TRIGUN Episode 23 & 24 Reaction UNCUT!
Added 2025-04-16 15:16:03 +0000 UTCIn this episode we react to and discuss episodes 23 & 24 of TRIGUN...
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As to the morality of the paradox of tolerance VS intolerance, I think as a society we have to understand that we cannot tolerate intolerance, even if it contradicts itself. As for Vash, I wish he would at least TRY to subdue his enemies, shoot them in the knees, tie them up, and take them to jail or SOMETHING other than just shouting "Stop it!" But yeah, I do like the fact that the show is bringing all these things to a head here.
Ian Alexander
2025-05-01 15:07:41 +0000 UTCShout out to the blurred preview at the start. I never got this far in Trigun and am seeing these later episodes for the first time with you guys. In the past, I remember getting a little spoiled by those so I want you to know I really appreciate the change to blur it so I can experience it along with you guys! Thanks!~
Ian Alexander
2025-05-01 13:47:02 +0000 UTCIt's not that he is trying to be a good person and help people only because he's trying ape Rem as a good person. Vash is good through and through because of Rems teachings and how he came to understand life and humanity through that. There is a significant difference between the two. But conversely, the reason he is going through so much pain and suffering when things don't turn out exactly perfect, and constantly is reckless about these things is because specifically because he sticks to his limited understanding of Rems idealogy wholesale over being more pragmatic in his own way. He is a slave to what he thinks her values are and is constantly looking for affirmation from her image that what he's doing is right in every scenario when he could never know that, and tortures himself when he is at a crossroads and does not know the answer she herself would give. She would never want him to put himself in that position as it allows Knives to more easily take advantage of him, and more importantly, is not living for himself, but only living through his partial understanding of her memory. This is not a condemnation of being a good person or even pacificm or non violence, but essentially Vash needing to make decisions for himself through his own experiences while respecting rems teachings, rather than trying to emulate her exactly and breaking down when there is a situation where he has no idea how she would respond because he is trying ape her 100 percent. Rem says humans are capable of infinite growth and understanding and the ticket to the future is always blank. And so, Vash needs to grow to fit himself and his current circumstances to be a more well rounded person.
MrInuhanyou123 .
2025-04-17 05:20:00 +0000 UTCit's interesting because most people are saying he did this all because of Rem, but I'm not sure if I saw it that way when I was growing up. Like someone said- he's basically a pacifist when it comes to actually killing people. As a result of this, you actually are sort of examining a philosophical belief system throughout the show, or perhaps even a religious ideal. I don't know much about the creator of the manga, but in many respects it mirrors Biblical stories in which the various apostles or saints took similar abuse, though they did it in religious terms. The show breaks this approach to life down into the good and also the ugly. In that way Trigun is a deceptively thought provoking show. It starts funny, gets darker, and then pushes back on the protagonist beliefs so that the viewer can consider the good and the bad of each angle. Maybe the only other movie or tv show that has actually done this to me that I can think of off the top of my head is the Dark Knight. In the Dark Knight, you have many different views of the world: Batman's beliefs, the Joker's beliefs (or lack thereof), Harvey Dent's beliefs, etc- they all clash or agree at different times and make the movie what it is. I recall after having watched this show for a period of perhaps a couple weeks or more I really thought about this belief system that Vash had and whether that was the "right" way to be- I think it even surprised my father when I posed the pacifist worldview to him. Even as a devout Catholic I'm not sure if he had actually considered such an absolute "no killing" approach to the world, even though it's right in the Ten Commandments. So it's a very interesting show. And when Vash pulls the trigger, while a person could say "finally!," to a person like Vash it is the ultimate defeat. The sound echoing through the canyon may as well be from the shot going through his own soul. It's a very powerful moment because he's done something both necessary and utterly defying of everything he has said and believed up to that point. From his standpoint he didn't just lose, he lost in the absolute worst way, but to the viewer it is a righteous action. I think it's one of the greatest moments in any anime I've ever seen actually (and maybe in many tv shows). I find myself watching it from time to time on YouTube, or atleast I have over the years. The music is also some of my favorite music from the show (and I learned it on the guitar). But many don't agree that Trigun is one of the better animes at all, so I'm probably niche in that view. In fact I think many people do not know Trigun at all- I only know it because it played alongside Cowboy Bebop on Adult Swim- and those are probably 2 of my favorite anime (if not my favorites) ever to this day.
Jacob Reichenauer
2025-04-17 03:20:39 +0000 UTCI'm so glad you're watching this series. These episodes are brutal and beautiful. Wolfwood's story comes full circle in 'Paradise.' His backstory starts with killing his caretaker, and one of the last things he does is spares his mentor's life, thanks in part to Vash's influence. I feel bad for Vash. He holds so strongly to his ideals and how Millie described it was perfect. It's just who he is, he can't help it. He feels so deeply for others, which is the polar opposite of Knives' perception of others. He bears so much to try and save others. The closer he gets to Knives, the more death and suffering he encounters, along with an inevitable internal battle between his nonviolent ideals and his destined responsibility to deal with his brother. I'm so looking forward to your reaction to the finale!
dbkutcher
2025-04-17 00:23:22 +0000 UTC
