sabo from the deck. Similar to how I thought people were mindlessly running Borsalino, without ever considering it could be removed, I came to the realization that I was MAYBE doing that with Sabo. 

I actually saw one player in Japan remove Sabo once, and I thought he was smoking something crazy, but I can see the reasoning now.

When is Sabo Good?

So Sabo clearly has a lot of benefits, but are they benefits we need? For one, in mirror matches the best possible play on 5-don is always Eruption/Helmeppo + Absalom/Brook, UNLESS the opponent played their own Borsalino. And if the opponent played their own Borsalino, they are behind, because they didn’t clear our unit from 3-don. I would rather use Perona/Hogback as a punish to Borsalino, than rely on Sabo that’s unsearchable(but Sabo is still technically the best response to a Borsalino)

Against Yellow Yamato & Katakuri, we tend to keep our life high enough to the point, that we don’t need Sabo to seal out games. Against Katakuri, we should be at 4-life for majority of the game. And against Yamato, Hody can rest Sabo in the late-stages anyways, so we mainly want to secure enough counter in hand!

Against BY Luffy, Sabo is simply just the best blocker to see early. But establishing any blocker early is fine, and the main deciding factor is seeing Moria/Issho on curve anyways.

So Sabo is certainly good in a lot of situations, but I chose to increase my deck power, instead of including Sabo. And considering that Sakazuki is the matchup we are most worried about, and Sabo doesn’t do anything in that matchup anyways, I would rather have Sabo.

Borsalino instead of Sabo?

Yes, I chose Borsalino instead of Sabo.

For the above reasons I chose Borsalino! I thought it would make going second that much more broken against any deck, and it is a good enough substitute to Sabo on 5-don when going first! Especially in the mirror match, if I do miss eruption + Absalom on 4-don of going second, I would really like to slam a Borsalino instead.

No Kuzan?

I actually took out Kuzan since the end of pre-EB01. I found that Tashigi hit the same thresholds I wanted to hit with Kuzan, and now we even have Brook! The only time Kuzan actually sticks is against Yellow Katakuri & Yellow Yamato, and Brook can easily be just as annoying for those decks. For example, against 7Mom, Tashigi skill + 8Moria (Lucci + Helmeppo) clears a 7Mom. Or Moria (RebHina + Tsuru/Helmeppo) + Brook skill also kills 7Mom! Kuzan felt unncessary, and the power of Tashigi & 3Brook being 3 Cost felt a lot more powerful, especially when going second.

A Brief Talk about Tashigi & Brook

Brook/Tashigi are revolutionary cards to the Moria deck. On 6-don, you can always produce 2 units, while producing a mini Kuzan, which is absolutely insane. 

But even more importantly, these cards are godly against Sakazuki!

The scariest thing from Sakazuki is 8Moria + Kuzan + Brannew on their 8-Don turn. Even if we have 2 units on our board, THEY WILL STILL MAKE THIS PLAY because of how far it gets them ahead.

The original counter from this would be Kuzan + leader skill on our 7-don turn going first. But the issue with this is that the opponent’s unit from their 6-don turn would stick to their board, and on their 8-Don turn, they won’t play Kuzan, but now they have 1 8-Drop and two 4-drops, and we have the decision between clearing a 8-drop or clearing two 4-drops…

But Tashigi/Brook solves this issue. Tashigi + Absalom, or Perona + Brook on our 7-don turn of going first, allows us to clear the Sakazuki player’s 6-don turn unit! And if they leave Tashigi or Brook alive, they risk getting cooked by IceAge + Lucci + Tsuru/Helmeppo!

Also on our 9-don turn of going first Hina + Perona + Brook, or Hina + Tashigi + Absalom both clear a 8-Cost Moria, while producing 3 units on the board! These 3-costs are too strong man.

1 Issho

Against BY Luffy, not seeing a 8-Drop on curve is death. I personally think 8Moria has is fine on curve (I prefer to gain resources with Rebecca and 8Moria), but Issho is searchable from Brannew. So Issho is included as the “5th” 8-Drop, and the searchable one from Brannew when we desperately need a 8-Drop

Updated EB01 Moria (Update: May 9th, 2024)

| Borsalino felt mid as usual, and Brannew no longer felt necessary |

Prior to EB01, I had tested a Brannewless Moria deck. A Moria deck that removed Brannews, in exchange for more power cards. And I was actually pleasantly surprised. I never had time to call Brannew in black mirrors anyways, because I was too busy using Helmeppo/Tsuru to reduce, Value Moria in this deck isn’t anywhere near as good as Sakazuki’s, and even in non black-mirrors, using Cerberus as a defensive blocker was stronger than Brannew.

But despite these points, if anyone asked me prior to EB01, I would say they should always include 2-4 Brannew. And the reason for this, is that for Hina builds, you always want to see Hina on Turn 3 of going second. 

Brannew adds extreme stability to the going second curve, because instead of mulliganing for Cindry + Hina, we have 2-4 extra cards we can mulligan for, that not only can find Hina, but can also set up our trash.

But Post-EB01, we get access to 3 Cost Brook:

| A rival to Hina |

Brook is essentially also “4 extra copies” of Hina. It can’t clear 5 costs on 6-Don the same way Hina can, but the majority of the time it is a valid substitute. Thanks to this card, I think it’s now possible to exclude Brannew from the deck?

But just because we have more justification to exclude Brannew, does that mean we should?

My current substitute for Brannew is Cerberus:

| The strongest blocker against BY Luffy, Yellow decks in general, and rogue |

Considering BY Luffy is the current worst matchup, I decided to include Cerberus instead of Brannew. It’s a card you definitely have to try against BY Luffy, the longevity it adds it’s insane. We have an infinite blocker with Leader skill, and we can swing 9K+ while establishing the blocker! Which is the type of pressure we need against BY Luffy.

Not only this, but it becomes possible to play cards like Perona/Hogbaxk, while standing up a blocker. So Moria can turn into a mini Issho (Perona discards 1), that sets up a blocker, or we can secure another Big unit to pressure BY Luffy, while setting up a blocker.

If BY Luffy isn’t popular, then this card can retreat to Brannew again. Even though we don’t have many Brannew targets, the same way we would play Cindry, without directly plussing.  just to set up trash. We can treat Brannew the same way. And just the stability in being able to grab a potential Hina/Eruption/Ice Age is enough to justify Brannew again.

So pick between Brannew and Cerberus depending on the meta you expect!

Sabo vs Borsalino?

This is once again a Black/Yellow Luffy diff. I wanted Borsalino as a backup play in the mirror when there’s no eruption + Absalom, but I don’t even think it’s worth still. Not setting up trash on that turn kinda blows, and Sabo is infinitely better against BY Luffy due to being able to draw and set up trash, while being a blocker.

Even if Brannew comes back to the deck, I doubt I will be adding Borsalino again. I’d rather whiff than have Borsalino instead of Sabo.

Maybe I’m just biased, but everyone I try Borsalino, I just end up disappointed.

Basic Moria Advice

Basic EB01 Moria Curve

Going First

1: Cindry

3: Leader skill

5: Leader skill or Borsalino/Rebecca (If against Yellow Katakuri, Yamato, or BY Luffy) or Helmeppo + 3Brook

7: Leader skill + 4-drop from hand, RebHina + Absalom, RebHina + Brook, Perona + RebBrook

9: 

10: World is Your Oyster! (RebHina + Perona + Brook or RebHina + Hina + Absalom becomes possible!!)

Going Second

2: Brannew

4: Eruption + Absalom, Eruption/Ice Age + Brook, 4Borsalino

6: Hina + Absalom or Brook + Perona

8: 8Cost Moria(Typically RebBrook + Helmeppo or Lucci/Absalom + Helmeppo/Tsuru), or Hina + Eruption/Ice Age + Lucci)

10: World is Your Oyster! (RebHina + Perona + Brook or RebHina + Hina + Absalom becomes possible!!)

Matchups

Blue/Black Sakazuki

50/50 Matchup, whoever goes second has a strong advantage.

Attack Selection: Second - Preventing Sakazuki’s god curve of 8Cost Moria + Kuzan + Brannew, and being able to play 2 units on 6-don is strong

Mulligan:

First Attack: Cindry/Absalom

Second Attack: Brannew or Brook + Perona/Cindry or Hina + Absalom/Cindry

General Guidelines

Sample Curves

Going First

1: Cindry

3: Leader skill or Brannew (if cost reduction is missing)

5: Eruption + Absalom on the opponent’s 4 Cost Kuzan (also make sure not to attack with the unit played on 3-don)

7: Brook + Perona/Hina/RebHina (Brook is mandatory on this turn to prevent the opponent from doing ValueMoria! I’d rather do RebBrook and clear nothing than do anything else)

9: 

10: 

Going Second

2: Brannew

4: Cindry + Leader skill

6: Hina + Absalom or Perona + 3Brook

8: 

10: 

Yellow Katakuri

Advantageous for Moria regardless of going first or second

Attack Selection: First Attack (It’s strong to aggro early)

Mulligan:

General Guidelines

Sample Curve

Going First

1: Cindry

3: Leader skill (Play Hogback if trash is big and there’s a 2K, otherwise play Perona)

5: Borsalino or Rebecca or Eruption + Absalom (Collect a 2K with Hogback if all of these are missing)

7: RebHina + Absalom or Perona + RebBrook or Perona + Eruption + Brook or RebHina + Brook (Establishing Brook on this turn makes it easier to deal with 7Mom)

9: 

10: Start aiming for lethal, and clean-up board while doing so if possible. Lethal will normally be after this turn or on this turn.

Going Second

2: Brannew(Priority) or Cindry

4: Borsalino (Priority) or Leader skill

6: Hina + Absalom or Brook + Leader skill (Remember Brook + Perona can’t clear Absalom)

8: 

10:  Start aiming for lethal, and clean-up board while doing so if possible. Lethal may be further away than when going first, but we can survive

Red/Purple Law

Advantageous for Moria.

Attack Selection: First Attack

Mulligan:

General Guidelines

Sample Curve

Going First

1: Cindry

3: Leader skill (Play Hogback if trash is big and there’s a 2K, otherwise play Perona)

5: Eruption + Absalom or Eruption + Lucci or Helmeppo/Ice Age + 3Brook

7: RebHina + Absalom or Perona + RebBrook or Perona + Eruption + Brook or RebHina + Brook (Establishing Brook on this turn makes it easier to deal with 7Mom)

9: 

IceAge + Moria (Lucci + Tsuru/Helmeppo)

Eruption + Moria (Lucci + Helmeppo)

Moria(RebBrook + Helmeppo or Lucci + Tsuru/Helmeppo)

10: Aim for lethal if necessary, or keep removing while pressuring life

Going Second

2: Brannew(Priority) or Cindry

4: Leader skill

6: Hina + Absalom or Brook + Perona

8: 

10:  Aim for lethal if necessary, or keep removing while pressuring life

Black/Yellow Luffy

Disadvantageous.

Attack Selection: Second Attack (Moria on curve is strong)

Mulligan:

General Guidelines

Sample Curve

Going First

1: Cindry

3: Brannew

5: Borsalino/Rebecca or any other 4-drop or swing 10K at Rush Ace

7: Borsalino/Rebecca or any other 4-drop or clear 5Luffy if possible

9: Moria or 8Issho

10: Going to be a very long game but keep chipping away with the 8-drop, ideally drop another 8-drop if possible

Going Second

2: Brannew(Priority) or Cindry

4: Borsalino/Rebecca or any other 4-drop

6: Borsalino/Rebecca + Brannew or clear 5Luffy if possible

8: Moria or Issho

10:  Going to be a very long game but keep chipping away with the 8-drop, ideally drop another 8-drop if possible

Black Moria Mirror Match

Advantageous for the player that goes second.

Attack Selection: Second Attack (Having priority to pop your opponents units first is strong. Being able to establish 2 units first is also strong)

Mulligan:

First Attack: Cindry/Absalom + Eruption (in order to pop a unit on 5-don) or Sabo (Pray they don’t draw eruption + Absalom on their 4-don)

Second Attack: Hina + Cindry/Absalom or Brook + Cindry/Perona

General Guidelines

Sample Curve

Going First

1: Cindry

3: Hogback (Priority if Cindry was played) or Perona

5: Eruption + Absalom (Priority) or Helmeppo + Brook or Sabo 

IMPORTANT: DON’T ATTACK WITH UNIT PLAYED ON THE 3-DON TURN!

7: RebHina + Absalom / RebBrook + Perona (Priority) or RebHina/Brook + Hogback

IMPORTANT: Units can start swinging, since our life should be 2-3 (so we have more resources to defend units, and the opponent will tap out the following turn)

9: 

10:

Going Second

2: Cindry

4: Eruption + Absalom (Priority) or Hogback/Perona

6: Hina + Absalom or Brook + Perona

IMPORTANT: Don’t attack with the unit from the 4-don Turn

8: 

IMPORTANT: Units can start attacking on this turn!

10:

More matchups will be added as meta becomes more defined.

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This is it for the Moria article for now! Hopefully it helped y’all out, and it has added some valuable insight to Moria in EB01. With that being said, I will catch y’all in the next one, peace!!

EB01 Moria Theory - 3 Cost Brook Time!  (Updated: May 10th) | Rough

Comments

What would be a replace for Great Erupción?

Luis Enrique Landaure Vargas

yeah vs Enel feels weirdly annoying with Raigo

Jbone

we need the enel sauce

chris

Is a R/P Law guide comming soon?

Daniel Delgado Rivero


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